appropriate to increase the debt limit is if there is a tangible, written, irreversible set of structure reforms in the spending in the united states government. if we don t achieve those goals, then i don t see any gain in increasing the debt limit. we do not achieve those goals. if we do not get those changes he says that he wants on spending, then what s that last key part again? i don t see any gain in increasing the debt limit. i don t see any gain in raising the debt limit. why do it? i mean do, it if you can use it to get some other changes in government you might want, but otherwise, you don t see any gain in increasing the debt limit. i don t see any reason to do it. why raise the debt ceiling? i don t see any reason to do it. so says the governor of virginia. try to get something in exchange. but if you can t in this fight, in what s going on in washington right now, i think