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Transcripts for BBCNEWS The Media Show 20240604 01:34:00

take the counterfactual. - let s imagine that people had published reams and reams l of paper saying how dangerous the qatar world cup would be for workers, i how impractical it d be. let s imagine that there - was just hours of of air time and millions of column inches devoted to it. . it wouldn t have madel a blind bit of difference because the 22 men | and they were all men who voted for this they - didn t even read the bid book, really. we spoke, we interviewed with a gentleman. - we interviewed a gentleman called harry nicholls, - who wrote that bid book for fifa. - he said nobody picked up the phone to him - and asked him . a single question. his conclusion was that these guys didn t even read it. - so what s the counterfactual? ifjournalists had written - everything possible criticising qatar s bid, these guys were not interested in evaluatingl the bids on that - basis, on its merits. they were interested - in what was in it for them. and joey, on the wider point that beth

Transcripts for BBCNEWS The Media Show 20240604 05:35:00

so, to some extent, not a ton was being written about them j because everyone looked at that bid and went, well, surely they re not - going to go for that. when they did, there - was obviously kind of a big shockwave and people, you know, went and . reported on it more. that s naturally how. things go in reporting. but i think the important thing to to focus on with| the klopp comments is let s take the counterfactual. - let s imagine that people had published reams and reams l of paper saying how dangerous the qatar world cup would be for workers, i how impractical it d be. let s imagine that there - was just hours of of air time and millions of column inches devoted to it. it wouldn t have madel a blind bit of difference because the 22 men | and they were all men who voted for this i they didn t even read the bid book, really. we spoke we interviewed with a gentleman. - we interviewed a gentleman called harry nicholls, - who wrote that bid book for fifa~ he said nobody p

Transcripts for BBCNEWS The Media Show 20240604 00:35:00

were being evaluated, | like nobody took qatar particularly seriously l the qataris admit them themselves. so, to some extent, not a ton was being written about them j because everyone looked at that bid and went, well, surely they re not going to go for that. . when they did, there was obviously kind of- a big shockwave and people, you know. went and reported on it more. that s naturally how. things go in reporting. but i think the important thing to to focus on with| the klopp comments is let s take the counterfactual. - let s imagine that people had published reams and reams l of paper saying how dangerous the qatar world cup would be for workers, i how impractical it d be. let s imagine that there - was just hours of of air time and millions of column inches devoted to it. . it wouldn t have madel a blind bit of difference because the 22 men | and they were all men who voted for this they - didn t even read the bid book. didn t even read the bid book, really. we spoke w

Transcripts for BBCNEWS The Media Show 20240604 16:34:00

went and reported on it more. that s naturally how. things go in reporting. but i think the important thing to to focus on with| the klopp comments is let s take the counterfactual. - let s imagine that people had published reams and reams l of paper saying how dangerous the qatar world cup would be for workers, i how impractical it d be. let s imagine that there - was just hours of of air time and millions of column inches devoted to it. . it wouldn t have madel a blind bit of difference because the 22 men | and they were all men who voted for this they - didn t even read the bid book, really. we spoke, we interviewed with a gentleman. - we interviewed a gentleman called harry nicholls, - who wrote that bid book for fifa. - he said nobody picked up the phone to him - and asked him . a single question. his conclusion was that these guys didn t even read it. - so what s the counterfactual? ifjournalists had written - everything possible criticising qatar s bid, these guys were not

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