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>> it was -- [overlapping dialogue] >> i understand that, sir. but these are experienced members of the bench, too. these -- that was not a new magistrate. >> royce lambert didnt sign off on the affidavit. he never would have signed off on it, even in the middle of the night. that was signed off by a magistrate, an apointed official, not confirmed by the senate. >> one who is actually respected here. >> he may have been respected before this. but if you read that affidavit, there is no way that ...

>> i know that. >> it was submitted to the magistrate judge. >> a magistrate and a federal court judge, i understand that, sir. but these are experienced members of the bench. that wasnt a new magistrate or a new federal judge. >> royce lambert didnt sign up on the affidavit. he would never have signed off on it, even in the middle of the night. signed off by a magistrate judge, who is an on pointed oap official. >> and one respected here. >> he may have been respected before this, but if you re...

>> a lot of people who used to work in government. go back and forth between the government and private contractors. what happened after september 11th, a huge explosion in intelligence gathering. the creation of the department of homeland security and the director of national intelligence. consolidated a lot of different intelligence operations and tried to break down the wall between intelligence and law enforcement so problematic in not connecting the dots for 9/11. but in the process, thousa...

Work in government. go back and forth between the government and private contractors. what happened after september 11th, a huge explosion in intelligence gathering. the creation of the department of homeland security and the director of national intelligence. consolidated a lot of different intelligence operations and tried to break down the wall between intelligence and law enforcement so problematic in not connecting the dots for 9/11. but in the process, thousands, hundred dollars -- hundred...

Cannot -- the problem is it is the right thing to do and it is how we connect the dots and just because its the right thing to do doesnt mean it will be done right and what people cant see is this. what they cant see is its conflation with the irs, horrible, horrible. >> bus abuse of private liberti and privacy. so you cant take these things in a vacuum. in this obama care and all of the rest are not just scandals and the intrusiveness and the overreach of the government, people, of course, the ...

Cannot -- the problem is it is the right thing to do and it is how we connect the dots and just because its the right thing to do doesnt mean it will be done right and what people cant see is this. what they cant see is its conflation with the irs, horrible, horrible. >> bus abuse of private liberti and privacy. so you cant take these things in a vacuum. in this obama care and all of the rest are not just scandals and the intrusiveness and the overreach of the government, people, of course, the ...

Cannot -- the problem is it is the right thing to do and it is how we connect the dots and just because its the right thing to do doesnt mean it will be done right and what people cant see is this. what they cant see is its conflation with the irs, horrible, horrible. >> bus abuse of private liberti and privacy. so you cant take these things in a vacuum. in this obama care and all of the rest are not just scandals and the intrusiveness and the overreach of the government, people, of course, the ...

Ask the kinds of questions we want to ask. >> thats a good point. i saw an interview today a james clapper speaking out saying the same thing. can we assume, and maybe its too early, that the information has harmed intelligence ir rev kaably in the country? >> my understanding is the claim really is theyre worried that people who would like to do us harm now have insight into however to work around our intelligence gathering. so lets say some al qaeda operative now knows not to use the internet ...

It doesnt bother me one bit for the national security administration to have my phone number because what theyre trying to do is find out what terrorist groups we know about and individuals and who the hell theyre calling. >> democratic congressman elijah cummings, however, told "politico," "the president said i must return to my authentic self, and i think the president needs to go back and read his own speeches." so what does it mean that some of the strongest criticism of the president is com...

Senator, what do you say to people who fear their privacy is being violated with this intelligence gathering? >> well, i think its important, first, to understand exactly what the program is, and when i was reading those first stories that came out, the impression was created that the government was listening in on phone conversations. we now have established thats not the case. what they have are when calls were made, who they were made to. michael, this is a classic argument thats been going o...