making it difficult to enter this room. it was important for the divers to reach this room because of the fact a large number of students were believed to be there when this disaster happened. still no word yet about what they re finding in the cafeteria. but with so many students trapped inside, a lot of people here are very fearful of what the news will be as we learned in the coming hours. will ripley, thanks for the update. great reporting for will. i also want to bring in cargo ship captain jim staples and also kade courtly, founder of s.e.a.l. survival. captain, i d like to begin with you. when you hear that kind of news, that the divers have been able to get midship and to that essential cafeteria area, does that bring anything to light for you in terms of the area that they are, the danger for those doing the diving? absolutely, it s very dangerous down there it it s unreasonable to have anybody go to a main place like that in a ship when the ship is in trouble. now we hear
adopted after the titanic sank. it doesn t require a can t be stay on board but it does say the captain is responsible for the vesselpassengers. that same treaty also says passengers should be allowed to evacuate within 30 minutes. remember, the sewol ferry took more than two hours to sink off south korea. but the passengers were told to stay in place. a warning that may prove to have caused hundreds of lives. randi kaye, cnn, new york. i want to bring back cargo ship captain jim staples, a marine safety consultant. there s another reason why the old legend has it the captain should go down with the ship. perhaps not down but stay with the ship until last possible moment. why is that? that s because of salvage rights. the captain is the owner s representative on that vessel. after his first obligation of getting all the crew and passengers off, the second
why deissue the toward stay in their cabin? so there s a question of he in intelligence negligence. many people aboard this vessel tell us they heard a large boom. well it didn t hit anything. if you look at the topographical map there s nothing, no rocks that will just out and hit a vessel. they are looking whether the cargo was placed correctly and whether the ship was engineered and balanced appropriately for such a trip. anderson? i appreciate the reporting. thank you. more now with merchant marine captain jim staples, retired coast guard rescue instructor, mario vetoni. captain staples let me start with you. we still don t know what cause this ship to do what it did. you ve been looking at the route.
it s just an unbelievable story. i want to bring in cargo ship captain jim staples, a marine safety consultant. we ve been learning about the time line through these audio transcripts, really frenetic audio transcripts. 8:55, the ship supposedly made the first call for help and the ship and it s right behind us. when the ship was at zero degrees, right, and then at 9:11, at 9:01, 15 degrees, and then 9:11, 43 degrees. that s pretty fast, don t you think? that s very fast. even the initial when it went to 15 degrees is quite rapid. that s when the captain should have realized he had an initial problem. by 9:17, to show how quickly, this is at 51 degrees. and then it continues on to 60 degrees, 70 degrees and then finally capsizes completely,
on board. he s under arrest, charged with abandoning his ship, among other things. today we heard recordings of ship controllers talking to him to get those passengers off the ship. survivors say they were instead told to stay put while the ferry tipped over. we re joined by jim staples, a veteran merchant marine, an expert on giant pilot ships around the world. looking back he s piloted ships in this very area. captain, just as you look at the circumstances here and now that we ve heard those early communications where when the ship s captain first made that distress call to shore, they told him to make an abandon ship order and then it was more than two hours later that the ship completely sank. what decrgree of failure is thi for a captain of a ship with passengers on board? 100% failure. he should have evacuated that vessel immediately. as soon as he knew that that ship was in trouble, he should have ordered people to their