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That barack obama versus todays barack obama. >> i didnt believe that barack obama when he said it then, and i obviously dont believe it now. >> why not? why didnt you believe it then? >> because it was quite obvious he wanted to do things that would never get passed congress. from day two when he started signing executive orders, closing gitmo, eliminating the cia interrogation program that it was obvious he was going to do this. and he has proceeded along that road. if you take a look -- there...

"company man." and this is just fascinating. john, first off, why do you feel you had to come out and tell the true story as you saw it from your years at the agency? >> well, i mean, over 30 years at c.i.a. as a lawyer. i had 25 years in when 9-11 happened. soon after i became the chief legal after and soon after that after the controversy over the enhanced interrogation program became topic, i became not only a public figure, but notorious public figure. the other thing i wanted to write this ...

2003, 2004, when the wind shifted and the interrogation program began. for the first time in my career, i became involuntarily not only a public figure but a controversial and divisive figure. and so that was disconcerting to say the least. >> its a fascinating book. "company man" 30 years of controversy and crisis in the cia. appreciate you joining me. thank you very much. >> thank you. coming up miracle on the hudson happened five years ago next week and turned my next guest into a real amer...

And there were times of many crises, challenges, screw ups, triumphs occasionally. so i mean, it was never a dull moment. >> when i watched "zero dark thirty" which i saw again the other day, you see that scene of water boarding. you dont believe it is torture. most people watching it would say it obviously is. why do you think theres no line crossed there? >> well, first i should make clear, the water boarding that was done in the course of the cia interrogation program, by no means are docile,...

This analogy with "the god father" too far. but in some respects, my role over three decades was to be the conciliary so to speak for the cia organization. and there were times of mini crises, challenges, screw ups, triumphs occasionally. so i mean, it was never a dull moment. >> when i watched "zero dark thirty" which i saw again the other day, you see that scene of water boarding. you dont believe it is torture. most people watching it would say it obviously is. why do you think theres no line...

You dont believe it is torture. most people watching it would say it obviously is. why do you think theres no line crossed there? >> well, first i should make clear, the water boarding that was done in the course of the cia interrogation program, by no means are docile, was not exactly the way it was depicted in that film. i dont mean to downplay the aggressiveness of it. mr. morgan, im a lawyer. im a lawyer for the cia. and torture is a u.s. statute, is defined in u.s. statute. if i thought or ...

Is what bob gates characterization is of what he saw and heard, i believe bob gates. >> when you finished your book what would you say were the best and the worst moments of your 30-year tenure at the cia? >> well, my best moment i suppose was the decision to end at the cia. i arrived in the mid 70s fired a shot in the dark not knowing what i was getting into. obviously i stayed there 34 years, really half my life. so it was the best professional decision i ever made. now the worst thing that ha...

>> well, my best moment i suppose was the decision to end at the cia. i arrived in the mid 70s fired a shot in the dark not knowing what i was getting into. obviously i stayed there 34 years, really half my life. so it was the best professional decision i ever made. now the worst thing that happened to me in the cia, i guess it would have to be all the controversy and crisis that occurred in the mid -- beginning 2003, 2004, when the wind shifted and the interrogation program began. for the first...

Try him in federal court in new york. your thoughts? >> well, its another indication that we really aught to have an interrogation program. the man is under indictment, at some pint he aught to be tried, but before hes tried we need to find out what he knows. and the administration has scrapped the interrogation program, as a result of which, although he may be interrogated, i dont know what the program is, and i dont know how long it is before we get him over here. >> we just heard there was an...

Try him in federal court in new york. your thoughts? >> well, its another indication that we really aught to have an interrogation program. the man is under indictment, at some pint he aught to be tried, but before hes tried we need to find out what he knows. and the administration has scrapped the interrogation program, as a result of which, although he may be interrogated, i dont know what the program is, and i dont know how long it is before we get him over here. >> we just heard there was an...