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Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 14:43:00

show. yep. and also so are we. i know. you re having a debate. i m saying to mika and others don t catastrophize. right. there are times i think we came in probably on january the 7th or 8th, you ve got a couple of days, and yet i ve heard republicans and democrats both say we need to get this set up, our committee, we have to be able to call a little dangerous. there are republicans and democrats who believe this is dangerous if, for instance, the house members the intel committee, the gang of eight can t participate in that information. where do you stand on this? if it keeps going on, is this a danger to america, or do you think it s just the way things get done? listen, i mean, i think we ve only had two days. my hope is we get through this today and hopefully have leader mccarthy become speaker.

Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 11:21:00

clauds these people are as far as legally. they re just legally just plotting their way through, in a way, i mean, to indictments. some of these are indictments. just like there was laughter at abscam with them shoving the money in their pockets, they would be that stupid to think they could get away with it. well, yeah. we laughed at their stupidity. they also ended up being indicted, also got sent to jail. and, again, how i just say, i said this on january the 7th. on january the 7th. how does donald trump not get indicted for conspiracy to commit sedition? if you read if you read the statute, if you read other

Transcripts for MSNBC The Mehdi Hasan Show 20240604 01:53:00

hilarious tweet from another spin merchant, sorry, independent journalist, michael schellenberg, or who breathlessly reports that senior officers at twitter discuss taking action against trump on january the 7th. no mention of why that day, january the 7th, is rather important. i mean, who knows what happened on january this sixth. it s important to know that in the midst of all of this clown airy, former twitter employees have had their private emails and messages released. they ve been harassed and threatened. they understandably concerned about their safety going forward. musk justifies these leaks on the basis of transparency. sunlight is the best disinfectant, he says. where are his files? related to him and his internal communications, how can they have not been released? how come he s reportedly threatening to sue twitter employees who dared to lead to the press? oh, the hypocrisy. coming up at the top of the hour with a man, democratic congressman mondaire jones on

Transcripts for MSNBC The Mehdi Hasan Show 20240604 11:41:00

resistance, the truth is she slowed walked both trump impeachments. that if they count told in a new book unchecked, the untold story behind congresses botched impeachment of donald trump. i spoke to the co-office in this rachael bag, both on capitol hill for the washington post during the trump, years now pentagon correspondent for the, post and rachel is a coauthor of political playbook. thank you both for joining me. congratulations on the book. rachel, let me start with, you there is a common argument from democrats that it wouldn t have mattered what they did in any impeachment procedure, you never would have gotten enough for senate republicans 17 to convict. but your book complicates that narrative. what did you find, especially when it comes to the second impeachment was nancy pelosi could have started on the morning of january the 7th? if you re on a serious including republicans, but didn t. i mean this notion that democrats argue that nothing would have changed no matter

Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 10:42:00

election, what does that look like, and the first thing out of his mouth, he says, well, hillary clinton hasn t and i said, she conceded on election night, what are you going on about. oh, well, she complained about russia. okay. she conceded on election night. and so, you know, what s different is this time around, like, i broke a story this morning which has lots of new internal e-mails that we have obtained between trump lawyers, between the dates of december 30, 2020, and january the 7th, and even on the night of january 6th when the capitol had been ransacked, police are trying to secure the capitol. congress is trying to get back and vote, trump himself was on the phone to his key lawyer, cleta mitchell, talking about the georgia lawsuits that they were trying to pursue to overturn the election in georgia. so they re committed to this. it failed in 2020, really

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