and those two and the due process for the former president. let s see what a jury determines because it s very hard to weaponize a jury. so, sure, play offense on the facts of this case, but i don t think you get on the republican playing field. democrats know the most like scenario today as we sit here today, nicolle, joe biden will be running against a convicted trump in federal court. that is likely he secures the nomination some time in february or march and faces the court later in the summer. stick with the facts and for joe biden no comment. listen, i have a i am torn on this question. i think vacuums are dangerous in the hands of this current post-fact republican party, rev. you cannot create a vacuum in any moment. i don t think we evelen live in a country where a tragedy is
seen as what it is anymore. the disinformation, the reliance on propaganda, we peeked at what was on the news and what was being created on the right sort of from last thursday through this thursday while trump was and even trump couldn t deny it. he was in his car being arraigned on his way to appear in court, but the projection and fabrication on the right is so next level that even putting the facts out there isn t necessarily about getting on offense anymore if you re a democrat. it s still inherently politically defensive because the right has moved they re not defending a conservative viewpoint. bill barr is the closest thing to a truth teller on the right when it comes to criminal exposure on the documents case, and his technical legal term for trump is that he s toast. i mean where do you come down on maybe not what the president does but what democrats do in this moment? i think that you pose a question right. you have to separate from what
you know, all those places, it s not just the question of what trump did with it, the division is whether or not other people, possible intelligence services, the russian, the thicheese possibly are targeting not only mar-a-lago but bedminster and trump tower and all these places. so even if trump didn t want to do anything with those documents showing them to people, and we know from the indictment it appears he did at least in the case of the iran document, that there is a risk simply by taking those outside of controlled space. so that didn t stop obviously when he left the presidency because he kept all those documents. i think there s a very reasonable question about whether or not even today the government has back all the classified information trump took with him. and so if i m in the intelligence community, not only have i been busy doing a risk assessment of all the documents being recovered to figure out what needs to be mitigated, i ve got this deep, uneasy feeling in
then the e. jean carroll civil defamation suit and one having to do with get rich schemes with trump and his kids. then he ll face stormy daniels and the hush money case, and all that is without widely expected additional charges having to do with his role in planning the insurrection on january 6th. joining our conversation former republican congressman david jolly is here, plus the rev al sharpen host of politics nation. our friend basil snipe is here. david jolly, it s almost seizure to explain this way, right, than if they said, all right, now that he s been criminally charged, you know, we say tomato, you say tomato, it makes perfect sense the rnc s position is you will standby him even as slash if the ship goes down. yeah, nicolle, a humiliating moment for the republican national committee kind of
order perspective the rule of law is excruciatingly so. we know it s not quick enough to make the victims of january 6th feel like anything is being done at a pace commensurate with what they saw that day, and the politics are right there in front of democrats and frankly any republicans running against trump. chris christie seems to recognize a moment, this is lights out moment to communicate to the entire nation forget about the 25% that are trump dead enders. we spend way too much they re in everyone s head. forget about them. but the other 75% of americans should be made to understand why trump is fundamentally unfit to serve other than his own office and own boxes and should have anything other than sports memorabilia inside of them ever again. that s absolutely right. and rick was on the show a couple days ago and i think there was a riff of what he said