0ur position is as long as the protocol, the technology for doing this kind of charging is the same, you can have a certain industry and a certain market behind, and there might be use cases. we also see tests, streets in germany, for example, for charging heavy trucks. we see, you know, pantograph systems for buses in certain areas. they are all based on the ccs technology. well, on that point, andre kaufung, general manager of charin, and the big boss of innos, great to have you with us. thanks for your time. thank you, aaron. gm, general motors. it s announced it s returning to europe with an all electric range. but the carmaker, it struggled in europe in the past, failing to make a profit in almost 20 years. so will its bold move into an all ev range mark the change? well, i ve been speaking to its european president. jaclyn mcquaid, a real pleasure having you on the show. let me start with this, because it s probably fair to say that general motors has struggled to find its niche