proof, the evidence, their witnesses, and so forth. so i think that mr. trump and the other co-defendants, they ve got to buckle up, because they re facing some real problems in fulton county. clark, one difference in this case from the special counsel s case regarding trump s efforts to overturn the election is the use of the rico statute, which as you know, used most often, and by the way, rudy giuliani used this liberally in new york against organized crime, also gangs, et cetera. in read thing indictment, how do you think fani willis applied this, and do you think she s made the case? i think she used the rico act very, very effectively. the idea of the rico act, you can take lots of different actions by different people over a large period of time, and you can link them together to create
going to go with this. 17 defendants, and you want to try it in six months, are you out of your mind? somes like he s taking something of a shot there at the district attorney you worked with before. how do you respond to rudy giuliani? i want to laugh, first of all. i think that would be the response on anyone who has set foot in the district attorney s office in fulton county. i believe that ms. willis has been prepared, has been preparing. that s why this has taken so long. she s putting in the work with her team, not just to get the indictment. understand that that s you know, that s a lower burden, we re talking about probable cause. we once had a saying as a prosecutor, you can indict a ham sandwich. she s preparing this for trial, proving this case beyond a reasonable doubt. and i m willing to say that i bet the prosecutors have already started lining up their line of
met with volodymyr zelenskyy. g i m soupsupposed to call you. i spoke with vivek early on. seems like a smart guy. maybe i ll have him on the show, but his statements keep getting more bizarre by the day. he talks about defunding the fbi. he says stupid stuff like this. you know, it s more, i think, a reflection on him, of course, but it s also a reflection on just how crazy these republican candidates think they have to be to win the votes of the base. what is going on out there? he s having to say this. by the way, for the record, this is a guy that i don t think voted republican until 2020, and he wrote in his book that donald trump behaved abhorrently after january the 6th.
says. because most of the people who worked for him in the first term that he selected, that he appointed, say he s not fit to be president of the united states. if you believe them, if you believe trumpers, if you believe the trumpers in the indictment, a second trump term would be devastating to american democracy. and here we are, charlie sykes, i will admit that even after donald trump got elected, i thought, i thought america would come to its senses. i thought republicans, my former party, would come to its senses. i remember steve bannon proudly bragging that he was a lennonist, and as a lennonist, he wanted to tear down government. tear down all the institutions that lifted us up. tear down all the institutions that created the american
justify that. then she questioned why he was using two grand juries to continue to investigate whether there had been obstruction of justice in this case. now, you know, there are some rules about continuing to investigate a case with a grand jury effort has been indicted. you have to be investigating pursuant to a separate indictment. chuck rosenberg to speak more into that. it s not a nutty notion that she would question that, but it did seem like she was a little bit surprised that there were two grand juries in the case when the prosecution had already laid that out in previous filings, joe. yeah, it seemed to be bad faith. speaking of bad faith, the judge in the e. jean carroll case, where the judge said mr. trump raped e. jean carroll not pleased. the countersuit against writer e. jean carroll.