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determine which party controls whether you keep your health care. whether you get tax cuts, or just the rich and big corporations do. whether polluters will continue to be unleashed to befoul the air and water you breathe and yes, the fate of the mueller probe into whether the trump campaign colluded with russia when they attacked our election in 2016 with a goal of electing donald trump. press conference in which five of donald trump's own intelligence officials warned the american people about how dangerous the russian threat is to this country and to the upcoming elections. laid out what the agencies are doing to stop it. and yet, at his rally in pennsylvania, their boss, donald trump, continued to deny russian interference in our elections, didn't happen at all. calling it a hoax just hours
after his own government said the opposite. undercutting his administration again. no signs of intention on countering the russian threat. joining me now is adam elevelev. legal analyst, paul butler and scholar of authoritarian state and author of view from flyover country. dispatches from the forgotten america. everyone is with me as i pop in my chair. let's start with you adam on the question of the election threat. we saw this press conference. everybody seemed to tune in. giving aide and comfort to the
enemy. this is a national security issue. there's no blue states, red states, it's the united states. there aren't good people on both sides. there's one side. walk out to camera, one after the other. take questions. and really make very starkly clear that the threat to our elections is still ongoing. did you see that as a directive potentially from the president or did you see that as maybe the agency taking matters into their own hands. >> my sense, even though they said it was a directive from the president. i felt the agency this is their responsibility. carrying out their responsibility. doing what they need to do in order to help this country get through this. the real issue is why was this 95 days before the election.
sgra sgra great job on realtime. you talked very bluntly about the threat to our election, about what it means, about what the russians want to do. talking about the threat. believe it or not, both from the same day, thursday. >> we had a great meeting with russia. we had a great meeting with putin. >> i'm not in a position to either understand fully or talk about what happened in helsinki. >> if i get along with vladimir putin, that's a good thing. d san antonio secretary. all come out and say there's a threat.
might be in collusion with russia. i got the impression he was almost asking russia to interfere on that level. the same way he did last year almost this time last year with the russia if you're listening statement. we know of two democratic united states senators who have been already targeted. we have claire mccaskill come out and admit one of the lawmakers targeted by russian bad actors. contacted through staff last november by individual who said he worked for the foreign ministry of latvia.
democrats, what does that tell you about whether or not russia is at all deterred? >> well, russia is not deterred. russia has never been deterred. put man in the white house. let's say that bluntly. they now have a working partner in the president of the united states. the president will not lead on this. whatever his oath is sworn to, it is not sworn to the constitution of the united states. one last thing about him and the democrats. every person who is affiliated with the democratic party who is one degree of separation from any one of their politicians, you are at risk. they will go to and three degrees of separation from some of these people to go to your e-mails, even if you're a con stitch went that sent e-mails because you have to remember the
democratic national committee was vacuumed clean of all of its mailing list. so do not -- adam levine will tell you, do not click on anything when it comes into your inbox. >> you're amening that. i see you nodding there. the belief is the russian attack also included grabbing from the rnc. n just never released. still directly focused on democrats. is there alarm out there. does seem the russians are trying to do the same thing to try to achieve the same partisan result. >> people are not worried enough. they haven't been all along. russia has been attacking infrastructure for a number of years. attacked the state department, dod, rnc, dnc, voters rules. penetrated voter databases. we've known this a long time. as pointed out, people haven't taken initiatives. three things i'm worried about going into the midterms.
one is that our election -- we may be hacked again by russia. trying to delegitimize those wins. rhetorical tactic they may well use much as last year they claim the election is going to be rigged. prompted the democratic to say it can't be rigged which backed them in the a corner after the election. the third thing is that the gop may simply not concede. we need to remember roy moore for example never conceded. this is party not interest instead democracy. want a one party state to protect the president whose loyalty is not to this country. i think they will go through any means necessary to try to do that.
make sure no vulnerabilities and educating elected and appointed officials in terms of how to protect yourself with fishing, hacking and those kinds of things. >> i'll ask you, paul, is there some sort of legal remedy for voters if your state is run by a party or entities who just refuse to do any of that. about the russian attacks of democracy, that's also of a piece with why they seem relatively unconcerned with states trying to limit people's ability to vote in other ways. and so the supreme court is considering cases where the states are trying to dilute voting. at the end of the day, we have
to wonder how much americans care about democracy. >> that's the question. do they want to stop it? >> no, they don't. despite everything everyone just said, very good advice, people need no go out and vote anyway. if you value freedom, value democracy, get out and vote. even if you think they are trying to rig it. one thing may help in our favor is overwhelming turnout. so just be aware. take precautions and vote. >> malcolm, you said vote on paper if you can. absentee voting make your safer. >> yes, this is the year to vote early. and then facilitate other people to vote early. and then if you're not going to be there, vote early on paper. get your vote in way ahead of time. in terms of early election. make a statement the democrats are working with republicans look real so they of course could not concede or demand
invalidate the election. that's the worst-case scenario to me. it is harder to flip an election if the election is not close. we're going to have more on this coming up as we get towards the election. paul is going to come back later in the show. adam, malcolm, thank you all very much. up next, hours before he heads to ohio. donald trump, calls ohio's favorite son dumb. he goes after the king. i don't know that was a wise move. more on that when we come back. fact is, every insurance company hopes you drive safely. but allstate actually helps you drive safely... with drivewise. it lets you know when you go too fast...
trump not only uses sports to divide people. seems to relish in taking a shot at people of color. in a tweet overnight. questioned the intelligence of cnn anchor don lemon and nba star lebron james. that would be emmy and edward r award winning don lemon and four time league mvp. trump took that shot at james as he walked don lemon through the new elementary school for at risk children that he recently opened in his hometown of akron ohio. school where kids receive free transportation within two miles. free bikes with bike helmets. free uniforms, food pantries for family and free tuition at the university of akron when they graduate. makes this claim even more off key. >> this is probably the most
proactive administration we've got in urban america and faith based community in my lifetime. bill 60 years old in december. to be honest, this is probably going to be -- i'm going to say at this table, most problack president we've had in our lifetime. >> uh-huh. >> joining me now is sports contribute for forbes and author of white like me. that pastor is one of the fa favorites of donald trump who claims donald trump is the most p pro-black president ever. you're laughing. why are you laughing? >> well, i think it's just very obvious and joy, i'm going to tell you something else that's very obvious. this mad tweet he had last night, in it he said he prefers michael jordan over lebron james and that's not by coincidence. you remember old commercial back in 1990s. be like mike. >> remember those. >> we have it. we can show a little bit of it.
>> well, let's see that. okay. when donald trump says that, he is not referring to that. michael jordan is the most apolitical athlete of all time and disgusting. given tall power michael jordan may have. whether or not michael jordan made the statement to why he's apolitical. this is not in dispute. back in the 80s and 90s, when he played for chicago bulls, he had a teammate named craig who tried to get michael jordan top join him and other bulls players to talk to youth. black youth and chicago. and he wouldn't do it. he didn't want that image. okay. also not a dispute.
also knows in contrast to that you have lebron james not been outspoken, but become a piper to get other athletes involved in the social activism. and the biggest thing he is also putting money where his mouth is. big time. he called trump a bum. >> exactly. >> you know he didn't like that. >> tim, with a lot of donald trump's antipathies whether it's against the "new york times" or the media or cnn or nbc, they're always is this element of sort of what looks like underlying anger because he really wanted to be friendly with this sort of celebrity aspect of prominent person. he wanted their respect and admiration. originally a fan of barack obama before he decided to turn on him and go birther. interesting because donald trump back in 2015 was a stand for lebron james. tweeting positively. great king james.
tough competitor delivers under pressure. then of course came the famous you bum, tweet. in which lebron james was supporting steph curry for not going to the white house over charlottesville and other aspects trump said about race. part of this is about celebrity who we're going to show. here isn't this a little bit about envy. >> it is partly that. let's not pretend it's just that. it's not just about race and playing to a base of supporters who appreciate it when he attacks black people. like steve cur with the warriors, former coach of the pist pist pistons. they all went in on donald trump and frankly used language and
critiques for more biting than what lebron said. yet donald trump says nothing about white coaches who criticize him why because they doesn't pay the same cachet as attacking black folks. whether trump administration white nba or whether it's people like lebron in the nba. so i think we have to recognize there's a very deliberate pattern and also notice the kind of critique. he criticizes a lot of people because what better to do at 4:30 in the morning when your president of the united states than rage tweet, but what he does is he specifically attacks black people's intelligence, whether it's don lemon, whether it's lebron, whether it's maxine waters. likes to use low iq slur. for white folks he uses other types of attacks. i'm not saying he never attacks white folks. he's very specific about the kinds of attacks that he uses on black people and that's not a
coincidence. >> i just to that very point, dan rather made a similar point. apparently what the president of the united states feels he needs to share with the world at which should be long past his bedtime. it's the product of petty, but dangerous hatred. to that very point, donald trump as used that intelligence slur on other black folks as well. congress woman maxine waters long time elected official, obviously very intelligent woman. here's donald trump attacking her on just thursday in pennsylvania. you know who the new leader is, maxine waters. very low iq. low iq. >> and then here is donald trump attacking president obama, barack obama back in 2011. >> i heard he's a bad student. how does a bad student then go to columbia and then go to harvard? how does this happen?
he's a bad student, gets into columbia, top school. gets into harvard, top, top, top school. he's a bad student. how does this happen? >> reinforcing your point, tim. >> this is a buy the who graduated magna couple lawdy from harvard law. head of law review. don't give that out for the hell of it. donald trump has always realized he himself got into penn because the dean felt sorry for dead brother. he didn't get in the traditional way at ivy league school himself. this is a lot of projection on his part. constantly claiming black people don't deserve what they have. the attacks on ballplayers, message to his base is how dare these powerful wealthy black people criticize the country because for black people who have been successful to do so is seen by a lot of white folks on the right as ungrateful. when rich white people like
donald trump criticize america in front of vladimir putin and the press. or criticize on the campaign trail, make america great again. that is apparently okay. god forbid a black person take a knee and protest a racism in the justice system because then they're being ungrateful. part of a long standing and ultimately race resentful and racist pattern. >> here's the thing. >> go on. yes. >> because think about something tim said earlier. probably the greatest coach right now. san antonio spurs and been extremely outspoken against donald trump. ripped him to shreds. i had a conversation this past nba season and i pulled him aside and talked about the donald trump thing. i asked him how many times have you been tweeted against by donald trump? how many times have you been called out by donald trump?
how many times has donald trump called you personally or anybody around you to say he disliked the things you said and popivic did this. 0. 0 times. so tim is on to something there. to piggyback on the black thing about how he is attacking these black athletes or just blacks in general, that's why i love lebron james. okay. lebron james will not be intimidated by this guy. he can't stand donald trump. lebron james, you look at his background to where he came from in akron ohio to where he is right now, it's a phenomenal story and for this guy to be this brilliant spokesperson, very strong and doesn't back down, those are the type of guys that donald trump attacks so in a weird way, this is a huge compliment not only to lebron james, but anybody who is african-american who dare to stand up and tell the truth about this guy.
>> he's heading to ohio for a rally. the school is incredible. lebron james is putting his money where his mouth is. educated. very wealthy and very popular. can't make donald trump happy. thank you guys very much. appreciate you both. meanwhile, the manafort trial continues. we will bring you the latest details next.
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long before the election took place. he was only there a short period of time. >> paul manafort is a nice guy. worked for me for a very short period of time. literally like, what, a couple of months. little period of time. >> manafort has nothing to do with our campaign. >> paul manafort the former trump campaign chair whose role trump spent months trying to down play went on trial in virginia for tax and bank fraud charges. so far prosecutors outline what they say was lavish lifestyle. he seemed to be a particular fan of rare bird costumes. allegedly financed with some of the more than $60 million he raked in working for a pro russia political party. made a significant percentage of the earnings from the irs. while on friday, manafort's
bookkeeper testified she not only knew about his tax fraud, but that she went along with it because she was afraid to confront a long time client. join me now, former campaign adviser david k johnson, even worse than you think. i'll ask you both. start with you sam, explicitly the manafort trial is not about donald trump, but implicitly the manafort trial is about why someone who was earning $60 million working for pro russia ukrainian party suddenly working for free for donald trump and apparently was broke. >> i was happy when manafort got hired. i wanted corey lewandowski pushed out of the campaign. what was manafort going be paid? wasn't going to be able to get organization. trump was not going to give anybody money on the back end for commercials. what was he not getting a $20,000 a month salary. him coming in also for free
having owned an apartment in trump tower, trump had been familiar with him because of the 80s. helped also strategically to push out cory reed who was going to give him problems. >> what was manafort going to get then if he wasn't getting money. >> publicity. get back in the game. now he was able -- in the very least had cory not been fired, he was going to run the delegate campaign. he was always upset and had a falling out with rick davis in 2008 for mccain. rick pushed him out and didn't want him involved. didn't want manafort involved in the delegates there a. >> that's my benign explanation. >> one more to you before i bring david in. you have paul manafort who got relationships with pro russia forces in ukraine. the one thing that gets changed by the trump campaign in the
republican plank was the ukraine plank in the -- in the rnc platform to make it more russia. then you've got roger stone who is manafort's long time business partner who comes in and low and behold he's talking to guccifer 2.0. trying to get dirt on hillary clinton. it does feel like at the end of the day what manafort and stone were doing was edging that campaign closer to russia. >> the reality is in terms of roger, i didn't want to say publically. donald trumproger. i had to fight with then candidate donald trump. i was the first political higher. took a salary of $10,000 a month. normally would have been $20,000. part of it was i negotiated with then mr. trump to say please bring radiologier in. i was loyal to roger roger helped me get in this working for trump. i was going to need his help. whatever you think about him, he happens to be smart and have
good political background. trump didn't want him involved. okay. this whole idea when -- and i can certainly tell you when bannon took over the campaign, cory was kind of put back into the atmosphere, roger had nothing to do with the campaign. he didn't -- he hadn't set foot in the trump tower at least until december or november after trump was elected from the time manafort left the campaign. >> at the same time, david k johnson, what you do have is a lot of people and starting with manafort who seem to have relationships that were russia related. and that they were attempting at least it looks like to put into the service of that campaign. >> all of this goes back to russia and i must say i'm impressed with sam's ability to take this off from minutia and not deal with the issue right in front of us. paul manafort was in desperate financial strain. we know that from testimony and documents in the trial. he takes a job for free and the reason you do that is you're
hoping that this loss-leader will get you other work in the future and low and behold e-mails showing that paul manafort was right up there offering private briefings and talking to the russians. there's a word for all of this by the way. it's called conspiracy. and it is conspiracy to defraud the united states of america. that is exactly what was going on here. >> do you have a sense, david, from your reporting of how it is that somebody who earned $60 million working for a pro russia ukraine faction ended up broke. >> the man spent wildly beyond his means. i've written about a lot of people who have gone through incredible fortunes one way or another. this brings up another important issue. that is we have 160 million taxpayers in this country. we have about 1600 tax prosecutions a year and most of those are drug traffickers or politicians that took bribes. we don't make any serious effort in this country to go after very high income tax cheats and boy
is paul manafort's record in this trial showing that they have a slam dunk case for calculated tax cheating. >> before i come back to sam, do you think that manafort eventually particularly if he's convicted will turn state's evidence against donald trump. >> i have no way of knowing. it's always been my theory that manafort has done so many illegal things and so deep that his only hope was to avoid going to trial and delay. >> i've got to come to you and give you an opportunity to respond to roger stone who you just talked about. you said you had to beg his way on the campaign. he actually trashed you. on air, you were on and you said you believe that roger stone will be indicted. he responded to that by going after your anatomy. >> very nice. >> by saying you're an alcoholic and saying some other untoward things about you. you want to respond. we've got it on the screen for people to see. i don't have to read it. >> this is wonderful.
my response is first off, i had warned roger throughout the campaign not to communicate, not to pretend he was communicating with julian assange, not to even communicate with guccifer, i have no idea about these direct. i have no idea about direct messages over twitter. roger may not like it. i don't support him getting indicted. i don't support this why thad if roger was talking to guccifer was a conspiracy to defraud america. roger has gotten us all involved in this investigation. i would not have been called in, but for my relationship with roger. i was the campaign all of six weeks. i don't presently have a good relationship with the president. it is what it is. i'm sorry. i don't like that he's getting indicted. i didn't like having to spend legal fees and go into the grand jury and meet where robert mueller's team. you think that's fun. no. >> at the end of the day, you think manafort will flip. >> no, i don't think he will. i don't think he will. what is he going to get for one
i don't know what he does. >> that's probably not the case. >> sam. david, thank you guys. have you back. coming up in your next hour, robert mueller makes another effort to get trump to testify. and sessions launches a holy war. stay with us. possibilities than ever before. and american express has your back every step of the way- whether it's the comfort of knowing help is just a call away with global assist. or getting financing to fund your business. no one has your back like american express. so where ever you go. we're right there with you. the powerful backing of american express. don't do business without it. don't live life without it.
attorney general jefferson sessions announced a zero tolerance border at the border forcing families to be separated. hundreds of children remain apart from their parents and now the trump administration is trying to make the aclu solve the problem that the administration created. joining me now is jacob soboroff. jacob, what was the response of the court to the request from the trump administration that the aclu, a private civil rights organization, reunite some 500 parents that the trump administration separated from their kids? >> so we can't actually see into this courtroom, joy, because they are now doing telephone conferences which you can listen in and i can imagine that the judge was kind of just like what -- what is this? i mean, that was what he said. he said this is an unacceptable plan, the idea that the trump administration which systematically separated 2,551 kids is now saying to the organization that is suing it, hey, why don't you guys take the lead in reuniting the remaining
572 children since essentially you want to do it so bad. it's just a bizarre idea. that's really the only way to describe it. why would the trump administration put onus on the agency, the group, the outside group, nonprofit group, with limited resources, finite resources that is suing it to do -- to do its own dirty work basically. >> it's pretty incredible. another thing that's happening this week is we're learning more about the facilities where both children that were separated by the trump administration and children who were unaccompanied or have been held and three quick stories, a pro publica piece, a worker charged with sexually molesting eight children at one of these immigrant shelters. there has been increasingly intense scrutiny of the federally funded privately run shelters. pro publica can a reported police nationwide have responded to hundreds of calls reporting possible sex crimes at shelters
that serve immigrant industry. an an nbc report that ordered kids removed from a shelter that was using psychotropic drugs and a girl that escaped from a detention center and was to scared that she was quivering in the corner. >> we're putting migrant children into these facilities which we call shelters in lieu of finding a better solution for dealing with an influx, which is, by the way, no the just during the trump administration but during the obama administration, even before that which has a long history of people coming into the united states. we were cold when we were down there at the southwest key facility which is the organization that mansion one of the groups in that story about the molestations that they do give children medication without the permission of their parents because the children are essentially in the custody of hhs. they told us when we were there, here are telephones to deal with incidences of sexual abuse and
sexual assault inside these facilities. none of this stuff is new but it's symptomatic of a larger problem which is the inability -- first of all, it's horrific, secondly it's systematic of a larger problem which is the inability of the united states government to actually deal with in a holistic way migrants coming into this country in an undocumented fashion and the trump administration exacerbated it on an exponential scale by taking kids away from their parents. >> i understand you have a documentary out, there is a short documentary you have created about life after reunification. >> we teamed up with the nbc left field unit which is our experimental documentary unit and you are taking a look at maria and her boys, franklin and byron. they came from honduras, they were separated and put into that facility in mcallen, the kids were put into cages that i saw with my own eyes. it took them a month and a half to get reunited. there are 572 that still haven't been put together with their parents u parents, but the 1,400 that have have a long way to go.
attorney general jeff sessions has made a asylum claims more difficult and there are parents that face immediate deportation as of today. >> where can we see this? >> nbcnews.com/left field. >> excellent. everybody please check that off. jacob, you've been doing great work. thank you. >> more "a.m. joy" after the break. into making america's #1 shave. precision machinery and high-quality materials from around the world. nobody else even comes close. now starting at $7.99. gillette. the best a man can get.
counsel. why are you dragging it out? don't you know what you want to do now? >> yeah, sure i do. i don't want to do it. >> it is now past the fourth of july where do we stand? >> we would not recommend an interview for the president unless they can satisfy us that there is some -- some basis for this investigation. >> we haven't made a final decision there is still a slight opening. >> we're still -- i'm not going to give you a lot of hope that it's going to happen but we are still negotiating, with he haven't stopped negotiating with theme. >> welcome back to a.m. skroi. the on again off again question of whether donald trump will sit down with special counsel robert mueller appears to be back on. according to "politico" rudy giuliani says a decision on whether trump will grant an interview will happen in the next week to ten days. you might want to take that with a grain of salt, this isn't the first time giuliani has invoked a short timetable on making a decision on the interview, it was supposed to be made back in may, then in june, then once again in july. trump himself said this in january. >> are you going to talk to
mueller? >> i'm looking forward to it, actually. >> you want to? >> just so you understand, there has been no collusion whatsoever. there is no obstruction whatsoever. and i'm looking forward to it. >> trump apparently is still pushing his lawyers to make the interview happen. in a recent report from "the new york times" gives some insight as to why. according to the times, get this, trump, quote, believes he can convince the investigators for the special counsel, robert mueller, of his belief that their own inquiry is a witch-hunt. joining me now democratic congressman from california eric swal we will, jill wine-banks, former senior fbi official chuck rosenberg and professor of law at georgetown university school of law paul butler. thank you all for being here. congressman, your thoughts on the idea that donald trump believes that his powers of persuasion are so great that he will be able to you can walk into robert mueller's investigative unit and convince them that their investigation is a witch-hunt. >> what's taking so long, joy,
if that's really what he believes, he is the one that complains every day that this investigation is taking so long and it looks like they've interviewed everyone that donald trump has ever known except donald trump. so, you know, for all the complaints he has about the length of this investigation, if he were to just answer the questions that by the way have already been provided to him i bet this whole investigation would be wrapped up a lot sooner. >> the other question s and i can't resist asking you this because you do serve in the u.s. house of representatives where your colleagues on the other side of the aisle have also claimed that this was a witch-hunt, have also a couple of them threatened to impeach r rod rosen stein. is there any embarrassment at the stance they've taken? >> zero, joy. and i think that that will only come from the voters this november. i've heard across the country, i've been helping a lot of our younger candidates running across the country and going to
their districts in rural areas, in suburban areas. this issue is actually very much at the top of their mind. not so much as to what did the president do with the russians. they're going to let bob mueller figure that out, but what is the president doing to the rule of law and to our democracy and who is willing to stand up to him as he is a wrecking ball. i think the republicans are going to pay a price this november and i hope those that have been fearful of doing the right thing because they don't want the president to tweet at them or call them out in a speech, i hope in january when it's a democratic majority they realize it's time to do the right thing because we are going to have two more years of this wrecking ball and it's time for all of us to put our hands together and push that big red button that will make it stop. >> a lot of law degrees in front of me, including yourself congressman. i want to go around the horn to our legal panel. i will start with chuck rosenberg new to the show and get your reaction to what the mueller team that is proposed in terms of an interview with
donald trump. this is according to the new york times, this he would discuss possible coordination with trump associates and the russians whether trump tried to obstruct justice, this he would agree to accept some written answers from the president and preserve the ability to have trump answer follow-up questions in person. what do you make of that proposal? is that standard operating procedure? how unusual would that be? >> there's nothing standard about this, joy, but what i think mueller and his team are trying to do here, and it's a strategic decision, is avoid a fight. meaning if they can get all or most of what they need voluntarily, that's better than issuing a grand jury subpoena and litigating the issue inevitably before the supreme court. there is a difference between need and want. all prosecutors, and i was a federal prosecutor for a long time -- all prosecutors want as much evidence as they can possibly get. they want to talk to every single person connected to the investigation. this he would want to talk to the president. but do they need it? and the answer is perhaps not
because through other witnesses, through the president's own public statements, through documents, through e-mails, through bank records, through tax returns they can get most of what they need. i think that's an important distinction. >> and, chuck, do you think that the concern among mueller's team might be that if, as you said, this he may not need to have donald trump's testimony, but that if they didn't get it and then they were to issue a report without having spoken to him, are they concerned do you think about the perception that the process may not have been as fair to him as possible? >> well, and, joy, that's an excellent point. that's why they have to try to get it. so getting it voluntarily, perhaps not under ideal terms, but getting most of what they need and want voluntarily allows them to write a full report and to detail all the facts they found, including what the president told them. >> jill wine-banks then you have the other question of compulsion, of what power the mueller grand jury has to compel the president of the united states to testify. we know in the nixon case that
there was an ability to compel the president to turn over documents, but what happens if donald trump, let's say, refuses a subpoena? >> well, the same thing would have happened in watergate if the president had refused the subpoena, his daughters accepted the physical service of the subpoena and then he refused to comply with it and it went to the supreme court and the supreme court in very clear terms 8-0 with one judge recused from the case said that there was an absolute right for the prosecution to have the documents and that the president wasn't above the law and had to turn them over. i would predict that the same would be true for testimony, that the supreme court would say that there is a right for the prosecution if there's no other way to get the evidence to get it from the president. so he would be forced to testify. if i could go on to something that chuck said, there is a big difference between need and
want, and the only reason that i can see that mueller might want the testimony is because if he has it in advance, one, it is something that will then look completely fair, the president had his shot at convincing the grand jury that it was a witch-hunt or that he was innocent, but also because he would then -- he, mueller, would then know trump's defense and he would be able to answer that in advance. so if he's issuing a report, the report would be able to say, here is the case that we have and here is the defense and here is why the defense doesn't stand up. so i think there is an advantage to both sides, the president gets his shot at convincing the grand jury and the prosecution gets a chance to know in advance and answer it in advance because the strongest defense is by saying it in advance. so it's much better for the prosecution to be able to say in the report what their answer is.
>> and, paul butler, let's go down the theoretical road for a moment. jill has laid down in the nixon case you had an 8-0 ruling that the president had to turn over documents. let's say in the current court you get a 5-4 which is the most likely outcome ruling that donald trump had to appear before the grand jury, that he had to answer a subpoena, and donald trump simply say no, then what happens? >> well, he could be required to come in and take the fifth amendment, which he would have a constitutional right to do if he would be exposed to charges by testifying. you know, if mueller does not require or subpoena trump to testify i think there are three pocke possibilities, the first is as jill and chuck said mueller believes that he does not need trump's testimony to make his case, the second possibility is the case as you note, joy, would almost certainly go to the supreme court and maybe mueller
doesn't want that protracted litigation, the third possibility if mueller does not subpoena trump is that mueller now sees trump as a target of the investigation. heretofore trump has been a subject, kind of like a person of interest, but the department has a policy where it does not subpoena targets. so if he's not subpoenaed that could be quite bad news for president trump. >> and i want to come back very quickly, congressman, while we are on the theoretical thing -- sort of questions. the "washington post" has a piece out about why trump's lawyers fear an interview with mueller. here is piece, it says trump's lawyers don't just fear that he will lie to mueller about his efforts to scuttle the investigation, it's very likely that they also fear might tell the truth about those efforts which could also be incriminating. let's say donald trump were to go in, give this interview, incriminate himself in a way that compelled robert mueller to write a report that would
normally produce impeachable offenses, what would then happen in the house of representatives? >> that's right, joy. i actually believe that this has always been hurdling towards, well, wouldn't we want to know what the russians had on hillary clinton anyway? you've seen trump associates intimate that, whether it's rudy giuliani or even donald trump defending his son taking the meeting last year saying this happens all the time in politics. i think that's where it ultimately goes and so then it really comes to the house judiciary committee where i sit and it's a question of do we believe that president trump is above the law and we're just going to give him a pass or do we say that it doesn't matter what his political party is, you cannot work with a foreign adversary to beat your opponent and you have to be held accountable. i think the best way, joy, is to find a bipartisan way to investigate this president, but again, if that's not going to happen, then republicans are going to lose this november at the ballot box because the
american people do not believe anyone is above the law, not this president and they are going to want him to be held accountable if he crossed some red lines. >> chuck, i think a lot of people who have been watching this saga play out over time and have watched donald trump do have that question of even though you would serve a subpoena. you literally -- and i will throw this out to all my lawyers on the panel, start with you, chuck, what happens if a subpoena is served to donald trump in which he is compelled to testify before the grand jury and he simply refuses to take it. who will make him take it? >> right. so for you or me, joy, if we refuse to take a subpoena, if we refuse service or if we -- we're served, if someone handed us a subpoena and we didn't show up we would be held in con emt it, it's pretty simple. and that happens from time to time. this is a much tougher question and i would actually be fascinated to know what jill has to say about it because i can almost assure you they had to have had this conversation with respect to president nixon. you know, the president is surrounded by federal law enforcement officers. >> that's right.
>> every day. we happen to call them secret service agents. i would imagine we would be putting them in a very difficult position if we asked one of them to serve a subpoena on the sitting president when their main job, their primary job is to protect him. i would love to know what jill has to say about this. >> j i wilill? >> well, it was definitely a subject of discussion. we debated how we would get it to him, but it was very simple because richard nixon for all his flaws did believe in the rule of law and he agreed to accept service through his attorneys, which is, of course, a normal proceeding. then we had the question of, okay, now we've won the case, how are we going to get the tapes? the court said we have a right to them. you can't just send someone into the white house. there are guards all around. >> right. >> luckily, again, they actually did eventually turn them over. they agreed to turn them over and they did turn them over. so we were lucky, but it is a
real issue that was very current because there was an issue about jared kushner being -- resisting service in a new york case brought by the dnc and secret service would not allow process servers to approach the house and serve him. of course, they weren't authorized representatives to accept service as attorneys might be and eventually the dnc went to court and said, your honor, the only way we can get it to him is through the u.s. mail which will be delivered to his house, and eventually the secret service said, well, we made a mistake and you can actually serve him and so he has now accepted service, but it had to go to court and they had to say, well, we will serve it by u.s. mail. that will get to him. >> yeah. >> hey, joy, i have an idea as to where you could serve him. >> yeah. >> give it to his caddy, that's where you're most likely to find him, on the golf course. >> bring it right on the putting green, like that may be the way
to go. before we go i have to ask jill wine-banks what's your pin? >> my pin is a goose because i think manafort's goose is cooked. the evidence is really strong, it's gone in very well and the defense hasn't dented it. mrs. manafort left the courtroom in tears after the testimony about her husband hiding accounts and lying about his taxes. >> i can't hear. >> that's why i'm wearing this pin today. >> the goose is cooked. the pins need their own book. do the pins have a twitter account yet? >> they do. it's #jill'spins. >> i'm tolling that as soon as the show is over. thank you all very much. and next up donald trump stops pretending to be a populist and flat out announces a huge tax cut for the super rich. that's next. (vo) why do subaru forester owners always seem so happy? because they've chosen the industry leader.
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small businesses or farms, it's for the super rich. "the new york times" reports that the administration is considering bypassing congress to grant a $100 billion tax cut mainly to the wealthy. it's a move that could lead to a court challenge. the george h.w. bush administration considered a similar move back in 1992 only to back off after concluding that the treasury department didn't have the authority to do it on its own. joining me now senior analyst ron ansana, robert p. jones ceo of the public religion research institute and republican strategist sara rumpf. who is it possible that they can they can pass this for the rich. >> they are contemplating an executive order that would allow the treasury department to index capital gains, those gains that you earn on stock price appreciation, real estate appreciation, any asset to inflation. >> okay. >> so instead of getting inflation creep where your
capital gains taxes go up you you get a break on that, it would cost the government $100 billion over ten years. >> you would be paying taxes on a lower stated income because you are able to write it down -- >> capital gains. >> you're saying that this is not actually something you can do without congress. >> not as far as we can tell. the power of the purse entirely resides with congress and the power to tax or reduce taxes for that matter resides with congress. i'm not sure what the basis is for this. >> yeah. >> but it doesn't seem plausible. >> there is a piece out where they say stop calling trump a populist. time enough to be judged on what he does not on what he says and his administration has been -- trump is about as populist as he is godly meaning not at all. how does he get away with the mon kerr of being a populist when what he does is to help the rich and hurt the working class. >> on one hand it's the lies. he continues to lie blatantly saying this piece of policy is
going to hurt him as a rich person. most republican presidents haven't been able to speak entire falsehoods like that about their agenda and get away. the second is the media, there was so much compare son between him and jeb bush and the field at the beginning. he was the most virulent racist in the field and the other was to throw this populist crud out there. he would praise bernie sanders, talk about protecting social security. i think the media got caught up in the fact that they are not used to that rhetoric and slapped a populist moniker on him. it is beyond time to stop allowing him to get away with it. >> some of us started talking about that in 2015. >> stop using the brand. sara, you write for red state, i read on a reg lace bases. when you go on sites like red
state there are things you just don't see. there are things that don't make headlines that aren't being emphasized because in the world of republicans donald trump is doing great, the economy is better than it's ever been as far as a lot of republicans are concerned. let's show this bikini chart. this is our favorite chart. it shows you what president obama inherited, that's a deep friend going down, the economy gets better, trump comes along, he hasn't appreciably changed the economy. the economy added 157,000 jobs in july, the unemployment rate did go down lower to 3.9%. he gets a lot of credit for it, but the economy is not better in the trump era than it was in the obama era. friday's report shows job growth is slower, at a slower rate than in five years. so how is it that donald trump gets this sort of credit for having somehow revolutionized an economy that he hasn't changed and why is it that the republican party doesn't care --
>> -- always take credit for the economy no matter what's going on. they want to take credit for when the stock market is going well, always want to take credit for unemployment rates going down. that's common. every single president in the modern era has done that. i am very proud of the fact that at red state we have diverse opinions on our front page about trump. this has been an interesting proposal to see because conservatives we spent several years criticizing obama for using his phone and his pen when he would get frustrated at congress and would snap to it and pass bills that he wanted to see. so, you know, this is a kind of situation where we have a president now and just because he's technical clee on our side if he's doing something that is traditionally very much within congress' wheelhouse this is a time where congressional republicans do need to step up and exert their authority and say this is supposed to be our job. >> they have never done that. when are they going to do that? they concierge for interest ump. >> a girl can dream. i'm saying it would be good to see. the i would like to see it, this
is something i'd like to see congress step up and say this is our job, step back. >> let me go to my data man. it is confounding to a lot of people, robbie, that you have republicans who ostensibly are against things like tariff, it hurts their base, hurts people growing soybeans when you have china slapping on additional tariffs, it hurts the steel industry. when you interview people who are personally being hurt they go i love trump even though they personally are being hurt. trump is saying i'm going to pass this giant tax cut just for the rich. the people who are getting nothing they don't mind. why is that? >> i think it's right to say that there is very little benefit to certainly white working class voters, 90% of these benefits will accrue to the top 1% of the population. it also goes against public sentiment. we have eight in ten americans saying we should raise taxes on the wealthy not lower them. if you pull the lens back we do see a lesson here.
it's always been a mistake to think of donald trump as an economist populist. there has been had a of dozen studies debunk that it was economic anxiety drivers voters to trump, instead it was cultural anxiety. his rhetoric around anti-immigrant, against muslims, those are the things that resonated with people as they were seeing a changing america and trump saying i'm the guy who is going to hold the line. i think thinking about trump as a white christian nationalist is the best way to understand trump support. doesn't matter what scandals we've seen, what policies we've seen. the other thing we want to point out here is that trump's favorable has been low but it has been very stable. four in ten all along the way and when we ask trump supporters if there was anything they could -- that trump could do to lose their support fully four in ten trump supporters say there's
virtually nothing he could do to lose my support. in many ways on something like this their support for him lies in the cultural not in the economic realm and given that strong support this many ways i think he has calculated rightly that he has something of a blank check here. >> meaning attracting lebron james is what's helping him. >> let me come back to in a second but the meat of the matter with respect to this capital gains tax cut is the argument is it will create more available capital for businesses to invest and create more jobs. same argument that was used for the larger scale tax cut. all the money is being used for stock buy backs, dividend increases, mergers and acquisitions not so much wages and jobs. we have a short j a of labor and a sur plaus of capital, we don't need more capital. we have 6.6 million open jobs, 6.3 million unemployed and a skills gap that needs to be addressed. none of this does this which is not only costly but doesn't address the underlying problems. >> wall street loves donald trump because they are just making money and it doesn't matter. >> profits are up enormously.
>> this weekend is a perfect dike tee of the two masters trump serves. he needs to attack lebron and offer this capital gains tax cut at the same time because there are two constituencies he has to appeal with, one is this racist ba base, but he has to make sure that they are on board all the time and there is more of that populist idea there so he has to pretend that he's for the working man to do that. however, what they really care about per that point is the racism. he keeps doing that. on the other hand he has your standard traditional republican base, the very wealthy and the cooperations who need to have -- >> they give him money. >> exactly. >> the lebron comment is indefensible, he is dehumanizing people of color and this is a self made soon to be billionaire given back to his community. >> soon for richer than donald trump and already more popular
than donald trump. thank you very much. robert will stay with us. onward christian soldiers, jeff sessions is ready to go to war. i've been making blades here at gillette for 20 years. there's a lot of innovation that goes into making america's #1 shave. precision machinery and high-quality materials from around the world. nobody else even comes close. now starting at $7.99. gillette. the best a man can get.
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apparently can't do without being harassed. a smith college student says she was minding her own business having lunch in a campus common room on tuesday when the police arrived. she is a rising sophomore and was sold by officers they were responding to an employee who called about a suspicious black man on campus. she offered the perfect response. >> and the thing is whoever saw me had a concern about me being there, they could have asked me. i speak four languages, i'm sure i could speak one of the languages they spoke like english, obviously. >> the president of smith college has apologized over the incident. the officer actually apologized to her as well at the time and the employee who called police, well, they've been placed on leave. obviously the real answer is to make sure these incidents don't happen in the first place, i don't know, by like not calling police on people just because you're uncomfortable seeing someone that doesn't look like
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he calls a dangerous movement threatening the country. no, not ongoing russian threats to our elections, instead sessions announced the religious liberty task force to combat what he considers threats to religious freedom. but civil and human rights groups slammed the task force fearing it will give people and businesses the green light to discriminate in the name of one particular religious. noi robert p. jones is back with me. bishop barber i want to play more about jeff sessions had a had to say. >> we've gotten to the point where courts have held that morality cannot be a basis for law, where ministers are fearful to affirm as they understand it holy writ from the pulpit and where one group can actively
target religious groups by labeling them hate groups. so we're going to remain in contact with religious groups across america to ensure that their rights are being protected. >> and one of those groups is the alliance defending freedom, an organization that backed the summit where sessions made this announceme announcement, a conservative christian nonprofit that played a role in 54 supreme court victories. how do you read this idea of having a religious freedom task force, bishop barber? >> joy, the hypocrisy and the irony of jeff sessions who recently used a segregationist tactic when he misinterpreted scripture to support his enforcement of unjust racist and evil policies to snatch, kidnap and take brown, mexico and latino families from their families. for him to claim that he and donald trump are the save years of religious freedom, it would be laughable if it wasn't so horrible, you knew.
so i remember r irreligious and so untrue. as one who was arrested for engaging in moral protest it seems that sessions is not interested in protecting the love and truth and justice that critiques the nation on how we teeth the poor but he wants to protect and give cover for what i call the trump-vangelicas or to support republican extremism that is rooted in hate and division and undermine civil and human rights. >> jonathan, i highly recommend there is a piece that you have up at nbc's think about this task force, you say when groups like the adf talk about religious liberty they are really talking about liberty for one specific religion, christianity. it has become a rallying cry for conservatives whose interests are reversing roe v. wade.
are you accusing this task force of being designed to allow thes things to happen. >> yes, i think that's the history of the adf if you look at it. more broadly i think this way that religious freedom is being framed is rooted in the history of slave holder religion and the way in the 20th century that it tried to justify discrimination by using this american value of religious freedom. this is what bob jones university did when they tried to keep black students out by saying they were a religious institution that had the right to exclude them. >> i think we have some problems with jonathan's audio. i want to go to robbie screens. you have some research out from prri and the question that you asked in one of these prri surveys, should business owners be allowed to refuse wedding-related services to same-sex couples if it violates their religious beliefs. 46% said that business owners should be allowed to refuse service and 48% said they should be required to provide them. is that a number that's changed
over time and who was polled there? >> so this is a survey of all americans and that number has changed a bit. the last time we asked that we had a majority saying that small businesses should not be allowed, that was prior to the case at the u.s. spect. so we've seen a shift in five points more toward allowing businesses particularly wedding-related businesses to -- allow them to refuse service, however, one of the more important numbers is if you look at african-americans on this issue, we find among african-americans who by the way are fairly divided on the issue of same-sex marriage but nonetheless when we asked them about this 63% of african-americans say that small businesses should not be allowed to refuse service to gay and lesbian americans even if it's based on their religious objections. i think there we see just the very basic experience that this has echos of lunch counter, you know, refusals and businesses turning away african-americans. that's in our not so distant
past that's going on. one other point is that there is a slight of hand going on here. if you listen carefully to sessions' rationale he talks about protecting people of faith but i want to sharpen that up because when sessions says protecting people of faith what he really means is conservative white christians and particularly white evangelical christians but that group is an outlier in the country on these issues. they are the only group that opposes -- only religious group that opposes same-sex marriage in the country. white evangelical protestants are the only religious group now that opposes same-sex marriage in the country and they are the only group that wants to allow small businesses to refuse service to lbgt people. >> bishop barber, it felt for a while like this whole question of lgbt rights settled in the country even among religious people. does this surprise you that this
battle front is being reopened? >> it doesn't because if you understand the same rationale as robbie said that is used to say a business ought to be able to deny an lbgt person is the same rationale as the segregation issues and the slave holders used. they said religious said segregation and slavery is all right. it seems like sessions has been hollering to protect religious but if you look at the policies they are those that create policies and support policies that suggest that god is an agent of systemic racism, a homophobe, a god that wants to take healthcare, steal voting rights, a gun touting god. that seems to be the freedoms he wants to protect. he doesn't want to protect the freedom really of that religious tradition that critiques our government. i just said the other day if sessions wants to do something rooted in rel skrus values he should ask -- the task force
should repent and stop misusing scripture to justify snatching, kidnapping and abusing brown children. get the babies back with their families and pay those human beings compensatory and punitive damages. stop attacking voting rights, healthcare and workers. >> i'm not sure the mic will be better, but there some argument that can be made to religious serve thifs that would be more powerful than what jeff sessions is offering? >> oh, yes, that's why i'm here. thank you for inviting me to preach the good news because there is good news even for white wrist krans, it's the same thing that every mess injury that comes to the people of god says in the bible. don't be afraid. fear not is what the angels say because fear is being used to play religious values for political gain. the important thing for white christians is to realize that we can be free from this slave holder religion, we can trust the true and living gospel, we can learn from those people who have prayed the psalms through
great struggles and know that weeping may endure for a night but joy comes in the morning, that's the original "a.m. joy." >> thank you very much, jonathan wilson heart grove, thank you robert p. jones and, by the way, thank you william barber. i want to give a special shout out and huge congratulations to you, bishop barber, in celebrating 25 years of preaching at green leaf christian church. don't think we forgot. we were going to call you out on tv. congratulations on your 25 years and all of the great work that you've done. thank you for being here and congratulations, sir. >> thank you so many. god bless you. >> we have more for you. take a look. watch at the screen. here are some more congrats lat tore messages. >> big shout out to dr. william barber on your 25th anniversary. i'm sure there is a major celebration going on there in north carolina. of course, you have been on the front lines holding america accountable. >> happy 25th anniversary. thank you for picking up the
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it's a question of whether or not they want more donations or want to break the law. considering that they're in trouble with the department of justice, for example, been thought that they took $30 million in funds and funneled it from russia to the nra. >> and martin luther king jr.'s son, martin luther king iii said there's been no movement like the parkland surviveors movemen. and 50 new gun laws since parkland happened. and that's from pew research so, obviously, what you guys are doing is effective? >> yeah, absolutely. >> yeah, most definitely. i think march for your lives is.
i come from milwaukee, wisconsin, i experience it day by day. people of color in these cities and communities do not get the coverage and we speak about injustices and that's march for our lives. that's not inconclusive. but it's conclusive and ability to speak up about their truths. >> you know, when i look at north carolina look at where they had the first sit-in, it's not just happening to americans. it's white people, asians, native-americans, all americans as human beings standing up. >> and to divide and conquer, we can't like push an agenda that is just like focusing on a group of people where everyone is affected by these issues because it's a human rights issue. >> absolutely. one thing you have focused on is border registration. it's important to get your generation interested in voting and the power of their vote. talk what about you're hearing out there in the world as you
guys are touring in the country and trying to inspire your generation to vote. >> i think what we're starting to see a lot more is our generation mobilizing when our parents couldn't and now our parents are behind us. north carolina has a chapter in every congressional district in arizona. we're working across america right now. we hope to have possibly a chapter in every state to influence your congressman. >> they're hungry and fighting for change. they just needed that face and the movement to be a part of to join the chapters. they're also inspired and encouraged to join the movement. we were able to give a spark and give them a speak about these things. it's connected across the country and across the globe. >> absolutely. we've just seen the increase in voter registration. you guys are doing incredible work. i have to ask you both, i'm
going to talk about this with you first, barea, it's been discovered that 3d guns in theory could come into the marketplace. the nra has come out with a statement saying politicians and members of the media have wrongly claimed that 3d printing technology will alou for the production and widespread proliferation of undetectable plastic firearms. that's not clear whether the nra is for them or against them. what do you make of 3d printed guns? >> two things, 3d printed guns are merely a distraction. we don't have universal background checks that 97% of the americans support. and time they get 10 to 15% commission off certain arms sale off a very libertarian base. are they going to allow people to go out and make their own guns if they don't make money from that, and say don't do this
because it enables terrorists? >> we took your last word. >> i agree. it's gist a tactic to trip people up and get more weapons out there. and covering it with a band aid. >> one last thing, one thing that manuel oliver joaquin's dad liked to say because it's his birthday, he said joaquin is not a victim, he's an advocate. it's not democrats or republicans. more should listen to their constituents. >> you guys are providing great moral leadership out there. leading all of us. david hogg, brea smith. thank you all that you do. ame. precision machinery and high-quality materials from around the world. nobody else even comes close. now starting at $7.99. gillette. the best a man can get.
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the country's foreign minister says trump is told he'll send cleric for to look back to turkey to want to keep his cool and of being behind an attempted coup in twenty sixth. u.s. television network c.b.s. says he will deny. a severance deal worth one hundred million euros moonves left his job in september amid sexual abuse allegations which he denies the television network says he hasn't cooperated with an investigation into the claims and is officially sacked him. so just have rescued the great mesa fame colombian or . his from kidnap as. theo was abducted over three months ago the kidnappers had been demanding million didn't ransom money.
victoria hall was last seen alive near her home in trimley saint mary, in suffolk. steve wright, who is 66, appeared before ipswich magistrates via video link but did not enter a plea. he's also charged with the attempted kidnap of a 22—year—old woman the previous night. an inquest has opened into the death of zara aleena, who was sexually assaulted and murdered as she walked home two years ago. the 35—year—old was attacked byjordan mcsweeney in east london — just nine days after he was released from prison on licence. he was sentenced to life with a minimum term of 38 years. the number of children moving to home education in the uk is at its highest level since the pandemic. a bbc investigation found that councils received almost 50,000 notifications in the last academic year from families wanting to take their children out of school. the latest government figures suggest mental health is the biggest reason for the rise.
his murder was a sign of the huge security task facing ms sheinbaum. a staggering 11 women and girls are killed every day in mexico and her critics fear she isn't up to the task of tackling the problem. if sheinbaum wins, i think the militarisation will continue increasing, they will keep on having ever more so power. you know, both the military and the narco because they have been together for decades. for now, her supporters are celebrating having made history. but once the party ends, most voters want the president—elect to prioritise drug cartel crime over all other issues in her in—tray. claudia sheinbaum inherits a nation mired in violence. her challenge now will be to succeed where so many men before her have failed. will grant, bbc news, mexico city. a man has appeared in court charged with the murder and kidnap of a 17—year—old girl in 1999.
something he said many families could sympathise with. tom, thanks for that. could sympathise with. tom, thanks for that- tom _ could sympathise with. tom, thanks for that. tom bateman _ could sympathise with. tom, thanks for that. tom bateman live - could sympathise with. tom, thanks for that. tom bateman live in - for that. tom bateman live in wilmington, delaware. a mother has pleaded not guilty to killing herfour sons, who died in a house fire in south london. deveca rose was charged with the manslaughter of leyton and logan hoath, aged three, and kyson and bryson hoath, four. the brothers, who were two sets of twins, died after the fire in sutton in december 2021. a man has appeared in court charged with the murder and kidnap of a 17—year—old girl who vanished on her way from a nighclub near felixstowe in suffolk in 1999. victoria hall was last seen alive near her home in trimley saint mary. steve wright, who is 66, didn't enter a plea. he's also charged with the attempted kidnap of a 22—year—old woman the previous night. chelsea have appointed enzo maresca as their new head coach on a five—year contract. the italian led leicester to the championship title last month during his first season at the club. he replaces mauricio pochettino, who left stamford bridge by mutual consent.
A man admitted to kidnapping a teen from South Carolina he paid to smuggle into the country after she was "rescued from unspeakable horrors," officials said.
Elias Huizar, 40, suspected of killing two women in central Washington and abducting a 1-year-old, was in Oregon on Tuesday with a self-inflicted gunshot wound. Huizar, a former police officer, fled after a fatal shooting at a West Richland elementary school on Monday.
A mother in China who spotted a young girl while visiting a far-off province and decided she was a “perfect wife” for her 27-year-old son, has been jailed along with him for abducting the girl.
midlands during the course of the day. temperatures only around 14 for most of us. in scotland you are exposed to the northerly wind. for the weekend looks like high pressure will arrive eventually. whitening the weather down. that is good news. more sunshine around in the west, i think. temperature is rather cool for the time of year.— let's take a look at today's papers. "brexit blamed as uk drug shortages put lives at risk" — reports the guardian. the paper warns a shortage of medicines for conditions such as epilepsy, type 2 diabetes, and adhd has become "the new normal" in britain. the mirror leads with the death of michael donovan, the man behind a fake kidnap plot involving schoolgirl shannon matthews in 2008. the paper says donovan was still blaming others for his crimes when he died of cancer in prison, aged 56. prince harry has officially