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Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 11:40:00

we can expel russian diplomats we can call their ambassador in. we can push at economics we can consider specific sanctions. it simply opens the door for a basket of responses, david i ll tell ya, bottom line, unfortunately, i think that this reporter has found himself as a pawn in the gambits of vladimir putin. i don t look for a quick resolution, unfortunately. admiral, if you could, before we let you go, we re coming up on spring in ukraine possible spring offensive we ve been hearing about for some time give us your best insights with all the information that you glean from your sources throughout the day what s the state of the war right now? what are the next three, four months looking like? i think, joe, we really have two wars that are going on

Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 10:49:00

about democracy. again, they just keep turning the they re energizing the very people they don t want energized for 2024. yeah, i mean, look, one of the fundamental truisms, joe, is young people in america in the 21st century just despise, loathe, have no interest in party parties. they don t like either one of them they don t like that system. they don t like those labels what they re animated by is by issues they re animated by causes they re animated by whether that s the environment or, in the case now with abortion, where a fundamental right of theirs has been taken away they re animated by guns they re animated by things that in a powerful way. this is not an apathetic generation it is just a generation that doesn t behave in the way that a

Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 10:21:00

state where these killings continue to happen, and i couldn t you see some of the most lax gun laws. joe, even if you don t know about heller, if you read the language in the constitution, i mean, i would say the vast majority of people you run into at a republican event, trump campaign rallies, wherever you want to go, they have no idea even that there is a that the frame around the second amendment speaks of the context of a well-regulated militia. these are the words in the constitution, not even wha you d need to know if you ever read the supreme court decision. i ve got to say, to echo another thing that jen said sa sa second ago, i mean, the list is as long of our arms together of the disheartening familiarity of the things we go through every time there is another one of these events i think, you know, one of the most striking and acute and heartbreaking elements of this now is very particular, which

Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 11:20:00

couldn t help. or how about the story of the women in texas i sat there, didn t say a word, and i listened i thought, okay, these are a bunch of republicans these are a bunch of people who identified add prs pro lifers every one of them are shaken to the core by these horrible stories that just keep multiplying in states, where old men in state legislatures are basically telling doctors they can t help women in duress joe, it gets worse and worse. it does. florida has now 15-week abortion ban. the state legislature is considering, and governor desantis is likely to sign, perhaps this week, a 6-week abortion ban we saw the horror stories from the 15-week ban. imagine the 6-week ban, before many women even know or are sure

Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 10:53:00

that have exceeded but want to show how others can exceed but deal with social issues like crime, criminal justice reform families of people like tyre nichols all the way back to trayvon martin we re very excited about it. it just happened to contrast at the same time as the nra i was telling martin luther king iii, one of our speakers, you couldn t have planned this better it s something that needs to happen this is the issue of the day we need gun laws. yes yes, yes. thank you so much. sqjohn heilemann, what are yu working on today. what am i working on today, joe? good question. trying to get kind of trying to focus on, hopefully, getting through this day without another mass shooting in america that would be a positive thing yeah. trying to keep track of all this stuff is always on the trump legal front. there s so much going on, trying to kind of look at what is going on in the front of georgia and,

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