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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 08:26:00

keith morrison: on march 14, three weeks after nancy pfister was murdered, kathy carpenter, like the stylers before her, was charged with first degree murder and put in the county jail. the newest suspect arrested was katherine carpenter. keith morrison: billy clayton had been on the phone with kathy, just the day before, discussing nancy s memorial service. and i think i was supposed to get something for her to wear to the memorial. keith morrison: but now she was behind bars. seemed crazy, but in a town that could barely believe one of its own had been murdered, anything seemed possible now. i should have been surprised or shocked or something. but at that moment, i just i was like, who knows. anything could happen. i just i it didn t make any sense at all why anyone would kill her. keith morrison: and so, as billy and the others went on finalizing memorial plans, kathy,

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 08:38:00

she said and did against her. i just thought, no, this is not happening. how can they be so wrong. i had nothing to do with this. she was my dear friend. i loved her. keith morrison: kathy s attorney told her, don t worry, the case won t hold up in court. but even if he was right, the trial might be years away. and so she did all that was left to her. and i started praying, praying that the truth would be revealed. that s what i wanted was the truth to be revealed. keith morrison: and then, suddenly, it appeared that it was, the truth, that is. but would anyone believe it. coming up, a stunner from mr. styler. mr. styler, i m going to have you right here, sir. ok. william styler wanted to make a statement.

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 07:46:00

to ruin nation. their financial situation was dire. and they were trying to upon a very nice ring. it was very desperate? it was very desperate. they also knew, from kathy, how angry nancy was at nancy fister. what kind of things that she say? i hate that woman. nancy styler was upset. i could kill her? she did say that. i could just kill that woman. did nancy styler admits that she had threatened the other nancy? did she say, i would like to kill her? she was pretty open about her feelings for nancy and she made some statements that were certainly consistent with that. i said, you know, i would like to ring her neck. because she is such a, a drunk. and making me so crazy.

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 08:32:00

down there in that crowd, how were they reacting? a lot of tears, a lot of laughter, certain stories, and they were all just solidly there in that space at that moment. keith morrison: but at that very same moment, in a far different space, just down the street from the final hotel jerome, kathy carpenter wept in her cell at the pitkin county jail and listened. i could hear the music, the band, and i just i cried. i cried a lot. i wanted to be there. i should have been there. and it hurt. keith morrison: how could they think she had anything to do with it? there was some suggestion that you had a motive to harm nancy. absolutely not. what was my motive? there was no motive. a shared frustration with nancy styler about how

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 08:07:00

it was not getting help for nancy pfister, it was, oh, you should be looking at these two people, immediately. so that was interesting. keith morrison: so it was. and just as interesting, what kathy told 911 about seeing nancy pfister s body. the fact that immediately the deceased is identified as nancy pfister would have been impossible to do. keith morrison: impossible, said investigator lisa miller, because nancy s body was completely covered, head to toe, when kathy saw it in the closet. we re looking at photos of the crime scene. and we knew there s no way she saw what she said she saw. keith morrison: there was more. kathy, of course, had keys to nancy s house, including a key to the closet, was the last person to admit seeing nancy alive, and when she left, pinned up that do not disturb sign on nancy s door, supposedly because her friend needed

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