obviously the ukrainians will be looking at changing some of those things. there also been questions raised about whether some of the documents were altered changed, so i think there will be some room for the ukrainians to make adjustment. it is certainly unfortunate that the extent of the access to the russian military was exposed, as dave said but i think the ukrainians will move forward and will stay obviously unified with us. its awkward obviously whenever any resident is being spied on by an ally and that s outed in the public domain, it is difficult to handle but i think as dave said, we will march forward and get through this. mar; said, we will march forward and get through this. get through this. may be ukrainians get through this. may be ukrainians don t - get through this. may be ukrainians don t have . get through this. may be l ukrainians don t have that get through this. may be - ukrainians don t have that much of a choice as dave said earlier as well. i want to get yo
russian about the access to high level russian information that the us is then russian information that the us is then passing onto ukraine, some is then passing onto ukraine, some of is then passing onto ukraine, some of that is obviously unhelpful for the us for that to get unhelpful for the us for that to get out in public because the russians can to figure out where the russians can to figure out where these leaks are coming from where these leaks are coming from but where these leaks are coming from but obviously it kind of underscored to a certain degree ust underscored to a certain degree just how underscored to a certain degree just how good the us intelligence around the world intelligence around the world in ukraine has been sol intelligence around the world in ukraine has been so i don t think in ukraine has been so i don t think ukrainians have much choice think ukrainians have much choice to think ukrainians have much choice to pull back from the us here
pushed out or stays, he will continue to fight on. that s true. but the ukrainians have the will to fight. they want to regain their territory. that s like someone some outside country telling the united states, it s okay that you have lost the eastern united states. just be satisfied with what you have. i don t think ukrainians will ever be satisfied that the russians have taken their territory. so they will be they will want to move to gain back that territory either militarily or diplomatically, but they will want to get back that territory. sir, thank you for being with us. thank you, john. the leaders of finland and sweden be meet with u.s. president joe biden on thursday, a day after both countries submitted their paperwork to join nato. the white house says this is a corner ship moment. turkey has been opposed to both countries joining the alliance and accused both countries of
prepared for a long conflict. this is just the early stages of this conflict, in my opinion. so what the ukrainians must do, as i mentioned, is to gain offensive strength, offensive weaponry and really plan to take back the territory that they have lost in this conflict in 2022 and then look to re-gain the territory they lost in 2014. but that will take a long effort, a long, hard effort. we re at the point where nato and the u.s. maybe needs to have a conversation with kyiv, with president volodymyr zelenskyy, maybe suggest that it is a pragmatic conversation, that it may be time to trim those war aids, lock in those wins instead of taking this bigger gambit and trying to push russia out of all of ukraine. regardless of whether putin is
forbidding overt political statements, the band was praised by many ukrainians for calling for the liberation of ukrainians and mariupol and inside the steel plant of azovstal besieged by the russians. soldiers sheltering in the steel plant belted out the lyrics as shelling could be heard from above. residents of kalush, the hometown of the band, gushed. translator: with all my soul, all my love, i love my kalush. and volodymyr zelenskyy promised to bring the singing contest to ukraine next year. and now they re planning to tour europe to fund raise for the ukrainian soldiers and charitable foundations for ukraine. translator: people say ukraine is my mother and take it that way. that s why this song is now even