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Transcripts for MSNBC The January 6th Hearings The House Investigates 20240604 04:37:00

hutchinson, you also spoke to mr. cipollone on the morning of the six, as you were about to go to the rally on the ellipse. and mr. cipollone said something to you like, make sure the movement to the capitol does not happen. is that correct? that s correct. i saw mr. cipollone right before i walked out onto my desk that morning. and mr. cipollone said something to the effect of, please make sure we don t go up to the capital, cassidy, keep in touch with me. we re going to get charges for every crime imaginable, if we make that movement happen. and do you remember which crimes mr. cipollone was concerned with? in the days leading up to the six, we had conversations about potentially, obstructing justice, or defrauding the electoral count. the white house counsel said, we d be charged with, quote, every crime imaginable. if the white house staff in any way facilitated trump himself going to congress, going up to the capitol building to try to

Transcripts for MSNBC The January 6th Hearings The House Investigates 20240604 04:00:00

every click you take, every move you make, every step you take, i ll be watching you. the internet doesn t have to be duckduckgo is a free all in one privacy app with a built in search engine, web browser, one click data clearing and more stop companies like google from watching you, by downloading the app today. a surprise hearing from the duckduckgo: privacy, simplified. january 6th committee. one extraordinary witness tells the story from inside the white house. he got off from his phone, and said something to the effect of, there s a lot going on, things might get really, really bad on january six. the top aide to the white house chief of staff, on the violence they knew was coming, and did nothing to stop. i have heard the president say something to the effect of,

Transcripts for MSNBC The January 6th Hearings The House Investigates 20240604 04:32:00

i mean, you. meeting with mr. meadows on january 2nd, 2021? i do. he met with mr. meadows in the evening of january 2nd, 2021. and we understand that you walked mr. giuliani out of the white house that night? and he talked to you about january 6th, what do you remember him saying? i said when we were walking to his vehicle that evening, he looked to me and said something to the effect of, cassidy, are you excited for

Transcripts for MSNBC The January 6th Hearings The House Investigates 20240604 05:06:00

he thinks that mike deserves it. he doesn t think that they re doing anything wrong. but in this instance, again, is pat cipollone, jumps white house counsel, with testimony like this, you can understand why the evidence, list cheney in particular, have been pushing so hard for cipollone him self to testify, which of course he has not yet done. but this is, joy, this is something that liz cheney said at hearing one, that we will hear testimony that trump thought that pence deserved it, when they were saying that you ought to be high. and that the people who are calling for that had the right idea. now, we get the origin of that. you know, it s interesting watching this today, it really occurred to me, probably more than any other hearing, that we ve gone from this hearings that are about this kooky legal theory that john eastman comes

Transcripts for MSNBC The January 6th Hearings The House Investigates 20240604 04:22:00

this day? but to have it delivered in under oath testimony by an ear witness, an eyewitness, of exactly what was going on. it brings all of this to a new level. it changes the history of the presidency permanently now. forever, we have an understanding that is beyond disputed of what this was. the idea that donald trump on january 6th was the most confident president since abraham lincoln in the presence of weapons. confident that those weapons were not for him. yes. yes. the question becomes, legally, was that a guess? or, the talk about proud boys that we heard from cassidy hutchinson, was something communicated to donald trump through rudy giuliani? through roger stone? from the proud boys? from the gangsters who were

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