48 to 47 . Sanders joking about the clintons detour out west. I saw clinton racing to california and bill clinton racing to california. Maybe they see this campaign is not quite over. [ cheers [ cheers ] this afternoon secretary clinton is giving her speech since donald trump became the presumptive nominee. Joining me now is kasie hunt whos covering the democratic race and from the Washington Post and katy tur whos been covering donald trump. Well, anne, first to you, you have covered hillary as secretary of state on the road on the campaign. And interestingly on the washington abc polls for may, it has been within a couple of points, within the margins of registrar error in terms of who had the advantage . One expectation that the campaign has had, hillary would hold an advantage once it came to the general election because her Foreign Policy and National Security experience in an area where many candidates are judged. She will be judged strong and they only felt that would be more th