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Kc/d.c. on msnbc, where was it? it was so good last night. >> thank you. >> new york times reporter mata is with us and mike barn kal and national affairs analyst john heilemann is with us as well. joe is off this morning. were going to start with the firing of former fbi deputy director andrew mccabe. and president trump now raising doubts about whether mccabe kept personal notes about their oval office meetings. two people familiar with the case tell "the washington post" that mccabe memoriali...

Moonlight. hours after k.c.s first police interview, a cheerful joey ramirez showed up at his house. >> hey, k.c., how are you? can we come in? >> he brought a voice recorder and a few more questions. >> how are you this morning? >> all right. >> good, good. >> detective ramirez already knew the answers to some of them. >> when you say work, she works at? >> fullerton. >> cal state fullerton? >> yeah. >> and to some he didnt. >> did you have any marks on your legs or anything? >> no. >> well, le...

Anything. >> exactly. thats why we didnt arrest him right away. >> police needed to see exactly what k.c. joy was doing on those library computers. that would require a very unusual plan. they obtained a search warrant allowing them to watch in realtime every move made on the computer. this is a recording of k.c.s actual computer keystrokes and mouse clicks. thats k.c. checking his e-mail. thats k.c. applying for a job. thats k.c. typing in how long does it take a body to decay. suspicious maybe...

>> hes being very relaxed. i felt that he was very confident that we werent going to figure it out. >> what mr. joy apparently didnt know was that other officers were watching him 24/7. the surveillance teams noticed he was spending a lot of time at the public library, and he was using the computers there. probably because police had taken away his phone and maribels computer, which was the one k.c. normally used. >> initially we would have undercover policemen go into the library and walk aroun...

You tell me. >> he tried backing k.c. into a corner about what might be found on k.c.s hard drive. >> the good thing is if theres anything that you ever deleted that you wish you hadnt, we should be able to help you out with that. >> youre hoping hes going to think to himself, okay, everything ive deleted theyre going to see. >> right. >> didnt work. >> didnt work. we were swinging and missing regularly on a daily basis. >> k.c. joy was willing to talk repeatedly without an attorney. >> k.c., yo...

Your house recently because you guys had an argument? >> wed been drinking that night. she started yelling at me. >> k.c. said it was all just a drunken misunderstanding. >> i dont like you, im not attracted to you. i said, maribel, we had a great time tonight. whats the problem? >> what was the problem? detective ramirez heard from maribels family something very interesting. k.c. joy had wanted to be more than just roommates with maribel ramos. lucy told us the same thing. when did it become ap...

>> it may be a coincidence, but i didnt do it. >> youre being framed here? >> i say yes. if i had a paid attorney, somebody like o.j. simpson had, i would be out. >> so the problem here is not that youre guilty, its that you dont have money? >> exactly. money talks. if i had money, i would not be here. >> k.c. was sentenced to 15 years to life for killing maribell ramos. >> what do you think happened? >> i think she went to bed and he got a pillow and smothered her. as he has this bill low over ...

Over about eight to ten miles. >> this area he was zeroing in on, was it an area that had crossed your field of vision at all? >> no. >> here, k.c. is google mapping a place that no one had searched. watch as he zooms in to that area with that tree. that tree didnt figure in the investigation in any way? >> not in any stretch of the imagination. >> no one had searched there? >> no. >> no reason for that to be in the paper or anywhere else? >> no. its out in a remote canyon location. >> but hes l...

>> by now, posters blanket the city of orange. maribel ramos was missing and her family was frantic. >> as soon as i got the call she didnt show up for her baseball game, i got the worst feeling in the world. >> putting himself out there with all the rest was maribels roommate, k.c. joy. >> shes the only family i have. shes my best friend. thats all. >> k.c. had moved from tennessee to southern california for a job. he had no family and few friends here. so he turned to maribel, and she was happ...

>> those are from fishing lines? >> no, no. i will explain. >> k.c. explained he was walking the dogs when he saw a fishing line in a bush. worrying about the ducks in the park getting caught in the line, he reached in to remove it and got all those scratches. youve been around long enough, you can tell the difference between scratches that a person might get, you know, reaching into a bush, or from an animal, and scratches that somebody would get during a, you know, an actual fight with another...