between, say, white people and black people, that you can see this didn t come out of nowhere. this isn t a reflection of the tone of somebody s skin. it s based in history that goes back before your generation, before my generation, before my grandparents generation. it goes way back. i think there s a balance between recognizing our past, but also not overtalking it and overemphasizing the problem to where it s always on our minds. it s difficult to be very equal when that s something that s always on your mind, racism and things like that. yeah. so please welcome dr. kelly carter jackson. so first off i want to tell you a story about one of my students. he raised his hand and he said, who is harriet tubman, and i was
the incarceration for young black men in this country and why it s so disproportional or why you have the socioeconomic situations you have between say white people and black people, that you can see this didn t come out of nowhere. and this isn t a reflection of the tone of somebody s skin. it s based in history that goes back before your generation, before my generation, before my grandparents generation. it goes way back. i think there s a balance between recognizing our past but also not overtalking it and just overemphasizing the problem to where it s always on our minds. it s difficult to be equal when something is always on your mind is racism and things like that. so please welcome dr. kelly carter jackson.
theory sweeps through, the aclu sued oklahoma arguing its new law banning diversity training in public schools violates freedom of speech. this is cueing up a legal battle revealing just how terrified some americans are of facing our past. joining me now, dr. kelly carter jackson. a professor at wesley college and is featured in msnbc s new documentary, civil war, which looks at all the ways americans frame their civil war stories. that s airing tomorrow night at 10:00 p.m. here on msnbc. i watched it. don t want to miss it. dr. jackson, i mean, first of all, you were great in the documentary. i loved your comments that you were making, but you know, i was so infuriated at some of the comments i heard in the documentary by people who were dismissive of history and truth and data. you make a good point that it s