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humiliating votes, that we can we can him, and and this, or at least we can him. but i think that there is enough of a desire in the rest of the republican caucus to turn the cameras off for a minute, and take it behind closed doors and try to do the horse trading, the concessions, and try to figure out whether it is going to be mccarthy or whether it can be, in that case, what is the plan b, if it is scalise or whatever, they can't do that on the floor of the house. with a succession of votes -- >> but do you think there is a plan b? or is it just kevin mccarthy? >> it's coming mccarthy -- by prediction it is going to be kevin mccarthy, they will get concessions, and it will be kevin. you have not heard from anyone other than chip roy than i have seen, on any network anywhere that has laid out, here are the things that we would like to see happen, or here is an alternative course. >> part of that has been, let's say that it couldn't be mccarthy. let's say no deal could coalesce and it had to go to the next opponent. scalise is a person who has always made
secure the support, has been derided continuously for having done so. now, even his endorsement does not seem to pull anybody. even matt gates, or boebert. >> to a certain extent, it doesn't guys appear like the republican is waterless and leaderless at this point. >> well, mitch mcconnell had a good day. >> that's true. >> don't you want to know what mitch mcconnell is thinking? really, kevin? >> he was excited about the infrastructure package. >> to mitch mcconnell's credit, he's focused on the senate, always has been, always will be. that is the beauty, or the ugliness of mitch mcconnell. he's a very effective legislator. he runs the senate very well. >> now the longest -- >> -- >> so kudos to leader mcconnell. but there is not a singular person in the party, whether it is donald trump, whether it is the rnc, there is nobody who could exercise enough power to make a difference. and i think that is because every decade we draw these districts safer and
congressman-elect, a new one. the members who are voting with democrats to keep the house in session to vote against adjourning, and going home, and coming back tomorrow at noon. so now the question on everyone's mind is the standoff in the house gop, it will drag now into a third day. who will blink first? back with me, david irving, -- adi cornish and margaret talib. on that point, the idea of not adjourning tonight for these four members in particular, you see some of them, you have big, big,'s boebert, gates, and then crane. at least we know boebert and matt gates -- were saying never kevin. the thought of somewhere, look, he does not want to adjourn because there might be a reason to have an alternative vehicle to be voted on and he would lose again in a seventh humiliating defeat, perhaps. how do you see the fact that this wasn't an adjournment tonight? it wasn't adjourning tonight? >> i think that the ones who didn't want to adjourn wanted to just have a succession of
i have never heard, and 29 years, him complain about a situation or his lot in life. he is the child of a fireman. his father, my father died within about a year of each other. kevin has always down the one thing that you never hear about politicians in washington ever doing, he has been humbled. you always hear about pride, i'm proud that i brought this to my constituency -- you don't hear that from kevin mccarthy, you hear humility. it is the way that he grew up and it is the kind of person he is. so if there's anyone who can survive this -- i couldn't -- wait kevin can. >> frank, that does paint a very different portrait of why he is able to endure what many perceive as the sustained humiliation. thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you. it is an honor. >> nfl player damar hamlin,
the party. who will run in the next batch of races? >> and this evening you saw, the congressional leadership club for growth at an announcement, we are not going to attack each other, we are going to play nice in the primaries, to our point about how that was a big deal, the caucus the club -- that maybe a fake leaf, to give people an option to say that was the reason i was holding out, now i will be for kevin. >> -- or it may not be as ugly. it may really fuel an entire regeneration of tea party candidates. >> but it does provide a reason for people to say okay, i'm not -- now can be forgiven. >> or i can vote present or whatever -- but your question, i think that donald trump is, yes, weekend. but this is a weird one because house leadership races are not normally the train of ex presidents. they are the terrain of members of the house. so it is weird for them to insert themselves. also yes, he is supported kevin mccarthy -- but -- not in the, way if he was really, if you are still