and our crew that are the best in the industry. you re hearing that from several airlines this afternoon after chinese airlines say they would no longer fly the plane. trace? yeah, the max is brand new. we know the roots in the u.s. that use this 737 max. yeah. this from the points guy online, if you re interested in more details. southwest, vegas to houston is one route that uses it. washington dulles to denver and american airlines using it on miami to la guardia flights. more details on the website if you want to check it out. back to you. trace: yeah, i was on one of them last week. great to see you. thank you. trace: let s bring in john gurley, a former ntsb board member and former airline mechanic. the whole idea here, we re not trying to link the lion airline crash with the ethiopian air cran. but these planes don t just fall out of the sky. you know better that