way. and cities are some cities are in the exactly the same position. i agree with you. you re saying that there s still time for him to fix his problems? yeah. wait a minute. time for him is he s got to get it done by august because he s run for president. what can he do by august? first of all, nobody does that. okay? nobody fixes new jersey by august. case closed. that doesn t you know, and now becomes the issue. look, this is a governor who when he had been in office for two years in 2012 with all of these problems began considering runs for president. people in new jersey were saying, my god, you ran on this reform agenda reform in new jersey and he s really digging in. and already in two years you re thinking of running for president. so there s a different dynamic in new jersey than there is in this discussion. i like it. nobody fixes new jersey by august. that s the line.
question. now let s come to the question. reverend al sharpton thank you very much. we re going to be watching the events from selma all weekend long. thank you. republicans should send somebody down there. i can t believe this is even an issue. i can t believe not one is going. send a representative. it s a lost opportunity. there are i read and i think it was in the times today. a lot of rank in file republicans are saying pry vautly what i just said on the air. telling their leadership get down there. send a representative down there. yeah. bad week for them. still ahead. democratic congressman jim clyburn will join us. plus, what party insiders are saying in iowa and new hampshire about the hillary e-mail controversy.
system as so the issue is the 2009 guidelines, right? that s the biggest thing in front of us right now. two of the biggest things in front of us. first of all, the president s direct i on this. president obama said you know campaigned, most open administration and meaning this kind of thing. all the sunshine laws and regulations would be observed. then there is a 2009 regulation regulation that goes into effect when hillary clinton becomes secretary of state which says, this is the words, much trickery for hillary. the e-mail must be preserved in the appropriate agency record keeping system. that clearly did not happen. we know that didn t happen. the appropriate record keeping system did not even get these e-mails until a couple months ago. tell me lawrence why does this matter even democrats? why am i seeing tweets from
hillary clinton as secretive and paranoia and paranoid and it just more catnip for conservatives who can issue subpoenas related to it. we remember how question got to impeachment started with white it is water and a special counsel who went from one kind of investigation to another kind of investigation. benghazi opened a door. all of these things you say catnip. this isn t a conservative issue. this isn t a republican issue. i m not saying it s only that. i m saying it is the case that there are conservative republicans who are now issuing subpoenas on the basis of this controversy. this is not a republican or a conservative issue. as i said earlier, you said there are democrats concerned about this legitimate issues of transparency and all those things. but they re all true. politically speaking this thing build on itself. let s go around the table. steve rattner. a democrats are concerned.
suggest criminal liability here to you? all i ve seen so far other than that 1950 law is regulations. when john mccain is out there saying, you know, she committed a crime, that to me is a wild overstatement. i don t think that part of the law has criminal penalties attached to it. affirmative responsibility for agency heads to insure that the information of the agency is properly managed and nobody i keep imagineing at a confirmation hearing what s your plan to make sure the agency s records are well managed because the state department has had issues around this sort of thing before. the issue never, well, i m going to hire someone to set up a server i m going to manage personally. john, is it a question to you also that nobody noticed this? there s two parts to this. there s the state department and then there s the white house. and the president who you know chose her for secretary of state. did they not notice that she was using her own erg-mail?