that some of these efforts have been counterproductive. if you go to court and ask for an answer, you may get locked into an answer you do not want. it is polarizing because there are really two different world views that are drifting further and further apart over whether the issues that engage the aclu and these important national- security measures where detention policy, rendition policy, all that stuff and even now when some of the domestic surveillance in ordinary law enforcement like the gps case and the strip search case we really start to live if we are living in a different era. it is not clearif the courts and american society are receptive when we move away from puny anonymity. a peace keeping group that offered to provide the nine assistants to a group that had been labeled as provide assistance to a group that had been labeled as a security threat. all that was involved was pure speech to help these guys solve their in differences peacefully. and bin proba