party s going. republicans voted against the constitutional amendment on abortion. i think there are a lot of republicans out there, i m guessing at least 30%, who are not comfortable with where this party is and want something better. look where cpac is. they ve got these nativists, steve bannon, orban, and mike lindell. what is he there for? bannon had just been convicted for defying a congressional subpoena. they should change their name from cpac to ill pack. this is sick what they re doing. you always have these over the years where the polls are always win and they were going to win primaries but that s where cpac is these days. joe, you want to respond? jim, i love and respect my fo former colleague. no, this is where the republican party is. look who s winning republican primaries. election deniers left and right.
the party doesn t seem to be doing that at this point. as we were hearing from michael warren a few moments ago, this is a trump cpac as if you know, we were looking at the year 2020 or 2019, as if january 6th and the insurrection hadn t really happened. doesn t this speak in part to kind of the victim complex at the heart of the trump movement? no question about that. trump is the ultimate victim if you just ask him, but i think we should try to separate what goes on at cpac, which has frankly become a freak show over the years. it s really not representative of the country and not of the republican party, even today. i think many republicans and many americans do see that donald trump is a diminishing, yet still a dangerous figure. look what just happened in the kansas referendum vote on tuesday. cl clearly a lot of republicans are uncomfortable with where the
2020 election was stolen. it really is a common theme here at this cpac. sort of trumpified cpac. you mentioned the jail cell featuring someone who was arrested for their involvement in the riot at the capitol doing that performance art there. you covered enough of these. there s always a dash of spectacle. we ll be seeing probably more of that tonight from donald trump in just a couple of hours. jim? apparently, marjorie taylor greene paid a visit to that jail cell. quite something. michael warren, thank you very much. let s discuss this with a pair of former republican congressmen. podcast host, joe walsh is with me, and charlie dent is with us as well. joe, i have to take you back to that bizarre piece of video from a few moments ago. some kind of symbolic january 6th rider in a jail cell doing