that they are going to be satisfied with. keeping cruelty on human beings seeking safety when -- asylum seekers, by the nature of what they're doing, are trying to avail themselves of the legal pathway. they're trying to avail them selves in another system. they're literally raising the hands at the border right now and saying i am asking to be processed. i'm asking for protection. i'm asking to do this legally. and what we see time and time again is a system that is set up with obstacles. whether it is the cvp one up, whether it is trapping people in between border wall since we saw on sunday go this week and i saw personally esther day. this type of treatment that is meant to make it impossible for people to actually get protection, none of this is ever going to satisfy the anti immigrant side. >> yeah, i mean, krish, to
fearmongering relief from the anti immigrant side. and the thing is, with these deterrence policies that we're seeing, now no one is ever going to convince fearmongering anti immigrant, that this is somehow the -- borders up and secured in a way that they are going to be satisfied with. keeping cruelty on human beings seeking safety when -- asylum seekers, by the nature of what they're doing, are trying to avail themselves of the legal pathway. they're trying to avail them selves in another system. they're literally raising the heads of the border right now and saying, i am asking to be processed. i'm asking for protection. i'm asking to do this legally. and what we see time and time again is a system that is set up with obstacles. but there is cvp app, whether it is trapping people in between border walls as we saw