than say no. they have to get the government open. rise above it both sides have. to say give the white house some political off ramp and the democrats will need the same. they should be proposing tripling national security, upping port of entry security, new technologies, drones. brian: i have news for you it s all in the proposal. and i also say barriers work in certain places. absolutely. it doesn t work everywhere. that s clear. talk about anything else is ridiculous. we have 600 miles of fence we you wanted to improve it and make it better and now all of a sudden it s immoral to have it and we have had it since 1992. a couple of points there point number one is this, is that the number one reason why we have illegal immigration in this country has nothing to do with our southern border and everything to do with people entering points of entry and visa overstays. maybe if the white house addressed overstays and modernized immigration system that could be off ramp for democrats. a
wrong border. there are people who have been involved with border security who say a wall would help some, including mark morgan, the border patrol chief under president obama. he said in some places a barrier would be helpful. listen. the president is talking to the leadership of cbp and the border patrol and the rank and file. they are the experts saying the wall works. it doesn t work everywhere. it s not the end all to be all but it works. would it work in some places? of course. if you look at maybe some of the areas away from texas, texas we have in west texas we have large cliffs, rivers. you have natural boundaries. so that s one type of defense we have. in other places, other parts of the country, there is nothing that divides mexico and the u.s. we ve already got miles of fencing and president bush said give us 700 miles.