they didn t need to hear that on the tape. that they whacked somebody. this is what he wanted. i don t think it will hold up. unlike white water and the clinton investigation. and the impeachment. those things were all really internal to bill clinton and his personal behavior. they weren t reflective of the president of the united states trying to shift government resources assets and policy. to achieve a political vehicict you know john sale. the former prosecutor. he s been on the show. this is what rudy giuliani water gate prosecutor. not white water. former water gate prosecutor. rudy giuliani is hired him as his lawyer. this is what he told me. john sail was on back in may. up until october 20, 1973, there was no serious talk about impeachment. but the saturday night massacre.
no one has told me whether i can or should testify or speak further about this matter. there has been discussion about an appearance before congress. any testimony from this office would not go beyond our report. it contains our findings and analysis and the reasons for the decisions we made. we chose those words carefully and the words speak for itself. and the report is my testimony. brian: let s bring in john sail former assistant watergate prosecutor has some opinions on this about what robert mueller did yesterday. the president doesn t think he changed things. john, do you think the president is looking at a different verdict today after robert mueller s statement yesterday. no, i don t. but, you know, there is a lot of ban theying around around witch-hunt and it s not whether you or you guys think it s a witch-hunt. if you put yourselves in the shoes of the president he never believed he did
prosecutor to. he is going to say my report speaks for itself. ainsley: what he said yesterday. pete: john sail, than sale. thank you. jillian: ashton kutcher taking the stand in accused serial killer. he never answered the door for him when he went to pick her up for a date. this was back in 2001. kutcher saying quote i remember the next day after i heard about what happened i went to the detectives and said my fingerprints are on the door. i was freaking out. kutcher was assured he was not a suspect. suspect michael faces life in prison if convicted. a tearful father gives heart breaking testimony about his son s deadly overdose in a landmark opioid trial. from the university of oklahoma the saturday before
former federal prosecutors, kim railee and john sail. good evening. good to see you both. y thank you for coming on. john, i m going to start with you. this is what rosenstein said today. watch this. it was a knee-jerk reaction to suggest that we should be transparent about what we do in government, but there are a lot of reasons not to be transparent about what we do in government. my view is the department of justice is best served when people are confident we re going to operate when we re investigating american citizens in particular we re going to do it with appropriate sensitivity to the rights of uncharged people. if we aren t prepared to prove our case beyond reasonable doubt in court then we have no business making allegations against american citizens. so john, we re expecting the mueller report to be delivered soon. is do you get an indication from that he s speaking about the president? is he speaking in generalities? is he sending us a signal? with all due respect to
he had to walk that fine line to say, no, no, i m not racist. i think right out of the gate to have this debate, literally right out of the gate in florida, sets a bad tone for the race and says this is something that s going to be a major issue for the campaign. and i think it s dangerous for desantis to play with this, because if he does, he sets this up to be a very divisive race, but also a race where the whole center of it is about racial issues and not about the economy, not anything else, but it really sort of is about white versus black and that s just an awful thing to run on. given that, if it s white versus black, john, do you think this is routinely a florida thing, that this is contained in washington? could that same argument, hypothetically, happen there? i don t think it would play the same way in wisconsin and states are different. but i do think that states are battlegrounds in a broader national struggle to define what