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will use the year-end spending bill to shut downen the federal government if more than 700,000 people here illegally under daca don't get amnesty. now, a single paragraph from a "politico" piece yesterday on the negotiations tells you everything you need to know about how democrats arekn looking at immigration policy now. "congressional republicans in the white house have long said thate any daca deal would need to be paired with security and other enforcement measures. democrats say that's fine as long as the provisions weren't too onerous." in other words, democrats are fine with borderds enforcement, just as long as it doesn't work. that's why they are against the wall. the administration has w already moved on the central point of the debate. they say daca recipients can stay here legally. but, in return, their family members must be explicitly barred from benefiting chain migration. if those relatives want to come to this country, they have got to get in line with everybody else trying to come to this country. employers, meanwhile, ought to be required to use everify so that they can prove ail their employees are here legally. cities must cooperate in helping to enforce american immigration law. these are not crazy demands. it's not extreme to say that amnesty should be limited to dreamers and not their extended family and other countries. it's not extreme to say that employers ought to followou existing federal statutes or that big city mayors should stop pretending they run their own countries. these are basic ideas theyey treat existing relation law as real. something that should be enforced. they assume not every single person on earth has thee. moral right to enter this country for any reason and go on public assistance. by the way the public agrees with those ideas, strongly if you believe the polls on the subject. democrats don't believe in them. any measure that makes it harder for immigrants tora come here illegally and stay forever at public expense is racist and immoral. they have said that repeatedly. why do they think that? is there some good reason to think that? is there any economist on the planet who believes the key to thriving in a high tech economy is importing millions of poor people with fifth grade education who don't speak english? is that good for your country? of course not. but democrats don't see immigration as a way to improve the united states. but, instead, as a way to transform the country to their political advantage. there is no precedent for this attitude in american politics. it's never happened. traditionally politicians try win votes by improving the lives of voters. it's pretty simple. it's been going on a long time. herbert hoover, a chicken in every pot, a car in every garage that was his promise during the 1928 campaign, he won. voters appreciate it. they always do appreciate it if they think you are trying to help them. bill clinton got elected twice because he campaigned on actual tangible concerns of middle class people. that all seems like ancient history. democrats don't do that anymore. modern democrats understand changing the minds of voters is hard. especially when you despise them and attack them for the sin of, i don't know, being white or male or privileged or heteronormative or whatever. they don't like you if you don't like them. so, you don't bother changing their minds. you change the voters themselves.u look at virginia. it just happened there. the state's elected representatives decided long ago they didn't want the state's laws made by those who break them so they deprived convicted felons of the right to vote. terry mcauliffe knew it would benefit his party if felon could vote again, so he unilaterally restored those rights and attacked anyone who disagreed as a bigot. remember that? currently control over virginia's house of delegates hinges on a single race where the candidates literally tied with more than 23,000 votes cast. in other words, mcauliff's gamut work why not try it onth a national scale group larger than convicte felons? democrats know if they keep up the flood of illegals they could turn it into a flood voters for them. they don't have to foster economic growth or be capable administrators or provide good government. they just have to keep the pump flowing and power willpu be theirs. it's not a conspiracy theory it's happening in public. you can watch it happen. when democrats howl about shutting down the government because they want total surrender on daca, remember, this is the reason why. their political success does not depend on good policies but on demographic replacement and they'll do anything to make sure it happens. one more thing, by the way. in the interest of nonpartisan fairness and honesty, which we believe in, it's not just democrats who believe in protecting illegal immigrants at all cost. senator jeff flake of arizona, he is retiring but he is still a republican. he agreed to support the g.o.p. tax plan in return for the promise of an amnesty deal.. you thought the tax plan was about cutting your taxes or making our economy stronger. doing something for this country. but for jeff flake, and likely for other republicans on capitol hill, i hate to say it. but it's true. the real priority was making sure that not a single illegal was ever deported. that's what they really care about. congressman democrat who represents the state of california joins us. thanks for coming on. >> good to be with you. >> tucker: the priority is really revealing. all the things going on in this country, a lot of them bad, and democrats in the congress have said the one thing we won't put up with is not giving amnesty toe 700,000 people here illegally.0, why is that number one on the list of concerns? >> it may or may not be number one. it is among the list. it is one of the issues on the list, there are others. there are the healthcare issues that are out there. the 9 million children in the children's health insurance program, want to get that funded without cutting other essential health programs, which is the current proposal that'ss being put forward. so there are series of issues. there is the healthcarees issue. there is certainly the issue, daca is one of them. actually, we kind of stand with the u.s. chamber of commerce on this one. >> tucker: i bet.he you are taking money from the same people. i just wonder -- >> we do? >> tucker: sure. this is a concern of big business, of donors. they want cheap labor. >> it's more than that. >> tucker: is there any economist you ever met the key to prosperity is importing a lot of poor people with low levels of education? >> that's quite different than the daca issue. the daca issue are usually young men and women who came here as children with their parents. many young children, five years, even younger than that, so they grew up here. they are really american in every way except they don't have the papers. >> tucker: their educational levels are considerably lower than that of -- they recommendation actually, i have the numbers right here, 22% have a bachelor's degree compared to 32%. 10 points below native born americans, relatively few of even high school degrees. >> many in the military. >> tucker: there are some in the military. my question is, as a broader question of policy, we are in a high tech economy. everyone knows that skills and education are key. why are we letting in a million low wage, low skilled workers every year? >> an even better question than that. why did we spend 1 trillion, $500 billion and not a nickel on education? not a nickel on job training? we just did that today. you know, we set priorities today. we said the priority is to transfer a huge amount of money to corporations and too the super wealthy, the top 1%. 83% of all that money. and not a nickel for education. not for the job training you just explained. >> tucker: i wonder why you are not holding up the government over that or carried interest who paul is still in the tax bill that helps the big democratic donors, hedge funds, private equity guys. you are not shutting the government down over that. >> we should. >> tucker: instead, it's to give citizenship or legal status to people here illegally, i'm beginning to think maybe the motive is getting new voters, honestly. p >> i don't think it will make a difference on the voting scale. what does make a difference is there are 800,000 young menif and women literally raised in the united states that are going to be deported very shortly. this is an important workforce. 22% of, what, 800,000? we are talking about, what, you want to do the math? we are talking about -- >> tucker: it's a lot ofof people. w i just wonder, i don't think there is any person who says the u.s. economy is crying out for more low skilled labor. it's just not.ay you are from california. >> why don't we talk about the agriculture labor program where there is a need for low skilled workers? >> tucker: the future is not more people with fifth grade education. it's for engineers. w these are not engineers. >> the dacae question. well, we are looking at somewhere north of 70,000, if it's 22% that have that graduate degree. >> tucker: okay. but it's still lower than the national average. i guess here, my question. the daca question is unique because they didn't haveve consent when they came here. they came here as kids. but why should we allow their relatives in foreign countries to come here by chain migration? >> that's a reasonable question. >> tucker: why not just say, if you are a relative, you have to come the same way everyone else comes when you want to immigrate to the m united state. >> the chain migration question is a legitimate question and it needs to be answered in the context of a comprehensive immigration reform.he >> tucker: hold on, the debate is now over daca. going to happen imminently, right now. why not say, look, we will give up on chain migration. everify, you should have to fault federal law.d >> you are talking to a fellow that's been the number one advocate of everify. >> tucker: amen. then, i'm so glad. why don't you convince your fellow democrats everify, end chain border migration.ll. real border control, and of sanctuary city nonsense, these are not crazy ideas. the public supports the ideas. >> there are many things we can do on immigration policym. and those are some of them. certainly the everify is extremely important, it ought to be there. there are other things that need to go along with that and i will give you ange example. california is the largest agriculturally producing state in the nation. depending heavily on immigrant labor force. that labor force is not available today but if you had the ag labor program, if you had a comprehensive review. everify, comprehensive border control along the wayay and by the way, as ranking member of the coast guard maritime, you really want to spend some money wisely?he put it into the coast guard. that's where most of the contraband is coming in. and increasing amount illegally. >> tucker: nobody trusts congress on border enforcement because they lied to us. that's why we have these problems to begin with. why not cool the temperature, reassure everyone that only the daca people are getting amnesty by just saying, we are not going to allow relatives tot come through chain migration. >> i'm not going to debate that with you. >> tucker: so you will be okay with that. >> chain migration is an issue to be dealt with. >> tucker: who's against that, though, i wonder? why wouldn't everyone before i that? >> well, i suppose somebody that is here that would like to have their mother or father come in.he >> tucker: yeah. but they are not voters so they don't get a say. >> they could be. >> tucker: that's my whole point! [laughs] >> they may already be discontinues. i could give you couple examples of people that have become citizens and they would like to have their family come. >> tucker: they can come. they can get in linene with everybody else. good to see you. >> my pleasure. thank you. >> tucker: president trump has certainly had a rocky road with public opinion but his difficulties haven't done anything to make people think better of hillary clinton, which is kind of weird. new gallup poll shows clinton rating 36%, all time low, approval 61%. all time high. what is going on here? julie alban's digital editor at "time" incorporated. thanks for coming on. >> thanks for having me. >> tucker: what i find so striking about these numbers, i don't want to pile on hillary clinton, she lost, that's enough punishment as far as i can tell. this may say something bigger and interesting about the country. her numbers among women are much worse than you would think for someone who is the self-described champion of all women. a lot of women don't like hillary clinton. why is that? >> i can't necessarily answer that question. i think it depends on how are talking to. if you are looking at these polls specifically, it showed that there was a drop from 79 to 78% among democrats who were taking this poll. and the poll among republicans was from 11% to 5%. f so i don't know if, youo know, the number of women who support hillary clinton is really the issue here. really more that this is split across party lines. i have a lot of thoughts on why that might be. >> tucker: that is definitely true. of course it's a party line thing. it always has been. but her numbers among women are soft. she has been asked about it repeatedly. she lost women under 30 to bernie sanders, you would remember in the primary, and she lost married women in the general. she was asked over at msnbc about that why that was. and this is what she said. "i think they, women are publicly disrespecting themselves. i don't know what their -- i don't think they know what their own arguments are." in other words, they are too silly to know that i'm a t great person. isn't that kind of patronizing? >> i have heard this from fox news hosts many times when hillary clinton says women didn't vote in their best interest by voting for donald trump and i certainly agree with her on that point. i think that saying that her approval ratings among women are low doesn't necessarilyap mean that the approval ratings of donald trump are then high for those same women. so, you know, there are certainly things that -- hillary clinton hass skeletons in her closet.os she has been criticized most specifically by donald trump and the g.o.p. and this network in particular over and over and over again. >> tucker: hold on, julie. fox is one among many, many networks. i know it's this thing where "it's fox's fault." okay. married women voted against her. unfortunately they are not all our viewers. here's my question. if i said, women are doing this, and i said, you know, the thing about women, they just don't know what's in their own interest, they just don't understand what they say. you would look at me and say wow that's patronizing, maybe even sexist. why is it okay when hillaryat says that about women? >> i think she was right in saying that women who voted for donald trump are voting against their own interest given the fact that donald trump has history of bragging about, you know, h alleged sexual harassment against women. given that a lot of the programs that he has put in place, from the minimum wage or from advocating for not as high of a minimum wage to the healthcare bill disproportionately effects women. that's my view and also proven out by fact. >> tucker: these are obviously subjective statements you are making. they're not factual statements. let me just ask you. don't adult women have the right to decide what they think is best for them without being patronized by liberals? >> they absolutely have the right to make the decisions that they believe are best for them. i think you could also say in this election a lot of people in a lot of rural, low income people actually voted against their interests in voting for donald trump because, you know, the healthcare bills that he would propose and the tax bill that's going through are things that are going to disadvantage them.bi you can say this is sexist, you can say this is elitist. if you actually look at the policies in place, they disadvantage women and low y income people and w disadvantage people who voted for donald trump. i don't think that's patronizing. i think that's true. >> tucker: might be worth meditating on why they did that, maybe if you think people hate you because they don't like your skin color or gender or where you live. you know, maybe that kind of wrecks the deal for you. you are not going to vote for somebody you think hates d you. that's true for both sides. let me ask you this, hillary's book tour went on forever. i guess the numbers are going down because she has been doing all these media appearances trying to sell this book. she is incredibly rich already. why do you think she had to go on the world's longest book tour and try to sell this book beyond the point that people really wanted to buy it? what was that about? >> i don't think it was beyond the point that people wanted to buy it. i know a lot of people were hungry to learn what lessons she took away from this election. what i really want to know is why are we talking about hillary clinton's approval ratings? i wants to talk about donald trump's abysmal approval ratings. >> tucker: ipr bet you do. but hillary clinton thrustt herselfad -- if hillary clinton wants to move to barbados and do whatever hillary clinton does in her spare time, that's fine for me. hillary clinton placed herself at the center of public attention for almost a year trying to sell this book. i think it's fair to respond. i don't think i'm hillary obsessive or hater or anything like that. she is jumping around trying to be relevant. >> she is not a public figure. she is not in public office. why does she even have an approval ratings? she is a civilian. i also don't think that -- this is the most watched cable news network in the country. i don't think that you guys can spend a lot of time inordinately bashing hillary clinton and then wonder why peoplequ don't like her. >> tucker: i'm not actually bashing. let me ask you one final question. okay? i don't want to be mean, but, can you think of a single interesting or insightful thing hillary clinton has ever said? i have covered her since 1992. and i have never hard one. have you?er an >> yes. i can think of many interesting and insightful things. >> tucker: hit me with one profundity. i promise i will let you deliver it. >> i think the fact that she acknowledged in her book various reasons that came to light about why she wasn't elected, including counting for her own tactical mistakes and some of the sexism leveled in the campaign and the nationalism and populism that the donald trump campaign played into. i think there was a lot of insight in that book. >> tucker: [laughs] >> when you ask about the book tour and i was somebody to wanted to read that being book. i wanted to know what happened. i want to know why donald trump is our president. >> tucker: i could have told you, sexism.ve could have called me and i could have saved you. >> that's not the answer but we don't call male politicians shrill and unlikeable. so it definitely played a part. >> tucker: i don't know if they're shrill and unlikeable i would be happy to.. and there are some who are shrill and unlikeable. you challenged me to that and i will rise to that challenge. julie, thank you. new revelations continue to threaten the legitimacy of the mueller investigation. up next we will talk to congressional republicans who has been following this. and some answers to questions that may have arisen recently. we'll ask him coming up. ♪ him coming up. ♪ cannot live without it. so if you can't live without it... why aren't you using this guy? 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>> tucker: i agree with that. >> the american people have a right to know whether their taxpayer money were used to undermine the president of the united states. the american people deserve to know whether the fbi was working to undermine the person they elected. that's why we need to have open hearings. if there is corruption in this hearing the best disinfectant is going to be sunshine. >> tucker: in the absence of transparency conspiracy theories are beginning to flower. no one trusts anyone in washington all of a sudden. a that might bring back some trust. one of the key questions not to put you on the spot butut maybe you know the answer. agent boat had an affair with his coworker. his text messages came to light last week.y in them he talked about a meeting in andy's office. did we find out if that andy is andrew mccabe? n >> we did not find out. we have andrew mccabe before the judiciary committee tomorrow at 10:00 a.m. that also will be behind closed doors.t it's obvious it is mccabe. this is the circle of people directly involved in the hillary clinton email scandal, that migrated over i trump investigation. i think as a consequence of their bias. that's one or the other. over half the people on the hillary probe donated to hillary clinton or barackk obama. you've got weissmann, the number two, praising people for defying orders from the president of the united states and then peter strzok, the very person who may have dressed this up dossier as an intelligence document, going from the clinton scandal to the trump investigation, carrying his bias with him and then planning, actually planning action to undermine the president. >> tucker: do we know if the fbi paid for the dossier or any part of the dossier? >> we have asked that question of the attorney general, the fbi director, and rosenstein. and none of them will tell us. how arrogant is that, tucker, that our own government will not tell us if they used our money to go and pay russians in conjunction with the democratic party? this is stuff that you would see in a banana republic. not the united states. >> tucker: i'm confused. none of those people werepl elected by voters. you are elected by voters. this is a democracy, supposed to be in charge of the way the government>> operates, right? >> absolutely. >> tucker: yet, you the elected official, can't get answers from the appointed officials, why is that? >> that's why we are issuing subpoenas, tucker. either we will get answers to these subpoenas. we will find out thisil information and share it with the american people or we need to start holding the senior officials at the fbi and the department of justifiable in contempt. it's totally unacceptable in a democracy to have the bureaucrats telling the elected representatives of the people that we don'ts have a right to know whether or not the methods and practices that were utilized were legal, were fair. >> tucker: it's a subversion of democracy, i agree. your own party agreed to allowing this testimony hid behind closed doors. you're a republican. you are one of the younger members. what does the leadership of your party think of you going after them in public on live tv for that decision? >> look, i think it was the wrong decision and i'm not alone. we had over 20 members of the judiciary committee demanding a second counselof to investigate the clinton foundation and bribes that may still be impacting our national security going forward. and that shows that there is a desire within our caucus to get answers for the people we serve. i can't go back to mye district and explain to my voters that, well, we just didn't get any answers so we gave up. we decided to throw our hands in the air. that's not fighting. o> tucker: good for you. i'm not sure what i think. i'm confused. i follow it pretty closely and i still don't know. >> the attorney general can fix all of it, tucker. the attorney general has the power to step forward, demand answers, and where we see clear evidence of bias, to shut down the elements of the investigation that are fed by that, that are led to actions to undermine the president. but it's like we have got an attorney general who is a spectator at the department of justice and not the real leader of that agency. >> tucker: congressman, thank you. good to see you tonight. >> good to see you. >> tucker: california town menaced by what local call racist trees. can they cut their way to utopia, excuse me, shocking, next. ♪ i am totally blind. and non-24 can make me show up too early... or too late. or make me feel like i'm not really "there." talk to your doctor, and call 844-234-2424. this is not a cloud. this is a tomato tracked from farm to table on a blockchain, helping keep shoppers safe. this is a financial transaction secure from hacks and threats others can't see. this is a skyscraper whose elevators use iot data and ai to help thousands get to work safely and efficiently. this is not the cloud you know. this is the ibm cloud. the ibm cloud is the cloud for business. yours. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> tucker: well, the government of palm springs, california, out in the desert is plotting a war on racist trees. since the 1960's, a row of tamarisk trees separated a golf course from a historically black neighborhood.hb now locals were say the trees were planted with racist intent and the city plans to clear cut them as a result, as punishment. the cost? $169,000. tray daniel is a resident who supports cutting down the racist trees and he joins us tonight. mr. daniel, thanks for coming on. >> good evening. thank you very much for having me. m >> tucker: i want to put up on the screen -- first i thought this was a crazy story. y we have learned a lot about what's racist in 2017. here are some of the things we learned this year are racist. ice cream trucks, car insurance, little mermaid, dr. suess, milk, math, science, the bible, grammar, the iphone x, emogis, jingle bells, babies, solar eclipse, the anti-racist book "to kill a mockingbird" is racist and apu from "the simpsons." now palm trees in springs are racist. what racist sentiments have they expressed to you? how can you prove these trees are racist? >> thee trees, tucker, are not racist. a tree is neutral. it's benign and it's not the tree.re it is the individuals and their intent when that particular type of tree wasas planted in that particularon location, back in 1958, '59, '60, '61. >> tucker: right. >> you see, that neighborhood on the 14th and 15th fairway is the original african-american neighborhood of palmsp springs. >> tucker: right. >> now as late as 1950, the national board of realtors had in their code of ethics, and i'm paraphrasing, that no realtor should be instrumental in introducing into a neighborhood any race or nationality that will cause property values to deteriorate. >> tucker: i'm aware of that.e. we had a lot of awful things were in those codes. i know that. >> that's right. y and, yes, they were. and you see that golf course, that black housing development in 1960 is right on the 14th and 15th fairway. you build golf courses for one purpose and that's to sell homes. you cannot sell homes to white people or anyone else on the golf course in 1960. >> tucker: hold on, you also build golf courses to play golf. i'm wondering, so i have no doubt, though you haven't proved it, though i'm willing to believe, there was racist intent in placing these trees and a lot of things going on in this country 55 years ago. why we punishing the trees?am >> we are not punishing trees. >> tucker: we are killing them. >> because the african-american -- the black families whose property are adjacent to those trees and if you have done any research on the tree, you will know that's one of the nastiest trees around and it's also been declared a environmental disaster by the federal government. >> tucker:>> what? now -- because that tree is a four entry, you are calling it nasty? >> correct. absolutely.orre >> tucker: i guess the california i grew up in was a little bit welcoming to foreigners, just because the tree is not from california doesn't mean you have to kill it and collect names, like racist. >> why -- we are not going to talk about it. we are going to talk about that tree, the way it is not maintained, has depressed and deprived black families, whose properties are contiguous adjacent to the 14th and 15th fairway, for 65 years from enjoying -- and property taxpayers -- from enjoying the same economic benefits of being on a golf course. the same aesthetic and social benefits. >> tucker: has it protected those houses from golf balls at all? there is always an upside to these things. >> people don't go out and say we are doing this for racist reason. out and say, we are going to give you landscaping. we will landscape you out of existence. by the way, these trees are going to protect from you golf balls. >> tucker: there is truth to that, isn't there? hold on, look, the people who made these decisions -- >> they planted only this tree on the section of the golf course. >> tucker: don't attack the trees again. i find that offensive because they are not from california. people have made these decisions, and they are long dead, in many cases. you are still hell bent on killing these trees by your own admission commit nod sin, did nothing wrong. does that seem a little unfair? shouldn't we punish the guilty and not the innocent? >> i really take exception to what you just said. this has nothing to do with the trees. it has to do with black families and -- >> tucker: they are just getting killed in it but nothing to do with them. they are just kind of in the way. if you were a tree, you might feel a little differently and maybe you meditate on that. >> are you a tree? >> tucker: i'm not. >> what species are you? >> tucker: at least i'm big enoughed to think about your perspective in them and you are killing them. >> are you not concerned about the black people and their property values? you would rather save a tree that help a black family? >> tucker: i'm not saying that at all. >> that's exactly what you are saying.ieir why would you not help these black families improve their property values and give them the same rights as taxpayers? all the white families do on this golf course -- >> tucker: slow down.. i'm not convinced that trees need to die to make you feel better. that's it.th think about that and come back. we can continue this conversation. i wish we had more time. trey, thank you.th wow. that was intense. president trump's political action committee has a new ad touting what it sayss are the president's recent success stories.t fox news chief national correspondent ed henry has taken a look at it and he joins us now. >> tucker, good to see you. this is exclusive to "tucker carlson tonight." how the president and advisors are trying to pivot out of the tax cut win to enact the rest of his agenda.. once again, they are facing naysayers who say the tax plan will not work. democratic leader chuck l schumer today cited at&t cutting jobs in recent years claiming there is no way the tax cut will trickle down to employees. hours later, president announced at&t is doing the opposite, giving out $1,000 bonus to more than 200,000 workers. increasing capital spending by a billion dollars. several others like boeing doing similar. now the president wants to pivot to immigration,, infrastructure, and other big items on the agenda. a group of his advisors that are called a group called america first policies is planning $1 million tv ad blitz starting on christmas day. we have it first. d >> thank you, president trump. >> thank you, president trump. >> thank you. >> everyday americans are standing up to thank president trump. >> thank you so much. >> for making america great again. >> thank you for cutting my taxes. >> thank you for fixing our economy. >> thank you for keeping my family safe. >> thank you for putting america first. >> thank you for supporting israel. >> as veterans, thank you for reminding us to stand for our national anthem. >> thank you, president trump. >> thank you, president trump. for letting us say merry christmas again. >> it is focused very heavily on the president personally. his advisors say that's because they feel he has been beaten up from day one. they wanted to send a message, despite all the critics, there are millions of americans who are grateful for his leadership. they got taxes done and they will get behind him to get the rest of the agenda passed. we will see whether that happens next year, tucker. >> tucker: ed henry, thank you for that, good to see you. a new anti-opioid ad in being attacked because it's offensive to junkies. maybe that was the idea. we have all the details next. ♪ i accept i don't conquer the mountain like i used to. i even accept i have a higher risk of stroke due to afib, a type of irregular heartbeat not caused by a heart valve problem. but whatever trail i take, i go for my best. so if there's something better than warfarin, i'll go for that too. eliquis. eliquis reduced the risk of stroke better than warfarin, plus had less major bleeding than warfarin. eliquis had both. don't stop taking eliquis unless your doctor tells you to, as stopping increases your risk of having a stroke. eliquis can cause serious and in rare cases fatal bleeding. don't take eliquis if you have an artificial heart valve or abnormal bleeding. while taking eliquis, you may bruise more easily... ...and it may take longer than usual for any bleeding to stop. seek immediate medical care for sudden signs of bleeding, like unusual bruising. eliquis may increase your bleeding risk if you take certain medicines. tell your doctor about all planned medical or dental procedures. i'm still going for my best. and for eliquis ask your doctor about eliquis. ♪ ok, so with the award-winning our customers have 24/7 access, digital id cards, they can even pay their bill- (beep) bill has joined the call. hey bill, we're just- phone: hi guys, bill here. do we have julia on the line too? 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[laughs] >> tucker: yeah, i bet. >> you know, talking to some physicists, they don't think the human body could handle that kind of force. >> tucker: doesn't sound like the human body could. bottom line, what do you think this was? >> i believe as do the other folks that were on the t flight that we -- when we visually saw it was -- that it was something not from this world. >> tucker: presumably you expressed that belief to your superiors. what did they say? bur >> actually, we caught a lot of grief getting back to theti boat. and it got passed off as an event that no one could explain. keep in mind, they had been tracking these for two weeks prior to us seeing it. this was the first time thator manned airplanes had been airborne when the objects appeared. >> this feels like a really big story to me. it's not exactly clear why vladimir putin is more interesting than this. i think this seems like a big deal and commander, i appreciate you taking the time to talk to us about it. you seem sober and believable and i appreciate it. >> thank you very much, tucker. >> tucker: thanks. we feel a little betrayed. for months chris cuomo has soothed our weary soulex with his mystical thoughts. now is he pushing sinister gender stereotypes. we will show you the evidence and explain. that's next. ♪ ♪ >> tucker: i think it's fair to say that no cable network has ever promoted a rival anchor the way we have promoted chris cuomo of cnn. it's just not done. yet, we have chronicled his wit, his mystical philosophical musings. we don't always understand him, but we love him. we love chris cuomo on the show we did until the other day when he suddenly pulled off the mask and began trafficking in the most dangerous gender m stereotypes. normally we'd be too uncomfortable to show you the tape. we are going to do it anyway and hopefully we could all learn something in this moment. but we warn you, now is the time to have the kids leave the room. okay, roll it. >> that is the sippy cup grip that you are using there right now.w. i don't get all the hands thing and the glass. you know, i don't know what it's all about. >> you drink from a base. >> this is what i drink out of. i drink out of and i hold it like a man with one hand. you know, that's me. >> right, that's you. you just have giant -- >> certainly not one of the concerns you want to hold a cup, that's what you do. >> tucker: like a man? really? or as the kids on twitter say, seriously? you would think we would be past comments like that. maybe we had evolved a little bit that at a time like this when the country is trying hard to be sensitivee and inclusive that the rest of us wouldn't have to feel endangered by binary gender assumptions like these, the outdated discredited claim that there are two biological sexes with meaningful differences between them.he t wake up, grandpa! it's 2017. you think of all networks cnn would be a safe space where hate like thisll wouldn't be tolerated but,t, no, apparently it's like the middle ages over there where people still hold cups, quote, like a man. stereotypes, anyone? honestly, more than a little more than a little disappointedc was anyone other than chris cuomo we would be tempted to lodge a civil rights complaint at the justice department or at the very least switch to msnbc. but for chris cuomo, we will be patient. we think he can grow from this and we hope he does. that's about it for us tonight. tune in every night at 8:00 to the show that's the sworn enemy of lying, pomposity, and smugness and groupthink. dvr it if you know how that works. good night from washington. good news. judge jeanine, one of our favorites, in for hannity tonight. hey, judge. >> judge jeanine: thanks so much. i got to tell you, tucker, i always want to stay on your good side. [laughter] >> judge jeanine: all right. welcome to "hannity," i'm jeanine pirro in for sean. there is a lot of major breaking news tonight. we start with president trump and republicans scoring a major victory in keeping a huge promise to the american people. by passing historic tax cut bill. the president and members of the g.o.p. celebrated the accomplishment at the white house. let's take a look. >> it's been an amazing experience, i have to tell you. hasn't been done in 34 years but actually, it really hasn't been done because we broke every

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fox news contributor jessica tarlov. joining us, the man in the middle, it is james freeman, assistant editor of "the wall street journal" editorial page. we've got a lot to talk about. >> james: thanks, good to be here. >> kennedy: this is a joyous week. >> james: you now, i feel like that every day. especially today. >> kennedy: let's start with president trump unannounced trip. he and the first lady flying under the cover of darkness for security reasons. spending about three hours on the ground there, taking selfie selfies, thinking the troops for their service. germany on the way back in, meeting with service members and military leaders. the president also using it to outline future strategy. the commander in chief saying u.s. troops will remain in iraq -- his recent decision to bring troops home from syria. watch. >> there will be a strong, deliberate, orderly withdrawal from u.s. forces from syria. a very deliberate very orderly. while maintaining the u.s. presence in iraq it to you it prevents resurgence and to protect u.s. interest and also to always watch very closely over any potential re-formation of isis and also to watch over iran. we will be watching. >> kennedy: let's go to ellison barber who has more from the white house. >> hi, kennedy. they left in the dead of night, towards the very end of christmas day. the president said when they were on air force one, he had never experienced anything like it. all of it for security. this was his first visit with troops stationed in combat, since taking office. came on the heels of his decision to start withdrawing troops. spent about three hours -- did not awaits with the iraqi prime minister. they would cancel for security and logistical reasons. they were expecting a formal reception and meeting. it divergence to organize the meeting led to it being cancele canceled. the white house says that they did accept an invitation to visit washington, d.c. at mr. defended his decision to drop down troops in syria, telling soldiers that other countries like turkey need to sd of the cost. >> we may defeat terrorist armies on the battlefield. each nation of the world must decide for themselves what kind of future it wants to build for its people. america shouldn't be doing the fighting for every nation on earth. if they want us to do the fighting, they also have to pay a price. and sometimes that is also a monetary price. so we are not the suckers of the world. >> withdrawing troops from syria is controversial. it is a mistake. it despite objections to the contrary, this was not an impetuous decision. >> our presence in syria was not open-ended. it was never intended to be permanent. one year ago, i gave our general six more months in syria. i said go ahead, get them. it turns out it was really a year and a half ago. i said go get them. we need six months. go get them. they said give us another six months, i said go get them. then they said can we have one more? i said nope. no. i said i gave you a lot of six months. now we are doing at a different way. >> he once called the decision to invade iraq "the single worst decision ever made." he has no plans to withdraw troops from the country. kennedy. >> kennedy: thanks so much for that report. let's discuss. james, i will start with you. the president drew criticism for not having visited the troops. what does it do for him and for them? >> a lot of questioning after the announcement that he is leaving. it can seem like it was kind of abrupt to a lot of people. he has been explaining how he has wanted to come out for a while. the territory has been reclaimed from isis, and if they need to come back and strike isis, they can do that. >> kennedy: let's talk a little bit about afghanistan. apparently they didn't want to visit there because of the instability, but there has been a pretty big troop drawdown. the president has made no bones about the fact that he doesn't like these words, but they are in fact his words, so is this good strategy in syria and afghanistan? >> lisa: i am truly conflicted because i see that presence point. lindsey graham, essentially what they want is to be there and definitely then alternatively, you look at how he tried to contain iran, but then i have an issue with that. i have an issue with what happens, they say that they are going to bury them, so i worry about the position that that puts the kurds in. i don't think it has ever worked out or a president to prematurely control -- whether it is in yemen, so i think there is a danger there. it didn't work out for george w. bush with the "mission accomplished" speech. it didn't work out with obama and benghazi. it to be perfectly honest, i am truly conflicted. i am listening to everyone on the issue, but honestly, i don't know what the answer is. >> kennedy: julie. >> julie: i think taking advice from a murderous regime, pulling out because of turkey and russia -- the fact that russia and turkey are supportive of the united states, praising us for making a decision, there lies a huge problem. i also had an issue with the phrase "we are not the suckers of the world." he used that term three times. i would never consider us suckers. we always led the fight in every single major work. our military were men and womet does that say to the families of those who lost people? >> kennedy: i will push back. i think it speaks to their bravery, these people who enlist, they are incredibly brave because sometimes they put themselves in harm's way for incursions and wars that downed -- >> julie: that we shouldn't be involved in. >> kennedy: i agree with the president that we shouldn't be footing the bill for the rest of the spear the rest of the world has no problem relying on us so that they can bolster their social programs. that is what makes us suckers. >> julie: i get that. before he ran for president, he did not believe that we should be there, but now that he has been there, he realizes the need. the fight in syria, before he became elected, he also said we shouldn't be in syria. then he went ahead and conduct of those air strikes. those children and civilians were killed, and they were aghast, he was livid. he was very upset about that. he should not be there to do all of the i guess damage control, but i do believe that it could be taken the wrong way. >> jessica: not used it as a campaign rally. when you use language like that and the word "suckers" -- >> julie: the border wall, that didn't have a place there. >> kennedy: he always talks about what he is feeling. that is what he does. >> jessica: i'm not saying that it's inconsistent. i'm saying it's a problem all the time, especially when you are face to face with the people who are putting their lives on the line, using language like that, it could be interpreted that way they julie felt, and frankly the way that i felt. he could have said thank you for your service. >> julie: he got so much criticism for not going over there. i understand. he should visit the troops, especially those who are separated from their families during the holidays. then he goes over, and now you have an issue with what he says. you can't really have it both ways. he was criticized prematurely for not going, then he goes, and you have people like johnny, criticizing him for signing the maga hats. he can't win max, anywhere. >> james: you see the whole speech, you read the text, there is no way that -- he went on and on, expressing gratitude. no force in history has done more for the causes of justice and peace. i think the "suckers" line, that is about the united states footing the bill. he puts this an artful language compared to his predecessors, but they all said what he is saying. we don't want to do nation-building. we want to beat up isis. he is not signing up for trying to run syria. and i think most people in the country, although we could debate what the result of that is going to be, they would probably agree. may be the play is to put economic pressure like we do with iran, starting to bite there. maybe that is a better way. >> julie: i also like the idea of the free-trade deals, where there has been so much military conflict because when you have goods and services exchanged between free nations, that is when people rise out of conflict. >> jessica: can i add to your point -- i have ratted a member of times, and i was a member of the media who jumped on him for not going -- >> kennedy: good for you, jess. that's why we love you. >> jessica: you see how much he cares about the military. his approval rating with the military, at 44%. jim mattis is at 84%. why is that? if he is the most beloved and of the most supportive of the military, why is his approval rating under 50%? i think we can agree that when he is standing up there, this is your first pay raise you've gotten in ten years, which is a categorical life. if i raise it 10%, it goes up 2.8%, they on the paychecks, they know what they are earning. why is that productive to go out there and do that? does that contribute to his low approval rating with the military? >> lisa: i think that could be problematic. there are a lot of people on the left and right who saw him as a really key figure in the administration. he is a product of the military. that is something that resonates within him, and the people who served really feel like he has their backs. he protects them and understands them. the other point is president -- we are so spread out. that just doesn't make sense. but he has to get some support if we are going to limit our defense spending and keep people, civilians and u.s. men and women in the military from being slaughtered, we have to take a different approach. >> james: he has a much lower approval rating than a commander -- >> jessica: 44%. >> james: everyone in the military is allowed to have different views on politics just like the rest of us. i think it would be weird if a commander who should be nonpartisan and leading the troops is down there with politicians. >> jessica: but the president president -- >> james: yes, there rating is generally not that strong. >> kennedy: democrats, they have a reading problem. they don't even have a candidate. a new poll shows the person they most want to see take on the president doesn't even have a name. at least not yet. we will explain the debate. plus partial government government shutdown now in day six. right now, no and insight. refusing to budge. so what will it take to make a deal? we will hash all of that out next. >> i think i will say i don't want the wall, and then they are going to give it to me. i figured out the solution. tell nancy pelosi i don't want the wall. oh, we want the wall. then we get the wall. we have to have it. your brain changes as you get older. but prevagen helps your brain with an ingredient originally discovered... in jellyfish. in clinical trials, prevagen has been shown to improve short-term memory. prevagen. healthier brain. better life. >> we will honor your service by doing everything in our power to defend our homeland and to stop terrorists from entering america's shores. and that includes it strengthening our borders. i don't know if you folks are aware of what is happening. we want to have strong borders in the united states. the democrats don't want us to have strong borders. only for one reason, you know why? because i wanted. >> kennedy: showing no signs of backing off of the border wall. his surprise visit to the troops yesterday. the partial government shutdown now in its sixth day with no deal insight. democrats continuing to insist the wall is a nonstarter, but the president isn't taking no for an answer. doubling down on his position this morning, saying have the democrats finally realize that we desperately need border security and oh wall on the southern border? need to stop drug is a common human trafficking, criminals coming into our country. do they know that most people not getting paid are democrats. peter doocy is life. scheduled to be back for an hour today. i make it, peter? >> the break that they give themselves after failing to pass a bill that would avoid a partial government shutdown is going to end this afternoon when both chambers come and just after 4:00, but the hallways not filled with lawmakers. of the, with the exception of a few tourists, are empty. >> not much is happening in washington as best as i can tell. the present needs to sign a bill, schumer needs to get ten votes for it to pass in the senate. hopefully when schumer decides that he agrees we need security on our mexico border, we will be able to go back to work. >> lawmakers are tweeting. a kamala harris is framing the impact of the shots on like this. she says as you head back home this week, remember, approximately 53,000 tsa agents are not being paid to be at work right now during one of the busiest travel times of the year. please be sure to be patient during this time. we don't know if democratic leaders are willing to agree to any tax dollars, but it does seem like they have removed themselves from the process on the hill after trying to move forward with the $5 billion in border wall up money. so it is up to chuck schumer to the garage with the middle ground is, and a democrat so far seem satisfied to let the shutdown last as long as possible or at least last until next week when democrats take over the house. might get some sort of credit for fixing things were for ending the shutdown, but just to give you a sense of how empty it the hallways are, i just walked by the majority leader's office, mitch mcconnell, and the door is closed, he's got a stack of mail and newspapers outside. julie periods before you come i don't think they're going to be getting to that anytime soon, including the vote. peter doocy, thank you very muc much. they have no reason to come to the table at this point. half of them are not even in town. they are waiting until january 3rd. that is their day that they are planning on making some changes. do you really think that the democrats are going to come to the table? come up with a compromise? >> james: yeah, i am not sure which day it is going to be. i don't think that they can sustain this current position. they have conceded all of the principles. they have already agreed that billions ought to be spent. you ought to secure the border. they want to say fencing, don't call it oh, well. that is not really a principal. i think the president has a leverage. i don't know exactly how many dollars he is going to get, and i don't know whether the legislation is going to have the word "wall" in it, but he is going to get money for erecting more of a barrier. maybe he can get a deal done. more enhancer border security. >> julie: it is getting silly at this point. it does come down to a couple billion dollars. he has come down a lot, significantly. he originally wanted way more money. he was -- it was a huge drop for him. it almost seems like the democrats need to do something and show that they are willing. if they really want to put their money where their mouth is. yes, we want to strengthen our borders, put this money towards border security. why not just go ahead and cough up the dough? >> lisa: they really believe that government can solve every problem, and if that is the case, show us how the system is working. if not, show us how to fix it. instead, nancy pelosi is making comments, and that is incredibly insensitive when you have families that are detained in facilities that were not meant to house families. and you've got people that are sending kids on a company. i know we are going to talk about that a little bit later, but you do have to have some bigger ideas. you have to break the mold and have that kind of thinking that makes this country better. makes the world better, it's a ripple effect. they are not doing that right now. when it's just a semantic distinction, withholding a few billion dollars, which in my world -- i wouldn't mind if you billion dollars. there has to be something bigger. there has to be something more. if they are just abandoning the idea that government is going to help everybody, that's great because it's realistic, but it also says that you are big fat hypocrites. in >> lisa: can we just say that this is the dumbest fight ever. there is literally no difference between fans or wall. you were already supporting a physical structure. who cares if it's taller or bill differently? it is the exact same thing. this is the dumbest fight of all time. the trump administration has already demonstrated they are willing to compromise on this. mick mulvaney said that they have already come down on the $5 million. my only concern here is i don't know how they have come to the middle. we have one side, chuck schumer singh we are not giving you any money, then president trump saying i'm not signing anything unless it has wall funding. where is the compromise in that? when does you are going to have more gridlock. at democratic-controlled house, you need 60 votes in the senate. i think this is going to get real interesting. >> kennedy: jesse, this comes down to you. you need to solve this. fix our problem. so this is the deal, i know that they cannot stand when they hear the president say that they just want to open our borders. democrats don't want to open borders. >> kennedy: i don't know about that. >> julie: if democrats don't want open borders, and they do you want to tighten security with a mere $3 billion or so, how is it that they plan on doing that -- why not just give in and show that they want immigration reform. it's not going to come cheap. >> jessica: immigration reform is a separate issue. it would be great if they said it was the way forward, both sides agree with it when there is some bid to get reelected. i am moving that you decide, that 1.6 billion that chuck schumer offered to president trump before they had the meeting that i was televised and it president trump said absolutely not. 5 billion is what i need, and if not, i'm going to shut down the government. so i actually don't think that he has a leverage because he is on tv, having said he is going to own it. 1.34 border security. he has said i don't care if it has spikes with the points on the top of that, he tweeted out that image. he is flexible about the type of structure. it is semantics to a large degree here. i would like to see democrats go back to what they have already said. also to get something in return. children are dying in our custody, and what is going on with mexico, to say that we want to have more money, more lawyers, more judges, whatever we need to -- they are right to do, move faster. and it safe. >> lisa: this conversation about the blame game is totally irrelevant. the 2020 election is so far away. it is an irrelevant conversation to be had. by the time it comes up in 2020, everyone will have forgotten about it. >> kennedy: i want to ask you this because i think it is a really important point. there are lots of libertarians who think that we should have a better immigration process. so that they can participate in the economy. the last prohibition, the more likely they are to go home. the problem is when you are willing to offer people things like medicaid and housing and all sorts of medical and education assistance, because you can't afford to do that for every country in the world. >> jessica: you know, but it's not every country in the world that is coming. we are facing humanitarian crises in honduras, guatemala and -- >> kennedy: why does all of that have to fall on the united states? >> jessica: i don't think that it does. presidents before trump have also spoken about this, not in the same town. >> lisa: only 90% of the people who apply for asylum are not going to be granted asylum. 89% will get past that initial interview. it's not real. >> jessica: they are coming here for economic opportunities. i am not saying it is not an issue. >> kennedy: we should just blow out all of the other segments. it is her fault. james, you are good. one day after historic gains, what is behind the market volatility? just how closely the average american is watching. plus, i knew poll showing democrats are excited about fresh face running for president in 2020. who is it? we don't know. retaking the white house. superhighway. 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>> james: it's a little unusual that it is this over it. there is a question of how independent are they? they wanted to be insulated from politics. that's part of the design. we should note there track record is not so hot. whether or not they are independent, so i think like all of us, president trump is probably right to be paranoid about the fed screwing up as they have. but i think the fed chairman, jay powell, has a good case for why rates should continue to rise. >> kennedy: they were kept unnaturally low for a long time, which created a "wall street journal." they are looking down the road at inflation. we are not seeing the kind of inflationary caution that jay powell is forecasting. it's not there. >> james: it is good that we are not seeing it. at the federal funds rate, this is the rate that they have, that banks lend to each other. write about at the level of inflation. so in other words, they are paying nothing to borrow. you look through history, usually borrowers have to pay something. it is not such a bad thing for rates to rise a little bit, for people to finally be able to get a return on their savings during this past decade, you mention, it hasn't been so great for savers. >> kennedy: also talking about the government shutdown, end. >> lisa: what might be problematic for the present or the markets right now, where are the biggest problems in terms of either trade or the wall? the shutdown, and other issues that are exacerbated? >> jessica: i think the wall is something that we can focus on. talking about that, the march 1st deadline, to really see where we are going to fall with china. that will be huge for the economy. either good or bad, the market is a difficult sticking point for him because he is so quick to take credit for the mess of gains, so now when things are not looking good, it should logically also be his fault, but i think how he comes out on trade, because it was such a big part of his campaign as well, actually if you democrats -- more towards the president's position on protectionist trade policies. bernie sanders as well. there is a constituency in the middle, democrats looking at this very closely. people out there in the farming and manufacturing, intellectual property, where we all came down on it. the president is considering actually sanctioning -- he gave a big break to. so we will have to see that. longer term today. >> kennedy: is she right, lisa boothe? >> lisa: no. he owns the highs, the lows, we will see if you give him any credit for that. right now, it is a way too earl early. historic gains, there has been a lot of volatility. we really don't know what things are going to look like before election day. let's say that he does strike some sort of deal with china. it is way too early ahead of 2020. if the markets are heading in, other things on as well, if the economy is not strong, of course that is going to hurt president trump. he ran on being job at present. and that is his key to reelection. if it is not, that is going to hurt him greatly. we are so far away from that point, that we should and read too much into what is going on. >> kennedy: the presidency you shouldn't just rest on the markets. >> julie: i think this president is very proud of the economy, as he should be. i know that a lot of democrats would like to say that you should thank the presidency who was in office two, three, four years ago, but you have to take a look at this. especially when you see what has happened on wall street, i think that the rebound that we saw after christmas day is pretty incredible. that speaks volumes. the asian markets, when they opened up, this morning for us, when washington is not doing what it is supposed to be doing, any major news coming out of washington, the stock market and wall street seems to respond in a positive way. >> kennedy: we are running out of time. is volatility the new normal? >> james: you, for a while. maybe. the market fluctuates. the economy is still pretty strong, though. i think people who are calling for a recession next year will probably be disappointed. >> kennedy: i like that. >> lisa: i think everyone who says bear market, also. >> kennedy: second migrant child dies in u.s. custody. the department of homeland security now promising to make changes to keep kids safer. while democrats are now demanding a hearing, we will dig into that next. ♪ ozempic®! ♪ (vo) people with type 2 diabetes are excited about the potential of once-weekly ozempic®. in a study with ozempic®, a majority of adults lowered their blood sugar and reached an a1c of less than seven and maintained it. oh! under seven? 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" james, why is anyone blaming the government for this child's de? >> james: you might be urging this caravan, et cetera. as long as you have a situation where people think it makes sense, they have an incentive to cross the border illegally with children, you're probably going to have a problem. if there's a policy change the democrats want as we have been discussing, this is a great moment to say you get your wall funding and we get this change, for how people are treated at the border. >> lisa: i find it disgusting that people are placing blame on immigration officials. if you look at the information released, they provided care and medicine and at one point, the father denied care and that it was another checkup where they sell the child was not doing well and took the child back to receive further care and that's when the child passed away. obviously this is incredibly sad but why in the world is anyone pointing the finger at immigration officials when it certainly looks like they did everything they could to save the child's life? >> kennedy: >> jessica: a few w, another child died in our custody. this child that just died was with us for over 130 hours, doubled the time that is legally sanctioned for that to be going on. i don't know what the solution is and i think the zero tolerance policy, that has failed. and same with the deprivation policies that have failed. with president trump, he didn't go in there and allow the child to die. absolutely not but if you look at the direct these policies, directed under the administration, different than president obama's, you can see why people are blaming the president himself and the presence of border patrol. >> lisa: but obviously the father was trying to seek a better life for his child but they took the child on a very dangerous journey. is there any onus on -- it's a dangerous, dangerous journey. >> jessica: absolutely. there are more unaccompanied children coming saying you can come with the rest of them but we need to fix what they are doing once they are coming here because they are coming here. and unilaterally holding them there is not going to be a solution. >> kennedy: we are doing anything unilaterally. it's incredibly heartless to consider people with no money and no opportunity and encourage them to make this perilous journey. the kids showed up sick because some little bodies can't withstand that. and when they are interfaced with diseases, they cannot fight them. i have a really hard time. one democratic lawmaker is looking into civil and criminal charges of neglect for people in cp p. that's not border patrol. we are asking them to do too much because lately congress can't figure out a way. there's not going to be comprehensive immigration refor reform. that's not going to happen. so you have to take -- she is absolutely right. you are absolutely right. you have to take the parts of immigration that are broken and immoral and wrong, figure out what they are piece by piece and fix them. stop haggling over $1.5 billion for a border wall and make things better. family separation may be traumatizing but he is not the first president engaging in family separation. >> lisa: i want to get julie in the mix. justice point, to jessica's point, only 9% actually will get granted asylum. the broader issue is changing the asylum laws. when you get here, unless you actually have a concern at hand, you are not going to get granted asylum in the united states. people without borders came under fire from migrants. isn't the issue before they even arrive at the united states. ? >> julie: it should be but that's not how it works. if you are in the immigrant, they aren't considering the ramifications of what could potentially happen to their children if they drag them across the border and put them into dangerous situations. you are talking about the amount of hours this child was being detained. in fact, this child with the family, not separated but together, are allowed to be held for 20 days. this family had not been held for 20 days. it would have been 480 hours with the child held in captivity if you want to call it that or being held for 480 hours. the child became sick. it's on the parents. >> james: you get the security and bedding and all that but let's think about anymore of them in. birthrates are very low, immigration has been very low in the last decade, maybe there's a solution. >> kennedy: that sounds like a great note and on. it's very confusing where they're going to close the borders we better go quickly and then on the other hand, it is catch and release, they are not doing anything. they are letting families in. let's go ahead and send the kid kids. >> lisa: maybe one day we will have some kind of affirmative action. independence being asked who they are most excited about to take on trump in 2020. it seems like they're not really ready to admit that's going to be. we will discuss that, next. the new capital one savor card. earn 4% cash back on dining and 4% on entertainment. now when you go out, you cash in. what's in your wallet? ♪ ♪ i'm looking for new love, baby ♪ >> jessica: most democratic and independent voters apparently looking for a new, so to speak. when given a list of possible contenders for "someone new," it takes the top spot. close second, joe biden. hardly a new fave followed by bernie sanders and beto o'rourk o'rourke. the former vice president is upset his former boss barack obama is looking at other democrats for a possible run. there was an enthusiastic national following for beto o'rourke against the senate race with ted cruz. >> julie: that didn't make joe biden very happy, apparentl apparently. he wants someone new. >> jessica: no, he's not. and stacy abrams lost. >> julie: to be fair, it was a loss in texas. >> jessica: james, who do you make of this? who is going to run as a democrat and are you going to become a democrat? [laughter] >> james: i definitely like "someone new." does this mean that over auric is so minutes ago or does he count? >> jessica: he definitely counts as someone new. >> james: his dad called him beto because he felt it would help him run with mexican and american voters. >> jessica: his grandfather had the same name. so he was given this name to distinguish. >> james: his father knew he would be potentially be running in an area with guatemalan and mexican americans. >> julie: he also wrote a skateboard across the stage. he's so cool. >> lisa: the bigger issue for democrats, with bernie sanders or joe biden, the problem you have it so many people running for office, we have zero idea of who's going to end up breaking through? a lot of these guys are going to have a tough time breaking through a primary crowd. you have to be something that catches the nun attention of enough primary voters. >> kennedy: really good point. unfortunately, what it means to be president is you have to be all the things for the presidency has become so incredibly incredible. and now it is a cult of personalities. you have to be a messianic, transformational figure like bill clinton or barack obama. i don't see anyone like that in this group. i don't think they're going to settle with an older moderate like joe biden. i think he would have a really tough time breaking through. i'm not surprised to see democrats wanting to kick a few tires but where else are they going to go? you had every conceivable type of person flirt with the idea. like michael avenatti, oprah winfrey. and not to mention the 13-14 democratic senators thinking about making a run. >> jessica: what about black and hispanic voters? >> julie: it really is a notoriety contact. and joe biden is well known but kamala harris got a lot of democratic support during the hearings. she could potentially surprise joe biden. if they have some debates, she could do quite well. a lot of people forget that joe biden became the punch line of a lot of jokes in the time that he was in the white house. i think people forget that because they miss obama so much that they want to grab onto whatever is associated with him so they go with joe biden. >> jessica: there is talk that joe biden's politics would be interesting. we will be back with more "outnumbered" in just a moment. >> kennedy: big thanks to james freeman. did you have a good time on the couch? >> james: i didn't even feel outnumbered. i had a great time. >> kennedy: it's new year's day every day on the couch. >> lisa: i think we should put christmas trees up year-round. we will be back tomorrow on the couch at noon eastern, we will go to julie banderas, and for harris. >> julie: let's go "outnumbered: overtime." i am julie banderas and for harris faulkner. an unannounced visit to iraq, trump told service members "u.s. troops will stay in that country to keep a check on isis unprepared " >> our presence in syria, it was never intended to be permanent. the men and women who have served are entitled to clear objectives and the confidence that whe

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[laughter] >> reporter: the last voter turnout is down in states like michigan. you invoke president obama a lot when you talk about -- how do you plan to get an obama-level turnout in 2020 as a white >> dana: hi, everyone. and dana perino. do you think there was the commander in chief on the debate politician? >> i ran a state that has the eighth largest black population stage to i will ask veterans who in the country. served in iraq and afghanistan, i've never gotten any fewer plus many obama supporters and staffers upset about all the attacks on the former president last night. votes, more than any person ever was that a good idea? are all star political panel will debate that at the top of the hour on "the daily briefing." see you there. >> julie: fox news alert, dramatic new video of a massive has in delaware, black or white. i come from the community. they know my heart, they know gas pipeline explosion in me, and i think that's why so central kentucky that killed one many are supporting me. i think the black community is person and injured five others. no different than any other community in the sense that they are being hurt badly. they are being hurt badly and the blast also forcing nearby they want to know someone, first residents out of their homes. of all, are they telling them matt finn's live in our chicago the truth? newsroom at the very latest. are they laying out straight exactly what they're going to hey, matt. >> julie, entire region of do? no double-talk. kentucky was able to see this what are you going to do? massive explosion. secondly, do i believe you the flames shot 300 feet up into the air. understand? do i believe you know my heart? people have a witnessed a major plane crash or some type of bomb i spent my whole career -- i'm that went off. not a black man, to state the obvious. but i got out of my way to the sheriff's office that defy the person who died as a 50-year-old female understand the best i possibly can with the concerns are. five others renters. they say the debris area is and they are legitimate. look, you have so many african-american businessmen and 3 acres wide and looks like women with great potential. mars. void of grass and vegetation. you have to have access to five homes were destroyed, asphalt, roads, and train tracks capital. i started off my political life are melted. trying to do with redlining the the explosion appears to have been caused by a rupture in a 3t banks. it's still not done. any banks that exists in the stretches from the mexican border to new york. black community should have to lend in the black community. period. we should be in a position where we fundamentally change the way in which the education system they say could have been much works. deadlier if it happened during the daytime and people and we didn't get a chance to talk children were outside. about it last night. an autopsy is scheduled for the i laid out a plan in great 58-year-old woman who perished. detail, and i'm glad we're the sheriff say they might've talking about it. now everybody agrees it's good. look at what's going on. made out of their house but was overtaken by the intense heat. if you don't have access to >> this could have been much, education, everything gets much worse it. backed up. all the dreams get backed up. that's why i propose increasing the female that died as a result of the incident that occurred from $15 billion to $45 billion today may have seen or heard the a year for at-risk schools. fire where the explosion title i schools. it has to be spent. occurred, left her residence, and we challenged children. and the heat may have overtaken black or white. her and led to her death. poor children and black children and hispanic children, they can do as well as anybody else, speak of the explosion happened given a chance. in 1 of 3 pipelines in the area. that's why i insist there be pressure has now been absolutely three, four, and dramatically decreased in the other two pipelines. 5-year-olds having preschool. it happened around 1:00 this not a choice. we know the numbers. morning. right now people are not being if you have great universities allowed back into their house here. find me a university in the and even first responders are state that doesn't say that the being kept out of the area because it's just too hot. education department has pointed julie? >> julie: matt finn, thank you out that they provide continuing very much. police in canada are saying they education? they don't increase their are scaling back the manhunt for the fugitive teenager suspected chances exponentially. of killing three people, including an american woman. what are we arguing about? but investigators do insist they and we can pay for all this. we don't have to go out and are in no way stopping the search. what's that all about? spend $30 trillion, all these jacqui heinrich following the story for us. billions and billions -- what we hi, jackie. can do this for, we can do it >> hey, julie. canadian police say they for another $35 billion year. justin education. launched thousands of man-hours from the fugitive. we have to make sure that every but it's clear that it's no longer on course and it's time single solitary child is to scale back resources. police searched more than 4,000 qualified, and people coming back to school. because they lost their jobs. square miles of unforgiving terrain, clearing more than 500 everybody laughs about -- i homes and abandoned buildings, shouldn't say that, i'm not and coming through dense forests going to do that. but the point is, there is a and swamps by air and on foot. real concern on the part of they use the very best people who have jobs now. technology and even had help from the military, but they about this fourth industrial still could not corroborate any revolution. i've been speaking about it for new sightings despite receiving six years. more than 250 tips. people are deathly afraid. the last sign of the teens was you guys, all you press people, over a week ago in manitoba, you are in jeopardy. i'm not joking. about 2,000 miles from where you are great people, but look police found the slain bodies of that college professor, a what's happening to you. north carolina woman, and her you're in a situation with the digital world is changing. you have a totally different australian boyfriend. they found the burnout car that deal. if you're a print newspaper, they were driving. they expanded the search to a hang on, baby. hang on. it's changing. lake where the teens pass you understand -- i don't expect you to agree with me. through an alcohol checkpoint not known to be murder suspects at that time. days later somebody thought they >> reporter: given that trump won in michigan, what do you saw them looking for food in a think is your biggest challenge landfill in new york landing, in the state? 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and perpetuating this type of they are going to decriminalize border crossing? rhetoric. >> julie: will the bill deter these are monumental things that people? deterrents are what they need. sort of race in america as a people protest and get arrested. that doesn't deter anybody. >> yes. now it's time where new york country. they are completely embracing state needs to send a message. it. people from all over new york joe biden is the only guy, not state, long island, where i that he is the best politician represent, they want to see a change. when you dump buckets of water or the smartest politician out on police, you're disrespecting there, but he at least realizes this is insane. our communities. >> julie: that's like going up and he's trying to put the brakes on it. and hitting a police officer. how is this any different than he's getting killed for it. somebody going up and actually >> julie: it definitely highlighted how left the left striking a police officer? if you hit a police officer, you has gone. even just now, he said, "i wish are in big trouble. if you throw a bucket full of somebody would have called me a water at a police officer's moderate years ago." head, it should be no different. who thought he would be the >> absolutely. conservative among the group? but what you're seeing is people especially when it came to immigration last night. saying, hey, it's okay. he's basically saying, "no, we >> julie: how is this okay? don't want to open up our how is the mayor okay with this? borders." the mayor has, first of all, and kamala harris jumps on them for picking up her public and talking points with the idea is tied the police officers hands that there has to be penalty. behind their backs where they they argues whether it's can't just search somebody without warrant, okay, without criminal or its civil. actually going up to a drug clearly no one on the stage dealer because of racial profiling. it's become so politically wants to see family separated. there's no question there. incorrect. the mayor is making it almost but for whatever reason they wanted to make him look like the bad guy and the guy who was part impossible to protect our police officers. >> mayor bill deblasio would of, i guess, giving obama's have called for the heads of blessing to the port 3 million those two officers if they immigrants when obama was in reacted in any way when they office. as you remember, were just new rookies on the job mayor de blasio just grilled and they had to walk away him over and over. "you're not answering the because god forbid they question. did you say yes?" retaliated and arrested them. biden had no control of what you would have had people like obama did back then. mayor bill deblasio, aoc, >> not only that, in a weird way calling for their firing. both of these debates so far have been sort of shadow attacks >> julie: anti-police rhetoric. that is to blame here. >> without a doubt. it's a pattern of disrespect on barack obama's legacy. year after year after year. and everything that he did. when you tie the hands of law like he wasn't crazy enough. enforcement rather than criminal, all you're doing is i love that point where he said making our communities less -- that you just mentioned, safe. >> julie: can this pass new york julie, where biden was saying, "i wish he called me a moderate back when i was running." legislature? >> if new york can stand for law he wasn't running away from the enforcement it will pass. label of conservative, he was running from the label of a lot of politicians like to moderates. which was kind of crazy when you stop and think about it. talk. now, now they get to see it put to the test. by the way, i think it's also >> julie: what do other city doss in response? important to remember that i this is something you are seeing don't believe the rank and file in new york city. but copy cat incidents are, democrat voters out there -- i unfortunately, an epidemic in think the kamala harriss and the this country. any incident that follows is elizabeth warrens, i think they are misreading their broader going to be copied, which now means other cities and districts are going to have to be base. they are kowtowing to the most protecting police officers from shrill of their party right now. the same happening. >> new york state likes to push i think when it comes to -- down forward this anti-cop rhetoric the stretch, democrats are so and tells our law enforcement not to arrest them. animated by how much they don't our d.a.'s aren't prosecuting as like donald trump that they are they should. going to look for someone they have a to prosecute these electable. they are going to look at a criminals to the fullest extent. what happens is when you arrest bernie sanders or some of the stuff we are seeing on the stage and now you go to court and right now, they are going to you're let off, that's a problem in and of itself as well. say, "that's not electable." and they will go searching for that's the problem new york somebody like joe biden. state keeps perpetuating. the question is, can joe biden we have to stop that. survived this and still stick this piece of legislation that i have introduced, that was the around? purpose of it. >> julie: at times i felt like to put pressure on these he was in a timer. politicians to say, enough is is obama running, or are they enough. >> julie: what do you believe running against trump? would be proper punishment for the sacred obama? anyone who tries to pull this off? >> one to four years. i thought somebody spikes my send a message. drink last night while he was this is a deterrent. watching. >> that may happen, too, but do not do this. do not disrespect our police. all you're doing is hurting our that's okay. >> julie: that's possible. 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>> i think it's obviously the trump administration has made some progress, not just with al qaeda but with isis. they destroyed the caliphate in iraq and syria, a very significant moment. but the u.s. has been, for many years, fantastic at the stuff. the u.s. is fantastic at identifying terrorists, tracking them down, killing them with drone strikes. across the world. where we've had more difficulty -- and i think this isn't just the trump administration to previous ones -- is figuring out how exactly to stop the ideology that leads to people like hamza bin laden being created in the first place. that's where there's probably a bit more work still to do. >> julie: what kind of work do you think needs to be done? >> the ideology of islamism that animates groups like al qaeda, isis, but also less violent organizations like the muslim brotherhood in egypt, it has an enduring strength. it's an ideology that has been growing for decades. islam has taken root not just in the middle east and africa but across the world. in the u.s., europe, and asia. so we need to figure out what it is that is the root of the ideology. what is it that gives it strength, and what can we do with our allies and partners to remove the kind of factors that lead to al qaeda and isis having the success in recruiting they've had over the previous few decades? 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>> i think it's a wise move and defenses were at the fiction, as bolton was just saying. but iran's former minister zarif is like any other. he doesn't have the portfolio powers like most foreign ministers do. high-level national security decision-making is made elsewhere in tehran, but never has one man with so little power been able to do so much. what he has done is present a change in style by iran, a change in substance. he has been able to lift sanction relief, and win friends and the west because a change in sale. >> julie: they said they would restart activities at every nuclear water reactor. could this possibly put further pressure on iran to curb its behavior? >> i think the goal ultimately is to force tehran to come back to the negotiating table. as iran is beginning to incrementally escalate its program, as its incur mentally escalating american interest in the persian gulf and the rest of the region, it'll be up to decision makers to come back to that table. they need to feel the economic pain, the political pain, sometimes even the military pain prayed that there is no way out but through that max pressure, that it's genuine, and america wants a bigger, better, broader deal. >> julie: so we know we are feeling the economic pain. talk about the military pain you feel they should feel. we don't have european allies willing to go in there and finally clean up the mess that is the strait of hormuz. because they completely block ships passing through when they should be allowed to come according to maritime law. >> there's a couple friends that the iranians need to be pushed back on. i've long said that max pressure needs a regional component. the u.s. understands iran is -- there's very little other than american posture that is blocking iran. there is a base in southern syria that impedes the growing land bridge in the region. but it's been the israelis going back iranian networks and mission missile production centers. this operation, operation sentinel, wants to make sure there's freedom of passage and permanent dominic persian gulf, the, the strait of hormuz, and the gulf of oman. this mission is going to be crucial. >> julie: behnam ben taleblu, thank you for talking to us. have a great one. >> my pleasure, thank you. >> julie: use your life at the top of the orb. joe biden reacting for the first time since last night's fiery debates, attacks on president obama's record. now some democrats are warning 2020 candidates not to take shots at his legacy. and the internal sniping could benefit president trump. are they right? 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he was up against a tough crowd. >> yes, he was up against a tough crowd. he's widely being set as the winner, he was still a little slow on the uptick. he he had trouble defending him he looked a little surprised people were attacking him but it was a good night fran, i think. >> when you're the front runner you don't have to have this magnificent night to be declared the winner. the fact of the matter is, if nothing changed under a worst-case scenario, he is still the front runner paid the one thing that's been clear about this primary is every time the media and everyone counts joe biden out, polls teach them they don't know how to count be very consistent after this debate. >> julie: it'll be interesting. you mention counting, they talked about that last night. there's a lot of math there. i didn't have my cat litter but when it came to health care that was a huge debate. health care will cost $200. kamala harris went after biden say he would take ten years. he said mine would take two. what is the math on health care? can you explain it to us? >> this is the problem, i can't explain it and i live in this world. what are voters at home doing when they listen to this debate? the policy debate and defending the finer points of their white paper are at the communications field in my opinion. if the voters at home don't understand what you're talking about, there is no way they will get behind you and believing a policy. >> two things about health care, one, it'll be an issue that only defines his party but i think will define the direction of the election. we know that republicans have failed the american people in health care and that's why we won back in the majority. the third thing we know is that 70% of the american people want to fix the aca and strengthen it. i think joe biden was right. the problem in the discussion last night, the former president, i think it's malpractice. i spoke with four candidates today and told them i think it's political malpractice for them to criticize the legacy of barack obama considering his popularity, considering we know who our next nominee will be. i think it's just malpractice on their part and a failure. >> julie: i think it was interesting that when you think about obama, a lot of democrats don't think about people being deported. as a democrat, you don't think think -- >> they were not in the bubble. >> julie: there were 3 million deportations that was something they went after. he wanted now come the record, did he support the decision to deport? how is that different from what trump is doing? to think that message was received? >> i think it was. they were out there saying 3 million deportations, very aggressively bring this point. immigration activists have said repeatedly they do not support his position on immigration because of what happened during his administration. it's a real problem. if this is the new democratic party where we are talking about open borders and free health care for illegal immigrants and everything else, you have president obama agreeing to a bipartisan immigration deal when he was the president that had a pathway to citizenship and $46 billion in border security. that was considered a compromise bill. how are we going to get anywhere near that again? >> you won't get any disagreement for me that we have to do something about in addition pray they didn't get all the way right, the obama in administration. but i think this primary should not be defined on one aspect of his legacy per the fact of the matter is, the more the candidates attacked the obama legacy, the more african-american voters are going to wrap their arms around joe biden and he will end up being the winner. >> julie: lauren and antjuan, we appreciate you both coming on. fox news alert, on this showdown between the u.s. and china, a new reaction coming from the president just moments ago seems to be putting the brakes on the market rally today. president trump just tweeting in part, "the u.s. will start on september 1st, putting a small additional tariff of 10% on the remaining $300 billion of goods and products coming from china into our country." while that appears to be putting the markets in reverse, this talk between washington and beijing after they just wrapped up with an agreement to talk more in september, the dow right now down about 80 points. september 1st right around the corner, we shall see how those tariffs will affect our wall street and main street. moving on, also dramatic new video of a massive gas explosion in kentucky that killed one person and injured several others. we will have a live report coming up. with us.. ♪ newday usa can help. by re-financing up to 100 percent of your home's value you could take out 50,000 dollars or more. you could use that money to pay credit card debt and other expenses, plan for retirement, and get back on your feet financially. and don't let less than perfect credit hold you back. even if you've been turned down for a va loan by your bank, call newday usa. they've been given automatic authority by the va they can often help veterans when other lenders won't. need money for your family? 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