Jumping into this conversation, its a little bit of a different kind of conversation that we usually have, but lgbtq life in the Faith Community and Jewish Community, lets just say to start out by talking about what your experience has been in the Jewish Community yourself. Maxine . Well i am going to date myself but i am twice blessed, being a lesbian and being jewish, it was very difficult because i didnt come out until graduate school. Because i didnt think being [null] had anything to being jewish. So i had no role models. I had no one to model myself after, and i didnt think i could be jewish and be [null] , until i met somebody in graduate school at the same seminary that i attended as a communal professional spending nonprofit studying nonprofit management and my first woman lover was there at Hebrew Union College and i thought oh my god, the heavens opened. You mean talk about intersectionality, here were two permanent parts of myself that became integrated. And rabbi zalman .