kazakhstan has some chechens, it s not clear these guys were islamic radicals, i don t know if they re muslims or not. i haven t been able to glean that from the news story. this phenomenon where politicians take any news and fit it into their preexisting ideology. at the moment it s opposition to immigration reform. the conservative argument is we re for legal immigration, we re just against illegal immigration. this is legal immigration. we re not going to have a set of policies that prohibit this. it wouldn t be america if we did that. at what point is there an institutional breakdown, where you see these people should not have been let in because of x. these people look like they were partiers, from a well-off background. the three new suspects. what are they supposed to have caught? mostly they just seem to be following the bro code, not the jihadist code. it s unclear if they had surveilled them if they asked 18-year-olds, do you happen to support radicalization against the uni