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this bridge. in somehow some way god almighty kept me here. we cannot give up now. we cannot give in. we must keep the faith, keep our eyes on the prize. we must go out and vote like we never ever voted before. let's do it! thelma is a different place. america's a different place. but we can make it much better! use the vote as a non-violent instrument or tool to redeem the soul of america. >> a few minutes ago, i spoke to congressman lewis by phone and i wanted to know why, given his illness, so much happening in his life right now he felt it was so important to be on that bridge in selma today. >> 65 years ago, i gave a little blood on that bridge, and i felt that i should come back and be here with the people because there's still hundreds and thousands of people in america that have been left out and left behind. people's voting rights have been abused or denied. people still standing in long lines when they come to register or when they come to vote. we must make it simple and easy for people to participate in the democratic process. >> in your memoir, you wrote about your experience in 1965, quote if there was ever a time in my life for me to panic, it should have been then, but i didn't. i remember how strangely calm i felt, as i thought, this is it. people are going to die here. i'm going to die here. what was it like to be back on that bridge in selma today? >> it was very moving to be back on the bridge today, to see hundreds and thousands of young people with their mothers, their fathers, their grandparents, great-grandparents, to see black and white people, hispanics, and others standing together, marching together, walking together, to not forget what happened and how it happened. >> in your remarks, you talked about the importance of voting. you said quote vote like you've never voted before. what did you mean by that? >> i simply meant that we have the power to change things, and the vote is the most powerful non-violent instrument or tool we have in the democratic society. we must use it. if we fail to use it we will lose it. >> you also spoke about redeeming the soul of america. what does that look like? >> we have to make america better. all the people. where no one is left out or left behind because of their race, their color, because of where they grew up or where they were born. we are one people, one family, we all live in the same house. that's the american house. >> but what do you see as the next step, because you spoke on the bridge how times are different today than they were in 1965, thank goodness, yet there is more progress to be made. what do you see as the next step? >> we continue to see all about young people, all about children receive the best possible education. we got to see that people are able to move up and not stay down. we must continue to -- we must respect the dignity and the worth of all of our citizens. we live in a strange period. i lived and grew up during the days of different presidents. i got to know president kennedy, met with him twice. it was the greatest sense of hope, greatest sense of optimism. we must find a way to inject into america a sense of hope, a sense of optimism for all of our citizens. >> what gives you hope today? >> i am very hopeful and very optimistic we will work everything out. it's the feeling that the changes that are continues to witness in so many different parts of america, and the american people want us to be hopeful, to be optimistic and to lead them to a better place, to a better time. that's what we must do. >> finally, what is your message to any young potential john lewis out there today, trying to make whatever it is they do count and make a better more equal more justice life for those that are in future generations? >> i always say to young people, to be bold, be brave, be courageous, never hate, whereas dr. martin luther king, jr. said on so many occasions. hate is too heavy a burden to bear. the way of love is a much better way. >> our thanks to congressman john lewis again. now joining us is cnn senior political analyst and former advisor to four presidents, david gergen and former south carolina state representative, bakari sellers. first, your reaction to those words to john lewis in selma. >> i have the privilege of knowing john lewis very well, a child of the civil rights time as well and my father was pret of what's known as snik and shot in 1968 with three other sounds. three others wounded and three killed. i look at john lewis as not just a hero but a representative of young african-americans that gave up so much so i could sit on a set with you today and david gergen. i don't think people truly understand, we talk about civil rights, how far we've come in this country, it's only one generation away. we're only one generation away from my father being shot, one generation away from john lewis being beaten on that bridge, one generation away from dr. king being assassinated, sarah mae from things, emmett till and others. the list goes on and on. we still have a lot of work to do. we have to, and i think david knows down south we have these funky sayings. one is you have to give people their flowers while they're living. we need to give john lewis his flowers and let him know we thank him and appreciate him and the struggle continues. >> david, you're thoughts. >> i'm glad to be here. bakari, as you know, he is one of the proteges of john lewis and what came out of the john lewis life and marched with him. that was to inspire a new generation, bakari's generation. we're one generation from the bad old days but could be close to the new bad days. we're going through a rough period now. to see john lewis come to the pettus bridge 55 years later, knowing as we do he's battling stage 4 pancreatic cancer has special meaning for us today. i'm glad we paused after south carolina, the primary there, to talk about the larger values. we get in these political analysis and down in the weeds and see a lot of scuffling. john lewis reminds us of the deeper values that bring us all together, i hope. >> he also reminded people of the power of the vote. vote like you've never ever voted before. let's talk about the votes. biden won big in south carolina last night. when i say big, he decimated the competition there. he won nearly every single county, nearly 50% of the vote. does this reset for super tuesday? >> he certainly qualifies as a comeback kid. only a few weeks ago he was ahead across the country and ahead by solid margins in california and places like texas that will vote on tuesday. everything changed and he went down and sanders went up. the question now is, can he continue going up again? there were a lot of people in big states like california and texas that supported them before, will they come back to him? i think he has a real shot in both states, especially texas, where he's very competitive. he's shows his bullance and confidence. he's a better candidate than a few weeks ago. really interesting living in a time an african-american community comes out and votes and res risk the candidacy of a white american. that's real progress. >> if you haven't seen our colleague, the shout-out he gave you way back on february 3rd, despite biden's fourth finish place in iowa he would win south carolina, he said, bakari was right and i was wrong. >> chris admitting he was wrong should be breaking news on cnn in its own right. i think we always said joe biden would do really well in very diverse communities. as david talked about california and texas i want to talk about tennessee, arkansas, north carolina, virginia and georgia later on in march, when you get to florida, these diverse communities are where joe biden will do well. i've always told people the base of the democratic party simply put is my mama and her friends. my mama and her friends, they came out last night like nobody's business. i have to give credit to tom steyer and bernie sanders. their campaigns were, on the ground, they were phenomenal. they were hitting doors and mailing and everything a campaign can do. what they cannot replace is the trust african-americans have for someone like joe biden. to put a pin in it. when we had john lewis, john lewis is a testament to how far we've come in this country and testament to the struggle people of color had to achieve any semblance of success in this country. we're not going risk that vote for an unknown quantity, being elizabeth warren, amy klobuchar, pete buttigieg, even bernie sanders campaigning the last four years. what african-americans will do is rest i sured if barack obama chose you as vice president we can probably have faith in you. >> i have breaking news we are getting during this course of conversation, a campaign aide saying pete buttigieg is suspending his campaign. david, what's your reaction? >> wow. i am both surprised. we hadn't expected that. that's breaking news. i think he's doing the right thing. every vote that will go to pete and amy klobuchar now and i think she will be under pressure after super tuesday is a vote possibly being taken away from joe biden, their ideological soulmate. i do think this was a generous gesture on the part of pete buttigieg. i also think he was the most articulate eloquent person in this race. i think he is a star, remains -- he still has a bright star for the future. he ran a good campaign. he came a long long way in a very short time and really stood for new civil rights in this country. >> we have more information he's going to be returning to south bend and will be making an announcement later today. bakari, what are your thoughts and how do you think pete is shaping the race? >> i look at pete as a friend. listen, when me or stacy abrams or gillam talk where we want to be, you have to give props to someone like pete buttigieg, who actually made it to the heights many of us want to get to one day in this political field. i go back to the "time" magazine cover with him. for me, that was a monumental moment in this country for civil rights to see a gay man and his husband on the front of the magazine. pete means so much to this process. let me point out two things. pete is trying really hard to remedy the blind spot from the african-american community. if he was going to withdraw from his campaign, there was no reason to be in georgia today. he believes in that and wants to get better at it. last but not least, nina and liz smith on the buttigieg campaign, nina and liz smith are phenomenal people, i think most people will acknowledge liz smith has probably been the superstar of this campaign. we get caught up in the big names but we don't pay attention to the people that make it go. i've been very hard and critical of pete. i always wanted him to do better. i love pete buttigieg. my hat is off to him. he is not the future of the democratic party, he is the right now of the democratic party. >> what do you see of the impact, going into super tuesday, this amonumennouncemen will make? will it benefit joe biden? >> every time steyer vote is a joe biden vote. every klobuchar vote is a joe biden vote. i don't know if david is a billionaire vote, that's my goal. every mike bloomberg vote is a joe biden vote. get out of the race. what are you doing? this is a two person race and a couple of egos, joe biden-bernie sanders race with the egoof elizabeth warren and mike bloomberg playing some role. just as joe biden had to overcome tom steyer he has to overcome mike bloomberg. pete buttigieg got out and he is light years ahead as he has he wherewithal to know he won't be president of the united states. >> i was just handed a transcript. >> no more breaking news, ana. we can't take it. >> i know. it used to be you could sit back and relax. not anymore. why? he said, that is why you're finding we are headed in a different direction than we were originally planning and looking forward to sharing with his supporters and the country where they go from here. he is planning to make his announcement at 8:30 p.m. we will be watching for that and bringing that to our viewers on cnn. david bergen and bakari sellers, we have to go. got to squeeze in a quick break. be right back. introducing botanica. unique home fragrances that finally capture the essence of nature's beauty by using natural ingredients to craft scents that work in harmony. warm vanilla and himalayan magnolia. french lavender and honey blossom. tropical pineapple and tunisian rosemary. creating a range of six exotic fragrance pairings that are responsibly sourced in a way that respects the planet. new botanica by air wick. nature inspired. planet conscious. >> tech: don't wait for a chip like this to crack your whole windshield. with safelite's exclusive resin, you get a strong repair that you can trust. plus, with most insurance a safelite repair is no cost to you. >> customer: really?! >> singers: safelite repair, safelite replace. atthe perfect schmearnow of cream cheese. the recipe we invented over 145 years ago and me...the world's best, and possibly only, schmelier. philadelphia. schmear perfection. 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>> not many endorsements count, but some do. clyburn's endorsement of joe biden in the closing days of the campaign definitely had an impact. i don't think the endorsement of biden itself carries so much impact but the fact the african-american community voted in such large numbers for biden coming out of south carolina will definitely help as bakari sellers was saying earlier, there are a number of southeastern states particularly voting tuesday. i think the clyburn-biden southern vote is a dynamic that is important. by the way, i think there are others that came out for biden at the last minute, like terry mcauliffe and jim kane in virginia. we talked very little in these political analyses of so few endorsements among colleagues. i think in the senate, pat leahy is the one endorsement he has gotten and joe biden has gotten a number of endorsements. bernie is trying to direct a movement. he's less interested -- >> david, we're having some problems with your mic. i want to give our folks a chance to fix that. i will ask you this question. sound is part of it and hopefully we can get the sound fixed. these candidates we have seen drop out since south carolina, tom steyer and pete buttigieg. the question is, do you get behind someone? a lot of people remember that moment when john mccain got behind george bush after holding his endorsement for weeks and didn't actually use the word "endorse" until pressed by reporters. >> why do you have difficulty using the word "endorsement" when you talk about president bush. does that -- >> say that again? >> i endorse governor bush, i endorse governor bush, i endorse governor bush, i endorse governor bush. >> awkward but better late than never, i guess. what are your thoughts, david, as far as who and when these candidates who are dropping out decide to make an endorsement? >> it would make a big big difference if they did it soon. that's particularly true of pete buttigieg and symptom steyer. i think both of them coming out, tai could guide something. i don't think everybody that voted for buttigieg and voted for him will necessarily go to biden but get a big chunk of it. if you want to help him, do it soon. don't do it later. it's too late in about three or four weeks. >> you were once an advisor of richard nixon and famously picked up endorsement of wilt chamberlain. do celebrity endorsements particularly make an effect? >> any time wilt chamberlain in dorsz richard nixon, that's news. there are odd things that go on with celebrities. the president i think got the most help from celebrities was probably john kennedy. he was surrounded by them and there was a rap pore he had with people in hollywood and really made a difference in his presidency. >> david gergen, thank you very much. sorry about the mic issues. >> not a problem. for staying on top of the coronavirus epidemic. dr. sanja gupta will let you know what you need to know as well as the new screening measures, when we come back. we're live in the cnn newsroom. this commute's been pretty rough, huh? it's great actually, i've been listening to audible. it's audiobooks, news, meditations... gotta go! ♪ ♪ hey! you know, i do think it's weird you've started commuting when you work from home. i'll be in my office. download audible and start every day off right. and i...was...shocked. right away, called my mom, called my sisters. i'm from cameroon, congo, and...the bantu people. i had ivory coast, and ghana...togo. i was grateful... i just felt more connected... to who i am. greater details. richer stories. and now with health insights. get your dna kit at ancestry.com. president trump announcing new screening procedures for people arriving from high risk countries when it comes to the coronavirus, as the number of confirmed cases are rising here in the u.s. rhode island is now the eighth state where a coronavirus infection has been detected. health officials from washington state continue to investigate a possible outbreak at a local nursing facility. two people there have tested positive and more than 50 residents and staff are being tested after exhibiting symptoms. two other infections are not linked to that facility but bring the number of coronavirus cases just in washington state alone to eight. across the country, there are at least 74 confirmed cases of coronavirus right now. a washington state man has died from the virus. joining us now is cnn chief medical correspondent, dr. sanjay gupta. a lot has happened over the weekend. bring us up to where this stands and how widespread in the u.s. >> we're seeing the community spread. you bring up washington state. there are several different patients there. some may have connections. the man who northerly died was treated at the same hospital as a patient being treated at that long term care facility. there was a healthcare worker there also working at that facility diagnosed. somebody who traveled to south korea, a postal worker and two men in their 60s. they're trying to figure out the links and you can hear how challenging that is. most of the time there is no link. a study came out that showed the genetic profile of the first coronavirus infection also in washington state seems to have a lot of similarities to these most recent infections. that first patient, january 20th. now, we're at the beginning of march. it could mean that same virus has been circulating in the community some six weeks now in that area. we did the math on that. if you figure out how many people would have likely been affected, the number goes into the hundreds at that point. >> that being said, do you see it as a good sign we don't know of all those other cases? >> that's exactly right. people hear there has been a lot of spread and that is alarming. the fact those patients had minimal or no symptoms and didn't show up at a clinic is a good sign and matches large data people are seeing out of china. 80% of the cases in china had no symptoms or minimal symptoms. not to minimize it. that's starting to ring true in the united states. much smaller numbers still, far smaller but the overall statistics appear to be pretty similar. >> let's talk about this new airport screening. how will new procedures help stem the tide of this outbreak? >> i thought about this a lot. i think they're necessary, clearly, obviously at the point of embarkation, see if people have symptoms or hear about their travel history. then, when they disembark as well, to make sure they haven't developed symptoms. there are a lot of people who don't have symptoms at all or incubation period where they haven't developed symptoms yet. you look at the number of people who have been screened up until february 23rd, some 46,000 people have been screened. 11 total have been sent to the hospital or clinic for further testing and only one person found to have the coronavirus infection. it's not a high yield situation. but they also educate patients if you do develop symptoms, self-isolation, don't be around other people. that is part of trying to contain this as well. i think it has value and by no means by itself. at some point as we see more of this spread i think the value will reduce. someone once said an infection anywhere is an infection everywhere because of global travel and the nature how we move around. for now it has value but that utility may decrease even more. >> when it comes to testing, the u.s. officials is acknowledging the u.s. is behind other countries, playing catch-up to test more people in more states at a much higher capacity. we heard the vice president saying 15,000 kits are available now. the expectation, at least 50,000 more test kits will be put out in the week to come. is that going to be enough? >> it's hard to say. in korea they already tested some 65,000 people and in the uk tested close to 8,000 people and have around 500. it's not clearly so far and not a situation you can play catch-up after the fact. the whole point of doing surveillance is try and find who is carrying this virus and isolate them so they don't continue to spread. >> nip it in the bud. >> nip it in the bud. if there may be evidence of community practiced in places across the country, the testing after a while may not have as much value because we know at that point the virus is here. testing from a medical perspective, i want to know if i have something or not. why? so i can do something about it. there is no specific therapeutic here. treat people the same way regardless whether you know they have coronavirus or not. from a public health perspective it's useful information, had been useful information. but i don't know we can play catch-up at this point. >> why? why were we behind? >> that's a great question. some of the first tests sent out turned out to be flawed with improper reagents in them. we were really ahead initially because the genome was sent to the cdc and the cdc was able to create a test. that happened really rapidly. why there wasn't a further movement of these tests around the country at what we call poc point of care locations is a little unclear, especially when you look at what was happening in other countries. south korea, 65,000 tests, doing several thousand test as day. >> and dry testing. >> yes. critical towards trying to contain this. we may no longer be in the containment phase because of testing. this is more about slowing it down. >> when it comes to who is vulnerable, i've been wondering as a parent of two young children that go to school and pick up illnesses quickly and we talk about the elderly and the most young being the most vulnerable. what are we seeing so far in terms of who is contracting and being impacted by this? is it the elderly and children as well? >> mostly elderly and people with pre-existing conditions. for some reason, they've looked at children and found while children have become infected and some have become ill, it's a much much lower percentage, and they're not entirely sure why. kids seem to be somewhat protected from this virus. it could be their immune systems are handling it differently and have seen it with other pathogens in the past. i have seen this with my colleagues and there is not a clear answer why this is. looking at data out of china, tens of thousands of parents, that is a pattern they're seeing. as far as elderly and people with pre-existing conditions, think about it like this, they may have less reserve to combat this virus and more likely to get sick if they have pre-existing conditions and more likely to get sick because of loss of reserve. kids seem to be somewhat protected in this. >> that is interesting. quickly, if you will, we heard the president say, people who are relatively healthy, if they get this virus, they should go on and be just fine. do you think we have enough information to know that? >> when you say 80% of people will have minimal or no symptoms, i think that's true. that data seems to be holding up as we have more and more cases. i think the vast majority of people will be fine from this. i do give the perspective, we don't pay enough attention of flu and it has a fatality ratio of .1%. you hear that, that's not me, very minimal. this is closer to 2%, 20 times higher. flu does kill tens of thousands of people a year in the country. this could be significant if it starts to spread around the country and in certain pockets of the country we have to be on it. >> looks like we have to take it very seriously. thank you. conspiracy theories brewing around the coronavirus. how right wing media may be contributing. before the bell report. investors will try to put a brutal february behind them but coronavirus will keep rattling the state department. it fell 10% from the recent high. goldman sachs says u.s. companies probably won't see profit growth this year and recession not out of the question and why they're betting the federal reserve will cut interest rates this month and meanwhile, data from the manufacturing sector and jobs reports from february are due. ♪ e*trade core portfolios is an easy, automated way to get invested. we'll save you time by building, monitoring and managing a portfolio for you and provide all hands-on deck support when you need it- helping you become top dog. ♪ managing lipids like very high tryou diet. exercise. tough. but if you're also taking fish oil supplements... you should know... they are not fda approved... they may have saturated fat and may even raise bad cholesterol. to treat very high triglycerides, discover the science of prescription vascepa. proven in multiple clinical trials, vascepa, along with diet is the only prescription epa treatment, approved by the fda to lower very high triglycerides by 33%, without raising bad cholesterol. look. it's clear, there's only one prescription epa vascepa. vascepa is not right for everyone. do not take vascepa if you are allergic to icosapent ethyl or any inactive ingredient in vascepa. tell your doctor if you are allergic to fish or shellfish, have liver problems or other medical conditions and about any medications you take, especially those that may affect blood clotting. 2.3% of patients reported joint pain. prescription power. proven to work. now with a new indication. ask your doctor about vascepa. as parents of six, this network is one less thing i have to worry about. 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up his supporters to lash out against some of these social distancing measures just minutes after a fox news report. the president again tweeting. liberate minnesota, liberate michigan and liberate virginia. no surprise these are democratic states. he said social distancing has been a tough process for some people. the president has also tweeted at new york governor comeau saying he should spend more time doing and less time complaining. get out there the president says in one tweet, and get the job done. govern govern governor comeau was holding a press conference and afterwards this is what he had to say. >> first of all, if he's watching tv, maybe he should get up and go to work. let's keep politics out of this and personal ego because it's about people and our job. what am i supposed to do, send a bouquet of flowers? >> the president's tweet also point to his own shortcomings. the president insists the states have to step up their testing. last month he said americans who needed a test could get one, a promise his administration failed to keep. the president said, quote, anybody who wants a test can get a test. governor comeau is voicing the same thing being expressed by the americans across the country it. we heard it on conference calls with governors and senators with vice president pence saying there isn't enough testing. >> i am with governor inslee. thank you for joining us. you say the president's tweet today and we have read them all, calling for the people to liberate various states. you say these tweets are unhinged and dangerous. explain why you believe they are dangerous. >> well, listen, i have learned to ignore a lot of the noise coming out of the white house because we need to do our jobs. republicans and democrats need to work together. i have had good communication with mike pence, for example. this is bomb bass particulastic encourages people to do dangerous things. yesterday donald trump put out guidelines we need to follow and today he came out and said people should not follow his own guidelines. let me give you an example. he put out guidelines that the three states he wants liberated can't remove social distancing because we have too much virus in those states as we do today. and today he says we should ignore the guidelines that dr. birx and dr. fauci and the whole government know is good policy to save lives. we c we have already lost over 500 citizens in my state. we cannot allow this to stand. >> how about saying you and the fellow governors should call the shots when before he said he had total authority. how do you reconcile that and the tweets today? >> i am not a psychologist so i can't reconcile them. a few days ago he said he had total control. whatever he did he had the right to do and he was going to order us what to do in our states. both republican and democrats pointed to a document called the constitution and he backed off the next day and said the governors would call the shot. the next day he put out guidelines that were fairly realistic. we appreciate that. we think when we have driven down these infection rates far enough and get enough testing we can reopen our economy. we are looking forward to that. the willing following day he ate governors that he gave this to yesterday. we had a good working relationship with a lot of people in the administration. admiral polacek trying to get us more test kits. we appreciate that work, but when that good work gets stepped on by the president which is essentially trying to pull the rope backwards, that we cannot abide. this is a very unfortunate replay of what happened in the first weeks of this when the president for his own purposes tried to down play the seriousness of this disease. that cost us probably a month in our national preparation. as we are coming out of this, we can't have that happen again. >> the virginia governor whose state was the state of one of the tweets had this to say -- >> i would say as the governor of the commonwealth of virginia, i along with this staff are fighting a biological war. i don't have time to involve myself in twitter wars. i will continue to make sure that i do everything that i can to keep virginians safe and to save lives. >> do you believe the president's priorities are the same? >> i have no idea what goes on in that space. all i know is it's injurous to the health of my citizens and citizens across the state. it is not just democratic governors on this. and you look at the governor of ohio. he has been a hero and done courageous things to save his hs in his state. those are demeaned when the president says we should kb back and party like it's 2015. it also stands in the face of his own experts and plan. that's why we need to ban together, republicans and democrats and do the right thing. >> in the last hour i spoke to one of the scientists behind the new leading coronavirus model, and he cited that is why washington state will be one of the states that can reopen sooner than most. what will that look like for you? >> we are looking forward to when we achieve two achievements. number one, that we drive the infection numbers low enough we are confident they won't spring back. we have driven the curve down, but we are not on the down slope of any significant amount. we have plateaued, so we are awaiting the day when we drive the fatalities and infections down a significant level. but the second thing we have to have in place is a robust testing program and a tracing army. if there is a fire in your house, the fire come and take care of you. we need the same type of system to make sure when we get pockets of infection, we can jump on them right away and prevent them from spreading in the weeks and months to come. we need those two conditions to exist. we are still trying to get test kits which are in short supply. that's why we have encouraged the federal government to manufacture these test kits so we can get more. we are still in short supply. >> on that issue, we have learned that the vice president offered no clear answers on testing during angry senators. i am quoting him -- senator king said i have never been so mad about a phone call in my life. how concerned are you that the administration doesn't have a clear plan in place to get all of the testing around the country that you and your fellow governors seem to need so badly. >> i am extremely concerned because -- i will give you an example. we have dozens of long-term care facilities and until the last couple days have had difficult getting test kits to test people who need to be tested. going forward we know we will have an increased number of demand for tests, not decreased, as people go back into these work environments. every governor is searching the world, if you can imagine this, for swabs for the viral transmission fluid for the vials that are necessary to get the tests to the lab. and we are searching the world to get additional analytical capability. i was on the call this morning with the co of roche company of switzerland to see if we could get additional materials for testing. i think there is a start down the path. i think admiral polacek is helping in this regard. we have a long ways to go and we need the federal government to pull on the rope. i am sorry they had a negative conversation with the vice president. i have had a number of positive conversations with him, but he has not been successful on this test kit manufacture yet. >> most of your colleagues have said they have had positive conversation with the voice president as well. i asked your fellow governor of rhode island, i asked her and i will ask you the same question. if the president is watching us right now, what is your message to him? 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abandoning this posture he had early in the week that he had total authority over the situation in terms of running the reopening of the country. yesterday he told the governors you are calling the shots. a beautiful puzzle. one state at a time. he seemed to abandon that. when the president started to tweet, liberate michigan, liberate minnesota, liberate virginia, those started just after fox news had a segment, a station the president watches a lot in addition to this one. there is an acknowledgment that the president is trying to distract the american people. that he knows the heat is on. there is a lot of criticism about his row responsible, ab - response. and he is chumming the waters to distract people away from many administration failures when it comes to this coronavirus. >> dana is with us, too. senators have become contentious as they couldn't provide information about testing. >> for the most part it was a good back and forth. the senators know vice president pence well. but when it came to testing, which was the issue, that's where it got contentious and got contentious with a senator who doesn't get contentious, senator of maine. the fact he got riled up tells you something. afterwards he sent to me in a text that he was really angry about the fact that it is the federal government's responsibility to coordinate this testing. that the states can have a say in it and can have a role in it, but the states can't do what the federal government can do in terms of a bird's eye view and the ability to get all of the resources needed across the country. he, just like some other senators on that call, were speaking as former governors. that was one of the big things. i can tell you he got pushback on those tweets that jim was talking about from jim kane of virginia, the man who if hillary clinton would have won, he would have been vice president, not mike pence. >> and also pushing states to reopen economies, but in order to relax social distancing policies, robust testing policies must be in place. i assume you agree. but apparently they are not. >> right. that's been the issue, that is the issue that will continue to be the issue is this testing. the testing for the virus specifically. there are two types of tests, the virus testing and the antibody testing. the virus testing, to test for the presence of the virus is important. to build on what danny wa was saying, testing, you think you get a test and get results back. but for that, you have to have labs and labs have to have capacity. that has been improved a lot with hospital labs and private labs, but all of the various components of testing, you need swabs, you need a way of transporting the swab to the lab. once it gets to the lab, you need other chemicals that can take the dna off the swab. all of these things are components that are in short supply in some places. everybody in the world wants these supplies. a lot of these supplies come from china. that's the issue i am hearing from public health officials in various states. maybe we have more capacity in our states, but we are not able to effect the supply chain and get these things from other governments like the federal government is. yes, testing has improved, but you need all of it to work to satisfy the needs of the state. it is hard to row open because you can't find who is infected and can't isolate. >> the new model just released says that only four states could start opening in early may while others need to wait until julne july or even later. how do you think the administration will respond to this new model which says by early august there could be 60,000 deaths in the united states. right now there are more than 36,000 confirmed deaths in the united states. >> well, these are always difficult numbers to hear, wolf. every time i hear it i can't believe we are talking about tens of thousands of people who are likely to die from this. i want to point out and have talked to the authors of this model quite a bit. there is a lot of variability in these models. even now you give the range of 60,000. the range is 40,000 to 140,000. we into the midddive into the m range. but they say up until the day before a state could be opened, they could adjust the model. they will constantly be adjusting these models. they are just models. we heard about wanting to see a 14-date trend downward in the number of people confirmed to have this infection. the modelers here put a number on it which i thought was interesting. they say they want to see less than 1 person in a million being diagnosed with the infection in order for them to think it has come down to an acceptable level to reopen. lots of things, the testing, tracing, hospital capacity. but i thought it was interesting that these modelers put a specific number, about 1 person out of 1 million new infections might be acceptable to start thinking about reopening. >> . >> dana, from your reporting, what are they telling him about the importance getting back to work, the importance of testing. >> there is a universal message. businesses, lawmakers, everybody wants to get the country reopened, want to get people back to school, back to work out in the world and society to be as it once was, but you can't do it without testing. you can't do it without the intricacies that go along with it that sanjay was just describing. so the president is still getting pressure from people he talks to on wall street, hedge funnele fund, others in the financial world champing at the bit to get reopened. but evenhe understand if it's not done safely, this country and their businesses will be right back where they were, maybe even in a worse position. there is that. but the other thing that jim was talking about, that you cannot discount, is that the president is listening to, as he has done since day one, conservative media and there is more and more of an uprising in conservative media about the motion of reopening. the question of whether or not the government has gone too far. not a question. it's a statement from their point of view. it does fly in the face of the polling we have seen publicly and others have seen privately within the parties, but the president, when he has an impulse, he goes for it, and unfortunately, that confuses a lot of people in a time when they just need leadership and there is already enough confusion to go around. >> that's true. jim acosta, how is the administration reacting to this new study just released that shows by august 4 they now estimate, given what's going on, with social distancing and all of that, they are estimating 60,308 deaths across the united states. that's down from a week ago when they estimated 68,341. what is the administration saying about this? >> privately, there are several talking about the models being adjusted. they are happy about that prospect. they are not happy about the fact tens of thousands are dying, but they are feeling a bit more optimistic about what the data is showing them at this point and that is driving a lot of this. the president is seeing this data. there are officials inside the white house who are of similar mindsets as to what dana was just talking about when she was talking about what people are saying in conservative media. there are people in the white house consuming that information as well and feeling the same way, that perhaps things were overdone in terms of shutting the country down. that is part of the push behind the scenes to accelerate this process. one of the things the president is running up against at this point, wolf, is that if you look at public opinion polls, just in the last week, last couple of days, they are showing a sharp downturn for this president. by and large americans are feeling less positive about the way the president has handled this. he has gone down six points in the last month according to the latest gallup poll. but inside the white house, they want to move things as quickly as possible. when they see one of these models, they say aha, there is justification for moving quickly. when you hear from the governors, the growing chorus is they don't want to go as fast as the president right now. >> we are told the president has authorized a $19 billion relief package for farmers across the united states who are suffering like everyone is suffering. he is very sensitive to farmers out there, another $19 billion will go to them. >> that's right, wolf. and part of the problem -- and this is an interesting development in all of this -- the farmers have been hit hard because of the president's trade war with china. there has been a relief package, billions have been authorized by congress, signed by the president to get out to farmers because they have been hurting as a result of the president's trade war with china. it's fascinating this is happening. in just the last several minutes the president announcing that the department of agriculture will send another $19 billion to the farmers. one of the things we are going to have to watch for is how the relationship between the president and china could affect some of the trade talks that they have been having recently. the president has been it outing he feels he has this trade agreement with president xi of china and some of that will bring relief to the farmers hard hit in that trade battle. but one of the things ex-sprerts been looking at in terms of this trade agreement is whether an act of god, a pandemic like this one, could throw a monkey wrench into all of this and allow the chinese to back out of the agreement. that could mean many more months of hardship for the farmers. no doubt the president is trying to get money out to these farmers. that's a key part of his constituency. >> what are you learning about the new study that more people have been affected by coronavirus. does it mean rolling back social distancing guidelines too soon could be a huge, deadly mistake? >> this is an interesting study. this was out of santa clara, california, stanford researchers focusing on this. using antibody testing, the type of testing telling you if you have been exposed to the virus, they found that in fact 50 to 85 times more people have likely contracted that infection in that area versus what was previously confirmed. about 1,000 people were confirmed to have the infection and they think the number could be as high as 80,000 people looking at the antibody test. within that, wolf, you start to get a sense of how widespread this infection may have been. a lot of people out there, maybe a lot of people watching, who are saying i had some symptoms a month or few weeks ago, could that have been coronavirus. i don't know, maybe it was. at least in santa clara county, the numbers are 50 to 85 times higher. that is significant. much more widespread in that area than people realize. bad news if it is spreading like that, but the good news is if you have many more people infected, but were surprised to learn they were infected, they weren't that sick or had minimal symptoms, that brings down the fatality rate as well. how fatal is it? the number of people who have died over the number of people who were infected. if the number of people infected goes up, it brings down the ratio. it does give a sense of how contagious this is, wolf. it makes the point that the virus is out there, contagious. if we roll back things too quickly in the midst of a very contagious virus -- the virus is the one constant. it is out there. if we roll back things too early, we run the risk of many more people getting infected. i think there is probably no way to say for sure once we start to roll back things, i think at some point there will be people who become infected who otherwise would not become infected. i think that's a fact and something that is going to have to inform all of these policies, all of these proposals in terms of what we are willing to accept. we don't want people to unnecessary lit g unnecessarily get infected or to sadly, tragically die. >> it's significant the huge number of people who probably were infected, had no symptoms whatsoever. they could pass on the virus to other people without even knowing it. but those who are infected and totally asymptomatic, are they younger people, middle-aged people, elderly people? is age a factor on whether or not there are symptoms? >> this study didn't break it down by the demographic data. we do know that elderly people are more likely to develop symptoms and severe symptoms. but when it came to this overall very large population of asymptomatic people -- 1,000 confirmed cases roughly in this area of the country and now according to the study they think maybe 80,000 people had been infected. 80-fold difference. we don't know who these other 79,000 are, what their demographic is, but we do know, as you point out, and this is the challenge i think, many of those people may have had no symptoms or such minor symptoms they didn't think they needed to get checked out. those people -- that's good for them obviously. but as you point out, if they come in contact who are more vulnerable, more likely to get sick if they get infected, therein lies the problem, and we are all in this together. even if you say this is good news. so many people out there not getting sick despite getting coronavirus, keep in mind any of us could be carriers and you could spread it to somebody who could be devastated by it. therein lies the challenge. >> that's why wearing the mask and gloves are so important right now that everyone is recommending. >> dana, i want to get back to the president teas tweets earlier in the day, liberate michigan, liberate minnesota, liberate virginia. he also tweeted after governor comeau of new york, he said he should do less time complaining and more time doing. get out there and get the job done. what do you think sparked that angry tweet? >> he was watching tv. doing exactly what governor comeau said he was doing when he responded to that during the press conference. the message that clearly irritated the president was one we had talked about the entire time, days and weeks in the context of reopening the country. testing, testing, testing. but in the last 24 to 36 hours it has been hearing from the governors and you have had several of them on the program tonight saying we would love to execute it, but we need the federal government to help us. so the president had his back up all those weeks ago when the governor of new york was saying he needed ventilators and it was up to the federal government to do it. the president didn't like that and said many, many times. it is not up to me. it's up to the states. this has been a back and forth between the president and governors for sometime. the thing that is so confusing for people, and not just for people at home trying to consume this, but more importantly, for the people trying to make this happen in order to fix this problem is that in any given day, any given 24 hours, any given hour maybe, the president himself changes his tune. he says it's up to me. i have absolute power. and at the same time he says, no, the governors are going to do it. so which is it, mr. president? that is the question and that is what governor comeau was trying to get at that irritated him. let's be honest, andrew comeau is getting a lot of good press and that is the pinnacle for donald trump in any situation, good press. >> i am sure he is watching governor comeau's ratings. in the midst of all of this, thousands of americans are dying and others are going through horrendous recovery. the president didn't only start tweeting against governors, but against biden and obama and said they handled the swine flu and today started going after people in in losing their jobs talking about crying nancy pelosi and chuck schumer. he spends a lot of time attacking, not just governors. >> it is whatever he is feeling at the moment that has him send the tweet. that has been a hallmark of donald trump since he was a conditioned and now as a president. it's unfortunate he continues to do that at a time when people are looking for washington to come together. there have been bipartisanship over the past month or two, but they are at an impasse, the republicans and democrats and congress and senate as to who needs money the most. republicans are hearing it from their base, it's too much spending and not in the right direction when it comes to businesses. this is a fundamental historical difference between the two parties. it is coming up right now at a time when there is not a lot of time to have a philosophical fight. people need the money and need it now and that's probably where that came from. he probably got a read or watched somebody on television or read something about how angry the democrats are that there is this impasse about the next trunk of money. >> there is a lot of money going out, but a lot needed. jim, the president announced $19 billion funding is going to go out for farmers who are struggling. what else are you learning? >> this highlights a problem. the integrity of the nation's food supply. one of the things in terms of where this money goes. it goes to farmers to make sure that the nation's food supply stays in decent shape. you can't have farmers going under. they are not selling as much food to restaurants and other establishments so that money is needed to make sure there is food in the economy as the economy is reeling. >> a lot of the farmers are in the president's base and he wants to make sure they are not suffering too much. let's take a quick break and resume our special coverage right after this. 49...50! daddy, i found you! good job. now i'm gonna stay here and you go hide. watch your favorites from anywhere in the house with the xfinity stream app. free with your xfinity service. now any room can be a tv room. stream live tv, on demand 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most important state responsibilities to have in place before moving into a reopening plan. for phase one, the president's guidelines, you will recall, advised that states that have a downward trajectory in cases over a 14-day period of time and ensure that they have proper capacity in their health care facilities could move to phase one with the easing of some of the social distancing and the criteria that has been in place. for states that meet the criteria we outline protecting workers in critical injuries, protecting the most vulnerable, those who live and work in senior care facilities and also encourage states to have a plan for testing symptomatic individuals and ensuring testing to our most vulnerable populations. as the president has made clear, governors will decide the time and manner their states will reopen. we will look to support them in that effort. but as we assured the american people yesterday, the president's direction and administration will continue to work with governors across the country to ensure they have the supplies and testing resources to reopen safely and reopening responsibly. today we issued a let earter of of the supplies that have been sent to their states. we will be speaking with our nation's governors on monday and detailing that information at that time. as of april 16th, as the president reflected briefly, fema has coordinated millions of pieces of equipment through fema. including 63 million surgical masks, more than 10,000 ventilators and deployed more than 8,600 federal medical station beds. on the subject of testing resources. we are going to take time to speak about our administration's approach in partnership with states to expand testing. from the outset of this epidemic, president trump made efforts to reinvent testing in america. traditional testing takes place at cdc or state labs was designed for the kind of diagnostic testing that is routinely required. but the president early on in this effort brought together the leading commercial labs in america, forged a public and private partnership. some six weeks ago we had performed some 25,000 tests and at this day 3.7 million tests. we believe that labs and hospitals are now performing more than 120,000 tests per day, and we have actually stood up a team from walter reed under the direction of dr. deborah birx that is working around the clock to identify additional we believe that states can more than double the amount of testing happening today by simply activating all of the labs and dr. birx will detail some of the resources today and we'll be going over those very specifically with governors on monday. we have also been promoting the development of the new and innovative tests and the fda is working on an antibody test that can add 20 million to our supply even before the end of april. i want to ensure the american people we'll continue to work with your governors and with your state health officials to scale testing in the days ahead. but as you'll hear from all of our experts tonight, our best scientists and health experts assess that states today have enough tests to implement the criteria of phase one if they choose to do so. let me say that again. the -- given the guidance in the president's new guidelines for opening up america again, preparing the testing by going to phase one our best scientists and health experts assess that today we have a sufficient amount of testing to meet the requirements of phase one reopening if state governors should choose to do that. you'll hear more on that in a moment. at the president's direction we'll be presenting an outline of our testing in partnership with the states an it will continue to be state managed and federally supported. dr. fauci will give us a brief introduction to the overall approach to testing that is cop templated. dr. redfield will describe our plan to mobilize cdc officials to specifically monitor coronavirus incidents that occur in every state in the union. first, dr. deborah birx will describe not only our tests but also the current capability and the capability that we could expand to very readily. and admiral girard will summarize our president. we are going to continue to work every single day to make sure that our states and communities have the testing they need to reopen at the time and manner of their choosing and we'll make sure that our states have the resources and the supplies to reopen their states and reopen america. safe and responsible way. with that, dr. fauci. >> thank you very much, mr. vice president. so as the vice president said i'm going to give you a brief introduction to kind of answer the question that we have been asked a lot. in fact, we had a very productive teleconference with the senate democratic caucus and they asked a number of questions which were reasonable questions. questions that are on the mind of a lot of different people. and one of them was the question that was just opposed a moment ago -- are there enough tests to allow us to be able to go through this first phase in a way that is protective of the health and the safety of the american people? so i just want to spend a couple of minutes clarifying a few things and maybe providing some information on a broad 40,000 foot which you'll hear some of the more granular details from my colleagues who are following me. i think they asked me to give the 40,000 foot one because i'm not a testing person. i didn't run a testing lab. but i'm part of a team that is looking at this of how we can best make sure this happens in the right way. so first of all, let me say something that we said before and i apologize if i'm repeating things that you already know but i think in some respects it's important to do that so that people have clarity in what we're talking about. there are two general types of tests even though within each general type there are different subgroups. one of them is to actually test for the infection. is a person infected? the other and i'll get back to that in a second. the other is to test as we just mentioned if someone has been infected. usually someone has been infected who is recovered and as i'll get to in a moment that you can assume although we need to do some more work on that that that person is actually protected against subsequent exposure and infection with an identical organism. so what are some of the pluses and minuses of each because the pluses and minuses are really going to impact how we best use the test and how the test actually should be used. so let's take the test of whether or not you're infected. the test of whether or not you're infected is now a nucleic test and it's not easy to do. there are different groups within that. the good news about that is that it's a sensitive and specific test. so that if you're infected you know you're infected so that as i'll get to in a moment if you need to do something with that, get that person, put him in care and take care of them, get them out of circulation is important. if you get a test today like i did, today, it's negative, if you get a test today that does not mean that tomorrow or the next day or the next day or the next day as you get exposed perhaps from someone who may not even know they're infected that that means that i'm negative. which means if you take that to its extreme in order to be really sure you would almost have to test somebody either every day or every other week to be certain. that's an issue. now, the problem that i -- i talk about when i try and compare this to other situations with what testing means to you, i'm as -- i think as most people know have been involved in hiv/aids for 38 years. 39 years from the very first week of hiv. so that's what i do. if you get a test for hiv and you are negative, and you do not practice any risk behaviors you can be guaranteed that next month six months, one year from now you will be negative if you don't have a risk behavior. so there's a big difference there about what testing actually means. so the point i think you're getting is that although there is clearly a place for needing to test somebody for a given reason, a test means you're negative now. now, the other test is an antibody test. a test that tells you in fact that you have been infected. that's really good. you'll hear about that from my colleagues in a moment. because that will give you a broader view of two things. one, what the penetrants of the infection had been and number two you can make an assumption that we still need to prove that. i mean, we are assuming that if you're infected and you have antibody you're protected and that's a reasonable assumption based on the experience with other viruses but what we want to make sure we know and these are some of the challenges what is the titer that is protective? how long is the protection? is it one month, three months, is it six months, it's a year. so we need to be humble and modest that we don't know anything about it. but it really is an important test. the other thing is the difference between testing and monitoring out there what's out there. the difference between what we really need it for for phase one is to be able to identify, isolate, contact trace. very important part of when you're putting -- pulling back gradually and slowly on the mitigation and you have people who might be infected. you want to know they're infected. you want to put them in care. that is something that we need to do do, but there are other ways. i want to make sure not to underestimate the importance of testing. testing is a part, an important part of a multifaceted way that we are going to control and ultimately end this outbreak. so please don't anyone interpret it that i'm down on testing. but the emphasis that we have been hearing is essentially testing is everything and it isn't. it's the kinds of things that we have been doing. the mitigation strategies that are important parts of that. now, a couple of things before i hand it over to my colleagues. no doubt, no doubt, that early on we had a problem. i had publicly said that we had a problem early on. there was a problem that had to be corrected and it was corrected. it was a problem that was a technical problem from within, that was corrected. and it was an issue of embracing the way we have now and should have the private sector who clearly has the capability of making and providing tests at the level that we will need them for any of the things that i have just spoken about. so having said that, right now i totally understand and my colleagues understand that although we say there are "x" number of tests out there and you'll hear from admiral yes regard about that there are situation that are correctable and will be corrected and some of which have been corrected. i know, i get on the phone a lot with my colleagues because believe it or not, some long time ago, i was where they are, in the hospitals,

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trade center. there's never been an attack like this. and it should have never happened. >> sandra: meanwhile, more states are moving to reopen their economies. montana, michigan, mississippi, maryland, vermont and hawaii all planning to ease restrictions today. we will have much more on all of this coming up. but first, brand-new questions about the handling of the russia probe. the justice department releasing a long-awaited memo, one that reveals the scope of the mueller investigation was much broader than originally thought. good morning everyone, i'm sandra smith. >> ed: very pleasant good morning to you, i'm ed henry. that memo set on august 17. clear the trump campaign of collusion with russia. >> sandra: louisiana senator john kennedy, member of the judiciary committee. lots to get to this morning. first i will ask about this long-awaited release, unless rejected merck version of this memo. what have you been able to conclude about the scope of the mueller investigation from what was originally known? >> let me talk about the scope memo first and then i'd like to talk about the revelations regarding chairman schiff. i wasn't as surprised by the scope memo, i think based on what i observed and what the american people observed throughout the mueller investigation, it always appeared that they were just after a scout. when he testified before congress, i think it became clear to many that he was not in charge day-to-day of his investigation. his team that he put together. and they were after a scout. in terms of chairman schiff, it's just terrible. what they just revealed about him is third world country stuff. his investigators called 53 witnesses in secret, not a single one of them said that there was any collusion. in fact they all said we don't have any evidence of collusion, it was all done in secret. chairman schiff knew it and read the transcripts and he walked out in front of god and country on the american people and set i have direct evidence of collusion. now if you and i lied to congress, it's perjury. if congress lies to us, it's politics. it's third world country stuff. and the whole time, chairman schiff is lecturing all of us about the rule of law. and he is lying to the american people. you know, an ounce of hypocrisy is worth a pound of ambition, that's an old saying. i don't know who said it but she was a smart person. to me, what are we going to do about it? this is on top of the carter page staff, every thing else we have heard, general flynn stuff, and congress hasn't done anything. all we've done is strut around and talked and issued press releases. i hope -- we prove yesterday that we can hold safe hearings where we are apart and people can participate by zoom if they want to. we need to start hearings now, like yesterday. that's my opinion. >> sandra: let me ask you more about that in just a moment, but first just to give everyone an idea of some of the words that were revealed in that less redacted memo, this was the rod rosenstein memo dated auguss to the scope of the russia probe senator kennedy. any links or coordination between the russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of president donald trump and, number two, any matters that arose or may arise directly from that investigation. this was just some of what was revealed that showed that the scope was much broader than you or i or members of congress or the american public initially new. fox news is being told by a senior administration official, senator kennedy, that to your point, adam schiff is in "panic mode." you went back to his past statements that there was "direct evidence of collusion." i hear you calling on your own colleagues asking the question, what are you going to do about it? so what are you going to do about it? >> first of all we need to call all these people and put them under oath. on rosenstein's memo, the way i read that memo it basically said, go find me something, give me a scout. it became clear to me throughout the entire investigation that that is what mr. muller's team was doing. i don't know whether mr. miller was all that involved. but in terms of what adam did, congressman schiff, that's third world country stuff. to gather evidence from 53 witnesses, that they deposed in secret, under oath. they said nope, there's nothing there. and he goes out and says i had direct evidence. now that's not right. a disagreement is fine in a democracy but this isn't disagreement, this is persecution. these weren't investigations, they weren't prosecutions, they were persecutions. where is the fbi? where is the department of justice on this? i mean, bill barr has been the person that's been the most active but the hits just keep on coming here. and nothing gets done. look, apparently it's easier to divorce your spouse up here then to fire somebody. and nobody gets fired or anything. >> sandra: i know the american people have big questions about all of that. >> they should. >> sandra: how those held responsible will be accountable. i want to transition to what's happening in your state of louisiana. i know this was hard-hit during the pandemic. some of your details on your bill of state aid to giving the states flexibility on funding when it comes to the care act. i will throw the details up on the screen but how is your state doing and how are you responding to get the state at a local level out of this, senator kennedy? >> while things are better in louisiana. our governor has postponed of the opening of our economy and i think in many respects he forgot to get the people's compliance there. i'm not sure governor edwards can hold them until may 15th which is the next date he's going to consider. but in terms of your question about the money. look. there are all kinds of bills flying around here, it's like a labor day mattress sale. one group wants to get the states 500 billion and speaker pelosi wants to give them a trillion. we've already spent $3 trillion and we don't even have 5% of that. part of the carriers act, we gave a huge amount of money to state and local government already but we just put restrictions on what they could spend on. i have a bill that i think will pass if senator mcconnell will let it come to the floor. it says look. we will take off some of the restrictions of the money we have given to the state and local government so they can't use it to go fill up their pension plans but they can use it to fill gaps in their budget. the monies already appropriated, it's not new money. my state has gotten money for state and local government, higher education, public schools and hospitals, extra medicaid money, like two and a half or $3 billion. the only complaint i hear primarily from my state is, we are limited in what we can spend it on and i'm going to try to give them the flexibility before we start spending another million dollars like the speaker wants to. >> sandra: keep us posted on that senator kennedy as we watch your state and other states climb out of this and see all those folks get back to work. senator kennedy, we appreciate your time, thanks so much. >> thank you, sandra. >> ed: the republican led to admit michigan legislature now this suing democratic governor whitmer seeking to enter restrictions after she extended the state of emergency last week. mike tobin is live with details. >> good morning. they telegraphed this punch when they approved resolution giving the okay to sue democratic governor gretchen whitmer. the governor's state of emergency expired at the end of last month and she went to the legislature looking for an extension and republicans in michigan refuse that extension so she did it by executive order. they approved the resolution to sue and yesterday that suit went into the michigan court of claims. the house speaker and senate are arguing that she is using power she doesn't have. witmer has faced substantial protest through this process as opponent said she's been heavy-handed and arbitrary with restrictions and the restrictions treat population centers on detroit the same as rural parts of the state. >> what i can't do is negotiate like this is a political issue, it's a public health issue. i need to listen to the epidemiologist and the health experts in our state and across our country and that's precisely what i'm doing. >> witmer argues her restrictions are to protect the citizens of the state and she has the state, in support of the attorney general. the department chair called the lawsuit at dog and pony show which will waste the courts time and the taxpayers' dime. michigan has one of the worst outbreaks in the nation is over 4,000 deaths. >> ed: mike tobin, thank you. sandra? >> sandra: how three marines on an international flight took matters into their own hands when a disruptive passenger started threatening people on board. plus, a new poll on whether americans believe the sexual assault allegations against joe biden and what it could mean for his presidential campaign. we will hear from former speaker of the house newt gingrich on that, next. ♪ fifty years ago, humpback whales were nearly extinct. they rebounded because a decision was made to protect them. making the right decisions today for your long-term financial future can protect you and your family, and preserve your legacy. ask a financial advisor how retirement and life insurance solutions from pacific life can help you plan for your future. ♪ hey! that's mine. i'll buy you a pony. advanced hydration isn't just for kids. pedialyte helps you hydrate during recovery. advanced hydration isn't just for kids. when bugs move in we stress out and spray. well, we used to. new ortho home defense max indoor insect barrier kills and prevents bugs for up to a year without odors, stains or fuss. new ortho home defense max. bugs gone. stress gone. >> sandra: three fast-acting marines on the flight from tokyo to dallas subduing a passenger was screaming and making threatening comments. the passenger had reportedly barricaded himself in the airplanes bathroom and the marines restrained him and subdued him with flex ties. mobile the live report in the next hour on that. what a story. >> ed: it really is. you see that play out, there are obviously not a lot of people on planes these days and then an incident like this happen and then you wonder what's behind it but those marines acting quickly and doing what they do best. >> sandra: let's take a quick look at the markets this morning as we look for another positive open on wall street. the big board should reveal again 13 minutes from now and there is optimism as we see more states reopening this morning and seen people get back to wo work. you've got a market predicting -- there is the dow future, up 316 points this morning. you got large expectations that things are going well as states start to reopen. >> ed: and even as that happens, as we've been talking about, the number of people unemployed continues to increase in this country. we just got that, 3.2 million laid-off workers applying for unemployment claims this week but as you've been noting many times, a lot of that has been baked in and the markets are hoping that it's going to get better as the days go on. >> sandra: remarkable when you look at those tens of millions of people out of work in the month of april alone, using their jobs. what it's going to take to get all those americans back into their roles could take some time but you have the white house as you know predicting a sharp bounce back and return to the economy that we saw before this pandemic set in. the optimism is there in the stock market and we will be watching for that opening bell this morning. >> ed: absolutely. the economy is the front and center of the 2020 campaign. americans sharply divided over the allegations against joe biden. a new monmouth poll asking whether the sexual assault allegations are true. if found, it's close to a three way to tie of probably true, not true and, i don't know. the probably trues coming out slightly ahead. with us now is newt gingrich, also a fox news contributor. good morning mr. speaker. >> ed: at the least, the fact that folks are divided like this at least shows that that interview that joe biden did last week to try to turn the page on this didn't quite work out. >> i think he has a unique challenge because the left wing of the democratic party has made such an enormous effort on these kind of attacks. so you look at what they did last year due to the proposed supreme court justice, look what happened to senator franken in minnesota. they really have a deep emotional commitment and i think biden is not meeting that commitment. so what has happened is people first ignored it and then people on the left began to write about it and then as they listen to themselves they begin to get more upset about it though they've been writing more about it. and since he's caught in the trap -- i believe there was a blog written about the age of hysteria. we are faced with enormous challenges in terms of the chinese, the coronavirus, the economy, and we are trapped into this kind of endless repetitive news cycle and i think that is what biden is trapped in. he's got to figure out an answer that will satisfy his left, where this will just be a running sore until election and that's a very big challenge for him. >> ed: here's dan henning here today, prevented moral trumping against as a political weapon against their enemies and now they've exhausting exhausted it. political moralism is losing its punch. other than democrats downloading pro forma support against joe biden, hardly anyone cares one way or the other but his guilt or is innocence or about his accuser. in fact you are seeing some of the left saying, i kind of belief that tara reade is telling the truth but i don't care because i want him to be donald trump. >> i thought the letter by the reporter from politico that basically said i don't want an investigation, i want a coronation. please don't report anything about joe biden. i thought that was the most honest reporter on the left that i'd seen in a long time because he laid it all out. he's not going to cover anything negative about joe biden if he can avoid it and i thought that was refreshingly honest, give and if it's a little disturbing in terms of an honest media. i think this is a peculiar problem on the left because this is what i have staked their claim to and it's a little bit like florence in the middle ages, you start establishing a standard that's impossible and then you find yourself caught up in your own standard and then suddenly the crowd starts to turn on you. i think now the democrats have a very significant challenge ahead of them. biden has to find an answer and part of it is going to be that he has to release documents which is actually probably better for him even if the documents prove that tara reade is telling the truth. it's probably better for him to get it out in the open now rather than this drip drip drip attack for the entire rest of the spring and summer. >> ed: dr. bill bennett was on special report last night suggesting he thinks there's a 50/50 chance that biden won't even be the nominee. this following that op-ed from a couple of days ago suggesting democrats can turn to plan b. is it too late for them t to do that? >> it's impossible. biden ran in every primary and is one millions and millions of votes but the only person who could plausibly replace him as bernie sanders who ran in every primary and one millions and millions of votes. the idea that someone is not contested a comfort not attempted, not been out there and not one a single vote is somehow going to be imposed on the party by who? what magic secret group will do this? biden will be the democratic nominee because it's virtually impossible. and people would be so offended, i think it would be utterly impossible. >> ed: bernie sanders might be upset about that as well. we appreciate your insights, thanks for coming on. sandra? >> sandra: as we mentioned we are moments away from the opening bell on wall street and we get a brand-new look at the economic told of this pandemic has had as more than 3 million americans file for jobless claims last week alone. but the virus crippling the airline industry, why are so many planes still taking off with only a handful of passengers on board? maria bartiromo will join us next on all of that. one call to newday can save you $2000 a year. with newday's va streamline refi there's no income verification, no home appraisal, and no out of pocket costs. it's the quickest and easiest refi they've ever offered. call newday now. tb=g why accept it frompt an incompyour allergy pills?e else. flonase sensimist. nothing stronger. nothing gentler. nothing lasts longer. flonase sensimist. 24 hour non-drowsy allergy relief that liberty mutual customizes your insurance, i just love hitting the 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[squawks] only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ >> i saw my son come into the world and seeing him leave the world is not something i want to see come ever. >> ed: an emotional response from the mother of a young man who shot and killed by two white men while he was jogging in a georgia neighborhood. his parents are demanding arrests in the case after cell phone video appears to show the fatal shooting. jonathan serrie is live in atlanta this morning with more details. >> hi, there, eddie. this shooting took place on february 23rd and no arrests were made, and then at cellular phone video appeared on the internet and it went viral. the video appears to show a black man jogging down a brunswick, georgia road and he is confronted by two white men in a pickup truck parked on the road in front of him. you hear some yelling and three gunshots in the black man breaks free and appears to run away but only makes it several feet before collapsing in the road. >> i do believe that he was just out for his daily dog. i have believe that since day one. he's been doing that for years. >> armada aubry was apparently just going for a jog in this scenic georgia neighborhood but gregory mcmichael and his son travis said they thought he was a burglary suspect and were attempting a citizen's arrest. no charges were filed but the video has sparked peaceful protests demanding and impartial investigation. two local prosecutors have recused themselves from the case and the state has assigned an outside district attorney who plans to send the state to a grand jury deciding whether the mcmichael should face charges. >> this is not a racially divided issue. both races are saying the same thing, they are saying that justice was not given in this case and that we have to correct it and correct it immediately. >> the coronavirus outbreak could prevent the grand jury for meeting though for several weeks. edit, back to you. >> sandra: quick check on markets this morning. a minute and a half into trading this thursday morning and you are looking at the dow of 234 points continuing to climb back from the low was hit in the u.s. stock market at the worst points of this pandemic. new jobless claims have been released for the latest week and it does reveal another 3 million americans filed for unemployment just last week. that brings the seven week to more than 33 million americans. maria bartiromo is anchor of mornings with maria and the sunday morning futures. maria, that is horrific to learn that that many americans lost their jobs through this. we look at the stock market trying to climb back from these lows as it looks forward and out into the future as things start to reopen and people go back to work. >> and i think that's why the markets are trading up this morning because we are looking at investors trying to navigate what the economy looks like on the other side and trying to understand better what these openings, the slow openings across the country will look like. look, no doubt these numbers are very bad when you look at jobless unemployment benefits at 33 million people having filed for unemployment benefits in the last seven weeks. but we are in the middle of this and we are right now in the second quarter. we are right now talking about a contraction that could be as steep as 30% in the second quarter. we know that in the markets know that, investors know that and we are expecting a very bad unemployment report tomorrow where 20 million americans will have lost their jobs and are unemployed in the month of april. remember this pandemic started with the shutdown in the middle of march so april is going to capture the full extent of the impact of the shutdown on jobs and economy. expect an equally disturbing employment report tomorrow when we are expecting unemployment rate to be as high as 8%. so that's why they are looking ahead and say, yes. we know we are in the middle of it right now, we know these are bad numbers and we are expecting them. i want to point out one other thing because when you look within the market at various industries you have industries like biotech and technology doing well because those industries are actually benefiting from people being at home. one research i looked at this morning said that you have outsized job losses in things like the leaves leisure sector but when you look at sectors like technology, health care and even manufacturing and construction you see growth in those areas over the long-term. that's what investors are reacting to this morning. >> sandra: that's a great point. the nasdaq is on pace to turn back into positive territory with gains today. a fascinating to watch the markets react to this. meanwhile, we talked about warren buffett selling his stake in berkshire hathaway, majorly u.s. airlines. this morning's "wall street journal" is writing about these airlines flying basically empty, keeping these planes up in the air and many are carrying this essential health care workers to their destinations. some of them are looking for federal leads. passenger numbers are hitting as the lowest since the 1950s. >> they have to keep flying these planes even if there are six people on board because of these complicated schedules that are in place and have been in place. people are wondering why would you fly a plane if you only have six passengers on it? that i in and some of the planes they have to keep in the air because of promises that they've made. they are still losing money and this pandemic and that's why the government had to take stakes. you just point out that you don't really want to see the government become an investor or shareholder throughout industry in america because then you have demands, no stock buybacks and who knows what else. but when you have a government as an investor, the way you operate your business will be different and that's what the airlines are facing unfortunately right now. it will be spotty, and that's a major ticket for the airlines. i probably won't be happening until 2021. >> sandra: you have to ask yourself as we do, and the economies are reopening, will people feel safe getting back onto the airplanes? that's a big question and something we have to watch as we come out of this. the dow is up to 300 points this morning. >> ed: fox news alert, breaking news of the top of the hour, the justice department that releases the scope of the molar probe. john roberts is live in the white house with more details. >> this slightly redacted memo was showing that then deputy attorney general rod rosenstein had given mueller a much more wide-ranging playing field, and that -- and any matters that arose or may arise directly from that investigation. now we learned that rosenstein had given mueller much more specificity. and the redacted individual and we don' do not know who that pen was. he was also told to look into whether payments mena fort received for work with ukraine were a crime. he was told to look into whether papadopoulos acted as an agent of israel and whether michael flynn committed a crime by speaking to russian officials during the transition and lied to the fbi about this contact and failed to report on a security clearance form. they said that his appointment had no legal ramifications and that flynn had been cleared by the fbi before agents including peter strzok insisted on interviewing him. here's what grant said. >> the legal foundation for mueller's employment is crumbling. now we know the scope of the investigation was to look at carter, paige, lynn, papadopoulos and paul manafort as to whether or not they were working with the russians. >> dan crenshaw in the last hour. >> they had an idea, they had a conclusion and they had a crime that they wanted to prove and they gave themselves the power to try to prove it. this is a horrible, horrible precedent to set. it goes against every foundation we have in jurisprudence and law and due 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honor as many nurses as we can and we thought of you and we thought, how are you doing? >> i'm still at the icu and i'm still at the testing center. the numbers have decreased but we are still seeing -- yesterday i lost a 19-year-old patient to covid-19 and that struck a chord with all of us. every death is significant but when you have, just a child, just a baby, 19 years old, it hits home. >> ed: what's happened in general since we heard so much, let someone 19 years old is likely to be in a better position to deal with this? >> that's what we've heard. but what we are seeing is that the patients are developing cloths and even though we put them on anticoagulation therapy they throw clots and sometimes they stroke out or get pulmonary emboli which can be fatal. >> ed: we've heard about that and it's very scary. there something that struck me in the sound bite that we played from april where you said sometimes our best is not good enough. and you can't save the patient. i mean, that happens all the time even before this pandemic but it seems like it's been particularly acute. in that sense we last spoke last month there was a high-profile case and i'm sure there have been others but here in new york city we had a nurse that committed suicide because she felt like a best wasn't good enough and she felt overwhelmed. talk about your mental health and your colleagues and how you've been doing. >> i think all of us are going through some type of post-traumatic stress. you know, the insomnia, the weight loss, being irritable, i think all of us are dealing with things differently. it is our coping mechanisms that get us through. so if we have good support systems like our families and friends and coworkers to lean on, even counseling. my best friend the counselor, she's a psychotherapist so i kind of bounce things off of her and use her as a sounding board. >> ed: that's certainly good. in the last 30 seconds we have, i mentioned at the top that it's nurses week and we want to say thank you to you and all of your colleagues. how do you think we express our gratitude to you in so many people in the front lines? >> i think a simple thank you is enough. i think nurses and just health care professionals and front-line workers, we were pushed to the forefront, where as we kind of played the background a lot and people didn't really understand the significance of us. but i think a simple thank you or smile, sometimes that brightens my day, that helps me. or an error hug. >> ed: yes, it's going to have to be in error hug for a while. we are sending you that error hug and certainly what you and so many others are doing is significant. we appreciate your time, thank you. >> thank you so much, god bless you. >> sandra: sending air hugs her way. meanwhile, businesses opening up across the country. how florida governor ron desantis is planning to unite the cities with one plan. >> we want to be safe about it and be smart and it will be a step-by-step process, 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and presocial distancing of the owners of the place down. outside of south-central florida for most of the state phase one of reopening began monday and that includes indoor dining at open retail at 25% capacity. most state parks and beaches are open for sun, sand and surf and all of that appears to be going well after three days with none or few problems. in tab by the city has begun closing substrates and allowing restaurants to use them and parking lots for more tables to try to make up for all the lost revenue, all properly spaced apart. it's called the lift up economic recovery plan and every server and customer gets their temperature checked upon arriv arrival. >> the energy is palpable, people wanted to get out and rebuilt a sense of normalcy in their life. >> the governor wednesday said he's pleased with how phase one is going statewide in hopes to bring the same freedom to miami-dade, broward and palm beach county soon. those three counties are not included in phase one and the people in those counties are itching to get to. so the county mayor says overall he is pretty pleased despite what happened here over the weekend but he does have one major concern this weekend, it's mother's day weekend and he's worried that there will be perhaps too large of gatherings and further spread of the virus. sandra? >> sandra: really interesting. phil keating for us. ed, it will be something states will have to assess and handle and it will be quite a quick process. >> ed: we are still seeing it play out. in idaho the state trooper was surprised when he pulled the vehicle over after the vehicle was weaving between lanes. he found a 5-year-old behind the wheel. >> it was pretty clear when the window came down that it was a young, very underaged driver. he wanted to buy a lamborghini when he got there and he showed his wallet with $3. >> ed: they do cost a little more. a lamborghini owner drove to meet adrian and it gave him a ride in a luxury sports car. pretty funny 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investigation because i didn't know. now i know why mueller didn't find anything, there was nothing there to find. i'm telling you man, this is j. edgar hoover stuff. we are going to have hearings. >> sandra: griff jenkins is live in washington with more on all of that. >> a lot to unpack here. first we started with that memo showing then acting attorney general rosenstein authorizing special counsel mueller to go well beyond the initial scope of the russia probe which was to investigate links or coordination between the russian government and individuals for the russian campaign into any matter that arose from that investigation. we now see rosenstein also authorizing a deep dive into criminal allegations against carter page, paul manafort, george papadopoulos, michael flynn and an unidentified and redacted individual for crimes unrelated to russian interference which included acting as an unregistered agent as of a foreign government, failing to report contacts from a foreign government and making false statements to the fbi. republican congressman dan crenshaw had this reaction earlier. >> is the way to summarize what was actually going on. it's an investigation in search of a crime and the more we find out about this entire probe, the entire narrative that was spun for years tricking the american people into thinking a president was some russian puppet. >> this has fox news was learning we may soon see transcripts conducted by the house intelligence committee with 53 individuals in 2017 and 18 cleared for release that showed top officials affirming there was no evidence of collusion between russia and the trump campaign. a senior administration official telling fox news that chairman adam schiff is in "panic mode" meanwhile the ranking number of that committee issues the statement to fox news saying adam schiff himself voted to release these transcripts and claims he wants to mount. there is no reason he can't publish them all today except that he really doesn't want the american people to see how little evidence there was for the russian collusion hoax. he advocated and continues to advocate. now fox news 12, it is possible that we could see some of the 6,000 pages of interviews this week possibly as early as today and that will show, sandra and eda, interviews with steve bannon who he picked and some others. >> sandra: we will await data. griff jenkins, thank you. >> your actions were selfish, putting your own interest ahead of the community but disrespecting the orders of the state, the orders of the county. >> i have to disagree with you sir when you say that i'm selfish because feeding my kids is not selfish. >> ed: a dallas judge facing heavy fire for jailing and finding a hair salon order who defied lockdown orders and open up her business so she and her staff could afford to put food on the table. texas attorney general ken paxton quickly jumped into this battle. i heard that over overnight? he's volunteering to pay some of the legal fees, the judge held her in contempt and has her sitting in jail and, both the lieutenant governor and me, and sadly she still sits in jail. >> ed: there's a gofundme now and have put in half a million dollars for her defense. it seems like there's frustration of how they are being administered. >> this was not pushed from the city, this was the judge that made the decision to put her in jail. this woman is in jail where they are thought to release convicted felons in this case she's in jail for doing her job. >> even in the order for contempt that he says if he will and apologize, we could fix this. the idea that dan patrick or anybody could take the place is not going to be sufficient. they want her to bend the knee and nothing else will suffice. >> ed: how do you react to the idea that she's got to give in here somehow? >> it seems like the judge, it's become very personal. and this woman is trying to keep her business going. >> the judge who you just mentioned eric moy has written a letter i'm sure as you are aware, to you, talking about the texas code of judicial conduct. he says, the judge shall not initiate, permit or allow x partake communications or other indications made to the judge outside of the presence of the parties in this context to urge a judge toward a particular substance of outcome in this matter is in a most inappropriate and unwelcome. please d do not indicate with te court in this matter further. your response? >> first of all this is not x partake communications, we are not a party to the lawsuit. we sent them a letter just like anyone else would send them a letter and we've copied the other parties on it to make sure there is no argument that it could be some type of x partake communication. what might be more of concern, i don't know if you've seen the social post or the judge made some comment about some woman who is protesting and she got corona and he was commenting that that was just karma or something like that. >> ed: your thoughts when the judge says something like that? because there's a balance of people in this country are trying to strike right now and the fact that someone would be cheering on a protester allegedly getting covid-19, there's frustration in this country. there are folks who want to see the economy get going again. >> there's clearly a balance here and i'm not saying she shouldn't be held accountable for her actions but what i'm saying is we have overreacted. this is not the way -- she's trying to keep her business alive and difficult time so i'm glad we are moving towards an open economy in texas. i would encourage other states to do the same thing. >> ed: final question. mother's day is coming up, do you think this mother will be out of jail or not? >> i'm optimistic, i think she will be out of jail. people are seeing how ludicrous and insane this is but i believe that the pressure will mount on this judge to release her. >> ed: all right, ken paxton, we appreciate your time. >> sandra: at the venezuelan now releasing brand-new video of an american captured in the country. luke denman is one of two veterans allegedly involved in a botched raid to ousted president nicolas maduro. meanwhile the trump administration is saying that darrell is spreading this misinformation. >> the state farm and is trying to figure out what happened as the madero regime uses capitalism as propaganda. luke denman, that former green beret was captured, it says. one of two u.s. special forces soldiers. he was arrested as part of a failed rate over the weekend. in the video and speaking while in custody of venezuelan forces here, denman explains how he led the group to venezuela from the neighboring columbia where they had trained. denman's parents told fox news they hadn't heard from him for a couple of weeks and had no idea what he was doing in venezuela. nicolas madurnicolas madero swet "shared with the world that at confesses with clarity a plan against our beloved venezuela. now here secretary of state mike pompeo said the united states government had no direct knowledge or involvement in this operation. >> if we would have been involved, it would have gone differently. as for who bankrolled it, we are not prepared to share any more information about what we know took place. we will unpack that at an appropriate time. >> the secretary says the u.s. government will use every tool it has available to try to get the captured americans back to the united states. meanwhile u.s. officials say they are investigating a security contractor who is a self-proclaimed architect of all of this. sandra, back to you. >> sandra: rich edson, back to thank you. >> ed: an evacuation is underway in the florida panhandle as crews battle a wildfire for the fourth straight day. families forced from their homes facing grave new danger. details on that come next. plus joe biden blasting the education secretary betsy devos after she unveiled new rules giving you protection to those accused of sexual assault on campus. the former white house press secretary ari fleischer will weigh in on that, next. >> one student that experiences sexual violence or misconduct on campus is one too many. ♪ fifty years ago, humpback whales were nearly extinct. they rebounded because a decision was made to protect them. making the right decisions today for your long-term financial future can protect you and your family, and preserve your legacy. ask a financial advisor how retirement and life insurance solutions from pacific life can help you plan for your future. >> ed: it wildfire is florida homes in the very dry panhandle. it burned for a third day wednesday and an evacuation order turn mandatory suddenly. the flames also forced to shut down the stretch of i10, the second wildfire at nearby walton county forced hundreds more to evacuate their homes. florida is getting less than half of its average. >> ed: education secretary betsy devos meanwhile issuing a new rule strengthening protections for college students that have been accused of sexual assaults. the administration is saying that it is designed to ensure due process. but presumptive democratic nominee joe biden disagrees saying it's designed to shame survivors. good morning to you. first, your reaction to all of this? >> good morning. oh, my goodness, i mean the height of hypocrisy. imagine you have two children. what you got here is joe, running for office did something allegedly to a girl and the other child is on college campus during the previous administration. that child is already judged to be guilty because the accusation is made and that's basically how it works. joe biden, the one running for office, those rules should apply to everyone else but not me because i'm running for office. donald trump campaign was quick to point out the hypocrisy. betsy devos explains this new role in her statement. this new regulation requires schools to act in meaningful ways and without sacrificing important safeguards to ensure a fair and transparent process. joe biden reacted in a statement to come to that ruling saying that trumps education department led by her is trying to shame and silence survivors and take away the survivors. it will be put to a quick end in 2021 because as president, i will be right where i always have been it throughout my career. on the side of survivors who deserve to have their voices heard and their claims taken seriously, and investigated and the rights upheld. it's no surprise that opened the door to criticism to th the trup campaign. >> joe biden is saying these rules about presumed guilt should apply to everyone in society particularly on a college campus except for me because i'm joe biden and i'm running for president and the democrats go along with it. the simple fact sandra when you step back, the way it's handled against joe biden is a way it always should have been and should be handled, that when someone comes out and makes the allegation, the allocation should be taken seriously. there is a due process for the person being accused and that's what betsy devos is now bringing to college campuses. that is right and that is proper. what is improper is to be hypocritical about it. so if any good comes out of this whole thing, maybe society will take a breath when the next accusation is made against anyone and adjudicated it. let there be fairness, let there be to process. let the accused confront the accuser. let a process that we are all used to in public life called evidence come out and weigh in the word of the accuser against the accused. that's the only fair way to have any adjudicative process in america. so good for betsy devos for doing this. joe biden's hypocrisy in the media hype accuracy just prove how right betsy devos is. >> sandra: the way she explained herself with this new rule is that they went out and sought to narrow the definition of sexual harassment, requiring the schools to produce evidence and allow for cross examination of students who say they were assaulted. i want to play really quick betsy devos responding to this with martha. >> we have got to do better. we undertook this process to ensure that we addressed all of these issues and that we end up with a rule that all students can rely on, one that is going to respect those who are survivors and give them voice and power and say in what happens. and one that respects the accused as well and doesn't presume guilt at the start. >> sandra: she went on to say that she believes too many students have lost access to their investigation, education because of inadequate response from the schools when these accusations are made. but bottom line it brings up a bigger question of what is next for joe biden and what we hear from him is his story continues. final thoughts? >> what's next for joe biden is to continue to get away with things because of the immediate double standards. i've never seen someone make an accusation with some level of credibility that has contemporaneous corroboration, and yet abc, nbc, msnbc, cnn, what do an interview with the women making an accusation. there is a cover-up and it's not a cover-up by design, it's a cover-up by nature. it's just the nature of these democrats and the media to say it so important to beat donald trump that we will let joe biden slide. we will not apply the standards we apply to everyone else, to joe biden. where are all watching it unfold right before us. it's a shame that anyone thought the media could possibly be unbiased. >> and provide an honest answer to american. ari fleischer, always good to catch up with you, thanks so much. >> thank you. >> ed: u.s. marines jumping into action at 40,000 feet subduing a hostile erotic passenger on a long flight from tokyo. the live report of what happened to come in next. plus a congressional task force taking a deep dive into china demanding answers on the origin of this pandemic and a national strategy strategy dealing with 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control of a disruptive passenger on a flight from tokyo to dallas. the passenger was reportedly screaming and making threatening comments. jonathan is alive with more details. >> the three marines boarded the plane in tokyo monday expecting like most of the passengers to watch a couple of movies and get some sleep on the long flight to dallas. it didn't quite work out like that for captain daniel coulter, sergeant john dietrich and private first class alexander mine heart, all of whom were heading home after being deployed in okinawa, japan. sergeant dietrich was the first to notice something strange going on as he watched a movie. he said "i started to hear screaming coming from the restroom on board and when i took off my headphones i heard a man sounding very distraught and screaming from the bathroom. and when a flight attendant unlocked the door the three men grabbed the passenger and subdued him and restrained him with flex ties. mine heart, on the right of the photo said "i knew he had to use step in when he became a danger to himself. i didn't think twice about helping restrain him through the rest of the flight. and captain colt added "we are well trained and it paid off today, we just assessed the situation and acted. we didn't take time to talk it over, we just got ready and did what we needed to help." the plane was diverted to los angeles where the passenger was taken to a nearby hospital for a mental evaluation. an airport police spokesperson said" great job done by those marines" semper fi, indeed. >> sandra: what a story. jonathan hunt, thank you. >> we have learned more about covid and one thing is clear, china's cover-up led directly to this crisis. the stakes are too high to sit idly by which is why today i'm announcing task force. there was one moment in time they said yes, a few months ago they said no. i would say there is no more important time now to join with this together. >> ed: house republicans right now announcing the formation of a brand-new china task force which is focusing on all aspects of america's relationship with the communist nation which is over in the house but it's a major issue that the senate majority whip is dealing with. senate majority leader john dennis joins us. as leader mccarthy says, they worked for about a year on trying to build this task force. then right before that pandemic fired up, they pulled out. >> it is a big issue an and i tk republicans in the house are certainly right to try to press the leadership over here to try to put together a task force to examine obviously what happened and what led up to this and what steps we ought to take in response to it. i think it's unfortunate the democrats don't want to participate credibly over there right now, everything tends to be highly political and the democrat leadership in the house is always looking for opportunities to poke the president in the eye. i suspect that they see working with republicans on this and that's something that undermines that objective. >> ed: certainly the public wants to see some action and your colleague in the senate, rick scott from florida, add this to say about corona accountability. we have failed to call out china for who they are comical out these international organizations for who they are. you see democrats that are trying to defend the world health organization and it's the craziest thing in the world. this is a group that so there was no local transmission when they knew there was. so we keep hearing this, let's call china out. maybe now they are finally being called out but what comes next? so you can try to hold them accountable? >> i think we have a lot of ways, a lot of levers that we can pull and one obviously is funding, and as you pointed out, it is raising. i think accountability there, but i think further, more than that, accountability from china. obviously they lied and understated and underreported what was going on. there is no transparency in that company and we need to remember that when dealing with them. i think one thing the international community could do is ban the walleye equipment from their 5g networks. we have companies in europe the u.k. and germans who are entertaining the idea of having that equipment embedded in their network and i think that gives the chinese an opportunity to surveilled. there are other ways that i think they could step up and i know the president and leadership appear in congress is prepared to do that. at least on the republican side, hopefully the democrats will join in. >> ed: at the president has also held out the possibility of more in china. they are up strongly today and i know some of the farmers in your state of south dakota may not like it as well. not some of the trade battles we've seen but on the positive side it broke this morning that may be the u.s. and chinese reporters may be meeting next week to hammer out. and we are talking about all that, the president is talking about more tariffs when at the same time you are trying to negotiate. >> i think you can take a strong stance with what happened to the coronavirus. it started there and originated there, and now they covered it up and it's a global pandemic. they need to be held accountable by the international community, but when it comes to trade they are a big economic market and obviously they need the united states. and they have trading relationships, and that's continual. >> that's 3 million more americans filing for unemployment claims. the leader, you are part of the republican leadership obviously but leader mcconnell says there should be a pause there before there's a fourth stimulus bill. what's the latest thinking on that? we are seeing what the effect is out there. and operating, hopefully we will get the worst behind us. when that happens you see those numbers start to go down. and people are filing claims, but, you want to make sure that any dollars being spent going forward, neck maximizing the impact out 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contraceptive mandate is back in the spotlight. the supreme court hearing arguments in that two cases, one involving little sisters of the poor. both cases can test whether the trump administration could greatly expand the employers exempt from providing insurance that covers birth control. >> the possession of the catholic church on contraception under the pro-life issues is pretty clear. for us this has been a battle that goes to the very soul of our ministry and our face. faith. >> sandra: joining us now is judge napolitano. first off just set this up for us. what is the argument that they are making with the little sisters of the poor and what is the issue before the supreme court? >> good morning sondra, always a pleasure to be with you. the affordable care act which the supreme court upheld in 2012 requires every employer of 50 or more persons to offer health care insurance the trump administration using regulatory authority available to it elsewhere, and they have provided health care subjects when religion taught them to oppose it. there are challenges, the trump administration will do the right thing by accommodating the free exercise of religion of the little sisters of the poor and some and only situated, usually but not exclusively, catholic organizations. should they be compelled to comply with the statute. the roman catholic chief justice who "upheld" the constitution in 2012 hanging in the balance. >> sandra: so that's what you are able to conclude from the oral arguments yesterday. we have some big question over companies reopening of liability on the parts of companies as they reopen. we were talking to senator tim scott yesterday who suggested that there needs to be some sort of liability shield for companies as we go through this. greater confidence is one thing, but consumers to have the same level of competence will be another thing. they have to resolve the issue of liability. if someone comes into your business and says they got the coronavirus there, that's a major issue. one of the things we have as the top priority to help build confidence is solving the issue of reliability for business owners and providing more resources and testing for consumers. >> sandra: judge, you seem to make a really big point about that and protect our businesses from these lawsuits. >> so there is two types of liability issues here. one is, those who lost money and compensation because businesses were closed. businesses were closed because the government required them to close. and somebody else is harmed by that compliance, the business enjoys the same immunity that the government does. so if you shut your shop because the government made you shut your sop and your employees lost money because of it, the employees are unlikely to sue you. to successfully sue you. the second type of liability, the one senator scott is talking about is what happens if you open up and somebody comes in and they get harmed? now we have a federalism issue. can the congress tell state courts that they cannot hear claims of liability when someone goes into a public accommodation and contracts coronavirus? congress was reticent to do th this. state rights have been reluctant to interfere with state courts and this has only happened once before in our history when congress granted immunity to the manufacturers of guns so they could not be sued when the guns were misused. and they rejected it and made its way to the supreme court. i think that this liability shield business is very dangerous, and the discussion of whose fault they were harmed by should be heard by politicians but i don't think we've heard the last of it. >> sandra: very interesting. judge napolitano, always good to talk to you. >> ed: the supreme court just tossed out convictions tied to the infamous new jersey bridge gates scandal. the court is saying in any unanimous decision that the government had overreach and prosecuting bridget kelly and bill baroni for their roles in creating a massive traffic jam to punish a new jersey mayor refused to endorse the election of then governor chris christie. they were convicted of fraud and conspiracy back in 2013. >> sandra: subjective elements in the sports world. up next, what commissioner rob manfred and major league's proposal is to the players association. what that will be for starting up the 2020 season. plus, the national football league planning to unveil its 2020 schedule tonight. sportscaster and fox news contributor jim gray will break it all down for us and he joins next. down for us and he joins mple. with their va streamline refi, there's no income verification or home appraisal. and this refi costs you absolutely nothing out of pocket. it's the quickest and easiest refi newday has ever offered. one call can save you $2000. confident financial plans, calming financial plans, complete financial plans. they're all possible with a cfp® professional. find yours at letsmakeaplan.org. >> ed: it's game on for the nfl. so what will the season look like? and what did we care about the nfl schedule. is that true? >> i guess we are going to find out tonight, and everybody is pretty excited. the main thing that's good about this is they are trying to be on schedule. they want to start september 10th, it's a thursday night and they want to try to keep to that date. if they have some contingencies in that schedule, and, that's what i'm being told. if you do have to lose games and those games that don't count as much as the season goes on in terms of tiebreakers and making the playoffs, those will be diminished and those could go away if they have to. they could also play into march. they could start the season, and might have to figure out the cold weather cities. so we don't have people playing in chicago and green bay in january and february. >> and what we are laying out to is the contingency that, god forbid the virus comes back in the fall, they might lose some games and might be some shifting in the fall if need be after the season starts. >> right. nobody knows how this virus is going to act. dr. fauci, everyone changes these models and it's an evolving thing. if they don't have fans in the stands for they don't have the ability to play with fans because of the virus, and they haven't even crossed that bridge yet. the salary cap is something like $240 million, they could pay the players but then that mechanism would kick in next year and it would be half. so then it you have $120 million being distributed because that's what they do, they split the revenue 50/50. if you split the revenue this year it comes out of the cap next year. so the players have to take some sort of a haircut and make an arrangement either this you are next year so i think there's a long way to go before they have any semblance of really knowing what the season is going to look like. >> quickly on mlb insider, jeff paxson has said they will have active rosters, up to 30 players each game, more than usuall usul obviously to prepare for health. i spoke to a senior person in baseball a short time ago and said this plan to get it going around july 1st it's getting closer and closer to reality. >> that may be the hope and that may be the wish. we may need to get teams to have some spring training time and where will that take place? it's expensive to get back to florida and arizona. if baseball doesn't play, this is a disaster not only for the players because they will get the minimum salary but it will be a disaster for the owners, losing hundreds and millions and billions of dollars. if there are no fans in the stands then, once again this will be a major negotiation with the players and this is not a simple course because these are very complicated deals. they take years to work out these and now you're talking just a few short weeks or months. it's a long, long road. everybody needs to be optimistic. >> we are all waiting. >> sandra: fox news alert, we have a 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possibly caused by the coronavirus. unfortunately doctors are saying that it does remain uncommon at this point. >> the president is now saying the task force will continue indefinitely and will focus on vaccines, treatment and safely restarting the economy. and we will have a whole lot more on the coronavirus pandemic throughout this hour but first, a a new twist in the drama surrounding sexual assault allegations against joe biden. welcome back to a brand-new hour of "america's newsroom." i'm ed henry. good morning sandra. >> sandra: i'm sandra smith. while a new poll finds voters split on who or what to believe when it comes to allegations, and that new peace headline, a new liberal refrain. >> ed: it joining us now is dana perino. the "me, too" movement is collapsing under the weight of the democracy of the democrats. several leaders have recently said that the "me, too" standard was way too high and maybe not fair. so basically that has collapsed. for better or for worse, that's the truth. i think when it comes to this, we are going to see many democrats saying, you know what? i want donald trump out of office and i don't care what happened with biden, if it did or didn't happen, i'm going to vote for him anyway. one thing to watch though is if more documents come out or more allegations come out and you have a candidate who is not that adept at navigating these tricky political waters, that could hurt them especially since he's sitting down there in the basement. >> if there are more documents that come out that seem to substantiate tara reade's allegations, if they were to emerge, it may seem like it may not matter on the left. is an op-ed from linda hirschm hirschman. i believe tara reade voted for joe biden anyway. the importance of owning an ugly moral choice. your thoughts? >> this is the willingness to have given that kind of credit, and even to donald trump. i think -- i had a field going -- not a field but a discussion going with a mutual friend of ours who thinks this will actually dog bite into the political season. i'm of different mind, i think the democrats have decided that they will be in loc lockstep bed biden. >> to your point, this is from someone in the media that was retired and we've all heard of it, and he writes this letter to the editor of "the new york times." i don't want an investigation. would he make a great president, would he make a better president than the president asked pent? absolutely. and again, points for honesty. he goes on to say my principles don't really matter, i'm going to make a choice here for biden over trump. he wants the coronation of joe biden which is even a more repugnant ideal. in this country we have two candidates who will have to battle it out and there will be an election and people get to decide. if biden falls short, i don't necessarily think it will be because of tara reade, i don't take it will be because of allegations or misconduct, allegations of rate or whatever else could come out of the woodwork. i'm not saying that they will, i just don't think it will matter as much as, who has a plan to help this country get back on track after this coronavirus emergency is behind us. the writers pulled this week said 53% of americans said they believe donald trump is better than biden on that very important issue. >> ed: and to wrap all that up, you are known as a very good communicator and someone who can figure those kinds of situations out. when you saw david axelrod wrote that op-ed a few months ago he said to joe biden, find a way out of the basement, find a way to have viral moments and a pure digital game because president trump has a huge advantage on social media. what were your thoughts about how to react on that? >> i have great respect for both david axelrod and david cloth. but i did think they should have given that advice and private because basically what they did was they wrote an op-ed in "the new york times" that said everything about the joe biden campaign is bad. it's dismal. it's a disaster and you should change absolutely everything because trump is going to bust you on the most important tactic which is digital. there is no way that joe biden can match what brad parscale's operation has been able to do over several years in just six months. i thought that it sort of was like making sure that everybody knew that they would have done it very differently and they would have been able to win, but i also have to say this. the candidate that they help to bring to the oval office to be commander in chief was barack obama. he was a unique individual. joe biden is not barack obama and is not that unusual. we've known him for decades. i don't think a digital strategy is a problem, i think a message is the problem. >> ed: and that's why you have morty tolson the retired journalist saying, i don't think he's even going to be a great president. >> sandra: fox news alert, a new action on capitol hill as the senate works to override the president's veto on the iran war powers resolution with the boat set for less than two and a half hours from now and it will be an uphill battle. congressional correspondent chad pergram is now live on capitol hill with all of that. good morning. >> good morning sandra. there have been 2500 vetoes in u.s. history but only 111 successful veto overrides. this is the iran war powers, and without congressional approval. they need to get 67, two-thirds to successfully override the president and that likely won't happen today. the vote back in early february was 55-45 which means that eight republicans joined all 47 democrats. one of them was republican mike lee of utah. over the course of many decades, we have seen congress essentially forfeiting its authority to declare war and waiting for presidents to act. we believe it's more appropriate when we are going to put u.s. lives on the line. >> the resolution would have required congress to approve any and the house synced up with the center in march. mitch mcconnell supports the veto. >> we must maintain the vision of deterrence, >> 12 republicans to get to 67 and they probably won't get that including some vulnerable republicans from swing states like joni ernst from iowa. and article one and section 8 says it's up to congress to declare war and article two says the president of the united states, he's the commander in chief. sandra, back to you. >> sandra: chad pergram on capitol hill. >> ed: a fox news alert, the white house confirming that a worker at the presidential mansion has tested positive for covid-19. the employee reportedly is a valet to president trump. we are told that employee began showing symptoms of the coronavirus yesterday. in a statement the white house tells us the president and vice president have both been tested again and tested negative for the virus and remain in great health. we will watch that. ♪ >> sandra: we will continue to monitor that. meanwhile growing fears over food shortages. sparking warnings about a global hunger pandemic. gillian turner's life in washington, d.c., for the latest details. jillian, good morning. >> good morning sandra, you are hearing a lot about that u.s. meat supply shortage here this week but it turns out americans actually have it really good compared to a lot of other countries around the world. international officials and national officials not ringing alarm bells that hundreds of millions of people worldwide are facing the imminent threat of acute hunger and even starvation and famine due to the coronavirus outbreak. the world food program says much of the world is on the brink of what they are calling a global hunger panic. take a listen. >> in my conversation with world leaders over the past many months, before the coronavirus even became an issue, i was saying that 2020 would be stationed as the worst team in a terry crisis since world war ii. >> most of the countries hit hardest were in sub-saharan. most children are at risk for starvation, 1.6 billion young people are at schools around the world and we know at least 370 million of them are missing out on school meals. before coronavirus hit, 2019 was already a setting low year with 135 million people facing acute malnutrition. officials say this confluence of events, and those massive food shortages is a perfect storm. and that's shows that 300,000 people will starve to death every single day over a three month period there is a sense of urgency to come up with new ways to get food aid and humanitarian assistance out to countries and populations including children who are the most vulnerable right now. sandra? >> all right, gillian turner with more on that. >> ed: a new legal fight against michigan state at home order which has already sparked a major protest. and how the governor is stepping in this morning. and why former nfl quarterback brett favre wasn't order to repay more than a million bucks in federal grant, get grant money. plus the president calling 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by covid-19 and especially different segments of the agate economy. they are being devastated. i called them food heroes who were out every single day trying to make sure that americans stay fed. and we look at u.s. feedlots where they fattened cattle and then they go on to packing plants. then you had that good american and good nebraska beef that's in the grocery stores. right now we are seeing great prices and it might cycle up or down but when you have such discrepancy in prices from the family farm are on his ranch to produce that critter that's going to end up being a good steak, it needs to be looked into. they've made a comment to support looking into it and, we will look into this. we want to make sure we have a supply chain that works well for all participants within that chain and we want to make sure that we have good protein on the shelf in grocery stores. >> sandra: this affects the consumer which you are trying to look out for. the attorney general is sending a letter to attorney general bill barr, urging investigation into the matter. they are talking about sizable profit margins for the meat-packers, and the meat on the shelf continues to go up. what do we face as a country as far as the availability of meat on ourselves? >> i want people to remember that the supply chain is working well right now and to not do the panic buying. we don't want to see beef and pork turn into the toilet paper fiasco that happens. so just buy what you need, it's going to be there and we are going to make sure that we continue to push these investigations. there shouldn't be any manipulation of the markets. there should not be any price gouging going on. and especially during the pandemic. i'm pleased that the attorneys generals are working on this. i have pushed forward and asked senator mike lee to have a hearing in his subcommittee, which deals with antitrust and so we can have some transparen transparency. about what is truly happening here. >> sandra: the president's words, will take a look into it because it shouldn't be happening that way. we talked about farmers and ranchers getting hurt but the meat-packing plants are doing fine in the middle of all this. we will continue to follow this story, senator. keep us posted and thanks so much. >> ed: in the meantime a brand-new branch of the u.s. military is now recruiting. how you can sign up for the space for us. plus president trump predicting a quick recovery for the u.s. and mark cuban joins us to talk about the path forward for our nation, that is next. >> people need incomes, the economy has to work and the state need revenue. so it's not a question of, do we reopen, it's a question of how we reopen. now, simparica trio simplifies protection. ticks and fleas? see ya! heartworm disease? no way! simparica trio is the first chewable that delivers all this protection. and simparica trio is demonstrated safe for puppies. it's simple: go with simparica trio. this drug class has been associated with 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gidley saying that the president and vice president have both been tested and are negative for the virus ending good health. chief correspondent john roberts is live with more. >> ed: sandra, good morning to you. this was a number of the military and the navy who works on the white house grounds as one of the presidents valets, they take care of the presidents wardrobe. and that's close contact with the president. they tested and tested positive for coronavirus. we do not know what sort of proximity this person has been in with the president, and particularly since the vice president was at a nursing home, although he's not going inside the building. they have been in proximity and that communication person came down with coronavirus. that's the second case among personnel the white house. they will continue to ask questions about how close this person may have come to the president. they and they are also conducting serological testing for any staff member who wants to know if they were exposed previously to the coronavirus. there's a lot of surveillance going on here and as far as we know this is only the second positive test for any of the people. john, thank you. >> president trump: i think you will have a tremendous transition which is the third quarter thing. i think you will have a good fourth quarter and i think next year will be an incredibly, incredibly or economically. >> ed: president trump expressing a lot of optimism for recovery as a nation tries to reopen amid the coronavirus crisis. so what does the u.s. need to do to get the economy back on tra track? of course, good morning. the president brought you to be in, and what more do you think he and congress. we need consumer demand in order to get consumer demand, unique consumers with confidence and they will keep their jobs and not lose their job. the only way to get past these horrific on appointment numbers is with the federal jobs program. we need tracking and tracing on a national level because we need to have all that data consolidated. to do tracing and testing, to help people who are compromised and can't go out and are stuck in their homes. so many things that we needed, that's how we get the train going. >> ed: there was a call for a general strike, is not a good idea now when we are trying to do what you just said which is get more people back to work? >> if you want to guarantee a depression, yes. but if you want to bring the economy back, no. i understand the point that there is a risk of people being taken advantage of and there is an opportunity for them to work together and i'm not necessarily opposed to that but a general strike would be horrific. >> ed: is talking about consumer demand, part of that is getting sports back. we just had jim gray on who was talking about the importance of baseball. >> baseball has to play. if baseball doesn't play this is a disaster not just for the players but, there will be hundreds of millions and billions of dollars so they have to come up with some sort of a plan. >> you were quoted as saying it has to be perfect in terms of the plan to get everyone back but even before the pandemic nothing was perfect. how do you get to that? there will be actions and problems, and we want to get to some kind of balance. and i agree. i think we need the hotel california solution. you know, the quarantine environment where once you go in that you can never leave. you get tested before you come in at i think that's really the only solution in the short term. then, as we get the vaccine -- let me say this. i so believe in american conceptualism and i so believe in our community that i have no doubt we are going to get a vaccine and that vaccine will allow us to open things back up. now when that happens, it remains to be seen. but we create the hotel environmencalifornia environmenr baseball and even football. as we play the season with no fans when that vaccine becomes available then we have the confidence to open things up. these are not mutually exclusive scenarios. >> ed: warren buffett said over the weekend he's not going to bet against america. that might be the plan that catches fire. mark cuban, thanks for coming on. sandra? >> sandra: an unarmed man shot down in cold blood while jogging in georgia. will there be justice for our mode are bree? >> he had visions, he had plans. he was too young. he had dreams that wasn't fulfilled. at newday usa. newday's va streamline refi is the quickest and easiest refi they've ever offered. you can lower your payments by this time next month without having to verify your income, without getting your home appraised, and there's no money out of pocket. call newday right now. >> we are asking tom turton to join us in asking governor kemp to make sure that this goes to the grand jury immediately. i can't even imagine what the family is going through right now. the tape was released, and i'm sure they have a whole bunch of emotions. >> sandra: the naacp now calling for a review as a family demands justice in the fatal shooting of an unarmed black man by two white men in georgia. and some disturbing new video we are about to show, you can see the victim being chased down and killed. his family says he was out jogging when all of this happened. nancy grace is the host of "crime stories" on fox nation. nancy, your thoughts as we look at that video this morning? >> you know very often i have argued to juries what witnesses say happened and have said it, we don't have a video. well, there is a video of what happened. contrary to many pundits stating what is the georgia law for citizen's arrest, i can assure you of one thing, it does not include the use of deadly force on an unarmed victim. >> sandra: and the mother of that on the victim is responding now that she has seen the video. here is the attorney for ahmaud arbery's mother. >> we see clearly in that video that there were three shots. three shotgun blast which goes towards the mind-set of the shooter, that his intent was to kill ahmaud arbery. >> sandra: so does this video change everything in this case? >> it absolutely does because the only witnesses that we knew of was the father/son duo gregory and travis, and this is in their words and the police report. their words, not mine. they see ahmaud arbery running by and they see him in a suspect in prayer burglaries. they do not witness him committing any felonies, which is a prerequisite. this is not mayberry where gomer arrest people under citizen arrests. you don't arrest anyone unless they are in the commission of a felony. and we do. three gunshot wounds although the autopsy report has just been handed over and we believe that ahmaud arbery was shot twice. he was unarmed. >> sandra: we will continue what to watch that story as it develops. meanwhile we want to get an update on the cult mom lori val oh. there are relatives that say they know the children are still alive but won't give information on what they have heard what they have seen. lori va is still behind bars and refusing to cooperate even if it helps find her missing children. >> that's right, and i call that a material witness. if they know where these children are, they should cough it up. and vallow was just in court demanding she had a bond reduction from $1 million and she also had her lawyers state that she is being recorded surreptitiously in the jail as if the jailers were peeping toms. news flash. you are recorded when you have phone calls or meetings with relatives in jail. they are our recording devices in jail. not when you meet with your lawyer. long story short, there is no reason that she cannot have an in camera hearing with a judge, nobody else present but her lawyer, to reveal the whereabouts of her children and prove they are safe. so my question is, why would she refuse to do that? does she really think the world is ending in july and they are hidden away in some bunker? i'd like to think they are hidden away but our track record is not so good. there are multiple dead bodies connected to cult mother lori vallow. >> sandra: the mother insisting in her own words that those children are still alive. she sat on positive beyond any doubt that she would not have harm to kids. so that case is not closed. and the streaming now at tiger king investigation with nancy grace, it's available exclusively on fox nation. >> ed: health experts are now saying people are less likely to get covid-19 outside. how this is propelling the latest push to get the country reopened. plus the u.s. space force launching its first recruitment video. the stellar positions that you can now apply for, next. there was a time when this represented the future. but this, this is the future. the future of communicating of hearing and connecting with life. and this, is eargo. no appointments no waiting no hassles. and they are practically invisible in your ear. now you see it. now you don't. if you have hearing loss now is the time to do something about it. we're having the mother of all mother's day sales at eargo get 15% off neo hifi call or go online today. >> sandra: new research could be helping propel states across the country to reopen parks and beaches shut down because of the pandemic. people are significantly less likely to get covid-19 while outside, but they say folks should still avoid crowds and maintain 6 feet of distance from each other. he said we should enjoy nature, it's good for us and has a very low risk of spreading the virus. >> may be you weren't put here just to ask the questions. maybe you were put here to be the answer. maybe your purpose on this planet isn't on this planet. >> ed: and out of this world opportunity literally. the u.s. space force launching its first recruiting video inviting viewers to be part of the sixth branch of the armed forces. good morning, brett. kind of an interesting video to kick it all off. >> it reminds me of the army commercials back in the day. the "be all you can be" come up with a catchy tune. there is actually a link in the video that we tweeted out that brings you to the available options or available jobs on the space force and it actually sounds like something out of science fiction, but it's pretty sweet. there is a fusion analyst and a space operations officer, and cybersecurity. a lot of people think about space force and we heard about the vice president protecting our allied assets in space, there's a lot of stuff floating around over our heads, not just gps that we all used to get around but there are military satellites overhead, television and radio, sirius xm is delivered via satellite and it you know, there is imaging. we as satellites to track weather and storm system so there is a lot of stuff up there that we need to keep an eye on. china and russia are both -- we work with russia to go to the space station but china is working on building their own space station. everything you put into a space creates a potential problem because it cannot only run into other satellites it can create problems with existing infrastructure. if you knock a gps satellite out you will have a lot of problems down the road so it's good that we have people keeping tabs on this. the space full force is flooded with applications and so far they have filled 88 positions and they will grow it to 16,000 strong over the next few years. the careers that they have there are jobs over the future. and this is what we need in the next generation economy. >> ed: at the president has been talking about it for us in a long time. it was established quickly before the pandemic, and trying to protect u.s. interests and headquartered in the pentagon. that was china pushing more and more into the space and obviously we are more in the battle right now. >> yes, we are definitely over them with the origins of the coronavirus. >> is deftly more about that. brett larson, thanks for coming on. >> sandra: this 4-year-old from georgia has an impressive swing. take a look. you have to love the sound of that, that is asher willie hitting his very first home run and his proud father corey catching it all on camera. we will talk to them about all that, a happy moment, coming up next. you try to stay ahead of the mess. but scrubbing still takes time. now there's new powerwash dish spray. it's the faster way to clean as you go. just spray, wipe and rinse. it cleans grease five times faster. new dawn powerwash. spray, wipe, rinse. >> ed: fox news alert, major development in the case of a salon owner, shelley luther, down in texas. the texas supreme court has just intervened and we are learning they've ordered the release from jail of shelley luther, the salon owner. remember, she told the judge she was temped on mike sibley trying to feed her kids. she was thrown in jail for violating orders to stay closed. the order says they are expect a response by 4:00 p.m., may 11th. this was just announced by the attorney general of the state, ken paxton. he was here with us on "america's newsroom" a little while ago. meanwhile, the governor, governor abbott, has now modified his original executive order in terms of keeping businesses closed earlier on, and saying and ordering no jail time, we are told. the governor no ordering no jail time for anyone involved in any sort of citations involving covid-19. we will watch this and we have implications, obviously, around the nation. >> [celebrating] >> sandra: we need something to be happy about these days. sports fan, these are for you. we have may have scabbed a future star, asher, hitting his home run. his dad with the best direction ever. joining us now, we have asher and corey joining us now. thanks for being here. we are happy to celebrate with you. what was it like, first of all, to hit that home run? >> what was it like it, baby? >> i felt happy. >> you were happy? >> sandra: that is excellent! what was that like for dad? >> for me, personally, it was a thrill. because we have spent countless hours in the front yard, at the fields, and for that to finally happen after three years of just constantly going to the field and seeing it go over the fence for the first time, it was a thrill. it was exhilarating. as a father, to see that happen. because that is something i shared with my father, as well. i will never forget that moment. and for him to have it on film, it was -- yeah. >> harris: such an important time for families, to go out and do things like this, when we are all at home. something happy. we don't have sports to watch, so it's good to play them. ash, do you like baseball? >> yeah! >> sandra: [laughs] probably felt pretty good when you heard the ball meet the bat like that, and off it went! >> yeah, baby. >> sandra: [laughs] well, corey, we appreciate you sharing the story with us this morning. i know you are a proud dad, and these are tough times. it's nice to smile and have a laugh. >> oh, no problem. and i'd like to say, i think it is a moment of joy, and i am just happy it could bring a smile to some people's faces. in the midst of what we are in right now, something to look at and smile at is much needed. >> sandra: absolutely. ash, you look like you need a nap! [laughs] he just yawned, dad. looks like you've been playing a lot of baseball. cory and ask, thank you. the best to you. keep it up, ash! keep practicing! i know a guy who likes baseball whole lot, his name is ed henry. a fun little distraction. >> ed: aren't we all ash now? we need a nap but we also need a smile. good to see you, sandra. >> sandra: it was really fun. you, too, ed. "outnumbered" starts now. >> melissa: fox news alert, new jobless numbers deepening america's economic crisis, nearly 3.2 million more americans applying for unemployment last week, bringing the total to more than 33 million laid off since the pandemic shut down the u.s. economy. democrats are now drafting a multitrillion dollar coronavirus relief bill while some republican leaders are looking to pump the brakes on additional spending. house speaker nancy pelosi slamming the g.o.p. >> we talk about direct payments, and we talk about

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