of the investigation and quite frankly, this has become best practice in my profession. joining us today is mr. joe who is superintendent of the pure of communal investigations. i want to thank you for being here today and i also want to thank you for your willingness to take this investigation on. the conclusion of viewing the two videos, i will share a few comments, and open up the press conference for comment. please keep in mind, that as you ask your questions, mayor horgan and i may not be able to answer your question. first and foremost, we may not have the information. secondly, we don t want to do anything that directly impacts the credibility and independency of this investigation, so we are going to both be mindful of how we respond. since i just arrived here in ohio ten months ago, there may
meeting, any meeting you want to the person who asked. to which ultimately did, he got so frustrated, but he ultimately did. this, this meeting was the same day i believe that the arizona certified him of the event of the presidential election in arizona. did you meet mr. giuliani and his associates when they were in phoenix sometime after that reported legislative hearing at that time? i did, sir. and that meeting, did mr. giuliani raids any specific allegations of election fraud again? is an initial comments were, again, the litany of groups of illegal individuals or people deceased, sarah. he brought that up. i wasn t alone in that meeting. there were others and other members of the senate aggressively questioned him and then i proceeded to question
him on the proof that he was going to bring, it s veteran. he did bring those up, yes. he said the legislators were republican members of the senate? they were, yes or. they also press him for proof of these allegations? they pressed him very strongly. two of them especially, very strongly. and at some point, did mr. giuliani ask one of the other attorneys on his team to help them help with the evidence? he did. he asked jenna ellis, sitting to his right. one thing was it was more to the point of, was there sufficient evidence or action that we could justify the recounting of the electors? at that part of the conversations i know he referred to someone else. but he did ask, do we have the proof? to jenna, miss alice, and she said yes. i said, i want the names. do you have the names?
the right answer comes out you ll be praised. i mean. i don t know why, you know, they ve made so hard. they will be praised. people will say, grace. because that s what it s about. that ability check and to make it right. because everyone knows it s wrong. there s just no way. mr. raffensperger, i know you weren t on this call but that you have a listen to it. president trump didn t win by hundreds of thousands of votes in georgia, did he? no he did not. i ve been traveling through the state of georgia for a year now and idea, simply put, in a nutshell, would happen in the fall of 2020 was that 20,000 georgians skipped the presidential rate. they voted down ballot and other races. the republican congressman that ended up getting 33,000 more votes than president trump, that s why president trump came up short. thank you mister secretary. president, on this call,
he lost was no longer appropriate. remember i either replied or call it somebody who said if we don t have litigation pending how is this appropriate. this isn t the right thing to do. i don t how i phrased it. i got into a bit of a back and forth, i think it was with can cheese borough where he said. i m out. at that point, i had josh finley email mr. chavez burrow politely to say this is your task. you are responsible for the electoral college issues moving forward. this was my way of taking that responsibility to zero. the when you learned that the white house counsel s office also learned that the plan was potentially illegal. did you hear the white house counsel s office say that this plan to have alternate electors