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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20150829:06:47:00

it s kind of hard for me to explain. you start feeling. they talk about conscience. before you didn t have a conscience. you start developing a conscience. because you actually have time to sit in a cell all day and think about the things you ve done. you know what i mean? it s like, man, why did i do that? what a dumb kid. during our shoot at new mexico, sears had been approved for a transfer to level five. a lower security housing unit where he would have considerably more freedom and the opportunity to be around other inmates. but with sears, nothing is certain. he s been in level five a couple times. i hope he makes it. joe sears, it s a big waiting game. only joe sears knows if he can make it there or not. i personally have never had any problems with him.

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20150829:06:46:00

muscle. he was part of the aryan brotherhood. he was one of the big boys in that faction. he was the type of guy that would have put the hurt on you if you looked at him wrong at that point. i guess a lot of people looked at me as one of the, if you mess with the white boys or there s a problem with them, joe s going to be one of them. he ll be up front. you ll have to deal with him. as a level six inmate, sears lives in solitary confinement and is allowed outdoors no more than an hour a day, which he spends in this exercise cage. hard time has taken its toll. he s lost a lot of weight. mentally he s not as sure of himself. a big piece of my life is ruined. it s just real sad, it s a waste of time. sears has no family or friends waiting for him. our crew was his first contact with outside faces in years. he opened up on how his time has affected him.

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20150829:06:44:00

i didn t know what to expect. or what to do. i knew right away i d get jumped, beat up, maybe worse, maybe raped, maybe murdered. joe sears might have been a scared kid when he first arrived, but he quickly grew to be one of the most feared inmates the prison has ever known. very dangerous individual. has the potential to be very dangerous anyways. very strong. has his mind set on his beliefs which aren t really the norm of any known society that i know of. so he s a very difficult type of person. i remember joe sears very vividly. because so many of the correctional officers had dealt with him in the 20 years he had been locked up there. people kind of lowered their voices when they talked about joe sears. as a result of fights, intimidation and other rule violations, sears has spent most of the past 15 years in new mexico s highest security unit, level six.

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20150413:03:44:00

man, i was just like i was scared to death. i didn t know what to expect. or what to do. i knew right away i d get jumped, beat up, maybe worse, maybe raped, maybe murdered. joe sears might have been a scared kid when he first arrived, but he quickly grew to be one of the most feared inmates the prison has ever known. very dangerous individual. has the potential to be very dangerous anyways. very strong. has his mind set on his beliefs which aren t really the norm of any known society that i know of. so he s a very difficult type of person. i remember joe sears very vividly. because so many of the correctional officers had dealt with him in the 20 years he had been locked up there. people kind of lowered their voices when they talked about joe sears. as a result of fights, intimidation and other rule violations, sears has spent most of the past 15 years in new

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20150413:03:47:00

he opened up on how his time has affected him. it s kind of hard for me to explain. you start feeling. they talk about conscience. before you didn t have a conscience. you start developing a conscience. because you actually have time to sit in a cell all day and think about the things you ve done. you know what i mean? it s like, man, why did i do that? what a dumb kid. during our shoot at new mexico, sears had been approved for a transfer to level five. a lower security housing unit where he would have considerably more freedom and the opportunity to be around other inmates. but with sears, nothing is certain. he s been in level five a couple times. i hope he makes it. joe sears, it s a big waiting game. only joe sears knows if he can make it there or not.

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