you see him here with governor perry. in his introduction he did not use the word cult or specifically attack romney by name but there was no doubt he had the former massachusetts governor in mind when he drew there is contrast. do we want a candidate who is skilled in rhetoric or one skilled in leadership? do we want a candidate who is a conservative out of convenience or one who is a conservative out of deep conviction? do we want a candidate who is a good, moral person or do we want a candidate who is a born-again follower of the lord jesus christ? rick perry is a prompt leader. he is a true conservative. and he is a genuine follower of jesus christ. it was in a conversation with reporters after that dr. jeffers used the term cult. pastor of the first baptist church in dallas. he with us now. you re criticism of 0 the mormon church, you came today to a political event, an event very, very important to governor perry stumbling in the polls of late and you dropped this,