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>> what do you make of t fact the men went in again. >> looking back at operion desert storm. michael douglas! >> a the golden globes, his inspirational speechrought hollywood to itsfeet. >> i wouldn't wish it on m worst enemy. >> advertise first in-depth interview. >> nobody's been through much. >> matt lauer with the latest. >> you worried me a little bit. >> on a leading man's life changing journey. >> you just really, really appreciate what' important in life. royal wedding bells are still months away. b is kate middleto's honeymoon with the british tabloids over already? >> wring a sheer top without a bra. >> the pressure is on. can she stand t iping? >> she's a royal unlike any royal we've er seen. >> kate snow on testg the heart of a princess to be. good evening. welcome to"dateline." i'm ann curry. as congresswoman gabrielle giffords and others recuperate, there' on wound that may take loer to heal than any other. here's brian wiliams. >> i lost a friend two weeks ago. she was inmy life you would have loved her. >> reporter: by now we all know her story. 9-year-old christina tayor green, so cruelly gunned down two weeks ago in tucs. born on9/11, which her parents thought was a symbol of he. instead, in her death, s became a symbol of grief. but to suzi hileman, the woman whoccompanied christina on that fateful day, she was mply a friend. >> she was one of those bright-eyed, open to t world, high self-esteem kids. she had those eyes. and she just wanted to listen. whatever we talked about. she was up feverything. for anything. >> reporter: they had an unlikely friendship. suzi, a 58-year-old former social worker, and her sband, bill,moved to tucson after a two-year search for a place to retire. they efriended their neighbors, the greens, tee years ago. they were immiately smten by christina and came to regard her as an adted grandchild. in a house that is yet without andchildren. >> my childrenre not there yet. and ther is no prsure. >> reporter: sce there is no pressure,hristina taylor green -- >> was mine. >> reporter: was a great friend and a great neighbor. >> and i knew, having be the parent of two chdren, that if somebody you trust rings the bell and says, is one ofour kids aroud, i'm bored and i don't want to goo the grocery ore by mylf, that's like a gift fr god. >> repter: in christina suzi found a kindred spirit someone who found a growing interest in politics. so when the congress on your corner event cam up, suzi thought it would be the perfect excuse for a get-togeer. that sounds funny to use the expression you were her budding political ment. there was a reason behind the trip that saturday. >> oh, ts was not a random visi i g a robocall on my phone. hi, this is gaby giffords,come to safeway tomorrow and tell me how we can make government work betr for you. this is a chance to meet her. and it was going to be a pretty day. i called roxanna and asked if christina wasfree, could i ask herf she wanted to go. >> reporter: the thirdgrader, newly elected to her school's student council jumped at the invitation. christa's mother, roxanna, remembers her little girl's joy at the prospect meeting a al live memberf congress. >> she was excited about it. sheanted to ask her questns. she wanted to learn more. >> reporter: that saturday, january 8th, suzi picked up christina justefore 10:00 a.m. >> chrisna comes running out of the garage with a big smile on her fae. roxanna looks at hernd says, christina,here is your sweatshirt? iold you to bring your sweatshirt. so christina gves her the look. you know the look, right? >> reporter: sure. i raised two kids. >> roxaa and i, i don't think i've ever had a conversation i've been happier to have in my life. rox, does she really want to do thi thiss a dorky political thing with an o lady. suz, anything u take her to, she's going to love. >> reporter: on the driveover they talked out the questions she might ask the congresswoman. by the time they arrived at the even the little girl was bubbling with excitement. >> one of the staffers asked us to sign in, please. my fvorite thing fromhat very mome was that he aske us to sign in. he didn't come and shake my hand. he shook christi's hand, he shook my hand and he said would you ladies sign n? imagine a 9-year-old girl gettingo sign in to do something. she lov it. christina taylor green, her address, her phone number. i don't have an e-mail. the stfer lned over and said, that's fine. she goes, i'm ging to get an e-mail. she never got a chance to get r e-mail. it not right. >> rerter: as they waited i line to meet gabby giffords, christina held suzie's han the two friends stood admiring the congresswoman's tfit. it was like it was her idol. >> i had told her that she cou grow upto do this. chrtina, let's do the math. christina did math. how many senators do we have? how many representatives do we have? let's add the president and the vice president. you got that number? th make the ws tha tell us how we live here in america toda and you are going to get to shake her hand. >> reporter: wow. >> then shot. >> reporter: that was the last ing. >> sorry. >> repoer: suzie watched te congresswoman fly to the ground. then realized she and christina had been ot, too. >> ne thing i remember is, i'm lying on e concrete. and christina is to my lef and she was beautiful. and she didn't talk. but we were eyeball to eyeball. and i'm yelling at her, christina taylor green, don't you die on me! don't you go aw from me, girlfriend! you stay -- don leave me here to do this by myself. stay here, where are -- chriina? christina taylor green? and she's looking at me, and it was -- she s wondering. she was confused. she was asking me what is going on? >> reporter: suzie had been shot three times in her thigh, abdomen and chest. the haest wound to face would be in the days ahead as she came to terms with what had happened to her young friend. for three urs a week, i'm a coach. but when i was diagnosed wi prostate cancer. i needed aoach. our door was great, but with so many tougdecisions i felt lost. unitedhealthcare offered us a ecially trained rn who helped us weigh and understand all our options. for me cancewas as scary as a fastball is toome of these kids. but my coach had hithat pitcbefore. turning data into useful answers. we're 78,000 people looking out r 70 million amecans. that's health in numbers. unitedhealthcare so we take time to sit down for lunch olive garden and we enj catching up as mucas we enjoy the meal... announcer: 's the unlimited soup, salad, and breadsticks lunch. only aolive garden. featuring four homemade soups. enjoy all you want for just $6.95. ♪ [ chuces ] ♪ how are those flat rate boxes working out? 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>> i had been there aboutn hour in that room when john and rock n xanna gen came through te door. their faces told the story. >> reporter: it was heartbreaking news for bil he kew it would be even harder fo suzie. >> the first real communication i got was whenhe took my hand, she looked me in the eye, and she sa what about christina? and we told her the exact truth, that she had passed. > reporter: suzie was in serious condion clouded by heavy painmedication, drifting in and out of consciousness. it would be days before suzie would fully understand that christina had died. though looking bk now she belies she mig have known it a along. >> i think i knew lying on the ground. >> reporr: yeah. >> while i was looking at her, er face changed. reporter: yeah. that moment. >> i think i know lyin there on the concrete in front of the safeway. b she wasn't by herself we we there together. >> reporter: holding hands? >> holding hands. >> porter: as christina's death sank in, a devastated suzie struggled with overwhelming emotions. but she found solace from the most compassionate sources, the greens themselv. they vited suzie in the hospital and, in an act of extraordinary gerosity, thank her for her friendship with christina. >> i could sayo roxan that i was sorry, and she could say to me that sheas sorry, too. and we hugged. and she hugged me as much as i hugged her. we were friends before. ware friends now. and we will be friends forever. and notecause of this. because we werfriends. >> rerter: last tuesday, ten days after the shooting, suzie was released from the hospital. th first night she got surprise visit from sheriff's deputy who had administered cpr to chrisna. >> i so glad you'rehome. >> so am i. and thank you. thank you for all th you did. >> rerter: for suzie, recovery will be a slow ocess. and that's tough for a woman used to doing everything fast. a take-charge new yorker, ivy leag educated, and addicted to fitness. >> first 're just going to stand f about two minutes. then we're going toit back don. >> reporter: she says her daily regimen of pilates and yoga h accelerated her healing. >> i was able to go straight to the hospial from my house, skipping skilled nsing, that whole lel of care, because i could transfer from the bed to th wheelchair. >> repoer: now she'll focus on rehabilitation an therapy, dealing with motions aemotns an memory. yore just beginning the proces howo you process i >> how do i process it? i focus on christin i wt back and looked through my camera. you know, my videomages of christina. and i printedout a picture of her when she'd gone with me to a cornell club ent here locally at the reed park zoo. she's scruned in aittle half dinosaur egg shell. she had r christina face on. d was growing out her bangs. you know, she never got them behind her ears. i think a lot aboutthat. i let myself cry. >> reporter: you were just doing a nice thin >> right. i took cistina taylor green on january 8th, 11, to see gabrielle giffords, and i said to christina, that cod be you. there is no reas on god's green earth that you can't grow up and be that if that's what you want to be. >> reporter: why cldn't she have been aember of congress? >> absolutely. ablutely. or why couldn't she have been president, ian? you didn't know her. she was christina taylor green. >> coming up, the men who led operation desert storm. >> the american people wl demand revenge, and we have the means to exact it. >> after 20 yrs, looking back at the rst gulf war. ater -- >> this is life and death. >> it's a hi-stakes battle he says he's winning with the help of his high-profifamily. >> it shows you a depth of feing that has chaed my life. >> michael douglas shares new dails on his inspiring recovery from cancer. when "datine" continues. aflac? 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>> not so much anymore. i men, he's a bad guy. and we've seenhat in a lo of ther ways since then. but it was -- wasn't as persoal with me as it was just the wholedea that they went in there and took over this whole other country. >> rerter: the former president commemorated the 2th anniversary of the first gulf war byathering together the men who were his closest advisers at his presidenal library in texas. there wavice president, dan kw quail. secretary of state james bar. secretary of defense dick cheney. naonal security adviser brent scowcroft. collinpowell. lookg around, what do these men mean to you? >> a supreme team. the whole country should be grateful forthat historic period. >> reporter: lookinback. whereere you? do you rember physically the moment you learned iraq had entered the -- gone acrosshe border and into kuwait? >> i think brent told me that. >> he was lying on the massage table. >> reporter: the united nations demanded that saddam hussein withdraw his forces by mid-january of 1991 or face the consequences. >> th will not stand. is will not and, this aggression against kuwait. >> repter: bush and his team uilt a coalition of almost 40 natns and prepared for attle. >> a line has been drawn in the sand. >> reporter:s resolute as he was in public, the looming war weighed heavily on the president. and as afather, mr. bush rried how his grown children, one of them fute president, would view his actions. mr. psident, new year's eve, 1990, you write to yo five children. letter that's now part of u.s. histy. unearthed from the pridential archives. i ok at today's isis as good versus evil. yes, it's that clear. i know my stanceust cau you a little grief from time to time, and that hurts me. but here at year's end i just wanted you to kn how i feel. ever human life is precious. the little iraqi kids, too. i shall do what must be done and i shall be strengtned every day by ou family love whh lifts me up every single day of my life. i love you, devotedly, dad. >> at that juncture, i mean, i worried about howhe kids would feel and how their reaction would be andhow their peers would view all this. but that -- you ow, that's what a dad's supsed to do. >> reporter: a week after he wrote th letter, president bush sent his secretary of state, jes baker, to meet with his iraqi unterpart, tariq azeez. baker remembered they re ncerned saddam might use chemical weapons or worse. >> the exact words i used with is were, if you use weapons of mass struction against our forces, the american peopl will demand revenge. and we have the means to exa it. and then i said, mr.minister, that's not threat. it's a promise. and then we learned after saddam captured and they asked him, why didn' youse your chemical weapons he said, it was because of the waing baker gaveaziz in e meeting in geneva. >> reporter: back in shington, chairman of the joint chiefs colin powell recalled a warning he had dlivered toecretary chney. >> it's ugy. you'll see bodies burningn tanks. and yohave to be ready for it. dick and i had a long conversationbout this. >> reporter: january 16th, 19, with the full areement of all the men in the room the united states went to war. >> just two hour ago, alld air forces bgan an attack on military targets in iraq and kuwait >> generalscowcroft, was there a moral imperative to this invasion? the cynics say, we had watched other military actions i history an chosen not to get involved. at was it about is? i think it was about the pattern that we wted to establishor the world emerging from the cold war. th aggression, simple naked aggreion, ought not to be allowed as a part of this new world order. >> reporter: the war was over in a little more than 40 days. kuwait was liberated. >> i can report the nation, aggression is feated. the war is ovr. >> reportr: but u.s.orces were stopped short of baghdad, and saam hussein survived and ived to fight again another day. and, of course, over decade later, the prident's son, the 44th president, took our nation to war again. this time to get saddam hussein. mr. president,the decion to nd the war when you did, tell us about that. >> we had objective. thebjective was to kick this guy out of kuwait. so when people came to me and said, it over, we won, that was fine. that was enough. >> reporter: did any of the gentlemen at this table advocate going further? to baghdad? to saddam. were you presen when anyone of senior rank did? >> no. >> no. >> no one did. >> not at al >>eporter: mr. vice president, this brings us to one of many ephants herein this sizable room. and that is, true or false, the way gulf war one was executed and when andhere it stopped led most by definition to gulf war o. >> i guess i would take exception to that, brian. a lot of the advice w got when we g through gulf war one was that saddam hussein would never be able to survive that kind of defeat. he dd. >> reporter: and while the first gulf war lasted just over a month with minimal u.s. casualties, the second gulf war gs on after almost eight years. mr. president, what do you mke of the fact that the u.s. went in again? 3,483 killed in actionas of today. 32,000 wounded. >> well, i don't worry about i anymore. i really don't. in this little chapter we did what we thought we had to do. we did it superbly with these people her and tim marches on. coming up,prince lliam's bride to be faced this. but is she ready for this? 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[ thinking ] well-played. mcdonals dollar menu at breakfast. the simple joy of being smart. she ispoised, lively, and appea to step into her new role as the wife of the future king of england. nitial reaction to kate middleton and prince william's engagement aouncement was overwhelmingly positive. even in the often critil british tabloid press. now theone of the scrutiny has changed. the sniping hassrted. here's kate snow. >> rerter: just two months have passed since prince william and kate middleton announced the royal engagement to a swarm of cameras and gave their first interview together. >> i don't kno what i'm rt of -- i don'tnow the -- learn quickly and work rd. >> reporter: from the beginning of their relationship, the prince has tried tohield kate as much a possible from press criticism. b with the royal girriend now set to become a princess, it's running fl tilt. >> the headlines in britain are becoming re and more desperate, really. >> reporter: how have you seen the press changing on h? has the pressure ramped sn eed ? >> the funny thingith the british press when the engagement was announcd, we were all weirdly respectful for a while. which is not like us. >> reporter: weirdly resptful? >> yeah. it was calm for a little bit. ow we can see it ramping up again. >> report: one of kate's recent outfits had the royal fashion police ready to pounce. >> s recently attended a friend's wedding wearing a black outfit whichort ofshocked all the style commentator. they said who wes black to a wedding? >> reporter: what's wrong with black? >> apparent this is a completely -- nobody does it. >> reporter: not to a wedding? >> fair enough. but more than that she was wearing a sort of sheer top underneath without bra. so this spawned endless columnist about should you wear anything without a bra at a friend's wedding? was this kind o trying to upstage the bride? >> repter: aside from that dress, some tabloid reporters and bloggers went after kate even fuher. >> one thing all the papers picked up on, one in particular, was that e seemed to have lost a great deal of weight. and there was speculation that e'd embarked on a dangerous diet prior to t wedding or, perhaps, sily that thetress of theseast few months was getting to her. now, actually, she's a very naturaly slim and petite young dy. but one paper memorably said what she needs is a few good hearty meals iideher. which d seem to be pushing things in a rather dangerous rection. >> reporter: it sounds vicious, ctually, to pick on this poor girl. she's a bride. >> yeah, i know. >> reporter: of course she's going to be losing some weight, right? all brides do. >> the tabloid press is always looking for something. >> reporter: christoer andern wrote the new book "william and kate: a royalove story." he says this focuson kate's eight should set off alarm bells before th wedding bells. >>this is a little frighning to me. because when you look back at what happened to diana and the fact that just a random, a casual remark by her husband, he sai, well, getting a little chubby there, sent hernto this kind of bulemic tail spin -- >> reporter: prce charles said that? >> yeah. >> reporter: prince charles wasn't the only one commenting abt diana'sweight. the tabloids chimed in, saying he should worry about her baby fat. she would later speak openly about suffing from bulimia. >> i'm afraid the criticismof kate's weight might lead to an actual problem. >> reporter: is the palace awar of the dangerf this talk about body image and weight? do you think the palace would be worried it could go the same way it did wi diana? >> i think the palace would be very worried and very, very protective of her. prince wilam haset a precedent here. he's come out very strongly and said, don't you do to myiancee what you did to my mother. this is effectively what he told the ess. i think if it looks like they are hounding her, whether it be about her weight or anything else, he will come forward fighting. >> reporter: and though the comparisons with diana are inevitable,hose who've met her insist kate is a verydifferent perso far more prepared for t pressures than shy di ever s. >> i think shcan definitely handlet better than diana could. she comes from aery stable background, and s's had plenty of time to get used to this. don't forget, diana was 20 when she married, wch is unbelievably young. i men, nobody could hale that kind of scrutiny. >> part of what i think is an innate stability, she is as self-assured, as, kind of, solid as diana was, mercurial and at times flyty. she knows who she is. i think she knows who she because she's aoyal unlike any royal we've seen. comng up -- >> roses, all those corny things. >> he's bk in the spotlight. and tonight shares h story. >> i feel good. the tumor is gone. >> the last on the life and death battle that's brought a legendy hollywood family even closer. coming up friday o "dateline." written in blood. >> there was blood on the ground. >> a loving mother and father, dead. left behind, a family in mourning. and letters scrawled in blood. >> there was obviously some ty of message. >> but what was the message? the name of the killer. a clue to the motive would it solve this mystery or add to it? >> you had online threads of peopltrying to crack is bloody message. ihola! oh! gracias. come pina para un vie de burro. you said his wife swallows pineapples f donkey rides. dirty mouth? cle it up with orbit tropical remix. r a good clean, fruity feeling no matter what. is enjoying it tether. and rht now, a complete seafood dinner for two is just $29.99 at red lster. you both get a fresh salad d irresistible cheddar bay bcuits. two entrs, from a menu of classic favorites and new creations. and your choice of either an appetizer or a dessert to share. your favorite seafood with yo favorite person, just $29.99. for a limited time at red lobster. for decades he's bn onef hollywood's most coveted leading men. tonight, it seems s own story might have a holloodending. e news was alarming five nths ago when actor michael douas announced he'd been diagnosed with stage iv throat cancer. bu now he's announced he's tumor free. and in his fit in-depth interview sinc his treatment, he shares the latest on his battle and his blessings. here's matt lauer. >> reporter: seems like whenever somebody comes in do an interview i either say it's good to see you or i'm happy you're here. and you know what, buddy, i really mean it. m happy you're here. >> thanyou. i feel the same way. trust me. >> reporter: it's the hollywood comeback everyone hoped for michael douglas back on t red carpet. celebrating good news about his health >> you smell the roses,ll those corny ings. a chance see all your friends both in film and television. and it's special to be here cancer free. >> reporterhis wife, catherine zeta-jones, by his side. >> much closer. brought our family closer. much mre appreciation. >> repter: it was the couple's most public apprance since lastugust when douglas stunned his fanby revealing he had throat cancern "the late show with david letterman." >> i got cancer. so i've t cancer. >> reporter: not only that, it wa advanced. sta iv. >>istage iv where you want to be or not where you want to be. >> no. you like tbe down at stage i. you ju really, really appreciate what's important in life. >> reporter: douglas' ordeal began last summer with a persistent sore throat. then a doctor'sisit that changed everything. take back then, michael, when the doctor says toyou you've got throat cancer and it's stage iv. >> it'd been bothering me rough my tongu for a while. i'd actually gone through two rounds of different doctors. so when i s filly diagnosed by ear, nose and throat basically taking a tongue depreser andsomething popped up d i saw the doctor look at me, i looed at him, he said let's take a biopsy, isaid, this is not good. that's when i found out it was stage iv. the most chemo and radiation they can give you, intensely. the odds were good. it wast the mortality issue. >> reporter: you didn't let that into your mind? >> i tried not to. it certainly crosses yr mind. i tried not to. >> reporteri remember you going onith david letterman shortly after the diagnosis. you were etty optimistic. youooked great and you don't sound like you have throat cancer. why is that? >> because i'm on stage. >> reporter: i've had the benefit of having known you for a while, and i was wondeng, were you rely that optimistic or was this mhael douglas the actor? and were y publicly trying to put the best face forward? >> you know when y have a scheduled, like, a letterman show and you know you can't get out of it,retty good. we figured, look, let's just g this out of th way and move on. you put the best face forward, you know. let's see. ho many joes can i get out of it, i've go cancer. >> reporter:ut there was no joking about the grueling treatment he faced. seven weeks of radiation and chemoerapy. the morning or th day before that first radiation treatment or that first chemotherapy treatment, i mean, do the mind reel? do you sit and you hear all -- you think of all the hror stories you've heardver the years? >> yeah. you do. ou know, the hair loss and,ou know, the si effects of the chemotherapy that you've hear abou although they've done a really good job now of reducing a lot of e nause aspects. and y don't quite know what to expect with radiation five days a week foreven -- seven weeks. and you find out about two-thirds of the way in as your mouth really -- the mountain of sores in your mou really cotinue to enlarge and you can't swallow. >>how miserable was it? >> it was lousy. i woul't wish it on myfirst enemy. >> reporter: not only that, but it was all coming on the heels of what had alreadybeen a fficult year for dougla last april, his31-year-old son, cameron, was stenced to five years in prison for selling drugs. just a few months ter, his ex-wife, diandra, trie unsuccessfully to sue him for half s earnings from his latest film, "wall street: money never sleeps." >>nobody around he believes incomebacks? >> reporter: if there was a bright spot to focus on, douglas found it. the love and support of his family and friends. i was struck by something you said. it was an interview you gave recently. you sai quote, cancer has shown mehat family is. it showed me a love that inever knew really existed. if it's not too persona what do you mean by that? > well, it's not. it's something that most all cancer patients and survivors have gone through. but there's a new depth. you know, maybe it has to do because of the life threatening. all of a sudden the affection from my family, from my friends and fr my fans hit me at a much deeperevel than i wod ve ever have agined before. and it gave me a new appreciation of just how valuable, howrecious good friends are and family >> reporter: dougl has said his wife, catherin has been a source of great strength for him. something the couple spoke about recently at the palm springs internional film festival in lifornia where douglas received a lifetime achievement award. >> catherine, i think, out of e welsh trdition, general british tradition of stiff upper lif and c lip and carry on. as i've said, i married a welsh and not an italian. ma mamamia. >> reporter: i remember a few conversations you said, catherine's been great. my first reaction was, of course she's going to be. of course. this isour wife. but itoes surprise you when i guess maybe you just listen to words and hear them diffently when you're in is circumstance. >> i think . especially if you're -- if you're someone that's used to sort of taking care of other people or assuming responsibilities and always giving your best shot. and being vulnerae. it sows you an opening with your frids in particular, and a depth of feeling that i'll be eternly grateful for and has changed mylife. >> reporter: you've got two yng children withcatherine, dylan and carys. dylan is 10 and cays is 7 or 8. >> i told them about the cancer from thebeginning. >> reporter: it's a scary word for a child. >> it a very scary word. told them i was hopeful. i also took them dn for a couple diation treatments. so they came into the roo and they saw all the "star wars" treatment going around. they saw them puthe mask on your face. they have to kind of bolt you down like hannibal lector or something. >> reporr: so they can specifically mit the area. >> exactly. getthe area where they wantto get it. they thought it wascool, this space age stuff. so it made up for allhose days when dad was lying on the couch and couldn't get up. and their patience was really, really apprecied. cong up, how douglas's iless affected his wfe and his famous father. >> he came ba f ten days. came up to the apartment every day to see me. ♪ ♪ today was the day ♪ that i p everything in perspective ♪ ♪ i fell asleep ♪ when i woke up, everhing changed ♪ ♪ and the sky was turned off ♪ that was bere ♪ that was before ♪ you came along and you played me a song ♪ ♪ wita little bit of ve ♪ and a litt bit of yeah, yeah ♪ ♪ la la, la la male announcer ] at&t covers 9 of all americans. and six slices of krt 2% milk natural cheese for a dollar or less equals 22 grams of delicious whole grain that are good f you and your wallet. when you can have triscuit, why snackrifice ? 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[ male announcer ] the refreshingly simple bankamericard cash rewards edit card. apply onne or at a bank of america near you. - nearhave diabetes.people cashinhe united states. and one out of four pele who have diabetes don't know they have it. talk with yo doctor. don't delay. actor michael douglas is speaking out tonight afr months of grueling tatment for throat cancer. he's immensely grateful, he says, with the love and support from family and friends. but th other group of visitors, the aparazzi, not so much. here again is matt lauer. >> reporter: you've made a long career of appearing in he public ey up on the big scen. the leading man. the sex syol. there were some -- don't ake your head. modesty. misplaced mosty. you hadhotographers followin you around during this ordeal. there were some picture taken, michael, that as someone who's known you worrie me a little bit. u didn't look so gd. >> yeah. >> reporter: does vanity even come in at a time like tht? >> well, vanity didn't. but, you know, i didn't follow the tabloid stu and evything likethat. yeah. it was not a lot of fun. it's still not. they're there ever day. >> reporter:alk to me abt that. this is not a social scandal. th is not a marital issue. th is life and ath. >> it took some kind of -- i guess curiosity hasgotten a lot of coverage sort of following it. i resent the amount of it onur children, too. it us to be at least they would try to keep them ou of that. they don't at all. there was sort of a macabre enjment out of sort of watching meo down there for a while, ifel by the paparazzi. >> reporter:s unwelcome as the otlight can be, it's something michael douglas has dealt with his whole life. heis, of cour, the son of kirk douglas, legendary leading man. hlywood icon. spartacus. try fiing those saals. wasn't easy, but michael did it. first on television, then in string movies that helped define a generation and earned him two oscars. la year douglas returned to the role of rdon gekko with the movie "wall street: money never sleeps." >> goon gekko is back. >> repoer: just as that movie was about to hit theaters, douglas's cancer was diagnosed. oliver stone directed both "wall street" films. >> i di't know at the ime, i guess n one did, that he was sort of -- was tired an that he was probab in the early stagesand he was sick. so he probably was feeling it. >> reporter: instead of press interviews and premieres, douglas began aggssive treatment. his 94-year-old fathr, kirk douglas, who suffered a stroke in 19 which ft his speech mpaired, flew new york to be with michael. >> hcame back for ten days and cam up to the apartmentvery day to see me. >> boy, he looke awful. >> reporter: father and son have had their differences over the years. but they are clearly close. it's a familyond made tight by tragedy. in 2004 michael's younger brother, eric, died a drug overdose. for michael, the hardest person to tellbout his ncer was his dad. >> of course, iwas devastated. i lost my youngest son, eric. and here my older son says "cancer." it was rd for me. >> reporter: butf acting runs in this family, so does resilien. >> michae is tough. he's a caring guy, but he tough. >> reportr: a tough guy who's breathing a little easier. twoeeks ago doctors to h his latest scans looked good. >> i feel good, relieved, the mor is gone. but, you know, i have to check out on a monthly basis now to -- to maintain. i guess there's not a tot euphoria. it'll probab take a couple of months of getting ccked out to feel. it's been a wild -- a wild six-month ride. >> report: douglas's wife, catherine, was with him when he ot the good news. >> sit down in the ofce of the doctor's rom, and it's hard. i was completely lieved. i won't go intohe deils, but weid take our children out for a nice lunch. they had shirley temples and they were extremely happy. >> reporter: these days dglas is focused on the good thin. like being nonated for a golden globe as best supporting actor in "wall street:oney never sleeps." he didn't win. but when he presentedhe award fo best film -- [ appuse ] >> reporter:-- the crowd of llywood stars rose to pay him an emotionaltribute. >> there got to be a easier way to get a standing ovation. >> repoer: after what you've been through this yer, do nominations mean as much? >> well, they -- they actually dbecause, you know, you can't be out there promoting yourself, ou know? i mean, there's a fair amount of promoting that goes on for these nominations, trust me. i have another picture, "solitary man," wch i liked a lot. things started to chan over the past 10 or 12 year i walked into a room. only the old people notice me they know who i am. erybody else, i'm invisible. >> you're never insible to me. >> reporter: there's some oscar buzz about that on >> there's some discussion. but it's really tough for a little picture ich doesn't hav any promotion money, budgs attached to it, and you cat be out ere. >> reporter: what else ion the horizon? what else do you nt to do? >> oh, i'm going to bat you in golf. >> repoer: you did that before. >> i got have a few strokes. >>reporter: douglas is also set to star in a new movie, playing thelamboyant berace. it's a film his father is looking forward to. >> matt damon. i said, chael, i want to see that picture. you betteret it. >> reporter: it sounds cliche, but i don't know anybody who's been through cancer who hasn't id that it's changed them. so in wha way has it changed you the most? >> it's put a- it's put timeline on life. you know,e say a lot -- i'm 66 now. you ow, i'm fortunat i've got a mother who's 8 she'll kill me. she may be 87. father's 94. so, yo know, i feel good about those genes. but it's definitely a third ac and so you're a little more conscious of your time and how you choose to spend it. >> reporter: and er the years you've -- there's been a label attached to your name. you're most ofteintroduced as osar winner michael douglas. now there a good chance there will be another label attached to your name. >> right. >> reporter: you may be known a oscar winner and cancer survivor micha douglas. >> from your lips to god's ears. >> reporter: you like that one. >> i d >> that's all for this edition of "datele"

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