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house speaker john boehner made the short trip up pennsylvania avenue to the white house thursday to talk to president obama about the fiscal cliff. the tax hikes and spending cuts set to kick in january 1st. they met for nearly an hour. both sides describe the discussion as frank. >> i think speaker boehner has a contentious caucus. >> the president wants to pretend that spending isn't a problem. that's why we don't have an agreement. >> president obama insists on raising taxes on the top 2% of earners, but even he recognizes that's a tough sell. >> the idea of not raising taxes has become sort of a religion for a lot of members of the republican party. >> speaker boehner accuses the president of dragging out negotiations. >> unfortunately the white house is so unserious about cutting spending that it appears willing to slow-walk any agreement and walk our economy right up to the fiscal cliff. >> here on capitol hill speaker boehner joined many of his colleagues in taking a long weekend off, frustrating those who want all of congress to keep working until a deal is done. >> two two-day workweeks in a row. this is just not right. how does this make sense? >> reporter: >> but even if congress stays in town, it probably will not help with only president obama and speaker boehner the only two parties negotiating. >> most of us here are not in the loop of what they are discussing. >> as of this morning, they're not scheduled for any more talks. now, more and more republicans say the party may be better off giving up this fight on taxes, possibly engaging now in a larger battle next year when the debt ceiling is going to need to be raised and they're going to need leverage. that happens late february, next year. >> susan mcginnis, thank you so much. u.n. ambassador susan rice meets with president obama today, her first face-to-face since withdrawing as candidate for secretary of state of state. tara mergener reports. >> reporter: united nations' ambassador susan rice will not be the next secretary of state. rice withdrew her name thursday considering she'd face an uphill fight with senate republicans. she said this to nbc news. >> because i didn't want to see a confirmation process that was very prolonged, very politicized, very distracting, and very disruptive. >> reporter: gop lawmakers are upset over rice's explanation on the coordinated terrorist attack on the consulate in benghazi libya. the assault killed ambassador christopher stevens and three others. >> we did not have information at present that leads us to c n conclude this was premeditated or preplanned. >> reporter: arizona not john mccain led the charge saying rice and mislead the nation. >> it is clear the information she gave was incorrect. >> while the president never nominated rice to replace the outgoing hillary clinton as secretary of state, she was clearly his top pick. he even lashed out at his gop opponent suggesting they were in for a bigger fight. >> when they go after the u.n. ambassador apparent lay because they think she's an easy target, then they've got a problem with me. >> but in the end the gop hit their target. rice bowed out and the president accepted it. speculation on who he will nominate now focuses on massachusetts senator john kerr where who heads the senate foreign relations committee. tara mergener for cbs news, the white house. after she withdrew her name, rice tweeted, those who know me know that i am a fighter but not at the cost of what's right for our country. i don't do this work for me, rice tweeted. i do it because i believe in president obama's approach to the world, and i want to get things done. today is the deadline for states to decide whether or not to run their own insurance exchanges called for in the president's health care overhaul law. six states are undecided. 19 states have decided not to run their own health insurance markets and will instead rely on the federal government. all of those states are led by republican governors. cbs news has learned that secretary of defense leon panetta has signed two orders for aircraft missiles to go to turkey. four will accompany to defend against rocketh atangs against syria. and for the first time he spoke about intelligence that led to concerns that the assad regime was considering using chemical forces. panetta said there were clear indications that they were assembling weapons for using deadly sarin gas. >> panetta said the intelligence leveled off and there are no new indications that assad is planning to take the next step. tomorrow the egyptians will begin voting on a new constitution. last night in cairo supporters and opponents of morsi fought in the streets. the new constitution was written by morsi's islamist supporters. it will divide the nation, but the measure is expected to pass. back in this country southern california's in store for another day of high tides and flooding. the so-called king tides are the highest tides of the year formed by the alignment of the sun, moon, and architect. low-lying communities along the pacific coast highway were flooded. in some areas the tide reached seven feet. we'll take a quick break on a friday. when we come back, political in-fighting. a brawl breaks out for a second day on the floor of the parliament. this is the "morning news." ing news. for months, i had this deep pain all over my body. it just wouldn't go away. my doctor diagnosed it as fibromyalgia, thought to be the result of overactive nerves that cause chronic widespread pain. lyrica is believed to calm these nerves. i learned lyrica can provide significant relief from fibromyalgia pain. and for some people, it can work in as early as the first week of treatment. so now i can plan my days and accomplish more. lyrica is not for everyone. lyrica may cause serious allergic reactions or suicidal thoughts or actions. tell your doctor right away if you have these, new or worsening depression, or unusual changes in mood or behavior, or any swelling or affected breathing or skin, or changes in eyesight, including blurry vision or muscle pain with fever or tired feeling. common side effects are dizziness, sleepiness, weight gain, and swelling of hands, legs and feet. don't drink alcohol while taking lyrica. don't drive or use machinery until you know how lyrica affects you. with less pain, i'm feeling better now that i've found lyrica. ask your doctor if lyrica is right for your fibromyalgia pain. democracy can be messing. i call this democracy in action. on thursday a fight broke out in ukraine's newly elected parliament as it did the day before. opposition deputies physically tried to block a vote over the election of a parliamentary official on thursday. it did not work. the man ended up getting the job anyway. fiscal cliff, maybe there's an idea. "cbs moneywatch" time now on a friday. and if you need a cab in new york city, there may soon be an app for that. erica ferrari here in new york with that. erica, good morning to you. good morning, terrell. a new report showing growth in china's manufacturing sector lifted most asian stocks. hong kong's hang seng gained more than half a percent. tock owe's nikkei shed a fraction. concerned about washington's fiscal talks pushed wall street stocks lower. the dow finished down 74 points on thursday. the nasdaq lost 21 points. swiss bank ubs is said to be in talks to pay a $1 billion fine to settle allegations of rigging a key interest rate benchmark. ubs is accused of manipulating the libor to boost trading profits. the rate affects trillions of dollars and loans including mortgage rates. barclays paid a $450 million fine to settle similar allegations last june. consumers are spending more, but the results are mixed for retailers. the commerce department said on thursday that retail sales increased 0.3 in the month of november from the month before. the increase is due in part to hurricane rebuilding in the northeast. the report says online shopping surged, but department store sales declined. in new york, raising your arm in the middle of the street and yelling "taxi" may soon be passe. the new way to get a cab, maybe with a smartphone app that's being tested. the passenger would use the app to request a ride. the first cab driver who responds to the call from their cell phone gets the ride. similar programs are in use in other cities. and you might not know the name, but you have seen unique label that norman woodland developed with another engineer. the rectangle found on just about every product we buy. they got a patent for their invention 60 years ago, but the technology to use the bar code was not developed until 1974. norman woodland was 91 years old. terrell? >> erica ferrari here in new york. thank you so much. coming up next, your friday morning weather and in sports, he may have gotten a high risk but a high reward. baseball star josh hamilton inks a massive free agent deal. free agent deal. (all) the gulf! it doesn't matter which of our great states folks visit. mississippi, alabama, louisiana or florida, they're gonna love it. shaul, your alabama hospitality is incredible. thanks, karen. love your mississippi outdoors. i vote for your florida beaches, dawn. bill, this louisiana seafood is delicious. we're having such a great year on the gulf, we've decided to put aside our rivalry. now is the perfect time to visit anyone of our states. the beaches and waters couldn't be more beautiful. take a boat ride, go fishing or just lay in the sun. we've got coastline to explore and wildlife to photograph. and there's world class dining with our world famous seafood. so for a great vacation this year, come to the gulf. its all fabulous but i give florida the edge. right after mississippi. you mean alabama. say louisiana or there's no dessert. this invitation is brought to you by bp and all of us who call the gulf home. here's a look at the weather here's a look at the weather in some cities around the country. partly sunny in miami, 80 degrees. morning mist and showers in dallas, 60. mostly misty in l.a. 63 degrees. let's check the national forecast. the powerful storm will bring rain into washington state and northern arizona and southwest colorado. showers are likely for the east coast of florida. otherwise the south will be dry and warm for the most part. to the northeast will be sunny and dry. the mideast, midwest will be dry, but late-day showers are expected across the central plains. in sports this morning, baseball's most coveted free agent is switching teams and heading for a division rival. los angeles angels signed josh hamilton to a five-year, $125 million contract. hamilton has spent the last five seasons with the texas rangers. in that time he's hit 142 hom r runs and won the american league mvp. some have called hamilton a risky signing. earlier in his career he struggled with drug and alcohol addiction. last year they handed albert pujols a ten-year $240 million deal. cincinnati bengals are pushing to make the playoffs for just the fourth time since 1990. the philadelphia eagles are staggering to the end of the season. nothing seems to be going right for philly this year. one of the bengals' helmets got stuck on a face mask. eagles leading the bengals in the second half, and then the wheels come off. an andy dalton touchdown run. cincinnati gets the brown fumbles the ball, and the eagles brings back a score. cincinnati rips off 24 straight points to win this one, 34-13. in the nba the red-hot knicks beat the ice cold lakers in new york city. carmelo anthony dominating in the first half, scores 22 points in the first quarter and 30 in his first 23 minutes of action, and then this happens. take a look. melo takes a hard foul going to the rim. he injuries his ankle, would not come back. by that point, the knicks were up big. they go on to win it, 116-107. the feds are weighing in on the nhl at the highest level. president obama even had a message for both sides. >> if you can figure out how to spread out a bunch of revenue you're bringing in, but do right by the people who support you, and, you know, i shouldn't have to be involved with a -- in a dispute between really wealthy players and even wealthier owners. >> this is the third lockout under commissioner gary bettman. this latest work stoppage has wiped out 43% of the nhl's schedule. when we come back, another look at this morning's top stories, and improving the student body. a look at how one school is fighting the growing problem of obesity. the flames are out... but c say... a threat remains. plus: personal police escort a bay area bart station. the push to keep you safe this holiday season. and stepping aside. preside obama's top pick for secrety of state is out of the runn why u-n ambassador susan ri says she had to withdraw her name. join us for cbs 5 eyewitness news this morning... beginng at 4:30. ,,,, here's a look at here's look at the weather. washington, 55 degrees. partly sunny in st. louis, 54. part showers denver, 44, and seattle, 43 degrees. top stories now on a friday morning. president obama and speaker john boehner met last night at the white house to discuss the fiscal cliff. it was their second meeting in five days. the discussion was described as frank, but no progress was reported. and u.n. ambassador susan rice says she withdrew as a candidate for secretary of state because it was the best thing for the country. rice has been under heavy criticism before republicans for an official explanation for the attack on the u.s. consulate in libya. a new study in the medical journey suggests that obesity is killing three times as many people around the world as malnutrition. in missouri one high school looked at the problem of overweight kids and is doing something about it. seth doan reports. >> hi, brandy, how are you? >> reporter: spend a minute in the nurse's office at truman high school in independence, missouri, and you'll immediately notice something troubling. what problems are you seeing? >> we see type 2 diabetes, high blood pressure, people with joint pains, arthritis, stress, anxiety, depression from being above a healthy weight. >> reporter: the school nurse told us that 40% of students at truman high were overweight or obese. two years ago she was part of a districtwide program to test students' body fat. >> it's very concerning to see that they're dealing with adult illnesses at such a young age, and you just worry about where they're going to be in the future. >> we have a major issue with kids because of what they're eating, what they're not eating, the lack of exercise. this is a crisis in our country. >> reporter: a crisis that school superintendent jim hinson saw was undermining his school in absenteeism and lower test scores. he attacks the problem with mandatory nutrition classes in classes k through 12. now they record students' physical level and in the cafeteria chicken that was fried is now baked and salads are always on the menu. >> toffee, how are you today? >> i didn't sleep that well last night. >> reporter: 17-year-old suffers from the same weight-induced asthma that killed her father. >> i think surely but slowly the message will hit home and kids will start eating healthier, but like it's a team thing. like you can't do it by yourself. it's just so easy to fall back. >> reporter: in the last year she's made a start, losing 9 pounds so far. >> if kids can't be healthy, they can't be successful. so if we give them the tools they need in education, they can take it home. >> reporter: for the first time in history, the life expectancy of kids is less than ours. that has to change. >> reporter: at the district's grade schools, test scores are up and asthma cases are down and at truman high obesity rates have dropped 10% of over the last ten years. the changes they've made here are showing results. seth doan, cbs news, independence, missouri. president obama celebrated hanukkah at the white house. he and the first lady held a reception last night. the sixth evening of the festival of lights. it's from the temple in long beach, new york. the temple was heavily damaged by hurricane sandy. i'm terrell brown in new york. this is this "cbs morning news." hurricane sandy. i'm terrell brown in new york. this is this "cbs morning news." ♪ [ male announcer ] with free package pickup from the u.s. postal service the holidays are easy. visit usps.com. pay, print, and have it picked up for free before december 20h for delivery in time for the holidays. you can even give us special instructions on where to find it. free package pickup. from the u.s. postal service. because it's nice to have an extra pair of hands around for the holidays. across spain thursday, coordinated demonstrations were head in dozens of cities to protest cuts in education. it's part of austerity measures aimed at lifting the country out of diet dep. spain's recession is hurting the theater business, too, but as mark phillips reports, one owner found a way to sell tickets. >> reporter: other places, theatrical productions may be about drama and song. in spain right now, though, they're also about vegetables, specifically -- >> carrots. carrots. >> reporter: carrots. the humble root which may determine whether kym marsh's theater in the town near barcelona lives or dies and a lot of others too. why? because the spanish government has recently just about tripled the sales tax on theater tickets and kym fears that no one would ever fill these seats, until he made a discovery whiles out shopping. the tax on carrots is 4%. >> 4%, yes. >> reporter: the tax on theater tickets -- >> 21%. >> reporter: 21%. kym marsh did the math. food for the body, 4% tax. food for the soul, 21%. there had to be a way to bridge the gap. there was. kym doesn't sell tickets now. he sells carrots, expensive ones. >> 15 euros, one carrot. >> 15 euros, one carrot. >> yes >> 17 bucks for the carrot, you get the ticket for free. >> free. >> reporter: for every carrot you buy, you get a free ticket. >> okay. see? >> reporter: it's not really a laughing matter. theaters, movie houses around the country are all being hit by the new tax and are looking seriously at the carrot caper. why should they be hit, they ask, when sports entertainment like soccer is still taxed as a much lower rate. the tax man has. challenged the carrot loophole yet. if he does, kym has another idea. >> potatoes. >> reporter: on second thought, though, in a theater, maybe not. >> reporter: if they don't like the show, they can throw them. spain needs some thinking in getting out of this economic mess. kym marsh is providing some. mark phillips, cbs news, spain. coming up on your local news after "cbs this morning," more on susan rice dropping out of the running for secretary of state. we'll get reaction from madeleine albright. plus, a company investing big by paying for all of their employees' college education. and "vanity fair" photographer jonathan becker looks back on 30 years of the magazine's photos, and also some tips for buying a new tv. that and more coming up a little later on "cbs this morning." that will do it for the "morning news" this friday. friday. happy friday. appreciate you watching. i'm terrell brown in new york. take care, everybody. have a great weekend. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >> your realtime captioner: linda marie macdonald hi, everyone and good morning. friday is finally here! it's december 14. she's smiling. i'm frank mallicoat. >> i'm michelle griego. time now is just about 4:30. lawrence, did you hear how frank said "friday "? >> friday!! exciting folks! you know, we have some cold weather out there now. some frost advisories up plus the possibility of some rain. we will talk about that and your weekend forecast coming up. >> that's right. and it is the friday morning commute. so far things are "friday light," we can't say it enough. so far, so good across the golden gate bridge. headlights making their way into san francisco. we just checked in with caltrans. there's still a lot of areas of overnight roadwork out there so we'll show you where the slow spots are coming up in a few minutes. we begin with some developing news. a strong earthquake in the ocean off baja, california. it happened at 2:36 this morning not long ago. the usgs says it was a 6.4 quake. thousands of people felt it near the us-mexican border but

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san diego north into l.a. county. >> southern california is in store for another day of high tides and flooding. the so-called king tides are formed by the alignment of the sun, moon and earth. this happens once every 30 years. >> former south african president nelson mandela is said to be making progress as he battles a lung infection. it started with trash talking and ended with gunfire. surveillance cameras capture a shooting wounding two people. >> all that -- >> okay. we need the jaws of life. >> final in philadelphia, 34-13 cincinnati. >> the houston rockets' latest effort to sing is pretty embarrassing. ♪ and dradle i shall -- >> how do i even know you're a nun? you don't have the thing on. >> i know, i know but i have my medal on. >> is that your nun badge? >> that's my nun badge. >> barbara walters most fascinating person of the year is disgraced cia former director david petraeus. >> i was thinking if this guy was a little less fascinating, he'd probably still have his job. captioning funded by cbs welcome to welcome to "cbs this morning." susan rice will not be the new secretary of state. she was president obama's top choice to replace hillary clinton. yesterday she withdrew her name from consideration. >> that follows months of republican criticism over her first response to the attack that killed the u.s. ambassador to libya. margaret brennan is at the state department. margaret, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, norah and charlie. cbs news has learned susan rice privately began expressing doubts about her nomination to friends this week saying the attacks had reached a fevered pitch. then yesterday she had a phone conversation with president obama and withdrew her name from consideration as secretary of state. >> i would have been very honored to serve in that job, just as i'm delighted to do what i'm doing. but yes, sure how can you not want to in my field serve at the highest possible level? >> reporter: last night u.n. ambassador susan rice explained why she asked president obama not to consider her for secretary of state. in an op-ed she wrote, quote, a national security appointment, much less a potential one, should never be turned into a political football. there are far bigger issues at stake. on twitter she posted those of you who know me know that i'm a fighter, but not at the cost of what's right for our country. >> she's not qualified. anyone who goes on national television in defiance of the facts five days later, we're all responsible for what we say and what we do. >> reporter: rice became the center of a political firestorm after doing a string of interviews five days after the september attacks on the u.s. consulate in benghazi. she described the assault as the result of spontaneous protests not premeditated. days later, intelligence officials publicly labeled it an act of terror. republican senators led by john mccain accused rice of misleading the american people. president obama came to her defense. >> when they go after the u.n. ambassador apparently because they think she's an easy target then they have got a problem with me. >> reporter: late yesterday, the president said he wasn't disappointed by rice's decision. >> susan is going to continue to be an outstanding u.s. ambassador to the united nations. i hadn't made a decision about who would be my next secretary of state. there's no doubt that susan was qualified. there are other people who are qualified as well. >> reporter: senator john kerry is rumored to be the new front runner for secretary of state. he chairs the committee that would have confirmed rice if she had been nominated. it's not clear what's next for her or whether she'll take a new job in the administration. susan rice meets this afternoon with president obama. >> margaret brennan, thank you. with us former secretary of state madelineeine albright. she used to be rice's boss at the state department. welcome. >> very good to be with you. >> do you believe even though susan rice had not been nominated that this became a political suicide -- not suicide, but assassination? >> i think it was very political and sad and i think does not speak well for those who attacked her. i've known susan since she was 4 years old. i think she's a remarkable person who has served our country in a number of different posts. she was assistant secretary for africa when i was secretary of state. i think she's done an amazing job at the united nations making very clear what america national interests are, and i think she would have been a great secretary of state. she will continue to work at the u.n., where her credibility is very high and she's very close to the president. >> would it have been possible for her to overcome the objections raised by senator mccain and others? >> i have no way of knowing. i think that she and the president must have made a judgment -- and she said it that it was a distraction. and there are an awful lot of things going on. and i -- i'm really sorry that this has happened because she would have been great, and she's wonderful and she doesn't deserve as a human being, she does not deserve the attacks that were made upon her that were false. it was really outrageous. >> first she was sent out on the sunday talk shows to talk about something that was really not in her purview, that was really secretary clinton's responsibility about what happened in libya. and then number two, she was never even nominated to be secretary of state and she's withdrawing her name. did she get hung out there by the white house? >> let me just say i think we all know how choices for the sunday shows are made. when i was ambassador at the u.n., i would go on and talk about different things so i would not frame it the way you had. i think that -- it's very hard to figure out what happened here, as to why these very personal attacks. and she had not been nominated. and i think that there was just a kind of avalanche. i find it really sad. i love washington and i just don't like what has happened at this point. it's just very unpleasant and sad. and something that a very very good public servant deserves or nobody deserves frankly. >> one of the big challenges for the next secretary of state will be syria and our own mccormick spoke with secretary panetta and learned he is sending two missile batteries to turkey including 400 members of the u.s. military to help. does that signal a greater u.s. military involvement? >> what it signals is turkey is a member of nato. i have just come from turturkey. it has very serious issues with the number of refugees coming in. as a nato member we are really have to and want to and are committed to defending turkey so i think it is a 98nato issue and shows a sign we do not want the problems in syria to spread outside the borders. >> if in fact they begin to move chemical weapons, what should the united states and turkey and other country do so? >> people are very concerned about the use of the chemical weapons and also lack of control over them. and i think that there again, there will be -- president obama has made very clear that that is a line. and i think that there probably will be nato looking at it in a variety of -- >> looking at it meaning? >> more deterngtrents and threats about what could be done. but it is a very serious issue, very serious, because the father of bashar al assad did use chemical weapons against his people. i think this is where the international community would have to do something about it. >> secretary madeleine albright good to see you. thank you for being here. >> very good to be with you. happy holidays. >> happy holidays. we want to now turn to the fiscal cliff where the deadline is now 18 days away. president obama and house speaker john boehner held a white house meeting on thursday. they did not reach an agreement, and now there are signs that any deal could be small and limited. bill plante is at the white house. bill, good morning. >> reporter: good morning. and good morning out west. the president and the speaker met for almost an hour last evening and that will be the main topic of today's white house briefing in a couple of hours. even though it's clear that the two men didn't agree last night on much of anything. the speaker left the capitol last night planning to head home to ohio for the weekend. his meeting with the president came after a day when the two sides couldn't even agree on how to address the problem. >> i've been pushing all year for us to address this problem. but here we are at the 11th hour and the president still isn't serious about dealing with this issue right here. it's this issue. spending. >> republicans need to accept the fact that rates will go up on the top 2%. and that we should extend tax cuts for the remaining 98%. >> reporter: in an interview with cbs minneapolis station wcco, president obama sounded an optimistic note. >> i remain hopeful that we can get this resolved. it shouldn't be hard to get resolved. >> reporter: but the president repeated his demand that republicans must allow tax cuts to expire for the top 2% of u.s. households. >> the big problem right now is is that republicans in the house are resistant to the idea of the wealthiest americans paying higher tax rates. >> reporter: despite some voices in the republican party now saying that they may have to accept tax increases on top earners, the speaker remains publicly adamant that tax hikes are out of the question. >> if we were to do what the president is asking for, some 700,000 jobs would be at risk. it's as simple as that. washington has a spending problem. it can't be fixed with tax increases alone. >> reporter: if there is no progress in the next few days there's almost no chance that anything can get done before christmas. and very little chance to do anything before the end of the year. but the speaker's office and the white house say discussions will continue. as one of the speaker's staff put it there's cell phone service in ohio. norah, charlie. >> all right, there's still cell phones. bill plante, thank you. let's go to cbs news political director john dickerson. john, good morning. >> good morning. >> is the white house acting like it has all the cards? >> they definitely are. they are adamant on this question of tax rates and also on this question of the debt limit. next year the fight or coming fight about whether congress is going to raise the debt limit. the white house says they are very much against having that fight again. that's another big part of this deal. but the question for the president is you know there are some other issues here. they think the economy is poised and ready to really rebound and that's one of the pressures on getting a deal that's a pressure on the white house. if the president can get this out of the way the economy can get moving again, that's a great legacy for him if he can say the economy turned around. also you can imagine wanting to really get this out of the way before the inauguration so that his second term doesn't look like it's stuck in the same position as the end of his first term was. >> so how do they plan to get boehner to blink? >> boy, it's hard. i mean they want boehner to blink on this tax question. now, how is he going to do that? if they can give him enough on the spending side on entitlements. but the problem the white house says, we're not going to keep offering up spending reductions entitlement cuts that our liberals will not like if you just keep pocketing them and saying okay we'll take that and then not change our position on raising rates. boehner has got to go first on this question of raising rates. >> but has the president said to john boehner if in fact we get the rates, i will do these spending cuts and recommend these spending cuts? has he made that clear to john boehner so that john boehner can go to his caucus and say this is what we'll get if we agree to go -- allow these rates to raise? >> it's done in hints and it's done in instanttimations. yes, whether it's raising the eligibility age for medicare means testing medicare even some possible movement on the question of the consumer price index in terms of social security, which the white house publicly has ruled out. they have said we are open to these possibilities maybe if you're going to move in a big way on rates. but they're interconnected. and so these discussions that are going on in private, that if they were ever made public would evaporate. they are going on. but the white house is not offering too much if the republicans are not going to move on these tax rates. >> it is incredible. >> you go first. no, no you go. >> it's like a broken record. they have nobody about this for some time and still can't come to an agreement. john dickerson, thank you so much. bob schieffer will have the latest on "face the nation." we have some breaking news from california this morning. a strong earthquake struck overnight off the pacific coast. >> the u.s. geological survey has revised the strength of that quake to 6.3 magnitude. so far there are no reports of damage. we'll have more on this story throughout the morning. there are reports in south africa that nelson mandela could get out of the hospital at any time. he was admitted a week ago for treatment. mark phillips is in johannesburg, south africa. mark, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, charlie. good morning norah. i wish i could be more definite about nelson mandela's condition, but it has been shrouded in state secrecy until now and, frankly, this morning the confusion is moving almost into farce. there was a report this morning that after six days of treatment for this lung infection that the government says he has he might be ready to be sent home. the question is from where. all week we've been told that he was in a number one military hospital a military hospital in pretoria. this was confirmed by a government minister the defense minister, who claims to have visited him there. the government itself said it never confirmed he was there and now rumors have circulated that in fact he's been in another hospital, a heart hospital in pretoria all week. this morning a cavalcade of cars left the heart hospital people thinking this was the waited-for release. where did it go? it went back to the military hospital. so at this stage we don't know exactly where mandela has improved enough to go home and we don't know, frankly, which of those two hospitals he's in. norah, charlie. >> all right, mark phillips very interesting, thank you. and today demonstrations are expected in egypt the day before a key vote on the country's future. as allen pizzey reports from cairo, the vote on the constitution has become a referendum on egypt's islamic president, mohamed morsi. >> reporter: both sides of the egyptian political divide plan major marches and rallies this morning. government supporters are calling a yes vote on the referendum a vote for islam. the opposition is fragmented and far less organized and decided only a few days ago to vote no rather than boycott the ballot. the new constitution was drafted by the ruling islamist party and its hard-line political allies. the mainly secular opposition says the 63-page document does not represent all of egypt's 83 million people and tramples on the rights of minorities such as christians. a major problem is a lack of monitors. a significant number of judges have refused to supervisor the 13,000 polling stations so the voting will have to be held over two days first in major cities an then in the countryside. many egyptians are simply growing weary after two years of political turmoil. adding to their woes is the effect on the economy. the tourism industry has been hard-hit and the prospects of attracting foreign investment in other sectors is fast becoming a distant dream. the $4.8 billion loan from the international monetary fund has been held back pending political developments. but the biggest fear of all is more violence, which remains a very real possibility. some commentators here are saying egypt is teetering on the brink of what amounts to a virtual civil war. i'm allen pizzey in cairo. it is time to show you some of this morning's headlines from around the globe. britain's "guardian" says the nurse at the heart of the phone hoax left three letters before she died. three days earlier she sent a prank call from an australian radio station to the ward where the dutchess of cambridge was being treated. the "chicago tribune" says a man died after falling down a hotel smoke tack. nicholas wieme climbed to the roof of the intercontinental hotel wednesday evening to take photos. we still don't know why he fell down the smokestack. he was pulled out in an elaborate rescue but later died. the "miami herald" says the florida supreme court has struck down a law against loud music in cars. the law applied to music that you could hear 25 feet away. the justices called the law unconstitutional and an unreasonable restriction on freedom of expression. >> i like loud music in the car. and "the wall street journal" says christmas tree sales are up. 27% of u.s. households reported buying a real tree l tree last year the highest since the economic downturn. the average tree costs $34.87. and southern california faces another round of high tides and flooding today. so-called king tides occur when the earth, moon and sun are aligned. that increases the pull of gravity on the ocean. yesterday's tides were unusually high. seven feet in some areas, flooding houses and streets all right. nora, cold start to the day but what a neat sunrise. a lot of clouds. we have seen some scattered showers. what a beautiful start to the day. as it looks like we are going to keep things a little unsettled and chilly, you can see some showers out toward the coastline but most of that is actually going to stay off the coast today. in the meantime, though, the temperatures are staying on the chilly side. 30s and 40s right now. by the afternoon, highs only going to be only in the 40s and 50s. this national weather report sponsored by target. dream big, save bigger. hundreds of dangerous drug offenders could soon be on the streets of massachusetts. some prisons have already been set free and rearrested. police fear it's just the beginning. this year we'll show you why the alleged crimes of a chemist could lead to a crime wave. and salvage crews are trying to refloat the "costa concordia" cruise ship. it is a gigantic task. >> what you see is only 35%, so 65% is underneath. >> "60 minutes" takes us out to the site of the wreck on "cbs this morning." >> announcer: this portion of "cbs this morning" sponsored by toys "r" us. sales are at an all-time low! but kissing is at an all-time high! i want answers! oh. right. kay. 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>> i'm not sure exactly what that is. >> why are you worried? >> because you have a worried look on your face so i think i should be wor eyed. >> it's not good! i know that. >> well, the fiscal cliff i know is mr. huxtable. that's the only one i know. >> we're going to give him half credit. >> i hope that was selectively edited. >> that was the best answer cliff huxtable. if you don't know what the fiscal cliff is you'll learn about it the next 18 days we have left. welcome back, everybody, to "cbs this morning." now to this story. massachusetts authorities are warning of a possible crime wave because of a scandal in a state crime lab. this is an incredible story. hundreds of convictions have been thrown out because evidence was probably tainted. >> already at least eight defendants who were released have been rearrested on new charges. mark strassmann looks at the lone chemist who allegedly triggered it all. >> reporter: annie dookhan, allegedly tampered with evidence and the integrity of the state's entire criminal justice system. attorney general martha coakley. >> the allegation that she misread the results or faked results or both? >> the implication is based upon our investigation is that she faked the results. >> reporter: over nine years, dookhan tested more than 60,000 drug samples and gave expert testimony in court. but investigators say test results used as evidence in 34,000 drug cases she worked on is now suspect. 1100 convicted criminals may have to go free. >> it's incalculable for the harm that it's done to the integrity of the criminal justice system. while we don't like some of these guys getting released that's what the law requires. >> reporter: dookhan lied about having a master's degree in chemistry, lied in court as an expert witness and allegedly lied in the lab, mishandling evidence and forging signatures. >> she's been described as a rogue chemist. what does that mean? >> she developed a practice of what we call dry labbing, of substituting drugs that she knew would test positive for the drug she was looking for. >> reporter: co-workers nicknamed her superwoman because her caseload was three times higher than average. but state police took over the lab last august and discovered widespread problems. dookhan told investigators she acted alone. i messed up. i messed up bad. it's my fault. no one can explain why she did it. but 160 convicted criminals have already been freed, and local police are worried about a crime wave if hundreds more have to be released. >> all of our local police chiefs can and should be worried about that but we're determined to get it right here in massachusetts. we have to make sure the public has a sense that the system works. >> reporter: dookhan could be indicted for obstruction of justice in the next week. she faces 20 years in prison. for "cbs this morning" mark strassmann boston. john mills, a former deputy police commissioner in new york and los angeles. here's the question how are they going to absorb all of these people? >> well you've got a thousand people who are going to be released from state prisons up in massachusetts, but about 600 of those are coming right back to boston. now, one might argue, well if the evidence is fake what's the problem. the problem is most of them had rap sheets as long as both of our arms put together so this probably wasn't their first rodeo. the boston p.d. has put together kind of a very clever strategy to welcome them home. >> well, this is just incredible. how is she able to operate like this so many years. they called her superwoman she was faster than anyone else. didn't they suspect she might be doing a lousy job? >> i think what they found is the ultimate no-brainer. which is when you see a pattern like that it's a leadership issue, which is who was checking on the anomalies like that. i want to get back to boston for a second because when you're going to get that many bad guys coming back in ed davis, who's the police commissioner up there, who's about 6'6" and 3 1/2 feet wide. i don't know why they have cops they could just have him walk around the neighborhood and criminals would run. but he sat down and said we're going to strategize this. and he said now let's go visit all of these guys in jail. they went and visited all 600 of them and got two key messages. one, welcome back to society. we're waiting for you to come home. we have a list of services jobs vocational housing, and we want you to avail yourselves. plan b is if you go back to the life of dealing drugs or shooting up the neighborhood, we also have a list of services which means we're going to put you right back here and we're going to be watching you. so they have gotten massive amounts of overtime for their narcotics and gangs team and they have really prepared for this so that they don't feel a bump in crime. that's what they're hoping. >> is your voice different this morning? >> i have a little cold charlie. but nobody likes to be sick. but when you're on television it kind of gives you that voice of god thing so you use it. >> and the satorial splendor is noticeable too. >> is that cashmere? >> this is camel hair. i had to chase a camel about six blocks to get this. >> it may be a little too busy to quote james. >> james is very nice but just not together. that's our wardrobe guy. >> thanks for brightening our morning with your style. we love it. it's very nice. >> it was worth a try. >> john miller thank you. and the "costa concordia" luxury liner made headlines when it became the biggest passenger ship to capsize. this sunday on "60 minutes" lesley stahl takes us inside the massive salvage operation to get that ship off the bottom. >> reporter: the "costa concordia" is a rusting carcass, sitting precariously on two underwater mountain peaks. the swimming pools and jacuzzis where passengers sun bathed and sipped cocktails now empty and askew. a clock remains frozen in time marking the hour and minute when the ship lost power. and below ghostly vestages of the shippest contents litter the ocean's floor in what the authorities have named an official crime scene. 30 people died two are still missing. >> welcome on board. >> thank you. >> reporter: nick sloan from south africa is the senior salvage master. he took us out to the wreck site. >> how big is that ship? >> she's huge. what you see at the moment is only about 35% of it so 65% underneath. it's like an iceberg. >> reporter: now the plan is to roll the 60,000-ton ship in one piece onto an underwater platform, raise it and then float it away so it can be cut up for scrap. >> so you're planning to rotate a ship that weighs 60,000 tons? >> yeah yeah. >> so let me see. this is the ship. you have to do it like this? the whole thing together at once creeking. >> three football fields long. >> three football fields long? >> yeah. rotate it all at the same time. >> reporter: it sounds like an experiment in defying the laws of physics. >> incredible. incredible story. >> this is why you want to be a journalist just to go do these kinds of stories. >> and lessley is the bit. you can watch lesley stahl's full report on the salvage operation this sunday night on "60 minutes" here on cbs. and imagine going through college or even getting a master's degree and your company pays for it all. we'll show you how united technology's billion dollar investment is paying off. a cool story next on "cbs this morning." ♪ target redcard... ♪ ♪ target redcard... ♪ ♪ save 5% and get...♪ ♪ free shipping! ♪ ♪ it's on. hit the sale. ♪ ♪ hallelujah. grab your redcard. ♪ ♪ hallelujah! ♪ [ male announcer ] this is bob a regular guy with an irregular heartbeat. the usual, bob? 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>> i don't know. >> you don't even know? >> i don't know. i don't know. >> because you never saw a bill for it? >> exactly. >> reporter: business development manager yelitza forte is part of the first generation of her family to go to college. she got her mba without paying a dime. >> my parents could not believe it. you have to find friends. >> reporter: at the nearby plant also owned by united tech dan ward works on jet engines. he got a master's in mechanical engineer. >> the company gives you paid time off in order to go to classes or study for that final. >> you don't have to work before your finals? >> that's right. >> reporter: there's no rule that mandates employees stay after getting their degree. but almost no one leaves the company. and the focus is on learning for learning sake. >> does it matter what they study? >> they're allowed to pick whatever discipline they want to go in. >> reporter: kamilah hall works for a subsidiary in tennessee. a few years ago she got a management degree, but now she's inspired to go for something completely different. >> this time i've decided to go to seminary so i'm getting a master's of arts in religious studies. >> reporter: she says her new degree will help her at church but she thinks it's already paying off at work too. >> i feel like i've grown a lot and i'm more patient. >> reporter: chenevert believes it's about building a future that's better than the present. >> there's three million jobs that go unfilled as we speak because there's not the right match of people with the right skill to fill these jobs and it's a tragedy. >> reporter: one employee and one college degree at a time united technologies seems to be turning that tragedy into triumph. now, there are other companies which are also investing in their employees, helping to pay for school, from google to u.p.s. to procter & gamble. many major corporations have some sort of reimbursement plan. but the national association of independent colleges and universities says that united technologies has the most generous program of all, and they'd like to see it become a model for the rest of the country. >> that's a great story. so do they owe anything back to the company after they get a free education? 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white house is not offering too much if the republicans won't move on the tax rate. >> a strong earthquake struck overnight off the pacific coast. >> so far there are no reports of the image. >> i which i could be more definite about nelson mandela's conditions. it's been shrouded in secrecy. the confusion is moving. salvage crews are trying to refloat the costa concordia cruise ship. >> what you see is only 35% of it. 65% is underneath. >> is that cashmere? >> this is camel here. i had to chase a camel for about six blocks to get it. james has already said it's very nice, but just not together. i'm charlie rose with gayle king and norah o'donnell. susan rice says withdrawing from consideration to be secretary of state is the best thing for the country. >> she stepped aside following blistering republican criticism which started just days after the killing of the u.s. ambassador to libya. margaret brennan is at the state department. >> cbs news has learned that susan rice privately began to express doubts about her nomination to friends this week saying the attacks had reached a fevered pitch. yesterday she had a phone conversation with the president and withdrew her name from the running for secretary of state. on twitter she posted quote, those of you who know me that i'm a fighter, but not at the cost of what's right for our country. the new front-runner for secretary of state is rumored to be senator john kerry, though national security adviser tom donelan is also in the running. this afternoon susan rice heads to the white house to meet with president obama. it's not clear whether she will be returning here to washington for a new job in the administration. for "cbs this morning," margaret brennan at the state department. for the second time in five days president obama met with house speaker john boehner to work on a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. last night's meeting produced no apparent progress. bill plante is at the white house. bill, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, norah. the speaker heads home to ohio for the weekend after meeting with the president for almost an hour. both sides called the encounter frank which usually means they didn't agree on much of anything. however, administration officials say that treasury secretary tim geithner was also there. that could be a good sign. he hasn't been in previous meetings. the white house continues to insist on the president's plan of $1.4 trillion in new taxes. the president did say in an interview that he remains hopeful. the speaker, despite some voices in the republican party now saying that they may have to accept a tax increase remains publicly adamant that tax hikes are simply out of the question and off the table. if there is no progress in the next few days there's almost no chance that anything can get done before christmas and very little chance to do anything before the end of the year. norah, charlie, gayle. >> bill plante thanks. we have breaking news this morning of a school shooting in connecticut. minutes ago police entered the sandy hook elementary school in newtown. a photo shows students being led out of school by adults. the report is the shooter is dead. other reports say the school principal may have been shot. south carolina needs a new senator. the governor has chosen five possible candidates. she could make history by picking the first black or female senator. nancy cordes looks at one surprising name of the list the former first lady. >> jenny sanford's turn in the national spotlight began with the personal failing of her husband, governor mark sanford. >> i've been unfaithful to my wife. >> reporter: what made jenny sanford stand apart was that she did not stand by herman. at that press conference or in the days that followed as she was asked routinely about their future. >> his career right now is the least of my concerns. my important job right now is our children. >> reporter: sanford divorced her husband, wrote a memoir and spoke openly about her ordeal. she never showed an interest in entering politics herself which is why many were surprised when her name appeared on governor nikki haley's short list for senator jim demint who is vacating his seat. >> they know her as governor sanford's ex-wife. they don't really know her. so inasmuch as people think they know jenny sanford, at the end of the day, politically she's a wildcard. >> reporter: nick mulvaney is a south carolina congressman. >> i don't know much about her. of all the folks on the list i know least about her. >> reporter: sanford is an accomplished professional in her own right. she worked for a wall street investment firm before moving to south carolina with her then husband mark. she even ran his campaigns for governor, all while raising four sons. but when asked by a college tv station last year if she would ever run herself, sanford said this. >> i do believe it's very important for people to be involved in politics. i think we need good people involved now more than ever but it's actually taken a real toll on my family obviously for obvious reasons. i think i'm pretty much finished with politics. >> reporter: today sanford has a different take and she says south carolina's senate seat would be hard to turn down. for "cbs this morning," nancy cordes capitol hill. >> i think it would be an incredible turn of events to see her take that senate seat. it's not clear she wants it. as she said it would be hard to turn down. >> i think it would be poetic justice if she wants it. if she wants it and she's qualified -- >> sounds like she's qualified after being a part of his administration. >> but if she's interested. that's what i want to know. from a political shift to a seismic shift, an earthquake struck the southern california coasterly this morning. the 6.3 magnitude quake hit 163 miles offshore. avalon, california was the nearest town. there are no reports of damage. here is a question. what do you do if you're basketball royalty and the team you own is having trouble? if you're michael jordan you lays up your s shoes and show those kids how it's done. jordan was on the practice floor this week to help his charlotte bobcats work on shot selection, foot work and defense. jordan even played some one-on-one with the bobcats players. go michael. they say at 49 he's still got it. but he may need to work as a teacher. atlanta beat the bobcats last night, their tenth loss in a row. can you imagine how intimidating that would be. buying a tv used to be oh so simple. remember the good old days you just choose a size and a style. now you have hundreds of options and additions. we'll show you what you need to know when you go shopping this holiday season here on "cbs this morning." we'll be right back. maybe you can be there; maybe you can't. when you have migraines with fifteen or more headache days a month, you miss out on your life. you may have chronic migraine. go to mychronicmigraine.com to find a 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>> i can't remember. >> you killed my father. a six-fingered man killed his father. >> he now stars on the smash hit "homeland." we'll talk about the show's finale and his great career in film. that's tomorrow. >> i love cbs saturday morning and i love mandy patinkin. speaking of finales, many people think the world will end next friday when the mayan calendar ends. that's why we're having a big blowout tonight. >> just in case. >> just in case. >> we'll show you how some folks are making a profit from prophesy next on "cbs this morning." >> announcer: this portion of "cbs this morning" sponsored by lifestyle lift. find out how you can light up your life. if you're watching this video, it means one thing. the world didn't end yesterday. according to media reports of an ancient mayan prophesy the world was supposed to be destroyed on december 12 -- 21 2012. think back to the height of mya's civilization with ancient humans thought. and, of course appreciating the fact that the world didn't end yesterday. >> the way he was talking, i'm very relieved. so there you have it. nasa says the world will not end when mexico's ancient maya calendar ends. they're so confident they released it ahead of schedule. some people think we're doom. here's bill whitaker's report. >> reporter: you're looking at where it all began and where some say it will all end. these are the ancient mayan ruins in southern mexico and this is the calendar the ancient mayans used. it kept time for centuries, but it end this year next friday to be exact, december 21st. that end date has sparked a doomsday craze fueling fears that this is it the exact day that the world will end. the movie "2012" gave us an over-the-top worst-case scenario mayan-scale mayhem on a global sky. the film made more than $147 million worldwide. other documentaries have followed hoping to turn prophesy's into profits. 2012 iceberg, 2012 awakening. even the nags altional gee graphic channel is hosting shows. showing dooms sayers counting down their final days. >> i have to protect my family. >> reporter: all this bad news is good news for mexican tourism. >> it was really helpful that a lot of media gave attention to the catastrophic type of way to this date. we're having over 1 million visitors which sa a pretty good number, and this number is growing at a very fast rate. >> it's all about the numbers. >> survival business is a big business. >> george shepherd is a publicist of the "survivalist" magazine. at a time when magazine sales are down he says he can't keep "survivalist" on the shelves. >> i think we saw a 20% sfiek in sales. >> all kinds of sales are hoping to turn gloom times into websites. websites like 121212.org has things you should by and even tgi fridays is throwing a promotion. >> we're going to throw one helluva party. >> they're inviting their customers to party like there's no tomorrow. i wouldn't say hysteria but the general concern about this issue is a lot of people are taking advantage of this because it's such a newsworthy topic. >> reporter: in an armageddon situation, there's no e.r.ers or wall greens or cvss on the corner. >> he can outfit a trailer with nufl goods to let you safely outrun any apocalypse. >> it came about because of need. it's very very successful. we have had people come in to town from as far as alaska and a few outside the country as well. >> reporter: a recent concert near the mayan ruins was billed at a celebration, sparking a new dawn. as to what that dawn will hold well we'll all know soon enough. that is if we're all still here on december 22nd. for "cbs this morning," i'm bill whitaker in los angeles. >> here's a question people always want to know. does size matter. charlie, you go first? does size matter? you go first. norah, does it matter? ?x :ó investigators hope to be able to >> your realtime captioner: linda marie macdonald. hi, everyone. i'm frank mallicoat. it's 8:25. get you caught up with some bay area headlines now. fremont fire investigators hope to be able to search today for the cause of a smoky fire that destroyed a machine shop yesterday. right now, it's not safe to go inside that building. nobody was hurt, but hazardous chemicals prompted a "shelter in place" warning in the neighborhood. a san francisco police sergeant is parked at a desk for now after hosting this dangerous joyride inside a lamborghini. it was on a facebook post. sergeant "carl t" bragged he and friends were drunk as they drove through the broadway tunnel at 100 miles an hour. internal affairs is investigating. today high tides will continue washing over the california coastlines. the king tides are expected to hit another peak later this morning and some areas of water could be up to several feet. this is all because of a temporary increased gravitational pull on the pacific ocean. but it will be over soon. traffic and weather coming up. >>live look at the nimitz 880 in oakland. things are moving better than usual at this time of the morning. northbound and southbound as you pass the oakland coliseum we are seeing a few brake lights through san leandro. elsewhere, let's go to the san mateo bridge. westbound 92 just seeing our usual slow and go traffic on the flat section towards the high-rise. eastbound 92 there is roadwork in the right lane until 1:00 this afternoon. that's traffic. here's lawrence. >> a lot of clouds out there right now, chilly temperatures to go along with that still in the 30s and 40s. a couple of raindrops showing up approaching the coastline into san francisco. you see some raindrops on the lens there. and hi-def doppler is picking up on some of that moisture mainly along the coastline, the peninsula and that's where we're expecting the bulk of any showers we see today to remain. temperatures are going to stay cool, mainly in the 40s and 50s. over the weekend more cold storms headed in showers expected on saturday. maybe into sunday morning. ♪ ♪ take a look at zach hoskins. he's a junior. he was born with one arm but that hasn't stopped him from starting on the milton basketball team. >> he's good too. welcome back to "cbs this morning." with less than two weeks till christmas, lots of people and i mean lots of people have tvs on their shopping list norah o'donnell. >> i do, i do. i have a tv on my shopping list. before you head to the store and before you hear of a sales pitch, cn editor scott stein is here. first question plasma or lcd? >> lcd coffers a variety of technologies. you the cheap lcds you can get in stores for maybe $300 different back lighting than the ones at the back lighting using l.e.d. back lighting. they range. plasma, the technology has been out there for a while. it actually has in cnet maybe our top five tvs are almost all plasmas. the picture quality in terms of the darkest blacks is usually the best because of the way the plasma works. you can usually get a good bang for the buck in the bigger sizes. >> i don't know what you just said, scott. which has the better picture quality? >> plasma. we like plasma for that. >> which one is thinner? >> they're getting thinner and thinner. pretty neck and neck at this point. you will see -- usually you'll see l.e.d. backlit lcds. you see a ton of those. if you get a nice well reviewed one, make sure the picture quality is up to snuff in a lot of reviews because they do vary. you can -- >> i'm going to stick with what you said about plasma. >> i got a plasma. >> that's good enough for me. i used to think that to me to buy a great tv get the biggest tv you can for the smallest price, and that really is not the best way to shop for a tv, right? >> you definitely want to take a look at picture quality as well. the house rule is that there's no such thing as too big for a television. >> for a television? >> for a television. >> we've been teasing all morning does size matter. you're saying size matters. >> yes, we went from 32 inch to a 59 inch. i got a lot of anger about how it's disorienting. we did get used to it. i think for movies it's great. for tv it can freak you out because a lot of times the shots are not meant to be quite as big. right now tvs are getting bigger and bigger. 16-inch used to seem ridiculously large. 50 is standard. >> much anticipation about apple tv. >> yes. it's been postponed and pushed back. are televisions about to change dramatically in terms of what they do and how they do it? >> they might. i think in terms of the services and the interface. we don't know what's going to happen with apple and the am tv or what exactly will come down the pike. i say your best bet is treat your tv like a big monitor, like a dig display. right now, don't invest in thinking about internet services, smart apps any of that stuff. most likely whatever comes down the road, you can plug into your tv and you'll be fine. >> we were talking about whether size matters. sound matters and does tv have a good sound on its own? >> no. none of them do really. they don't really invest in that. they throw it in because if your tv didn't have speakers you would be very upset. most people would be upset. i listen through speakers on my own tv which is a horrible thing to admit. we use a lot of home theater systems. $150 gets you great speakers now. plug it in. it takes no effort. >> don't be suckered when they take you to the private room and they say listen to the quality of the sound, don't pay any attention to it. >> don't pay any attention to it. >> let's go back to the hdmi cables, do we need them? >> you need them because they plug in everything your blu-ray, even your cable box. it carries audio and video, great quality, surround sound. they're really universal. you need a bunch of them in the home if you're going to connect stuff or your computer or your camcorder. you don't need to pay up for them. we've never found that better hdmi cables make a difference ever. so you can go several hundred dollars down to five bucks on amazon. buy the $5 ones. treat yourself to a blue ray player if you don't have one. >> finally the warrantee. i always get the warrantee. >> i never get it. >> we side with charlie on that. >> everyone sides with charlie. everyone does. you are dismissed now. thank you so much for coming. >> really thank you. if you remember seeing a great celebrity photo in "vanity fair" magazine there's a good chance it was taken by there he s jonathan becker. we'll meet him right after the break and show you the best of ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ photography can be both art and journalism. jonathan becker exhibit that. "vanity fair" features his photos. a new book jonathan becker 30 years ativanity fair. welcome. >> thank you for having me. >> it's huge. >> it's a heavy book. >> these photographs tell the story about your curiosity of the human face and its environment. >> thank you. yes. and the privilege of working ativanity fair all these years which is -- >> when you were taking these photos, what were you looking for? take us into the mind's eye of the photographer. >> i think as a key, it's not to know exactly what you're looking for because you never know what you're going to find. if you think you know what you're looking for, then you won't find it. >> but graydon carter tells you a natty dresser and the finest portrait journalist of our time. >> thank you. >> so what makes a picture, back to charlie's point, jonathan and becker and "vanity fair" worthy for you? >> it's hard to say. it's an induive -- i know -- >> you seem to catch moments. there's a great shot of matt damon and ben affleck back in the day when they were just starting out and we were getting to know them. you seem to catch moments with people. >> yeah, look at these two. >> back in boston probably isn't it? >> no. that was out in california. that was a day -- it was a studio a lot of actors around. the other picture we're talking about -- is part of that series. i went from one to the next. it's very relaxed. i don't take too many pictures. >> you don't take too many pictures. >> that's different. >> i'll show you. this is the late great arthur william styren. what do you see? >> hae had written this wonderful book about manic depression. he and art were great friends. they would walk around out at martha's vineyard talking about suicide all the time. it made them feel better. >> talking about suicide? >> yes. for some reason you talk about it enough and it goes away. that picture had all kinds of symbolism, the ropes the water, the dog. it came together that way. somehow if you concentrate on a subject -- >> do you have a muse? >> a muse? there are subject who have been muses at times, people that you come back to. >> you have photographed several kennedys. you have photographed jackie kennedy. there's pictures in there of john junior. >> the last picture of john junior pretty much at the "vanity fair" washington correspondents' dinner party. >> the iconic picture at that party right before -- this is it. that was one of the pictures we saw when they both died. you took that picture. >> they were having a very good time. they were sitting there, and i don't even think they knew i took the picture. >> she's almost sort of sitting on his lap or sharing a chair with him which is so endearing when you see couples squeeze into a chair together. >> you always seem to capture moments with people. i was surprised to read you were a taxi driver jonathan becker. did driving a cab help you with your photography? >> i think i learned more driving a taxi because you become so alert. in the '70s. it's dangerous, pay pay attention and you grow antenna. i picked up all kind of people who became subjects later. andy warhol. >> andy warhol had a camera with him all the time. >> he did. a little one. >> you say you enjoy your work veraciously. i think that's a good way to feel about what you do. >> thank you. >> congratulations. a very big book. jonathan becker. the name of the book is "jonathan becker: 30 years ativanity fair." >> do you think you could live on a dollar a day? a billion people do that around the world. we'll show you what happened to two americans who tried it in guatemala. the story next on "cbs this morning." ♪ ♪ conceived in bar. and you might have to be a little tipsy to try it. two california college kids decided to live on a dollar a day so they would understand what life is like for more than 1 billion people around the world. as carter evans reports, they've turned their experiment into a movie. >> thank you all for coming out to the bus. >> they're touring the country in a rolling billboard, sharing their documentary, living on $1. >> we all kind of got destroyed on our dirt floors. >> can't sleep another night like this. >> reporter: as college students studying the economics, they wanted to leave the classroom to grasp the better realities of the facing the poorest of the poor. they sur vaved guatemala with two friends to experience it firsthand. >> i have a water source. >> you should check that out. that's how much is in there. >> reporter: you knew you were getting into but how unprepared were you? >> unprepared is an understatement i remember waking up and having been bitten by fleece and zach had been sick the night before throwing up and it was our first day. >> reporter: the first in a 56-day field course on extreme poverty. most of their neighbors survive on just a dollar per day, budgets for food firewood education, and emergency. >> were you worried you'd run the risk of looking like white kids being poor? >> we knew we would never totally replicate the story. we wanted to be that bridge so that people who don't even normally engage with these issues could actually be a part of this journey. >> reporter: hundreds of thousands followed their journey on youtube. and hollywood took notice helping turn the school project into a festival-worthy project. >> we woke up and it was market day and we literally have no money for food. >> was there a point when you were out there suffering through all this that you said to yourself, i just can't go on? >> two weeks into this experience, you know we were having a really hard time. i've almost passed out today like probably three times. >> i had a parasite in my stomach and was constantly sick about 30 times in one night. >> reporter: despite the hardship, they didn't give up. they wanted to put a face on poverty. they met anthony and rosa who have more than most supporting a house olde of eight on $10 a day, made possible by microfinancing and $10 that enabled rosa to buy a business and a better stoesh. she showed america how she add cheap and vital calories to her meals. now in an effort to share one culture with another, they brought their film home to a screening in seattle. it's standing room only. >> it's a room about poverty and we've fill add room with 500 people. thank you, guys. >> their passion is projected on screen and the audience is eating it up. >> it's inspiring because it's their story and i love that it's through their eyes and how they experienced poverty. >> reporter: they're now living full tomb on a borrowed bus, promoting their project and asking everyone to lend a hand. >> we're asking you each to make a commitment hour small, to impact the life of somebody else. >> reporter: in their case all it took was a dollar and the value of the lesson is not in what it buys but what it begins. for "cbs this morning," carter evans, seattle. >> a story worth telling. i was going to say, kudos for them for bringing it to us. >> a very valuable lesson they bring to us about how many people share a dollar. >> it's friday. our christmas party is tonight. >> will you be on the dance floor? >> i doubt it. >> we will have evidence on monday. >> that's why i won't do it. as we leave you, let's take a look back at the week that was. have a great weekend. my sing new york. ♪ put your cell phones in the air ♪ >> i was born in brooklyn. >> staten island. >> too mean to lay down and die. >> all the money we're going to make in terms of fees and commissions will go to the robin hood leaf fund. >> let's go. i love you. >> i think gayle -- tell me exactly what you do. >> charlie, i hurt. >> i always thought charlie rose has the best job in town. >> i was practicing. >> yeah but you know you've got a pretty gate job. >> you belong in sports. that's what i think. >> somebody shall remain anonymous, chris licht said, he would not be paying for the room. >> now they enter the alley. >> oh. okay. i think the humiliation is over now. ♪ baby we were born to run ♪ >> great work, chicago. the'll likely only get bigger. >> i still think nic neither side will be stupid enough to let us go over this fiscal cliff. >> do you believe if we don't get a deal done it won't get done until after christmas? >> i'm more optimistic than that. >> we can't expect it to bauns back in january. >> we haven't been working on this for two weeks or two days. we've been working on it for two years. >> the gunman came -- i i'm quoting, countless rounds. >> my heart saench into my feet. i'm getting a little choked up. >> we started receiving calls from the mens of the cartel. >> at any moment now wu will see, we will see that piece litfted to the top of one world trade center. she was known as la gran gran senora. >> you're buying dinner. >> that's the wait always is with you isn't it? >> no. ♪ there is no pain you are feeling ♪ >> when i see my boo charlie rose was flipping. >> i'm now an iphone 5 user thanks to charlie. hello, charlotte. >> you've got a name. >> shall i set you up with a person? >> once you go charlie rose, everything glows. well, well well. growing up, we didn't have u-verse. we couldn't record four shows at the same time. in my day, you were lucky if you could record two shows. and if mom was recording her dumb show and dad was recording his dumb show then, by george, that's all we watched. and we liked it! today's kids got it so good. [ male announcer ] get u-verse tv with a total home dvr included free for life. only $29 a month for six months. rethink possible. >> your realtime captioner: linda marie macdonald hi, everyone. good morning. i'm frank mallicoat with cbs 5 headlines on this friday. a strong earthquake happened this morning in the ocean off baja, california. it struck around 2:30 this morning with a magnitude 6.3. thousands felt it near the u.s./mexico border but no damage is reported and there was no tsunami warning. sentencing today for a serial rapist in san francisco. the 33-year-old was convicts last month for a series of sexual assaults in the mission district. the attacks happened last year. frederick dozier could get life in jail. pg&e has rushed to check an underground electrical equipment across the bay area. required inspections on 1500 pieces of equipment may not have been performed. eight employees and contractors have been fired or suspended. let's check with lawrence on a friday. it's chilly. >> cold outside in some parts of the bay area. clouds rolling in and showers out there, as well. especially toward the coastline. we have seen some more scattered showers showing up there and i think that will be the context of the storm system staying mainly near the coast as it's going to sweep by. showers showing up now on our cbs 5 hi-def doppler radar. i think as we head toward the afternoon may see some breaks in the clouds. the temperatures going to be cool though. 40s and 50s for highs. the next couple of days, it is going to stay unsettled and possibly wet on and off through the weekend and well into next week. we are going to check your "timesaver traffic" coming up next. good morning. stall just cleared eastbound 24 right before the caldecott tunnel. this is on the oakland side. it's still backed up though. look at highway 13. 24 if you are heading towards orinda expect delays. the golden gate bridge has been a good one, good commute all morning. no delays. and over at the bay bridge things beginning to thin out a bit. metering lights are still on. backed up towards the end of the first overcrossing. have a great weekend. captions by: caption colorado comments@captioncolorado.com >> announcer: today... >> i just wish my phone would ring so i could go i'm cook withing rachael ray right now. >> rachael: well you're attempting to. >> announcer: our co-host for the day richard marx has a brand-new christmas video, guess who is singing along? ♪ ♪ >> announcer: then... >> rachael: you can handle this. >> i can totally do this. >> announcer: richard is in the kitchen helping us with potato pancakes. >> i would marry that. >> announcer: then novelist -- >> rachael: photographer.

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>> in fact, the country's ambassador to the uk is saying they won't be pardoned or released before he completes his 15-year sentence of hard >> prosecutors will seek the death penalty against dzhokhar tsarnaev. u.s. attorney general eric holder cited the cruel and >> cut a trip short after nearly 700 true and passengers got sick once again. >> hard to keep all of them straight. president obama speaking to jake tapper in his first interview since the stun address. the commander in chief promises twout will be a year of action. and he's moving forward with or without congress chl the president revealing his plan right here on cnn. talking about it, the anchor of the lead, jake tapper. >> your last name should be french. >> it's not. it's not. >> i have to say i've been covering president obama since he was senator obama. >> and you've had several interviews with him. >> i was covering him on the campaign trail. there was a time after he clempled enough delegates. june 2008. he clenched enough delegates. and he talked about his election in terms of this would be the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and the world began to heal. now he's talking about using his pen and phone to take executive orders, executive actions. that was one of the things i wanted to ask him about. has he scaled back his ambitions and expectations for what he wants to do with the country. >> thaks for doing this mr. president. >> great to be with you. >> here is whatever you cannot accomplish with congress you will take executive action or issue executive orders. how much can you really accomplish doing that? >> my big push is making sure we're focused on opportunity. making sure every single day all of us in washington are thinking about ways we can help all of us get good jobs, make sure the jobs pay, make sure the kids are getting a good education. those are the issues the american people still are very much concerned about. obviously, there's going to be more that we can do if congress is able to breakthrough some of the gridlock. if we're able to pass immigration reform, that is going to add growth to the economy. >> you don't seem confident that that's going to happen. >> i think we have a good chance. >> i mean the jobs issue. >> i think there are going to be some issues where it is going to be tough. i'm going to continue to reach out to them and say, here are my best ideas. i want to hear yours. but as i said, i can't wait and the american people, more importantly cannot wait. we know that one of the biggest problems right now is the jobs market. >> people won't hire them because they've been unemployed so long. >> folks are looking at that gap in the resume and they're weeding them out before these chance get a chance for a interview. we gathered together 300 companies just to start with, including some of the top companies in the country, to say let's establish best practices. do not screen people out out of the hiring process just because they've been out of work for a long time. we just went through the worst recession since the great depression. i'll be convening a meeting where a number of these top companies will be coming in, agreeing to these best practices and have the opportunity to encourage more people to come in. all of these things are going to have an impact. will we have more of an impact if we can get congress, for example to mass a minimum wage law that applies to everybody as opposed to me just through an executive order, absolutely. and that's why i'm going to keep on reaching out for them. but i'm not going to wait for them. >> i've been covering you for a long, long time. i remember during the campaign when you talked about your presidency being a moment when the rise of the oceans would slow and the nation and the world would heel. now you're talking about pen and phone and executive orders. do you think you were naive back then or have you recalibrated your expectations and ambitions? >> part of it is we got a lot of that stuff done. we got in this country a health care reform that already signed up millions of people. and make sure that anybody's who's watching, anybody who has insurance will not be developed. they can et git on healthcare dove. we have made e more mouse strides on the education front. millions of more young people get student loans. so part of what's happened is, that checklist, we have passed a lot of that. and so in no way are my expectations diminished, but what is obviously true is we've got divided government right now. the house republicans in particular have had difficulty rallying around any agenda, much less mine. and in that kind of environment, what i don't want is the american people to think that the only way for us to make big change is through legislation. we've all got to work together to continue to provide opportunity for the next generation. >> let's talk about house republicans and senate republicans because there has been a large contingency of republicans critical of your new approach. senator ted cruz of texas who might run for president calls this the imperial presidency. they want to reign in what you're trying to do. >> i don't think that's very serious. the truth of the matter is every president engages in executive actions. we've been very disciplined and sparing in terms of the executive actions that we've taken. we make sure that we're doing it within the authority that we have under statute, but i am not going to make an apology for saying that if i can help middle class families and folks who are working hard to try to get into the middle class do a little bit better, then i'm going to do it. i think it's a tough argument for the other side to make that not only are they willing to not do anything, but they also want me not to do anything. in which case, i think the american people, whose right now estimation of congress is already pretty low, might have an even lower opinion. >> the stop act is not something you take seriously? >> i'm not particularly worried about it. >> let's talk about areas you might be able to make progress. i know a path way to citizenship through imfwrags reform is very important to you. it's possible you might be able to get an immigration reform bill on your desk for legal status but not citizenship. >> i'm not going to repruj what gets to my desk. i think the principle that we don't want two classes of people in america is a principle that a lot of people agree with, not just me and not just democrats. but i am encouraged by what speaker boehner has said. obviously i was encouraged by the bipartisan bill that passed out of the senate. i genuinely believe that speaker boehner really do want to get a serious immigration reform bill done. if the speaker proposes something that says right away folks aren't being deported, families aren't being separated, we're able to attract stop young students to provide the skills or start businesses here, then there's a regular process of citizenship i'm not sure how wide the divide ends up being. >> i just wonder if you see this at all in terms of especially the path way to citizenship in the way that you seemed to when you were passing health care reform and i was covering it, the public option. in other words, it would be great if you could do it, it's not going to happen and there might be expectations that you have to do. i don't think house republicans can pass anything that has a path way to citizenship. >> there is a desire to get it done. and that particularly in this congress is a huge piece of business. because they haven't got an lot done over the last couple years out of the house republican cauc caucus. the fact that they're for something i think is progress. i do know that for a lot of families, the fear of deportation is one of the biggest concerns that they've got. and that's why we took executive actions given by discretion to make sure we're not deporting kids who dpru up here and are americans for all practical purposes. but we need to get that codified. is there more we can do in this legislation that gets more support but solves these broader problems including strengthening borders. >> and of course, more of the interview will air in a little bit. kate, you know one of the things i thought was so important and interesting was i asked him point-blank, if immigration reform doesn't have a path to citizenship for the millions of undocumented workers will you veto it. he wouldn't play. >> and it shows the struggle. it's a difficult answer because it could box him in. if he gives you a firm answer stsh. >> i agree with you, but i do think there are going to be voe indicates for immigration reform that are going to be disappointed with that answer. the president is basically saying it's acceptable. and as i said in the question to him, there was a time during health care when he made it very clear that he would like a public option government run health care, but he understood it couldn't get through congress, so he threw it under the bus. he -- he seems to be signaling something similar here. he's not standing up for it. >> that's smart politics though. is the president entering a second term. >> on the politics i agree. on the principle, i think there will be people on the left disappointed. >> that's the trick in general. you have such convergent ideologies there. jake's making a strong point. his base is not going to like the answer. it's also good insight into why the interview is so valuable. usually he's on message. that was very good for you to get him into a dialogue here, jake, where you're unpacking why he thinks what he thinks about things. it's important. >> it's interesting also because right now the house republicans are in a retreat and they are discussing this. just based on reportering, i know, i don't think there's any way house republicans will be able to pass immigration reform with a clear, special, distinct path way to citizenship. i know speaker boehner has said he will not bring up a bill unless it will get a majority of republicans. >> you know na. >> yeah. >> lots of year of action. he's going to have to get things done. he's going to have to take what he gets to some extent. >> more of jake's interview with the president just ahead. a lot of other topics that jake hits on. the president's thoughts on another global person and also they talk about marijuana. and you can watch the full interview today on the lead with jake tapper at 4:00 eastern. also news this morning about the italian trial saga six years in the making. amanda knox vowing to fight wrongful prosecution. we are live in plor recognize with more. >> reporter: hi, well the victim meredith kercher's brother and sister speaking out this morning saying nothing will bring back meredith. their lawyer has long argued for this conviction. meanwhile, outrage among amanda knocks's supporters. they're saying she and sollecito have been railroaded by the italians. guilty once again. the amanda knox murder trial far from over this morning after knox was last night slapped with her second conviction of the murder of british student meredith kercher. this is a third time an italian court has heard the case. the judge overturned the original conviction due to errors in the investigation. she returned to the united states and made no appearance in this trial. last night, a woman believed to be amanda knox was whisked away by family members. knox released a statement saying i am frightened and saddened by this unjust verdict. i expected better from the italian justice system. now the court has sentenced knox to 28 1/2 year in prison. knox's ex-boyfriend, sollecito was also convicted. he was on hand to hear the verdict. and the kercher family keeping the focus on the victim at the center of the case. >> when it is finally upheld or not, nothing's of course going to bring meredith back. nothing will ever take away the horror of what happened to her. the best we can hope for is, of course, finally bringing this whole case to a conclusion, you know, and a conviction and everybody can then move on with their lives. >> reporter: next up, a fresh round of appeals and many unanswered questions. will italy request her extradition from the united states and will the u.s. grant it. >> in italy, you're still actually presumed innocent until that third final stage. the prosecution asked for a questionnaire or provisional arrest warrant today. it was rejected. the court recognized she is lawfully in the united states. >> reporter: but knox says she's fearful of her future. >> it would feel like a train wreck if they would order my arrest and the italian government would approach the american fwovt and say, extradite her. and i don't know what would happen. >> reporter: there's been an update on raffaele sollecito's where abouts. he has been detained near a northern italian town. he was found in a hotel at 1:00 a.m. in the morning. police were following him on court orders to seize his passport and other travel documents because he had been deemed a flight risk. he's telling police that he was not running away. back to you. >> all right. thank you very much for that update. so finally, a break for the people of atlanta. temperatures inches just high enough for the ice to start melting. but people are still recovering from the mess. any abandoned cars, they were towed away after most people were able to retrieve them during the day yesterday. now finally, an apology from georgia's governor. good morning, george. >> reporter: kate, good morning. it is pressly 26 degrees in atlanta. it's expected to get into the 50s. that is welcome news as the commute here gets back to normal. and we are hearing an apology from the state's governor and a personal admission that he could have done more. this morning, the icy roads that froze atlanta to a standstill continued to thaw out. this, as georgia's governor tries to alleviate criticism. >> i accept responsibility for the fact that we did not make preparation early enough to avoid these consequences. >> reporter: governor nathan deal came out strong on thursday. >> i'm not going to look for a scapegoat. i am the governor. the buck stops with me. >> reporter: a sharp contrast to his role in the blame game the morning after the storm. >> the national weather svrs had continuely had their molgding showing the city of atlanta would not be the primary area where the storm would hit. >> reporter: governor deal ordered an internal review for the state's delayed response to tuesday's crisis. take a look at the traffic map showing the green smooth flow turning deep red, the color of gridlock. throughout thursday, people came back to claim their abandoned cars. >> your vehicle was towed. >> reporter: state troopers and the national guard are helping transport people to the more than 2,000 vehicles strewn along roads and highways. >> i give them an a inspite of all the fs this is an a and i thank them. >> reporter: overnight, state troopers scoured the roadways. today, the cleanup is moving forward. even though some neighborhood streets are still sheets of size, a 14-year-old girl lost part of her leg thursday on one such street after the abandoned car she was standing behind was struck by another car. >> i think it's been a big wake up call. i think it's going to cause all of us to be more aggressive in terms of declaring states of emergency. >> reporter: what a difference a few days makes. you see the commute getting back to normal. all of the cars have been identified and most have been removed from the roads. we also know that the governor has ex-tended that state of emergency until sunday to keep resources on the ground to help folks who need them. back to you. >> getting it right this time. thanks so much. >> preparations weren't in place. but in truth, the information about the weather has been. let's get over to indra petersons. the question is, when does this go away. there's that part as well. >> you can go back right now and actually see the forecast discussions way back, several days, 48 hours before. but speaking of today, it is still cold out there. temperatures this morning again below freezing. so the concern any ice that is still out there, still frozen this morning. but there's the difference. temperatures already ten degrees warmer today than they were yesterday morning. we're going to continue that trend as we go through the afternoon. not only in the southeast, but above normal. start to see that recovery very quickly. same story even in the northeast. looking at those temperatures climbing. that's good news. it doesn't mean there's no showers in the forecast. and some good ones. 1 to 2 inches of snowfall per hour in denver. near 10 inches at the higher elevations. look at these numbers. 6 to 10 inches of snow in through chicago. there are two, tomorrow being the stronger one making its way all the way in through michigan. you can see the icing from ohio valley back through the plains. the first weather model does not bring us showers for super bowl sunday. but we have several models. the european model does bring the chance for showers right before the game and right after the game. so needless to say, the forecast is still changing as far as super bowl sunday. >> it seems that it's a no go in terms of changing the date. >> it's important, if it's going to be pouring rain, the coaches will have a different game plan. >> either way, no one wants to be wet. coming up next on "new day," amanda knox convicted again of murder by an italian court sentencing her to 28 1/2 here in prison. the question now, will the u.s. ever agree to extradite her. 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>> the knife didn't fit the wounds in the victim. that's out. the knife had no dna from the victim. it's out. they brow beat her for 53 hours over five days to get her to implicate someone else that they needed to have. there was nothing that you can put down that is in any way, shape or form has survived the appeals. it is also false, it's also gone. >> joey jackson, i suggest that this was a sex game fwon wrong. meredith kercher was a young woman of virtue. it wound up in murder and you confessed and you did cart wheels in the hallways afterwards while consisting your boyfriend and an innocent person doesn't do it. >> the facts are, chris, that in any prosecution you need evidence, you need facts to base any statements that you're making. absolutely. but when you think about also cart wheels. let's talk about the consist to the boyfriend. how are you going to base a legitimate prosecution upon evidence that doesn't exist at the scene but that we're talking about in terms of how she reacted. you could regard the chris as -- consist as consoling her. you know, and being held by the police. and so when you look at the actual evidence in terms of the case itself, it's problematic. very quickly, on the issue of the dna and the nice knife. you don't have ed that you leave for seven weeks and then you determine we're going to test it then. you don't have a knife that you pick up out of the kitchen and say, let's say that's the crime scene knife. this court however saw things differently. >> you had two judges and six jurors who viewed evidence. we don't know exactly everything they looked at. but can you just as muchly explain away 12 hours of deliberation? >> yeah, i -- really i do believe that the -- the decision was made before the jury was empanelled. that's how the italian judicial system works. that's why they're such -- i don't want to say laughing stock, but they are certainly one of the more suspect journal systems in all of western europe. so the 12 hours was simply to make it look good. >> there's going to be review of the sprout. forget about that process. it's what will the u.s. do if this conviction is upheld. there is an extradition treaty. >> absolutely. >> speak to the president as to how each country has treated this treaty. >> sure. well in terms of the provision in the treaty, there's an article ten. the united states can interpret that provision with overturning her conviction, thoughing it out and say look, we had independent experts establishing -- they weren't even at the crime scene and this dna was unreliable. therefore, there is no reasonable cause to believe they committed this crime. >> and we do have precedent that italy refused to send someone to us. >> and sure. back in 2009. not that there was an extradition request, there may not be one here. there were 22 cia agents charged with the kidnapping of a terrorist. and they of course convicted. never spent a day of jail in italy. there is precedent for people convicted in italy not being returned and vice versa. >> the big question of course, whether it ends in her favor, she has a very long process of trying to figure out where her freedoms exist. the kercher family still hasz to wonder when will there be absolute justice in this. appreciate the perspective. obviously this is as much of a debate as it is a case. tweet us what you think. coming up next on "new day," more of jake tapper's ex-claw sieve interview with praum. the commander in chief, what he has to say about the nsa and also what it's like to raise his two taurs in the white house these days. ya na dell la welcome back to "new day." rets take a look at your top stories right now. peace talks on syria set to end in switzerland today. and allow humanitarian aid to get in. this discussion now moves to germany with secretary of state john kerry. the weather is finally starting to cooperate in atlanta. temperatures have inched up high enough for ice to start melting. the state of mrm in georgia has been extended through sunday. governor nathan deal is now taking responsibility for the slow response. new this morning. officials at an elementary school in salt lake city apologizing for taking food away from children with negative balances in their lunch accounts. they are acknowledging that the situation could have been handled better. feweruated parents claimed they were never informed about issues with the accounts chblts. and joj zimmer man degrees to take part in a quote, celebrity boxing match. proceeds from the bought will go to charity. zimmer man we're told will not make any money. kate? >> all right. thank sos much. let's get mow to measure of -- more of jake tapper's extensive interview with president obama. it covers everything from raising two daughters to his thoughts on pope francis. jake is here once again. >> we ran through a lot of issues. this is from the lighter section of the interview. i want to confide in you and our viewers that as a white house correspondent, sometimes there was tension between me and the president. so at the beginning of the interview we did this walk-in talk. to clear the air, i might ask him about his favorite topic. so the first lady just gave an interview. she said that your daughters not so concerned with whether or not you had a bad between. more concerned about, okay, dad, that's great, where's my allowance. >> they have some awareness of what's going on. and we have great conversations although mostly it's more about history than it is about what's going on right now. it's true. look, they're teenagers. they are fully absorbed with their lives, what's going on at school. >> they're not into your approval ratings. >> they really are not. >> are you bringing them when you go to the vatican? >> you know, they met the previous pope the last time they went to roam. i'm not sure they're going to have a chance to go this time. one was still pretty young at the time. they see the chapel and going through these various chambers. each time she'd see somebody dressed up in the cloth, she'd say, is that the pope, is that the pope, how about that guy over there. no, no, you'll know when it is finally the pope. >> i was thinking about this pope. i was thinking about there's so much excitement. people think he's going to change everything. do you want to talk to him about the importance of managing expectations at all? >> i have been really impressed so far with the way he's communicated what i think is the essence of the christian faith and that is a true sense of brotherhood and sister hood and regard for those who are less fortunate. and my suspicion is based on what i've seen of him so far, he's a pretty steady guy. i don't think he needs any advice from me about staying humble. >> he's not looking at his approval rating. >> i don't think he is. i think he is very much reflecting on his faith and what he needs to do to make sure that folks not just of the catholic faith but people all around the world are living out a message that he thinks is consistent with the lessons of jesus christ. that's a meeting i'm looking forward to. >> and of course, we got into many, many more topics in addition to the economy and the imperial presidency. we talked about whether or not. we talked about whether or not he would allow his friends to go to the sochi olympics. it's a very complicated answer. he doesn't just say, yes, go. >> i also think a complicated answer when he has to talk to his daughters about his approval rating. >> they don't care. i come home, i've had a rough day, my kids could not care less. it's kind of nice to know that same thing happens with them. >> even living at the white house. >> i didn't ask him if the first lady feels bad for him. that's not my business it's not my biznatch. >> find out what he says about the nsa and safety at the sochi olympics. you can watch the full interview today on jake's show at 4:00 eastern. dennis rodman's struggles. our explosive interview on "new day," really just the beginning of the story. we find him in a place that's more dangerous for him than north korea. he's facing his demons in rehab. , is that true? 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[ inhales deeply ] oh. what a relief it is. welcome back to "new day." this morning, former nba star dennis rodman is undergoing treatment for his long struggle with alcoholism. he checked himself in after the trip to north career ya which included his out of control interview here on "new day." we're going to speak with dennis rodman live this time. he made the request saying it's part of his healing. what is behind his decades long battle with addiction. and what is hopefully a discussion about his determination to finally recover. first for you now, a look at what brought dennis rodman to this point. five-time nba champ doctor, the worm. notorious with crossing lines, cross dressing, even crossing over into cross-dressing. but this was the crown july in his career of controversy. >> i don't give a rat's ass what the hell you think. >> it quickly turned into something else. ♪ happy birthday to you >> a birthday present for kim jong-un. >> this is my friend. >> the bizarre access rodman has to the much maligned leader with his bizarre behavior. rodman would later apologize to us, his teammates and to kenneth bae rodman drunkenly accused of wrong doing. >> do you understand what he did? >> you tell me. >> no, no, no. you tell me. you tell me. >> behind all this bluster is a cry for help. rodman admitted he was drunk in the interview and out of control. he checked into rehab, and it's not the first time. rodman first went in 2008. in 2009, his behavior on the celebrity apprentice was so bad, friends and family staged an intervention. >> think this is going to help? >> later that year, he chose rehab over jail. he was nowhere near bottom, insisting like so many that he could control his problem. >> i've already got this under control. i'm cool. i can do whatever i want to. i've got it straightened the [ bleep ] out. >> arguably access to north korea could not control his own addiction. he finds himself in a hell that is familiar to more and more americans every day. rodman is facing those demons in rehab. we're going to visit him there later in the show. stay tuned for that. going to take a break, though. next up on "new day," who do you think will win the big game this sunday? i have my opinion. the broncos. here's a hint, they never worry about the points. >> is that about the republicans? mine was earned in korea in 1953. afghanistan, in 2009. orbiting the moon in 1971. 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>> reporter: well the victim of mare death kercher speaking out this morning, adding that they would support amanda knox's extradition from the united states if it came to that. their attorney has long argued for this condition. meanwhile, raffaele sollecito has been detained. he was followed by police on court orders to seize his travel documents. he insists that he was not on the run. >> thank you so much. more on that coming up. and one week until the winter games and team usa is arriving in sochi ready to win. we are live in sochi for us this morning. good morning ivan. >> good morning. russian authorities say they arrested two brothers that they suspect of being accomplices in last month's twin suicide bombings of the russian city of volgograd. meanwhile, a week after the olympics we're watching the russian so-called ring of steel tighten up. really fort fied places with gates, walls, fences, walls of metal detectors and tens of thousands of police and soldiers. u.s. counter terrorism officials say they think these olympic venues will be very safe. the bigger concern they say are softer targets like the city of sochi, the port of sochi which is half an hour's drive from the olympic venue. you can't wall off an entire city. an official says there is substantial potential for a terrorist attack. >> thank you very much. developing news this morning. north korea says it does not plan to release american kenneth bae any time soon. in fact, they are saying that they will not be pardoned or released before he completes his 15-year sentence of hard labor. he was leading a christian tour group when he was arrested for anty government acts. yahoo says their user names and passwords were stolen. yahoo mail has more than 80 million u.s. customers alone. they're working with law enforcement to investigate the attack. yahoo says the hackers got the information from a third party data base. >> cnn's exclusive interview with president obama. this is the first interview since the state of the union address. and he sat down with our very own jake tapper. key issues facing americans including whether the nsa has gone too far and should the federal government be missing people now for smoking pot. we're lucky to have jake tapper here this morning. >> the president gave an interview a few weeksing a in which he made those comments that surprised a lot of people about marijuana. this really contradicts official obama administration policy. if you go to the white house website -- >> directly contradicts. >> yeah. marijuana is a schedule 1 narcotic alongside heroin and ecstasy. so the more casual way he talked about it surprised people. that's where i picked up this part of the interview. >> another big issue has to do with the legalization of marijuana. you said that you thought smoking pot was a bad habit but you didn't think it was any worse for a person than drinking. now that contradicts the official obama administration policy both on the website of the office of national drug policy and also that it is considered a schedule 1 product. do you think you were maybe talking just a little too casually about it in the new york error are you considering not making marijuana a schedule one narcotic? >> first of all, what is and isn't a schedule 1 narcotic is a job for congress. >> i think it's the dea. >> it's not something by ourselves that we start changing. there are laws under those determination. >> will you support -- >> but the broader point, i understand by my belief, based i think on the scientific evidence, that marijuana for casual users, individual users is subject to abuse just like alcohol is and should be treated as a public health problem and challenge. but as i said in the interview, my concern is when you end up having very heavy criminal penalties for individual users that have been applied unevenly and in some cases, with a racial disparity. i think that is a problem. over the long term, what i believe is if we can deal with some of the criminal penalty issues, then we can really tackle what is a problem not just for marijuana but also alcohol, also cigarettes, also harder drugs and that is try to make sure that our kids don't get -- don't get into these habits in the first place. and, you know, the encars ration model that we've taken, particularly around marijuana, does not seem to have produced the kind of results that we've set. but i do offer a cautionary note and i said this in the interview, those who think legalization is a panacea, they have to ask themselves some tough questions too. if we start having a situation where big corporations with a lot of resources are suddenly going out there peddling marijuana, then the levels of abuse that may take place are going to be higher. >> when your director of national intelligence, clapper, testified before congress and said before the snowden leaks that there was no masseur va lance going on, a lot of democrats in the senate think that he was not honest. he said later that it was the least untruthful answer he could give. i know that you have faith in clapper. i know that you believe that these programs protect the american people. but i can't believe that you weren't disappointed by his answer because least untruthful is not a phrase i remember hearing on the campaign trail. >> the -- i think that jim clapper himself would acknowledge and has acknowledged that he should have been more careful about how he responded. his -- his concern was that he had a class five program that he couldn't talk about and he was in open hearing in which he was asked, he was prompted to disclose a program and so he felt that he was caught between a rock and a hard place. >> do you understand what he did. >> subsequently i think he acknowledged he could have handle it better. i think the broader point is that everybody that i've dealt with in our intelligence community is really working hard to try to do a very tough job. protect us when there are constant threat streams coming at us, but doing so in a way that's consistent with the law, consistent with our constitution and consistent with our privacy rights. i am actually confident that we can continue to have the best intel jeps service in the world, but win back the confidence of both the american people and folks overseas. it's going to take time and work. partly because the technology has just moved so quickly that the discussions that -- that need to be had didn't happen fast enough, didn't happen on the front end. you know, i think that we have the opportunity now to move forward in a way that's going to make a difference. >> a lot of members of congress and not just the fringe ones, the ones that are serious lawmakers have said to cnn that they would not let their family members go to sochi, that they are not confident it will be safe. you see all the intelligence. i know you're not going and michelle is not going. but if close friends of yours or close friends of the girls said, hey, we're thinking about going, what would you tell them? >> i'd tell them that i believe sochi is safe and that there are always some risks in these large international gatherings. i'm aulgz going to feel even better if it's inside the united states. but the russian authorities understand the stakes here. they understand there are potential threats that are out there. and we are coordinating with them. we've looked at their plans. i think we have a good sense of the security of that their putting in place to protect the athletes themselves but also visitors there. so what i would say is, is that if you want to go to the olympic, you should go to the olympic. we're not discouraging in any way americans from participating in what is always an amazing and wonderful event. in these large settings like this, there are always some risks involved. and i don't want to completely discount those. as we've seen here in the united states, the boston marathon. there were some risks if you have cells of folks who are trying to do some damage. >> thank you for your time. >> appreciate it. >> believe it or not, there is still some of this interview that has not aired. you can watch the full interview today on "the lead" at 4:00 p.m. eastern. we talked about cory remsberg. an amazing moment for the state of the union. very moving. we talked about afghanistan and then i did make him choose between biden versus hillary or broncos versus seahawks. >> you twisted his arm? i'm wondering which one did he decide. we'll see. >> it's so interesting listening to the president talk about the nsa right now and james clapper. because on the issue of privacy and intelligence, there's no question that his position has changed from when he was candidate obama. but listening to him articulate it, it doesn't seem there's a lot of clarity if that. he doesn't seem to be -- >> where the line is. >> i ask him about clapper doing what a lot of people would just straight out say, lying to congress. he said something that wasn't true. and clapper himself said that when he was asked about these massive surveillance programs on the american people before edward snowden leaked their existence to the world, he said he gave the least untruthful answer he could. i said to the president, i don't recall least untruthful from the pam contain -- campaign trail he defended clapper. >> he has to though. >> that was the first time i've heard somebody in the administration say he was being asked about classified programs in an open congressional hearing, basically excusing it. >> if it was a senator, he would have had a very different opinion. why do you think he struggles so much? >> it's the difference from looking at these programs from the outside than in. >> i think that's right. i talked to a lot of people who worked for many presidential candidates about this. the moment you become the nominee, the moment you get the briefings about the terrorist threats and other threats in the united states and then the moment you become president and all of a sudden responsible for 320 million americans, it does change your perspective. perhaps it allows people to rethink their positions on principles they previously held dear when it comes to civil liberties and civil rights. that's the explanation i have. i'm not excusing it. >> the american people do want to know that line because the trust has been broken since all of these leaks came at. >> he defended clapper. he defended him. >> and a lot more to come. thanks for coming on. >> thanks, kate, thanks john. >>. let's get indra petersons for a look at the forecast. what does the weekend look like for the all important game? >> there are some storms in the northwest. take a look at chicago by tomorrow could see 6 to 10 inches of snow. let's talk about it. we have this little game called the super bowl. today, not bad. warmer than yesterday. by late saturday, we start to see rain showers. we could see scattered showers in through sunday morning. but another system sunday night through monday. huge temperature drob there. could mean snow for monday. if you're watching the game, you're going to the game, 40 degrees at kickoff time. definitely windy conditions will be out there. let me show you what we look at. notice here we are. look at the systems making the way through. it's so close here. that is one model. a second system now sunday in through monday really shows the potential for another bulls eye to be right off the coast for monday morning. that's the best we can do right now. light scattered showers before and after the game, guys. >> thank you so much. let's take a break. more legal turmoil for amanda knox after another guilty verdict in italy. what are the chances she will be extradited? 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>> reporter: if you're holden onto any sports memorabilia that's labeled game used this is something you don't want to hear. the giants from the dry cleaner all the way to eli manning was accused of passing off items as became-used and he's alleging they've been doing this for years. ely manning is tachycardia ling a legal battle. several of his jerseys and helmets were doctored. he filed a lawsuit claiming the giants quarterback participated in the use so he could hold onto some of his most prized items. one of them is his 2008 super bowl helmet. manning denied any wrong doing in a statement saying, the giants told me this suit is completely without merit and i have no reason to believe otherwise. the giants are going to fight it and so will i. >> my advice would be to have the collectors do their own research. >> reporter: a life long giants fan claims he was buying and reselling memorabilia from the team for decades. in 2011 he was indicted for memorabilia fraud. in a statement, his attorney said, he is simply trying to hold those individuals accountable for their actions and the harm it has caused to him. included in the lawsuit, is an e-mail exchange in which they appear to acknowledge creating fake game worn gear. >> if that e-mail is le jit, then you could argue that that's a smoking gun. you have someone with knowledge that there's conspiracy to the fraud and to pawn off equipment that is really not lee jit. >> reporter: these aren't the type of questions ely's brother peyton wanted to answer. >> there's a question that he was involved in fake memorabilia, forgeries. do you have a comment or reaction to that? >> no. >> reporter: so the lawsuit is 77 pages law. it names eli, the giants, the team president. this is not something they wanted during this week's festivities. >> they want the attention to go quickly back into the game. >> peyton didn't look happy at all to get that question. >> no. >> thanks. coming up next, amanda knox convicted once again. sentenced to 28 1/2 years. we're going to speak with her attorney here in the u.s. and just an unbelievable failure to act with deadly consequences. why did firefighters refuse to help a man in distress just steps away from their fire house. that's ahead. ok, here's the way the system works. let's say you pay your guy around 2 percent to manage your money. that's not much, you think except it's 2 percent every year. does that make a difference? search "cost of financial advisors" ouch! over time it really adds up. then go to e*trade and find out how much our advice costs. spoiler alert. it's low. really? yes, really. e*trade offers investment advice and guidance from dedicated professional financial consultants. it's guidance on your terms not ours that's how our system works. e*trade. less for us, more for you. welcome back to "new day." amanda knox's lawyers are vowing to appeal her stunning murder conviction this morning. she was found guilty once again in the murder of her roommate and sentenced to 28 1/2 years in prison in an italian prison. of course there are questions if she could be forced to return to italy. let's talk about what's next and how the knox family is reacting. her lawyer here in the u.s., tedd simon. i can only imagine how much of a whirlwind it has been in the last 24 hours and few weeks. so thank you for taking the time. >> you're welcome and good morning to you. >> i know you had been in communication with amanda throughout the day yesterday. have you had a chance to speak with her and get a reaction since the verdict? >> true. we were in touch constantly all day yesterday and of course also with her family in waiting in anticipation of this next verdict. i can tell you that upon receiving the news, it was terrible news. she understands more than anyone that a wrongful conviction is unjust not just for the accused, but for the victim, their family as well as society. so she feels this very personally. while she accepted that very difficult news, she has rebounded. she has shown great resill yans and forget attitude. we would charkz that as a completely unjust conviction. i know you understand she was previously found innocence. >> right. >> by a jury. not that she was found not guilty. she was found actually innocent. a verdict that is possible in italy. yet, there was no evidence then and there's no evidence now. so that's why it becomes so incomprehensible how could there be a different verdict where there's no new or differing evidence. it is more favorable today than it was before. >> real quick kind of on -- what this does to her. because i was talking with another person who's been in close contact with her, ryan ferguson. he came on the show. he and amanda had been in communication. he says this is so tough for her really because her life is in limbo, she can't move on and live her life. you talk about her resill yans. how does she stay sane. how does she remain resill i can't when this happens? >> i guess you also have to understand the type of person she is. she's is kind hearted person. she thinks about other people before herself. that becomes very apparent when you get to know her. one thing that is very clear, yesterday, demonstrated on incredible out pouring and ground swell of support from those people that know her and those that do not. so to that extent, there's a great deal of support. and we know some things really don't change. this was a terrible, fwru some, horrific murder. with this type of murder, there would have been evidence of amanda knox in the room. and we know that was not the case. there was no hair, fiber. fingerprint, sweat, saliva, dna of amanda knox in the room. that in and of itself tells you it's an unassailable truth that she was simply not in the room. no country has a mow moply unjustice and wrongful convictions happener where. so this is not a question of nationality or -- or location as much as it is one of a really horrific miss karnl of justice. and she and her family and supporters are hoping this gets reversed. and we're a long way off. >> i want to get into what's next. how do you have any confidence that you can successfully fight to clear her name when you have seen how this legal process has continued? >> well, you know, i -- i use the term hope because i believe she feels and the family feels at someplace there will be a recognition of the truth. and a recognition that there is absolutely no evidence today, there was no evidence before, and there never will be any evidence of her guilt. >> how far out do you think that is? these next steps are months in the coming. >> oh, more than that. we're probably, you know, i would guess probably a year away before the next, you know, proceeding. so you know, again, you know, there's fortitude, there's resilien resilience there's a recognition that she's not guilty. that is a part that remains in the hopeful category. one does not know what the future brings. >> two quick questions. just want to get your take on the reports we have this morning of her former boyfriend, raffaele sollecito. he says he wasn't fleeing. do you know anything about what he was trying to do? >> no i can't speak to that. the first i heard about that was broadcast on cnn. you're in front of us on that. so i really don't know anything about it. but i can tell you something about amanda. amanda has been in complete compliance with all court orders. she was not required to attend these new proceedings. in fact, yesterday, the court recognized she was lawfully in the united states and did not issue any kind of cautionary arrest. so there's a recognition that she is here properly she has complied lawfully and will continue to do so and will continue to fight this case with every bone in her body. her family is fully behind her with a great deal of support and the constant recognition that there's simply a profound loss of evidence. and it's basically incomprehensible how could there be today or yesterday any different verdict than the one that issued before from another appellate court jury that found her -- >> you continue to see this process continue. understandably so. it is early to be talking about any question of extradition. as you said, we have an appeal you need to focus on first. today, if it doesn't go her way are you still 100% confident that she would not be extradited? >> you know, i can understand why that is the question of the day. but it's really not a question that is an issue today or tomorrow or for a long time to come. we have to await the motivation that will be generated by the court. we have to see the basis upon which they have rendered their finding. from that, there will be an appeal. a minimum of one appeal. so, you know, again, i understand why you might be posing the question today, but it's really not right for consideration. and i wouldn't, you know, comment on that at this time. >> more than one bridge to cross before that is something that you'll have to face. it's always great to see you. thank you for taking the time this morning. it's going to be a busy few days for you. >> yes. thank you very much. >> of course. all right. back over to john for more headlines. making news this hour, cnn's exclusive interview with president obama. the president telling jake tapper that he has enlisted 300 companies to consider hiring the long term unemployed. the president also declaring he believes the sochi olympics are secure adding any americans who want to go to the games should go. the air force cheating scandal is growing this morning. 92 nuclear miss l officers are now implicated. 40 officers are suspected of actually sheet cheel -- cheating. while the other 32 allegedly knew about it but failed to report it. the air force officials insist the investigation has not affected u.s. nuclear capability. bill de blasio says the stop and frisk is over. this was a corner stone of the last mayor missing strategy but it was long criticized by civil rights groups who said it unfairly targeted minorities. they will accept a range of reforms including an independent monitor. hundreds of people in detroit could be at risk for tuberculosis. the official said the man worked in four medical facilities between august and december, and did not know he had tb. patients have been notified and encouraged to gets testing. this is something everyone simply needs to see. twerking at harvard. now you might ask why. i say, why not. she was in came bridge. she was named the woman of the year. during their roast they asked her to twerk. she later admitted she tried at home. she called those attempts at home unsuccessful. >> very difficult to do. i don't speak from personal experience. >> i was once the president of said the thee yat calls. >> i have now said that more than you. >> michelle fiver whipped me. >> i've been twice today stunned into silence on the set. we're going to talk about this later. andy scholes, let's get to the bleacher report. andy scholes is at super bowl would. what more do we need to know? >> reporter: it's too cold to twerk out here guys. this matchup shaping up to be a go. and the seahawks have the number one defense. when those two units on the field, the matchup everyone's going to be watching is peyton manning versus richard sherman. sherman said that peyton's passes while they're on time and accurate, they look like ducks flying through the air. having a little fun with it. >> i believe it to be true as well. i mean it's a real reach what he's saying there. i do throw ducks. i've thrown a lot of guards and touchdowns ducks and so i am -- i'm actually quite proud of it. >> reporter: sory chemical nichols is going to have a special edition of unguarded right here on super bowl would tonight. she's going to sit down with john elway who talks about getting the broncos back to the super bowl. >> you know, as a player, this is the biggest game of your career. and you know, especially as a quarterback. there's a lot of things that ride on this game because of the fact that the attention that the game gets. you're a lot more in the background which is more enjoyable. >> reporter: that's it for us out here at super bowl would. i'm going to go get in the bus and warm up again. you can watch that whole interview right here on cnn 10:30 tonight. it's very nice out here. a little chilly. >> you're in the middle of the most exciting place to be all week. no complaining. and i do take exception. you know i have to defend peyton. his ducks are better than most quarterbacks perfect passes. just saying. >> lots of record setting ducks thrown this year. >> you know how i feel about that. great to see you and your ear muffs. i can't engage in conversation because of the other conversation. a man has a medical emergency just steps away from a fire house but firefighters reportedly stood by and did nothing as the man was dying. also ahead, super bowl ads carrying a super price tag. $4 million for a 30-second spot. anything for their buck. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] a car that is able to see, to calculate, to think -- and can respond to what it encounters. ♪ even if that means completely stopping itself. it's the stuff of science fiction... minus the fiction. the 2014 e-class. see your authorized dealer for exceptional offers through mercedes-benz financial services. there's nothing like being your own boss! and my customers are really liking your flat rate shipping. fedex one rate. really makes my life easier. maybe a promotion is in order. good news. i got a new title. and a raise? 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[ screaming ] do you remember laughing with this? feeling really uncomfortable during this or rooting for this adorable little kid? you know you liked watching them but do you even remember what those commercials were for? believe it or not despite all the buzz a recent study shows 80% of those ads don't make people buy the stuff they are selling. so why are companies spending big bucks on ads year after year? >> they do it because if it is successful the game is tremendous. >> reporter: some experts say the super bowl ad craze started 30 years ago when steve jobs took a chance by airing a controversial ad for apple's debut of the macintosh computer, drawing parallels between ibm computers and the conformist society in go, orwell's society "1984." >> apple saw a huge spike in macintosh sales. that was the benchmark and is still the benchmark today that people use to decide whether or not a super bowl ad is effective. >> reporter: that ad costs hundreds of thousands of dollars to produce. since then the cost from duce and air commercials has skyrocketed. in the past decade "forbes" magazine said money spent on advertising in the super bowl has doubled from $150 million to more than $300 million because it's one of the few tv events of the year as evidently dvr proof. >> we don't want to show up the next day and say we want to watch the super bowl on tape tonight, we want to watch it live. that's why the super bowl with over 100 million people watching it live commands the price for advertising it does. >> reporter: since companies are spending that money on a few hours of tv broadcasting some now release teasers weeks ahead of the big game to garner buzz online. david beckham may score points. >> you go there and vote at the end of this commercial. everybody loves david beckham. >> reporter: others may fall short of the goal mine. >> two professional teams will be playing a game in honor of my first wonderful pistachio's commercial. >> that's a flop. wonderful pistachios will not see a bounce because of that commercial. >> reporter: will we talk about that or will that commercial fall flat? a lot of questions we'll be asking. those 30 second super bowl ads we know they are expensive. did you know they are more expensive than any other sporting broadcast. more expensive than the world series, game seven of the nba finals, olympics, more expensive. i was giving you some stats this morning. i have stats folks with me. jonathan becker and alexisgl imi ck. alexis, i want to talk with you. you partner up with the super bowl for fuel up to play 60. >> it's an investment by 50,000 of america's dairy farmers in partnership with the national football league to empower students in the school building to eat healthy and get "60 minutes" of physical activity daily. the most amazing thing about it is we're in 73,000 schools. we're reaching 38 million kids a day and fun is fundamental. everything we're doing is about empowering the kids to create their own solution. >> reporter: it's a good thing, kids aren't moving. childhood obesity is an important issue, it's a problem. jonathan you guys at s.a.p. recognize this problem. >> we love this initiative, encouraging the future entrepreneurs. we're about the innovative spirit. we want to inspire people through technology. we made a commitment to ask how can kids growing up with technology know it's pervasive in their lives. >> reporter: technology is so important to boston you and also important to fund this initiative. you guys are partnering up to give some reason? >> yes. they are kindly giving us $3 million to help foster social entrepreneurism in students. they are empowering kids. and innovator and technology company like s.a.p. will take us to place we thought never possible. our young venture capital kids are excited, these mini venture capitalists. >> reporter: the ideas are great but you need known fund it. isn't that right? >> absolutely right. >> reporter: thank you so much. next up on "new day" a cnn exclusive you will not want to miss, folks. in just moments, chris cuomo sits down with dennis rodman for a live one on one interview. straight from the superstar's rehab facility. dennis rodman unscripted, unedited. we have no idea where this one is going, folks. just ahead. >> about the situation in north korea and basically anything that's on his mind. we're going to get all of that in just a second but there's other news this morning as well. let's bring it back to new york so you can get the headlines. >> there's a lot to get to here in new york. breaking this morning, amanda knox speaks out about her second conviction in italy. she said she will never go back to the country willingly. we also have that cnn exclusive the president going one on one with jake tapper. and his take on the new pope. let's get back over to john berman for other top stories. >> u.s. attorney general eric holder says prosecutors plan to seek the death penalty against dzhokhar tsarnaev. tsarnaev has pleaded not guilty. no trial date has been set. happening today syrian peace talks wrap up in geneva with little or no progress made on most issues. john kerry and other world leaders head to germany where the discussions will continue at the munich security conference. the united states is now also accusing the syrian government of stalling on its commitment to remove chemical weapons from that country. this is not the news the family of dennis bae wanted to hear. the ambassador to britain said in an interview they don't plan to release the missionary until he serves out his sentence of 15 years of hard labor. the diplomat say he's being treated well and denies he's being held in a labor camp. bae was leading a tour group in north korea when he was arrested and jailed for what they call anti-government acts. a nasty summit bug hits a second cruise ship in the span of a week. the cdc expected to board the "caribbean princess" cruise ship today because the norovirus made people sick on that ship. on wednesday a royal caribbean cruise got cut short there after nearly 700 crew and passengers got sick also from suspected norovirus. new this morning officials at an elementary school in salt lake city apologizing for taking food away from children with negative balances in their lunch accounts. they are acknowledging they could have handled the situation better. many of the kids cried when their lunch trace were just taken away from them, infurriating parents who claimed they were never informed of issues with these accounts. >> let's go to our exclusive interview with president obama. he sat down with jake tapper to talk about a lot of topics including marijuana and whether it should be decriminalizing. and the president weighing in on the upcoming winter games. and with or without congress president plan to throw a lifeline to the long term unemployed saying he has several major corporations on board. >> folks are looking at that gap in their resume and weeding them out before these be folks get a chance for an interview. so what we've done is to gather together 300 companies just to start with, including some of the top 50 companies in the country, companies like walmart and apple and ford and others to say let's establish best practices. do not screen people out of the hiring process just because they have been out of work for a long time. >> a lot of members of congress and not just like the fringe ones, the ones who are serious lawmakers have said to cnn that they would not let their family members go to sochi. that they are not confident that it will be safe. >> what i would say is if you want to go to the olympics, you should go to the olympics, and we're not discouraging in anyway americans participating in what is always an amazing wonderful event. >> are you considering not making marijuana a schedule one narcotic >> marijuana for casual users, individual users is subject to abuse just like alcohol is. and should be treated as a public health problem and challenge. but as i said in the interview my concern is when you end up having very heavy criminal penalties for individual users that have been applied unevenly and in some cases with racial disparity. >> you can watch the full interview today on the lead at 4:00 p.m. eastern. also much of this interview will be the topic of discussion on john king's show inside politic, the show is returning to cnn this sunday 8:30 a.m. eastern. now we will get to chris's live interview with dennis rodman in just one moment. first some breaking news this morning. amanda knox speaking out after the latest chapter in her legal saga. an emotional knox was defiant saying she will never go back to italy willingly and expected better from the courts. knox was convicted of murder again despite already being acquit on the very same charge. erin mclaughlin is back with us from florence of what knox had to say and getting her reaction. good morning, erin. >> reporter: good morning. it was an emotional intervul with gma robin roberts. amanda's voice seemed shaky at other times she was strong. take a listen. >> my first reaction was no, this is wrong, and i'm going to do everything i can to, to prove that it is. and i felt very determined and my family felt very determined. but it was only on my way here that i really got my first cry. i talked to don sallo, the priest in the prison, we've stayed in contact and he reminded me that people still believe in me and that, like this is an experience that i have to testify to. that -- that really horrible things can happen and you have to stand up for yourself and you have to believe that it's going to be okay. i will never go willingly back to the place where -- i'm going to fight this until the very end, and it's not right. and it's not fair. and i'm going to do everything i can. granted, i need a lot of help. i can't do this on my own and i can't help people understand this on my own. >> meanwhile the victim, meredith kercher's brother and sister speaking out this morning as well saying that nothing will bring meredith back, adding that they would support amanda knox's extradition from the united states if it came to that. as for raffaele sollecito, we're hearing from italian police that he has been detained in northern italy. he was found in a hotel at 1:00 a.m. in the morning near the border of austria and slovenia. he was found with his girlfriend. police were looking for him after a court order to seize his travel documents. we frunds his lawyer that he's currently still at the police station sorting all of this out insisting that he was not trying to run. kate? >> we'll talk about the next legal steps for amanda knox later on in the show. first let's get back to our other big story this morning and to chris. >> all right, kate, thank you very much. i'm here now with dennis rodman. we're in a rehabilitation facility. you wanted to have this interview. you had some things you wanted to get off your chest. let's start with the obvious. why are you here? why are you here, dennis? >> why am i here? i think it goes back a while, a way back. i think the fact all the things i've been going through the last year and a half, certain situations and i figured that this is a great time for me to come here to reflect and try to put myself at ease, at peace about things that's been going on in the last year and a half. and i thought this was an appropriate time to be here to try to gather my thoughts, gather my views about life and which direction i wanted to go. >> how do you work on controlling alcohol? >> well, i wish people wouldn't say it like that. i've always been a party animal. and i've always said to the media and to the world that, you know what? i don't hurt anyone. i never carry a gun. i never had a gun. i don't have a knife. i don't have anything that would damage anyone's, their future about what they do in life. that's not my job. my job is to do one thing and that is to be a professional entertainer and human being on this planet to entertain people and keep them happy and keep them strong and keep people's spirits uplifting. i think i've done a great job at that. but i think for me, the reason i drink is because i'm bored. >> you drink because you're bored. >> absolutely. i've been saying that for years. ever since 1993. i need to be active. i need to be productive and keep my mind on life in general. >> but drinking does all the opposite things doesn't it, dennis? >> you know, you want to ask all the hard questions. i'm the only guy in the world to answer these questions. i come straight at you. i speak from my heart and i speak from my sleeves. you ask me anything in the world. >> you think i'm asking you hard questions or obvious one. we're in a rehab center. first step we admit we're powerless over alcohol. >> if you give a person that you give an interview to, an opportunity to speak out. i've been in rehab, but for me rehab -- i don't have to drink. i came to the realization 15 years ago, i don't really have to drink, you know. i don't need to go in a bar or a restaurant and go for alcohol. that's not my job. i did it for recreational purposes. like most people in the world when they go to the bar or a restaurant 90% have a drink. could it be a glass of wine. it could be anything that's very simple. and for me it's more like i love to have a good time. i love to be around people to have a good time. and for me, yes, i admitted so many times hey i drink and people know that. and am ian alcoholic? absolutely. i can't deny that. >> did you dome rehab to try to control the addiction and try to take it out of your life or something else? >> i said it to dr. drew. i'm a human first. the one thing that people for human beings in america has always done or people in america they always have gave people first, second, third chances. and to redeem themselves and to be a part of society with or without alcohol, with or without drugs people always have that heart of hearts knowing people are trying to get help. >> let's talk redemption. last interview we had were you drunk in that interview? >> oh, my god, really? >> were you? that's what i've been told. >> you know what? i think the fact that when i was in north korea, after the game, stuff like that, yes, we had -- absolutely we had a lot of drinks. we partied after the game. we went back to the hotel. we had some wine and sake. >> during the interview were you of right mind? >> it wasn't about me being in the right mind. i want people to understand this. it wasn't about that. i think the fact when a certain person asks you a question when they are not supposed to ask you that question at that particular time knowing the fact that i wasn't in the state to really properly answer that question, i think it was unfair. but, you know -- >> your answer was the way it was because you thought me asking it was unfair. >> i think the fact that you wanted a story you could have at least asked me first. i think that was the proper thing to do and at the moment, you know, i didn't think too much about it and i told you before this interview i said i don't hate you. you're doing your job. i'll treat you like anybody else. i'll shake your hand, hug you, go out and have a cigar. >> i asked the question because it's so obvious, they are so important to how people view you and what's going on with this situation. that i cannot ask them. >> absolutely. >> when you call somebody a friend who a lot of people believe is one of the most dangerous people in the world, you got to answer for that. you got to explain it. >> absolutely. >> so the question is now that you've had some time to get your thoughts together here do you believe that trip was something you shouldn't have done. the way you acted in that interview you shouldn't have done? >> i'll do a press conference next week in new york and like i told you i'll have an open mic for any press that wants to come and see this interview they can ask me anything in the world about north korea. like i said i speak from my heart. like i said, i'm a human first. what i said in the media, stuff like that. i said i don't know him as a dictator. with him he's a 31-year-old guy and i call him a kid all the time and yeah he's my friend. i look at him as that because he gave me the opportunity to at least come in to the country of north korea to bring a basketball team, to show the world, just show the world that we can actually get along. i wasn't trying to look in the history book and what went on what his grandfather or father, that wasn't my job. >> or him. >> or him. that wasn't my job. that wasn't my assignment to go over, hey, kim jong-un can i come over here and ask you questions why you're such a bad guy. we go into the political stage of this that wasn't my job. i said that from day one. i'm not an ambassador. i'm not a diplomat. that's not my job. >> i agree. >> my job was to go and do one thing, to go do a documentary with a team from beijing and we did the documentary stuff right there. >> did you go over there originally because you were getting paid or out of some sense of purpose or both? >> i'll explain it like this. i didn't think i was going to north korea at all. that popped out of the blue. this company in beijing wanted us to do a documentary with them about north korea. >> it was about getting paid also, right? >> the one thing that anyone in the world especially professional basketball, anything like that, i said guess what? you can pay me a dollar i'll still play the game of basketball. phil jackson, anybody in the world -- it's not about the money. it's never been about the money. >> it's not about the money. you go there to do the documentary. i get you're not an ambassador. i get that. i get you're not about the politics. i get that. but you have to get that when you call this man your friend, and you seem to suggest that he's not a bad guy, and see there's not to you. he's eat ear good guy or a bad guy and there's really not a close call on this, dennis, because of the atrocities that's happened there that he's responsible for, the regime, the oppression, what's happened with his uncle. you got to deal with that. he can be whatever you want him to be to you but you have to be open with people being upset with the idea when you call him a friend and a good guy when he does very bad things. do you get that? >> i get that. but i say the same thing like wow, you know, i keep dealing people i'm not there to be an ambassador to try to figure out why did you go -- why are you doing all these things. that's not my job. my job is to go there and do one thing. to go there and see if i can bring two countries together for a couple of days. >> just avoid it. just avoid talking about him at all. don't say he's a good guy. >> you know what? you know what's amazing. since i've been in this place here, you know gorbachev? >> i do. >> did anybody say the fact that gorbachev was president of russia and we went over there to make amends and blend us and russia together did anybody talk about that? as i've been saying tv, i don't know anything about plirks tv, russia was the first country to have nuclear wars, nuclear weapons while we as americans as we always do. we as americans are on the forefront that would take anyone in because we love people. we love people in america. i love people. i'm not judging because, you know, that person did something really, really bad. i don't know. >> you can know. the answer is yes, he did. you have to judge him by what he did. he's not a person looking for a new chance. >> i know that. but, you know what? i think in the bible, everyone reads the bible, right? >> and? >> no matter what color, what creed or what bloodline you are we on this planet we're human beings first. i'm sorry people think i'm just leaning towards he's a great guy i want to live in north korea. no. >> the first part is though he's a great guy, i don't know him that way. i don't know what he did. he's my friend. >> i look at him like -- chris, i'll ask you a question one thing. let me ask you a question. >> please. >> you were in north korea? >> no i haven't been there. i'll go with you. >> you go with me. i'll give you this opportunity now on national tv, on national tv, i will take you over there and introduce you to him. >> great. . it you to come back here and tell the world, tell the world in "person to person" is he a nice guy when you meet him. when you meet him. not politics. when you meet him and sit down and have dinner with him. i want you to come -- i'm giving you and invitation. >> i take the invitation. i take the invitation. >> i want you to go over there and see with your own eyes. i'm not worried about the politics. if he does these things -- >> there's no if. >> i don't go to the camps. i don't do anything. >> that's your choice. but they are there. >> that's great. that's great. i'm sorry. >> you don't have to apologize for it. it's not your fault. i'm just saying you have to understand when you make this man into something he's not it upsent people. that's it. i take your invitation. let's see how i feel when i meet him. i'll go whenever you want. i would be surprised, i'll tell you this, dennis as close and as tight as you are with this man i would be surprised if they let me come with you. i would be surprised. you have to ask why. why don't we want this guy? >> you know what? please, people take this in the right way. i'm not trying to take the spotlight away from the super bowl. it's a great week for people in new york and around the world. great weekend. but i want to come on and say this because i want people to understand this. you know, i'm not a traitor. i've never been a traitor. i want to make people happy in the world. that's my goal. is to make people happy. i've done everything in the world between the time i was born to 52 years old. i'm still living. i'm so happy the fact i got great people around me. >> people believe in you. >> people believe in me. >> people think you have a good heart. >> i have a great heart. my intentions are not bad intentions. i want people to understand that. when i was playing basketball people loved the hell out of me. >> they still do. they came at me for the last interview. a lot of people support you. that's not what it's about. i want to take a quick break. we'll give the show a little bit of a rest. it puts us to where we are right now, you're trying to figure out what comes next four and here and here and in the outside world. i'm very interested in where you'll go from here. let's take a break and we'll come back with dennis. >> all right. 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what's that struggle about? >> just release a lot inhibition of dennis rodman. they say you create this monster, dennis and you can't get out. i can get out. it depends do i want to get out. like being in rehab or whatever, trying to face your, you know, your inhibit tmpinhibitions and. >> what is it like for you >> it's like a seesaw. i've had the opportunity of all the years to try to balance it out and i've told myself and other people, you know what? yes, i tell people absolutely if i drink two or three days in a row, yes i'm an alcoholic. absolutely. i have no shame in that. i told dr. drew when i was on the show that, he asked me can you stop drinking and i said i don't think so. that's honest. >> what does that mean to you you can't stop drinking. >> i've seen myself -- i've seen myself grow up at the age of 45, 50 years old. i'm always a kid at heart first but in the last five years i've really grown up to have my eyes open instead of walking around with blinders and thinking i'm the shit. >> we're on cable. >> i said i'm here to do one thing to keep everything in perspective. to realize that i don't need to put myself in harm's way to drink or anything. >> but people are worried about you. look, we joke around about what this interview, what are hard questions and what isn't. north korea is what it is. that situation is what is it. i'll tell you what the hard discussion is. that's the big reason. this is no joke what goes on in a place like this. and i have less concern about what happens with you and foreign policy than i do about how you take this opportunity, what it means because people don't come here just to get their head together. if you want to face up, everybody drinks for a reason, dennis. never just to have a good time. you know that. i don't need to lecture you about it. it's hard. i know it's hard. i'm not hearing that process. it sounds like this is a little rest point for you to collect yourself and move forward as opposed to taking on addiction. is that fair? >> i've had my addiction for the last 20 years. you don't think it takes effect? yes, it does. >> you still drink too much sometimes and make people worried about you. >> it's like saying to me if i see somebody else -- if i saw say -- if i saw you -- say if i saw you drinking and you drank two or three days in a row, is it my responsibility to tell you i care about you would you stop drinking? >> yes it is. >> is that going to make you to stop drinking because i said so? >> no, i have to bottom out. >> that's what i've been doing for the last 15, 20 years. >> bottoming out? >> i've been curbing my addiction. when you come in to a rehab facility and the doctor will tell enthusiast, anyone who comes to any rehab no matter what it is, alcohol, drugs, sex, whatever, they want to you come in as an addiction. >> as an addict. >> as an addict. when you come in to the rehab, they don't just cut you off completely. they don't do that. they have to do one thing. they wean you off slowly. understand it. they just don't say hey stop drinking now. >> it's hard. >> way too hard. you got to have a few days to get everything -- >> this is important stuff. this is the process. this is what people need to hear. let's take a break and bring in the doctor. dennis rodman is a famous man. a lot of people find themselves right here and don't know where to go. let's bring in the doctor. we'll take a break on "new day". dennis and his doctors are trying to chart the course forward. ♪ [ male announcer ] what kind of energy is so abundant, it can help provide the power for all this? natural gas. ♪ more than ever before, america's electricity is generated by it. exxonmobil uses advanced visualization and drilling technologies to produce natural gas... powering our lives... while reducing emissions by up to 60%. energy lives here. ♪ welcome back to "new day" and of course with dennis rodman. we're with one of his doctors. we're talking about the process what we're heepg for dennis and others that find themselves in this process. we were talking about redemption and putting north korea in the past. one thing, you're in here, trying to process thoughts. do you have something that you feel is important to say to your teammates who were there with you to the bae family. your words meant a lot to them a lot in a hurtful way. maybe now there's some healing for to you do. something you want to say to them. >> i'll say it again, i'm not an ambassador and i tried to describe it and tell people just because i know the marshal, that doesn't mean i know the marshal like that. i don't know anything about the guy kenneth bae. i know nothing about him. i didn't know who he was. people thought i knew. >> you also suggested in the interview that he had done something wrong. >> i never said what he did because i didn't know what he did. >> you suggested like he did something wrong. >> i went back to the question, do you know what de. people respond so badly. >> you don't think he did anything wrong? >> to this day i still don't know what he did. i never suggested i knew. >> do you want to apologize to the bae family. >> i don't know the bae family. i don't want anyone -- if any country or anyone to be hostage for something they did or did not do. i'm not in government. i don't know how that works. dealing with the bae family, like i say i feel for them. i feel for them deeply. like i said, i will do anything, literally, anything this is dennis rodman talking. if they say we'll take dennis rodman and let kenneth bae go, straightaway take me. >> that offer is very generous. that offer -- >> i will do that. >> when i go to mostly cloudy with you don't say take him and let kenneth bae. >> i would do that. you would exchange yourself for him. >> i have no problem. >> 15 years of hard labor. >> like i said, i don't want to get into that. obama if he wants to address that, stuff like that and just to clear it up, people think i hate obama. i think obama has done a hell of a job. i give him credit. you catch me saying certain things off key like ice my fault. i like the guy. >> so you own what you said in the past. you apologize for what you said in the past. now we come forward. dock, to as we were talking earlier, i've spontaneity lot of time as you know over the years understanding, working in and around the rehab process. this is unusual to have somebody who wants to come in during the treatment and see it as part of their healing process. explain to it me, doc. >> much like he said before it's very unusual in the middle of a process for someone to start asking and start probing and taking the focus off what it is you might be working on. you know, i was struck by something that was said before and i just -- it's on my mind i don't want it to get lost when somebody says i party. there's million americans this weekend, this super bowl is coming up that are going to party from friday to sunday. and monday maybe. and they are going to say i don't have a problem. i just party. they have a problem. families suffer. people suffer. you know, there's, i think, going into much like you said, going into a place like this, beginning to sort of understand yourself and understand do i have a problem, can i cutback, does it work for me? some people can. some people can't. >> why do you believe it can be healing for dennis to come out and talk about these issues and put out there how he really feels. how is that part of the process? >> well, working your steps, making amends. it's a part of the process. but one of the things that is unorthodox to do it here now but one of the things that was happening with dennis and much like you see, this son his mind. it's on his mind 24/7. many times you can't start do the work until you take care of some things and i think this is important for him. >> does it make stoins? >> it makes sense. you can't come in and say i want to treat this problem. you have to treat everything that's been a big trig tour over the years. >> do you know what those things are? >> i don't have a trigger. the only trigger i have is the fact that i need to be a better father. i got a couple of things in my life i need to pay attention to. and hopefully people will look at me and say at least i'm trying. i'm not coming here and say great he's here for vacatio. >> have you seen dennis working the program while he's in here? >> sure. i've spent hours with him. spent a lot of time with him. >> what has to happen to go forward? what has to happen? for this to actually work what has to happen on your side and then i want to hear what the doctor thinks about what you say. >> well, you know, people see me in public and the first thing people say we just saw him at a club, we just saw him at a hotel. the first picture you're going to see me he had a drink. that didn't work for dennis. really? north korea and all this other stuff. for me it's going to work. the fact i can't go out there and preach the 12 steps of being sober. i can't do that. >> you're not following it. >> doesn't matter if i follow them in one through 12 or six to 12. if i can do at least half of that, half the battle is won. if i can do half of that, in my own way if i can do it great. at least i've tried. i tried. >> can you not drink? >> no. >> can you not drink? >> it's like saying can i not drink? >> you mean water? >> can you not -- >> i don't need to abuse alcohol. that's not on my mind. if i don't have anything to do yes i go and smoke my cigars and have a good time. absolutely. i can say that with a straight face? no. if i have a drink great. am i relapsing? i don't think so. i'm telling the world i'm trying to do it. >> doctor, it rarely works that way. >> it rarely works that way. one thing i was struck by -- you know, dennis, we have a lot of science now that tells us many thing but one of the first things i learned when i came to this field are people, places and things. dennis lives in an environment where he is in clubs, he is sort of on the stage. he was telling me he walks into a bar and before he sits down people bought him ten drinks. even somebody with the best recovery would be a challenge by that. he has a challenge that way. >> can you leave this facility, i'm talk towing directly, can you go in any facility and then go to a restaurant and know you're a drinker and they say here's ten drinks. every where you go here's ten drinks. let's have a shot. let's have a shot all time. literally all the time. >> dennis it's your choice. >> i know it's my choice. i'm asking a question. i go to restaurants and bars. >> you can't drink. >> i was sober for 19 months. i did it by myself. >> that's great. >> my friends took care of me when i was in bars. he's not drinking. i have great friends. great friends around me. and you keep wanting to say guess what, dennis is not following the steps. >> i'm one of the people who wants to see you do your best. >> i'm never going to dive alcohol. i'm never going to die of alcohol. guys, if you want to help me, when i come out please be free to say dennis thank you, you're trying. do that for me. >> doctor, thank you for being part of this process. dennis, i appreciate the opportunity. i'll talk to you whenever you want. i'll go with you to north korea. but we know you got to watch my back. >> i got you, brother. >> all right. we'll take a break. we'll be right back with "new day". oh, hi there bill. hey! are you in town for another meeting? 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[ male announcer ] it's not complicated. new smartphone plans starting at $45 a month, with no annual contract. only from at&t. welcome back to "new day". time now for the five things you need to know for your new day. amanda knox defiantly saying she will never go back to italy. she spoke for the first time this morning since her ex-boyfriend were convicted of meredith kercher. convicted again. >> fantasia barrino enliptsed 300 u.s. companies to consider hiring the long term unemployed. the entire exclusive interview with jake tapper can be seen on "the lead" today. dennis rodman on the road to recovery. chris cuomo talking about the former nba star facing his demons. the cdc is expected to board another cruise ship dealing with a nasty stomach bug. the caribbean princess is back in part. another cruise ship was cut short earlier this week after passengers got sick. the super bowl now just two days away. the seattle seahawks take on the denver broncos at met life stadium in new jersey. the broncos two point favorites the weather forecast not looking so bad at this point. we're always updating the five things you need to know. so go "new day" cnn.com for the latest. coming up next on "new day" more on the amanda knox verdict. she's speaking out this morning. she says she won't go back to italy willingly but could she be forced to go? we spoke with her u.s. attorney earlier in the show and now we'll bring in our legal experts to debate. i have the flu, i took medicine but i still have symptoms. 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[ male announcer ] you're welcome. ready? go. . breaking this morning, amanda knox speaking out for the first time since an italian court found her guilty once again in the murder of her former roommate. knox says she was not willing, she will not willingly go back to an italian prison any time soon but could she be forced too? could she be extradited? let's talk about the process going forward with jose baez and sunny hostin. a lot of questions here. it's always difficult between the italian legal system and the u.s. legal system so you guys have been covering this really from the beginning. let's talk about this. sony we had amanda knox's u.s. attorney on earlier in the show and he said this process is far from over. he said the next step could be a year out when they move forward with this appeal. what do you make of it? >> that makes sense. the written decision outlining why, you know, she was found guilty again is still unclear. that decision is going to come out in about 90 days. we don't know the reasoning. there's another 90-day opportunity to appeal it. the last appeal took quite a bit of time. we're a year out in terms of appeal. ultimately i think this is going to turn into an extradition fight. i suspect the italian supreme court is going to affirm this conviction and then the fight begins. the real question is a year from now will the united states agree to extradite her to italy. >> jose that begs the question even before the united states posed that question i even wonder i think if it gets to this point do you think italy will ask for extradition. >> i think they will. they are going through a lot of trouble right now to try these cases with or without her being present so, yes, they are going to extradite her. i disagrees slight iwith sony. granted the process will take a while but there's nothing stopping them for asking for extradition now. she's been convicted now. sure there are appellate processes that need to move forward in italy but that doesn't stop them from moving forward and asking for extradition now. once that happens that process will take an extensive period of time where it goes from the department of state all the way through the entire extradition process but the key will be for amanda will the court grant her a bond while she's fighting extradition. because if not she will be detained here in the united states and it could be a long drawn out battle where she will have to do that behind bars. >> sonic all along we said it's unlikely the state department who step in and extradite an american to italy. >> i would disagree with jose. no way she's going to be held behind bars. italy won't extradite her now. it's too premature. i suspect the united states will not hand her over to italy. lot of this evidence wouldn't have passed constitutional or judicial muster here in the united states and we have that constitutional right of double jeopardy. i mean in the united states the fact that she was convicted, but then reversed on appeal and acquit and sent home means this should have been over for her. the fact that there's this tension in the law between italy and the united states, i can't imagine that the united states is going say, you know, italy now you got three times to try her over and over and over again and we'll hand our citizen over to you. it's just not going to happen. i see jose shaking his head. you know i'm right. >> look, someone who is not an attorney, not smart in terms of the italian legal system. she's went convicted once, overturned once, convicted twice what stops it from them overturning it twice. >> 90% kpraft additions is for someone to be extradited to stand trial. she's already stood trial a couple of times. so there is nothing stopping them coming and asking for extradition. i disagree severely with sonny. the arguments sonny is making is for her to fight it through a habeas corpus violation. what's unique about this case is a lot of the pre-trial publicity. jurors aren't sequestered. that the united states might find is a failure of due process for amanda and that would be a unique argument to this specific case. >> this is an amazing and complex legal drama playing out. we have to be there's a family still suffering. meredith kercher's family trying to get some closure to what happened to their loved one. this is interesting. i want to continue this conversation. we'll wrap it up. great to see both of you. happy friday, guys. that does it for "new day" everyone. carol costello and "newsroom" begins right after a quick break. 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