isn t over. i don t think that s quite if you listen to the full remarks that president biden said, he said of course it s still around, we still have these things happening, but the pandemic itself is over. that s true in the same way that it s true we still have influenza around, but that doesn t mean you still have pandemic response to it. he is having pandemic-type response, justifying actions on the basis of a pandemic that a he himself says is over. howard: i ll come back to that but,s leslie, biden knew the pandemic is over would be the headline in this midterm campaign season and that the media would run with it. [laughter] absolutely. you mean, that old man with dementia s smarter than we think, howie? if sorry. look, you have to ask whose definition of pandemic, okay? so when we look to merriam-webster for the definition, what s the
here to this country. that s something still not clear and something we have to figure out not only from the department of homeland security. another couple of questions. is leslie still with us there? so let me ask you, you ve been covering washington for a long time and just listening to what ryan was saying. customarily when there s an executive order and it will involve a number of agencies, this is homeland security, state department, department of justice, usually, are there a set of instructions or a fanning out of instructions on how this will be executed before an executive order would actually be honored? almost sounds like people haven t sorted out, but the executive order and then instructions come to follow. h how is it usually done? more preparation time especially when it goes to the treatment of green card holders. i just got and i m sure our ryan did and might have been there.
look like trayvon. and eric holder, his justice department got involved in this case through their own community relations service. what do you what does that say about the administration? should they have been involved? they should not. the outrage and injustice here is that they are prosecuting this man for allegedly second degree murder when no one has produced in weeks any evidence that he acted out of rage, anger, hatred, viciousness of any kind. the fact that someone yelled help me, help me, help me, help me, five times on the ground. he feared something, maybe great bodily harm. i cannot believe he will be convicted of second degree murder. this case should not have been brought if it was brought, they should come in with negligent homicide. s leslie. i ado agree with pat on