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suddenly vanishes from the road and where he walks away from the view and quickly reappears at the door. immediately following repeats all the while the audio is playing uninterrupted. it's not clear whether the video was edited or an equipment video was to blame. all of this saying it has a account. >> i'm going to drag you out of here. >> you're going to drag me out of my own car? >> get out of the car. ly light you up. >> really for failure to signal. >> a bystander captured images of the trooper holding bland to the cam. >> you're a real man now. you done slammed me and knocked me head in the ground. >> good good. >> you should have thought about that before you start resisting. >> authorities say bland later committed suicide in her cell. this is a look inside where she spent her final hours. the texas dltepartment of public safety says the trooper failed to comply with the department standards for professionalism. he is pulled off parol duty as state officials investigate. police say they're looking into bland's death as a murder. >> we reached out to the department of public safety asking about the discrepancies in the video tape. we were told by a spokesperson that they would be looking at that and answering those questions at some point today but also another bit of news we could be getting today as well is that the family that conducted and ordered it's own independent autopsy of sandra bland it's possible that we get the results of that independent autopsy back today. >> thank you for that background. joining us is a law enforcement analyst and retired detective and host of huff post live. thank you for being here. let's just start with the moment of escalation. the moment that a routine traffic stop because she did not signal when she saw a police officer behind her as she was pulling over turns into something different. >> this is this moment. get out of the car. >> why am i apprehended. >> i get out of the car. >> why am i being apprehended? you opened my car door. >> i'm going to drag you out of here. >> you're going to drag me out of my own car. >> get out of the car. i will light you up. get out, now. >> he says i will light you up. you can see the way i interrupt it, is that he is escalating. what do you see? >> the problem i have with the video is the fact of is he taking her out of the car because she would not stop smoking. >> right before this he says would you mind putting out your cigarette and she says this is my own car, why do i have to put out my cigarette. >> right and she doesn't have to and the officer asked her. if she didn't that's fine. i'm fine with that also? was that the reason why he pulled her out? that's the way it looks. i don't know what's going through this guy's mind. i'm not a mind reader. the fact is does he have the right to pull her out of the car on a car stop, yes he does. >> but don't you think he's escalating unnecessarily here. >> would i do it no. >> to answer your question yes. he's clearly escalating this. she could have stayed in the car and they would have never had this interaction. >> we don't know that. >> pulling her out of the car lead to everything that happened after that. >> she was pretty combative at the beginning of the stop. >> when he comes at her and says what's wrong, you have a problem. why did you have an attitude. he could have just given her the ticket. lots of people have an attitude when they are pulled over. you have a right to be ticked off but he was getting her to do this stuff. that's unnecessary. his job is to diffuse the situation. >> lots of people have an attitude when they're pulled over and we don't end up with an officer's knee in our back. >> the police officer needs to be more professional. and i agree with that and i've always been saying that since i have been seeing this video but the fact is he still has the right to pull her out of the vehicle. at the same time may place her under arrest because it's in lieu of arrest because he says now you're going to get arrested for the summons he can do it. >> that's a technicality. >> but you can always do a summons. i could jaywalk and you could arrest me. >> you can always arrest somebody. >> the officer had the option and the fact that she kept coming at the officer, totally disrespect for the police officer. >> not coming at him. verbally. i want to clarify something because she asks him 14 times why am i being apprehended? in your training doesn't an officer have to telling somebody why they're being apprehended? >> no. i don't have to tell you why you're being placed under arrest. i can just place you under arrest. it doesn't matter. you're going to find out and you usually know. >> would you tell somebody? >> it depends on the situation. in something like that i would have told her you're under arrest get out of the vehicle. that's what i would have said. >> so he asked her why she's upset. pulls her out of the car for smoking a cigarette, then he's going to arrest her for lane change and then doesn't answer her question. of course he pulled her over because it appears she made an illegal lane change. >> you can't defer to the whole i'm not a mind reader thing. all we have is the tape. >> i want to bring up the discrepancies here. this is why people believe it's edited. you see the tow truck operator and you see him again. and then you see this white car. it comes in and pops out of frame and in this one, this is where there's been audio for 52 minutes of this arrest and then here the audio drops out and the video goes on for the next minute and a half. and nobody know ifs there was sort of audio. does any of this arouse suspicion to you. some looks like video glitches. >> does it arouse suspicion? absolutely. the police officer's behavior combined with the video and the mysterious death all of it together does arouse suspicion. it doesn't mean we have a full picture here. we need an investigation. >> let's ator thelter the video when the car is being towed. this is where they're cutting the video off to be able to turn it over to the press. >> there's no chance the video is edited. >> there's a possibility but why would you do it when the car is being towed or why the officer is making the stop? it doesn't make sense. >> there will be people like you that said the officer did nothing wrong. maybe the edited parts are what -- >> even they don't show the officer doing anything right or wrong. >> i'm saying the stuff that's not there might be -- >> what's not there -- >> which is where why we should investigate it. >> these seems to be peculiar places to edit it to harry's point because nothing was happening. i want to move out because we talked to the reverend jamal bryant. they want to know about her death. why was she left in the jail cell for three days not using a turn signal and is that common place that in a jail cell there would be a plastic liner? >> if it wasn't there and she wanted to kill herself all she had to do is take her clothes off and do it. >> she could hang herself. >> she can hang herself from her clothes. take her top off or bottoms off or use the sheet on the bed. there's so many ways to do something like that. based on the evidence i'm seeing there there's no evidence to indicate that she was murdered at all. they interview the prisoners across from her cell and said they heard and saw nothing. the video tape shows nothing. people pulling things out of the air thinking this is a racial incident and a murder. >> where do you want the investigators to start with this case? >> i want woman standingtwo starts. these are peculiar places to edit but if the video is doctored here there could be doctoring in places we haven't considered yet but it to know what happened in that cell. those things could be connected and entirely disconnected. but even in the best case scenario. even if there is no murder being covered up there's still effect that poor police practices lead to a three day incarceration and lead to a death and that in and of itself caused a problem. i don't take the police's word as gospel. >> we may be getting more information. more answers may be coming out. thank you so much for the analysis. >> thank you. >> lindsey graham is waking up with a few missed calls this morning. why? his rival donald trump upped the ante last night in south carolina and gave out his personal cell number of the state's senior senator. that's not funny except that it is. it's the latest move in the war of words. let's get to jeff live with the latest. what is going on? >> chris, good morning. i mean the republican presidential race suddenly seems like more of a free for all or certainly a playground brawl. now donald trump is off the campaign trail at least for today but he is still at the center of the conversation whether some republicans like it or not. >> it's been an interesting couple of weeks. >> that's an understatement. >> they didn't like the way i'm a little loud. i'm a little too strong. they don't like it. >> after rocketing to the top of the gop field trump is now trying to stay there. he's fighting republicans that fear he'll hurt the party's chances to win back the white house. >> this morning a new poll suggests some concerns of republican leaders could be justified. in three key election battlegrounds, colorado iowa and virginia nearly 6 in 10 voters hold unfavorable views of trump. but for now, his rhetoric is resinating with republican primary voters. the war of words seemed to start when lindsey graham said this to cnn. >> he is becoming a jackass. >> then i watch this video lindsey graham on television today and he calls me a jackass. >> trump retaliated by giving out graham's personal cell phone number. >> he gave me his number and i found the card. i wrote the number down. i don't know if it's the right number. let's try it. 202 -- >> jeb bush respects trump supporters but urged him to take a second look. >> what am i supposed to call him? donald? mr. trump. if we embrace this language of ugliness we'll never win. >> there's new signs that trump is starting to get the scrutiny of a front runner. opposing campaigns are pouring through his old statements including many from cnn like this. >> do you identify more as a democrat or republican? >> well you'd be shocked if i said that in many cases i probably identify more as a democrat and it just seems that the economy does better under the democrats than the republicans. >> now it's those old views that could come back to haunt trump but trump is pressing ahead and trying to change the subject. this time back to immigration. his aids tell cnn this morning that he's heading to the u.s. mexico border tomorrow for a tour with a group of border patrol agents. he is prosing building a new wall to stop undocumented immigrants to come into the u.s. >> there's probably going to be some sound bites from the trip to the border. we'll be watching. >> you're right. >> u.s. officials confirming a death of the top leader of an al qaeda offshoot in an air strike from syria. barbara star is live with more on who this man was and how they were able to do this. barbara, good morning. >> did the chattanooga gunman that killed five servicemen become radicalized? he did have an interest in a once key recruiter for al qaeda. let's get to her live with the latest. what have we learned this morning? >> investigators are uncovering many new details about him and all of these signs are pointing them to terrorism being the motive there. they found internet searches made on a smartphone where he was researching if someone was questions whether they could use martyr dom to atone for his sins like drinking and some writings in 2013 where he has many references to the american born al qaeda leader. someone that inspired recent terrorist attacks like the boston marathons and the shooting in paris like charlie hebdo. they're focussing on the 48-72 hour window. they're trying to piece together who he came into contact with. now as investigators continue to dig in here they're also looking at his uncle in jordan who is being held and questioned by authorities there. this is not see there's any information that suggests he's guilty or involved in anyway but it does add another layer to this very complicated puzzle that investigators are trying to solve. >> disturbing news to tell you about and we keep telling you about this story, this report of several incidents again last night of lasers being aimed at planes over new york and new jersey. that's what it looks like and the suspicion is right now that these are fools. that it's not terrorism or criminal activity these are fools that are doing this. at least four different planes including an airbus near newark liberty international airport. as well as laguardia airport. meantime a united airlines plane was effected by a laser on approach to new york. it literally blinds the pilots. they're going to catch you and when they do nobody is going to feel sorry for you. >> ant antiabortion group releasing another undercover video on planned parenthood. she is shown talking with activists posing as medical company representatives. haggling prices for parts at one point joking she wants a lamborghini lamborghini. they say it's heavily edited. >> president obama joining john stewart for the last time on the daily show. trying to school stewart on the complicated dynamic in the middle east. watch. >> so we're fighting with iraqis to defeat isis along with iran. but in yemen we're fighting iran with iraqis and saudis. >> that's not quite right but that's okay. >> whose team are -- who are we bombing? >> right now we're going after isil and we have a 60 country coalition and that's a top priority. but with respect to iran look this is an adversary. they are anti-american, antiisrael, antisemetic, they sponsor hezbollah. >> sounds like a good partner for peace. >> as been said frequently you don't make peace with your friends. >> hard to trip up the president there. he joked he signed an executive order for jon stewart to stay at the daily show but the comedian will sign off on august 6th. >> what do you think? >> it's funny. i like them together. it's a great opportunity for any sitting president to go on a show like that and show a different side of themselves. >> any politician going on these to see if they're quick. you just see them a little bit unplugged. >> how seriously they take themselves but a great demonstration of what the risk is with political satire on jon stewart. he was oversimplifying. of course they're not a great partner for peace. >> with comedy that's okay. >> or is it when people start to believe the jokes more than when it comes out of the president's mouth. >> that's not his fall. >> that's what you say. donald trump leading the republican pack right now but as he makes more gop foes could he decide to run as an independent? 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>> well he has a sense of humor and i think senator graham is determined to make himself the chairman of the trump for president campaign. when you do the kind of things that senator graham is doing, all this does is bring more support to donald trump. >> you mean calling him names. a colorful name. >> i can't say that on live tv. to be serious here this is the problem. they have two of the things that donald trump talks about. confidence and the establishment insiders. i have printed out an article this morning. here's jeb bush in politico courting defendant courting lobbyiests and now he has reform programs. this goes to the issue of the gang. i'm not picking on governor bush here but this is the problem with the republican establishment. saying we've got to win and the answer is win for what? why are we supposed to win? >> you're making a small point. one small point as push back. trump is a self-admitted per pervayer of that standard. he's not someone to point to that problem but you point to a larger issue and anna i can tell by the grave look on your face this morning that there's concern here. mel martinez was talk about how he believes that jeb bush is the right candidate for the party. it's not just that donald trump captured the mood of the disenfranchised but he takes a big bite out of jeb bush head up against hillary clinton. >> a big bite out of what? >> the butt cheeks. >> all right. showing off some spanish today. let's remember he is married to a latina. frankly i don't think he's taking a bite out of jeb's apple. i think he is taking a bite out of everybody else's apple. i don't know that there's that much cross over between donald trump potential voters and supporters and jeb supporters. >> he only takes 4 points away from hilary and a ton away from jeb. >> that's the numbers. that's a different issue. if he runs as a third party candidate i think it is a different issue and one of the things that i have been saying all along is look you know donald trump is a fraud. go look at his views. up until just a few years ago he was a democrat. he has donated money to every campaign of hillary clinton's. he has praised hillary clinton. he praised barrack obama's stimulus program. he employees illegal immigrants. he takes government subsidies. he doesn't meet with special interests because he is a special interest. he has given and dulled out money to every side. now he's pretending to be a republican. his ideology is the ideology of trump. he has not said he's not going to run as a third party candidate. he has not said he will support the republican nominee so what i would say is take a step back. this is for the presidency of the united states. let's take a deep breath. let's take a look at people's records. let's take a look at their views and where they stand and whether they are electable before we jump on any band wagon. >> let's listen to what donald trump just said this morning. he says that he will get the latino vote. here's why. listen. >> we have to attack hilary. she was the worst secretary of state in the history of the country. she has plenty to lose by. believe me if i am chosen i'll beat hillary and also get the hispanic vote. i employ thousands and thousands of hispanics. i'll bring jobs back from china and lots of other places. >> what do you think of that logic, jeffrey? >> there's a poll out of nevada that shows him getting 31% of the hispanic vote. so i don't think that that's farfetched at all and as far as donald trump being a democrat that famous speech that reagan gave in 1964 there's a line in there that says i have spent most of my life as a democrat. so you know there's a lot of precedent going around with the most famous republican president of the modern error in terms of having been a democrat. so i don't see that as a problem at all. >> anna trump says he will get the hispanic vote because he employees thousands of them. >> well i'm not sure that the thousands that he employees are all eligible to vote. if the washington post is correct and a good number of them are illegal i suspect they won't be able to vote. that would be committing voter fraud and i also think that he you know i don't know what he -- what he puts on his wheaties in the morning to believe that latinos like him or hispanics like him. he likes himself a lot but in the event that he's got any doubt. let me explain it to him in english and then in spanish. [ speaking spanish ] >> latinos are not going to vote for you. we don't like you. you know why, because you don't like us and you disparage mexicans in one big broad group. the guy lives in a parallel universe. i don't know how you respond to it other than you know taking some hahlucigens and going the same route. >> that's called identity politics and that's what's wrong with the country and should never be part of the republican party. we should be color blind period that's it. >> but how do you see that as a defense of what trump is doing. >> see what as a defense of. >> that proposition? how is trump representative of that principle being brought to fruition. >> well he's looking at quote, unquote, latinos as americans and talking about jobs. why is he getting 31% in the nevada poll of the hispanic vote. if he's so unpopular how could he possibly get 31% of the poll. >> who knows what is behind that one poll. maybe it's reflective. maybe it isn't but we know what he said. he's going to the border tomorrow and do you believe he's going to go down there tomorrow and be color blind and give a message of unity or do you think he'll stoke the flames of discontent and pairranoia. >> mexico has broaders. if you cross them from the south we're in big trouble. we had a marine that crossed the border by mistake and they threw him in jail for months on end. to say that we should have a border what does that have to do with the color of one's skin. we have a border with canada. >> anna jeffrey. >> i just think it's very ironic -- i will say that i think it's very ironic that jeffrey is here defending donald trump and talking against identity politics when in his announcement speech trump used identity politics to disparage an entire nationality and call them rapists and thugs. >> we'll have a lot of material after this visit. thank you. >> thank you. >> meanwhile the father of the san francisco woman gunned down on the san francisco pier by an undocumented immigrant that man is calling for immigration reform. will something be done? 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you have this problem. i think jim said it very well there. there's a lot of problems on a lot of levels. and in doing my research you understand the issue of how sanction ware sanctuary cities came to be and why and very clearly. it wasn't just a free pass to illegal aliens. the system is broken and you guys at d.c. failed to fix it at the federal level. your committee passed a bill and proposition that would fix the problems with isis and their localities and it's gone nowhere for months to address that part of the problem. >> we definitely want that bill and several other. five enforcement bills passed out of the judicial committee and homeland security committee he want all of those bills brought to the floor of the house. we'll bring one bill that addresses part of this problem. >> why hasn't it happened? >> well, because there is not consensus here on what to do but we're pushing hard and i believe that those bills will come to the floor but it's also important to stress that if the kurnlt laws were enforced a lot of this problem would be resolved and they're not being enforced. the number of deportations from the interior of the country has gone way down under the obama administration and that's got to change. there's got to be leadership from the top saying we're going to take seriously the fact that there are these people on the street. they have gone up by 70,000. >> the administration says that there's been more deportations under the obama administration than ever. >> that's not true. they are apreheading those they send back immediately. the bush administration didn't even count those numbers. 2-thirds are people that come across. they don't go through a deportation process and they now count them as a deportation. if you look at the numbers for the interior of the country they're down 70%. >> so let's take your numbers. i'm interrupted because i agree with your premise but i want to get to the process. they're only the problem to the extent that they're symptomatic of the failure of the system. you know the history of them. a lot of people are spreading misinformation and even the phrase sanctuary city has a good faith based logic in being misleading but it hasn't been fixed. your committee keeps coming up with proposals that should be debated and they don't get debated. why not look at your brothers and sisters in congress and say we have failed? >> one of the fixes is to cutoff funds to cities not cooperating. >> why? it's why they don't cooperate. you know that a circuit court found the way that ice asks for people to be held over in localities doesn't meet fourth amendment standards. you know often they wait too long and municipalities got sued and that was the big reason they started passing these local laws. >> sewer but if they didn't wait too long because the obama administration said we're going to deal with this we have 34,000 beds to hold people for depor de deportation purposes and we're noot using all of those beds. if the administration were enforcing the law we'd have less of this problem and this individual mr. sanchez said he went to san francisco because he knew it was a sanctuary city where he would be less likely to be picked up. it's not in the interest of local governments to take this post posture. they should cooperate and make sure that when they have a criminal illegal alien that they call somebody and say help us get this person out of our community and not just release them back out on the street. so yes we have bills in the congress we want to move forward on but also it's important to note that the obama administration and these cities need to do everything they can do under the law and much of it be solved by that. >> but it all comes from the federal level. that's the set of fixes we need. your committee has done it's job. it hasn't been followed through in congress and that's why we're pushing for the progress. >> we thank you for that and we want to see those bills go to the floor of the house. >> good luck. we'll stay on it. please come back and let us know about the progress or lack there of. >> thanks chris. >> allison. >> president obama is heading to kenya this week and brooke baldwin travelled to kenya and sat down exclusively with the president's family. the surprising things they have to say about barrack obama. no fifth grader's ever sat at the cool table. but your jansport backpack is permission to park it wherever you please. hey. that's that new gear feeling. now get a swiss gear backpack for only $10. office depot officemax. gear up for school. gear up for great. you're driving along, having a perfectly nice day, when out of nowhere a pick-up truck slams into your brand new car. one second it wasn't there and the next second... boom! you've had your first accident. now you have to make your first claim. so you talk to your insurance company and... boom! you're blindsided for a second time. they won't give you enough money to replace your brand new car. don't those people know you're already shaken up? 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have you seen that video? ♪ amazing grace ♪ >> i'm surprised he sang so well. it was amazing. it was amazing. ♪ i once was lost ♪ >> what does she make of the fact -- >> beautiful to see her reaction to that and also understand she lead you to someone even more special. their grandmother. >> so i went to momma sarah's home. i walked along the same path way that president obama walked and sat in her front living room and shared coca-cola and pictures of the first family on the walls and we sat with her and i will add on the record the president will be heading to nirobi for this summit and he's only supposed to be there for 48 hours but you get the sense of this anticipation that perhaps, perhaps, perhaps from the people in this village and maybe even from his grandmother that he will come home. >> were there preparations underway? >> freshly planted flowers. i sort of said what's going on because it's not on the schedule to head there and if anything a sense of pride. there's always media camped out but also in nairobi and i wanted to show you i hopped on many an airplane and this is the cover of the kenya airways and obviously you recognize this person as the president of the united states. so here there's grafiti artists painted his face outside of the airport. you say obama and people get excited there. >> we have to point to your full interview. it's going to air this afternoon right here on brooke's show 2:00 p.m. eastern on cnn. >> thank you. >> all right. horray for mr. bus driver. he does something that goes a very long way and that's why it's the good stuff. then one night, you hydroplane into a ditch. yeah... surprise... your insurance company tells you to pay up again. why pay for insurance if you have to pay even more for using it? 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