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>> miles, as we contemplate that, clearly other planes were taking off from that airport. it wasn't a ground stop. other planes thought it was safe enough to be flying. i want to go back to david molko. i think we've re-established our link to surabaya, indonesia. there's so much he-said, she-said going on between the airline and those claiming the pilots didn't physically go to an office and pick up a physical report before they got on the physical plane and took off. how are they actually categorizing this? >> reporter: pardon me for a second while i brush my forehead, it's a little buggy out here. this is the actual weather report from the weather office there. this is the information pilots would have had access to on the morning of december 28th. of course, as miles was mentioning and you were talking about, they did not pick up a

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