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Permission to win: Ukraine needs more from Biden than weapons to defeat Russia, according to experts

Permission to win: Ukraine needs more from Biden than weapons to defeat Russia, according to experts

Permission to win: Ukraine needs more from Biden than weapons to defeat Russia, according to experts - WEIS

(UKRAINE) -- Soon after President Joe Biden announced a new $225 million package of desperately-needed weapons and ammunition for Ukraine during an in-person meeting with President Volodymyr Zelenskyy in Paris Friday, he told Biden that to thwart the Russian invasion, Ukraine must be allowed to use the weapons to strike at its source: Inside Russia

the president alluded to some of this in his speech. 350,000 casualties, million young people living the country because they don't to be there anymore. -- leaving. russia has suffered a lot at the hands of ukraine and because they've invested so much of their energy into this war and not just united states but 50 some odd nations can take some credit for that because we helped arm and train and help resource ukrainian soldiers fighting so bravely. >> martha: are you telling me the president believes russia is on its heels? they just opened 3 new fences in the northeastern you can purchase a present believe russia is going to collapse on its own accord? >> i wouldn't go that far right now. but i do think it's important to remember they haven't made much progress for all the effort about what they were doing or trying to do they basically stalled out. once they hit the first line of ukrainian defenses that was kind

t-shirts and there french kids. you don't see that at home. you see more american flags lying on french horns in normandy than you do main street usa and the patriotism and the gratitude is something you will never forget. >> martha: i couldn't agree more. you feel it so intensely here and i think i want to actually show you a piece from the wall street journal. d-day and modern memory and get on summons. so to the united states. lu -- will we make the same mistake again. there's a reason that thanks so. the west has spent the last 3 decades disarming. europe especially has been living on the comfort of it's welfare states as their military is eroded. russia's invasion of ukraine has awakened some on the continent

to that effect. there we'll be people who look at the ukraine decisions and say that language is positive. it sounds reassuring to them and to europe but that the advances in military weaponry have been too slow and this latest session to fire within russia around our cave is too limited into combining. what do you say to that? >> i would remind people that we have evolved as the war has evolved. the needs of ukrainians on the battlefield have changed and they are still changing. we are china stay at pace with that and that's where we are in constant conversations with them. i also want to remind people that everything ukraine is getting is in concert with them and meeting their needs, and they're asks. again we are trying to stay at pace of that. but i think it's also s. thing i will say, take a look at what russia has suffered.

like going forward probably so but that's the guidance they've been given. ethic it's important as well to remember and russia president vladimir putin talked about this yesterday in a press conference we're dealing with a nuclear armed power. a thing we can all agree especially paper -- people who love ukraine and want to see it succeed and really become potentially world war iii to become the u.s. versus rossa which -- russia it could be a disaster for people all across europe. >> martha: we are sitting here at the normandy american cemetery which makes everyone think of world war 2. when we sent ships and then ammunition we didn't put any constraints on them and we didn't say you could use the bullets in this place but not that place or use the ships this way but not that we. we said when -- knew what it takes to win with our help. 's and the threat enough from russia and a larger sense to

make winning the bull? >> there are parallels certainly to what's going on in the continent of europe now to what happened in the 1940s and world war ii. they're not exactly the same situation. this is russia invaded peaceful nation next-door and a completely unprovoked -- and we have been aiding ukraine in terms of beating back that aggression and defending their sovereign territory and territorial integrity and we will keep doing that. >> martha: must take it a bit further because, you know, hitler invaded doshi claimed a german-speaking area that he wanted to be part of germany. russia president vladimir putin when this event. these are essentially russia. chamberlain in the munich agreement i believe him and that's all he wants i think after all that he will sit back. why shouldn't we learn from history about what russia president vladimir putin's designs are to go further if he

kharkiv. the russians were pushing and in trying to establish a buffer zone on the ukrainian side of the border so that they could hit kharkiv because they want to get kharkiv. that's what the need is right now. as i said in my first answer to you we will keep in touch with ukrainians nearly every day. if we have to make adjustments that we will make adjustments. >> martha: wall street journal wrote a piece about this saying this is a message to russia president vladimir putin to -- a little bit and will leave you alone. it off the border area you back up a little bit we will not allow ukraine to use attack guns that go deeper into your territory. dew you agree with that? >> i don't at all. >> martha: will you let them use attack guns right now? >> ray numbers no change in our policy about attack guns a long-range strike nestle 300 club motors or so for use inside russia and again i want to remind the guidance we've given ukrainian is to after things that are a imminent threat just over that border. again we have to talk to them about what it looks for -- looks

of it. now they are reassessing we think about what they might do next. they can still be within range of kharkiv i don't want to diminish that. but they have largely stalled out. mr russia president vladimir putin has achieved none of these strategic objectives. >> martha: we know ukraine is suffering in a number of places along the border right now. when ukraine president volodymyr zelenskyy meets with president biden tomorrow i believe they will talk and he says thanks for letting me go deeper into russian territory around kharkiv but i also need to do it however lc needs to. how do you say no to what he is asking for in those places and why would you if he is committed as he just said to peace which means 0 occupation from russia inside of ukraine? >> we haven't had those conversations with ukraine we will sea how coast more. the president is looking forward to another chat with ukraine president volodymyr zelenskyy. the immediate need right now was