effort to out a supreme court justice who was sympathetic. they tried a recall that failed miss rally last week. i think that mitch daniels is able to talk about the idea of getting rid of government workers completely is the important thing. bill: they are all trying to figure out how they interpret the vote from wisconsin. how do you interpret this? i think this will be something like prop 13 back in 1978. it was an effort by howard jar jarvis to keep the taxes down. it will be the beginning of all sorts of states and cities making major rollbacks in pension and benefits expenses. bill: keep in mind what walkers did. he had workers contribute more to their retirement fund basically. for example, the taxpayers share of health benefits i believe was about 94 cents on