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July 12, 2013
That trayvon martin was under the age of 18 and that this was about the heart of a grown man versus the heart of a child. that is something that is sort of -- trayvon martins age is something the prosecution has very much highlighted in these closing days. >> thats true. i think the point about the lies was an extremely important point for the prosecution. but lets keep in mind that george zimmerman is not on trial for lying. hes on trial for murder or manslaughter. i would have liked to have se...
July 12, 2013
Of sort of bringing it all back together in a very concise narrative. >> yeah, i mean, john guy was very powerful. it was almost a sermon. it was very poetic from him. i think part of the question here is are these women, most of whom are white going to say i understand being afraid of a black man in the dark. or are they going to be five out of six mothers who say that this was a boys worst nightmare, to be coming home from the store, doing nothing wrong and being followed by somebody. and the ...
July 12, 2013
There is a risk that you condescend a little bit to the jury when you say maybe your common sense and the emotional part of you, all you six female jurors wants to go this way, but you need to not do that. dont think like that. you need to think -- you need to use your reason and not your common sense, use your reason and not your emotion there is a risk that in doing that, i know across social media, there was a lot of people responding to it that way, that it come across a little condescending...
July 12, 2013
He spoke on behalf of trayvon martin, on behalf of his parents, on behalf of the state of florida. he said we dont really know what happened in that altercation between trayvon and george zimmerman, but here is what we do know. and he painted that narrative from beginning to end, which ended with trayvon martin being shot and killed in his last emotion, his last thought was fear, because a man he did not know was following him. and i thought that was a great point today. >> now marcia, let me as...
July 12, 2013
This case thing. because when i heard it, seema, for me it was a reverse matthew mcconaughey in "a time to kill" moment. remember, john guy said, if the races were reversed, if trayvon martin were white and george zimmerman were black and if you would convict george zimmerman under that scenario, then you must convict george zimmerman under the real life sscenario. thats why i think john guy said race is not a part of this and to the point that paul made earlier, that maybe they were afraid to g...
July 12, 2013
Been discussed more inside the courtroom, since from the beginning so much of this case in the public discourse, at least, centered around the topic. but judge debra nelson ordered that they couldnt say that they racially profiled martin, only that he profiled martin. still, the question remains, what role, if any, will race play in the jurys verdict joy reed is a contributor. why do you think it was necessary for them to make that statement when race hadnt been spoken of up until then. >> i thi...
July 12, 2013
Cameras. perhaps the most interesting thing was to look at the jurors. i could concentrate on them. i found them to be somewhat stone faced. its not as if you can read where they are. theyre looking both at the defense attorney mark omara and looking at john guy, who did the rebuttal for the state with the same intensity. taking few notes. in fact, during john guys rebuttal, i only saw one juror jot down twice for less than 25 seconds twice. so it appeared they had heard what they needed to hear...
July 12, 2013
Inconsistencies and i thought one of the specialing things that was tracked yesterday was that lie, lie, lies, lied, or lying was used 28 times. have you heard anything or do you think the jury needs to hear anything in this closing argument that says he is credible? that says his story, which they showed in this animation, is not to be believed? >> by the prosecution? >> yes. >> i think they have been saying that from the very beginning and as we have been saying around this table, they need to...
July 12, 2013
Trayvon martin had any animous towards george zimmerman. i always thought it strange he was lurking behind bushes and is just going to haul off and sucker is punch him out of the blue. that doesnt make sense. >> how could he be following him then sneak up on him to get sucker punched? i think lisas point is also correct. trayvon martin used both of the big sort of racial words. i think that cancels themselves out as opposed to george zimmerman who seems to be presenting this. i cant look back be...
July 12, 2013
Flashlight, to all of the pieces of evidence that were presented? >> yes. and they can have testimony read back of the witnesses who testified in the court, because thats evidence as well. >> okay. karen, we were just talking about the way the defense introduced race. the states rebuttal, prosecutor john guy, also mentioned race, but in a slightly different way. take a listen to this. >> if the roles were reversed, and it was 28 year old george zimmerman walking home in the rain with a hoodie on...