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vladimir putin joking about russian interference with a panel moderated here by our own kiernan from nbc news. dismissing the idea russia had anything to do with the call itself. joining me from tomorrow in moscow, my colleague kieran simmons. i know you're up late/early for us. thank you. i really want to dive into what you learned about where putin is on the ukraine issue, on relations with ukraine, and what it expects the united states to be doing about it. >> chuck, just that sound that you played, the piece that he's joking, kind of half joking. i don't think anyone had the opportunity to put to president putin the specific claim from robert mueller that russia is once again trying to meddle this time in 2020. and he gave him several opportunities to say that russia wouldn't do it and is not doing