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Transcripts For CNN Anderson Cooper 360 20240706

and welcome back to our continuing coverage of the chaos in washington, d.c.. it has been quite a day in quite a night. first, kevin mccarthy lost his 60 vote to become house speaker. the house then adjourned around temps a deal making. consumed members reconvene briefly, only to adjourn again until noon tomorrow. the would-be speaker announcing more upbeat about his chances. cnn s manu raju first broke that news for us. he joins us again tonight from the capitol. so, why are things looking more upbeat for mccarthy? he s hearing some more positive responses from those opponents, the people who have essentially seemed immovable for the past two days. but after a meeting in which mccarthy made a number of concessions on arranging on political issues, how the outside group engages on some key issues as well as giving more power and more sway over themselves the rank and file, at the expense of the leadership. some these members sound like they re moving in his direction.

Transcripts for CNN Anderson Cooper 360 20240604 05:06:00

weighing whether not support him. one of many concessions mccarthy s making and weighing, as he s pushing to get to 200 me team votes, just not there yet. yeah, manu raju, think. you i want to go to cnn s melanie zanona with more developed. she s also at the capitol. what are you hearing, melanie? well, there s been a flurry of meetings. tight so i m told that kevin mccarthy met with a group of freshman members who voted against him. this is really an opportunity to get some facetime with these members, who have not had that opportunity because they are new to congress. and basically, just walk through some of the concessions that he already made and some of these promises in greater detail. but the bigger negotiations going on tonight are involving chip roy and some of mccarthy s allies. and i am told that these are some of the most serious and productive negotiations they ve seen thus far throughout this entire saga. and chip roy tooled gop leadership that he believes, based on h

Transcripts for CNN Anderson Cooper 360 20240604 05:05:00

seats. so what does that mean. non incumbent members of the open house. they re not top of those seats. they re talking about when there are no republicans running for specific seat. and it is considered a safe seat, not a seat that democrats could potentially pick up. so, it would not involve essentially the makeup of the house republican conference. but it could alter the ideological makeup of the republican conference. and that is really the core of that fight. because those members, that outside group, the club for growth, which had pushback against kevin mccarthy s outside group, once more ideological conservatives, more far-right conservatives. they don t want some of the more establishment might at republicans that perhaps kevin mccarthy would be more aligned with. so, that is really the issue between those two. though that agreement is significant, because i ve heard from a number of republicans talking pretty positively about that tonight, including mccarthy himself, to have t

Transcripts for CNN Anderson Cooper 360 20240604 05:48:00

that. this has been on the table, they are banding for sometime. now this is the catch, , anderson i am told that even if these conservatives were reviewing this offer, this is not going to be enough to get kevin mccarthy to 218 votes. some members of the 20 block group, the 20 members who have voted to oppose kevin mccarthy, but not all of them. some others have different concerns that they are trying to work out piece by piece, which is why there is some belief that his close allies are making significant progress, they are bringing off some support, but they are not there yet. so this also raises the question about whether or not tomorrow at noon, when they reconvene, mccarthy can finally get the votes to become speaker. it appears that it is going to be a very

Transcripts for CNN Anderson Cooper 360 20240604 05:11:00

you want to see him as a speaker who s effective and can get things done. do you worry about him making even more concessions that will weaken his power and his ability to actually get the policies that you and he want to get done? i don t have that concern right now, because as i, said he is negotiating. and he is going to bring whatever he is doing or negotiated or dealt with with this group that want to vote for him to conference. are you okay i mean, he s part of the democracy party is. well are you okay with a change that would let one member make a motion to reject the speaker? is that something you d be okay with? , well that something that would disrupt and cause a distraction. but i repeat, democracy is messy. and remember, i go back to what i just told you at the beginning. i stay with what s happening right now versus what s

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