and on and on. for me, where do i want to hang my hat? who do i want to which horse do i want to saddle up? i ll take the young guns, the rand paul. i want to hear rand paul and ted cruz over there. isn t what eric saying kind of dangerous? he s saying i d rather be with the principal people. you didn t say you want to win, you just want to be with the right people. we re not winning with the republicans. would you rather have 30 u.s. senators that are republicans, or claim to be in the republican party in the united states senate or 45? and if the answer is 30 and you have president obama in office for the last two years look what he did with obama care. he could do with a veto proof majority in the senate which i don t think is going to happen. i think the republicans have enough tea party whatever republicans of all stripes have enough common ground that they re going to want to win in 2014. if i could just make a couple of historical points. this policy difference
that was a profound thought right there. okay, bob, do you have anything to say? well, five minutes of six minutes into the segment, let me just say this briefly if i could. yeah, please. i have sugd that this thing needs to be held off. but once again we edited here a couple things where obama said they said it wasn t going to work. he was talking about the substance of the bill. he wasn t talking about the glitches. but what doesn t work, it just doesn t work. the fact is that people who need this stuff need to be assured they can go there, and whether you like obama care or not, at least after all get yourself insured. eric? yes. that s the next shoe to drop. once you get through the glitches and the website starts working and people start realizing 20 and 30-year-olds that number one, it s going to, a, cost them more to have health insurance, and then, b, if they take the bronze plan they could have six or seven or $8,000 in deductibles they re going to sa
a big divide about foreign policy involvement. there are more people isolationists in certain parts of republican party and others who are not. this goes back to taft and roosevelt beginning of the century. then you had goldwater and rockefeller. you had i mean, ronald reagan, versus ford. and you know this split has been around the republican party for a long time. and the democrats are not immune. when george mcgovern lost so badly in 72 the centrists took the party back from big parties have big differences you sound like you re agreeing with eric. i m saying there are policy differences you ve got to want to win. the but does the win matter more than the principle is what you re saying? yes, the win matters. dana asked me a question would you rather have 45 or 30? i think i d rather have 30 now because i think i ll have 45 or 5. it won t matter the country will be so in the toilet it won t matter. the only way to elicit real change is taking the heat first. f
in the end or is it going to make the party stronger by encouraging more dialogue and new leaders emerging. eric that s a very pessimistic view. and i agree with her 100%. for the record i d like the record to show that mr. gutfeld is one who said squishy republicans first. he was quoting someone. you re in the i was quoting laud mouth talk show hosts. all right, thank you. i m guilty of that. i see the conservative room and the rand pauls, the marco rubios as the future of the party, not the john mccains, the lindsey graham s to a certain extent mitch mcconnell, peter king. those guys for me are the past. those are the ones who are, they pretend to be in to smaller government, and the rule of law, and i just think there s a rift and i m not sure that it s always the far right taking the shot at dissenters. sometimes it s the other way around. king calling ted cruz and rand paul wacko birds and it goes on
changes like that. yeah. and i would not for a minute take that to the bank. eric, do you think she deserves to be fired? yeah. here s why. let them see where i stand. you re president of exxon, you re in charge of refining. okay. bob s in charge of exploration. i m in charge of transportation. greg s in charge of r&d. if all my pipelines leak at once, they re not going to fire you, the shareholders aren t going to say, dana, you blew it. they re going to say dana what are you going to do about it? you re going to say, i m firing the pipe line guy. all his pipelines leaked. kathleen sebelius is the pipeline guy for obama care. she signed the document and said i m hiring all those web designers in canada, wherever they were. i spent $600 million even though i was only given 80 mt or 90 million to get it done. she overpaid. fire her. that has a thread that s lose. kimberly, do you think it s reasonable for the american people to expect someone to be