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MSNBC Dateline June 4, 2024 04:56:00

Or having his wife killed. >> the cornerstone really of the defenses case is that ira tried to call it off at the end. but that they were threats, if you dont go through with this, harm will come to you. >> thats simply not the case. in fact, after they claimed subject to arrest, they actually hired him to do the other job to beat up the two men. >> and he says nowhere on the tapes or in text messages did ira and kelly say they changed their minds about killing susan. >> even if they did change ...
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MSNBC Dateline January 8, 2022 10:59:00

The way it was. >> im telling the truth now. if im the guy they think i am, then what do i have to lose by telling the truth? i dont have anything to lose. if i really did it, if it would clear my conscience, but i didnt do it. i didnt kill susan. >> for susans family and friends, the case is now closed, but it may never bring closure. after all, nothing can bring back the beautiful headstrong woman they all loved. >> its changed valentines day forever for you and your kids, huh? >> actually we ...
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MSNBC Dateline November 30, 2019 09:26:00

A theatrical plan was in the works. >> this might sound crazy. but maybe we can get a makeup artist to make it look like theyre actually beat up. >> reporter: how did they react to this idea? >> well, i think one of them was like, i got to talk to my wife first, but they agreed. >> reporter: police set up in this parking lot where they had a few of their undercover guys pretend to throw some punches. >> we took a lot of pictures of them beating them up. we had to actually tell the investigators ...
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MSNBC Dateline November 30, 2019 09:56:00

With this harm could come to you. >> thats simply not the case. in fact, after they claimed they were subject to duress, they actually hire him to do the other job, to beat up the two men. >> reporter: and he says nowhere on the tapes or in text messages did ira and kelly say they changed their minds about killing susan. >> even if they did change their mind, they never called the police to tell the police, hey, theres a hit man out there hired to kill susan. they never called susan to say watch...
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MSNBC Dateline September 1, 2019 07:56:00

>> thats simply not the case. in fact, after they claimed they were subject to duress, they actually hire him to do the other job, to beat up the two men. >> reporter: and he says nowhere on the tapes or in text messages did ira and kelly say they changed their minds about killing susan. >> even if they did change their mind, they never called the police to tell the police, hey, theres a hit man out there hired to kill susan. they never called susan to say watch out. they did nothing. >> reporte...
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MSNBC Dateline September 1, 2019 07:26:00

A theatrical plan was in the works. >> this might sound crazy. but maybe we can get a makeup artist to make it look like theyre actually beat up. >> reporter: how did they react to this idea? >> well, i think one of them was like, i got to talk to my wife first, but they agreed. >> reporter: police set up in this parking lot where they had a few of their undercover guys pretend to throw some punches. >> we took a lot of pictures of them beating them up. we had to actually tell the investigators ...
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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190519:06:56:00

That ira tried to call it off at the end, but that there were threats, if you dont go through with this harm could come to you. >> thats simply not the case. in fact, after they claimed they were subject to duress, they actually hire him to do the other job, to beat up the two men. >> reporter: and he says nowhere on the tapes or in text messages did ira and kelly say they changed their minds about killing susan. >> even if they did change their mind, they never called the police to tell the pol...
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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190519:06:26:00

Actors for the day? a theatrical plan was in the works. >> this might sound crazy. but maybe we can get a makeup artist to make it look like theyre actually beat up. >> reporter: how did they react to this idea? >> well, i think one of them was like, i got to talk to my wife first, but they agreed. >> reporter: police set up in this parking lot where they had a few of their undercover guys pretend to throw some punches. >> we took a lot of pictures of them beating them up. we had to actually tel...
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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190127:09:56:00

That ira tried to call it off at the end, but that there were threats, if you dont go through with this harm could come to you. >> thats simply not the case. in fact, after they claimed they were subject to duress, they actually hire him to do the other job, to beat up the two men. >> reporter: and he says nowhere on the tapes or in text messages did ira and kelly say they changed their minds about killing susan. >> even if they did change their mind, they never called the police to tell the pol...
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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20181014:08:26:00

This is where this whole story goes a little bit hollywood? >> yeah. literally. >> reporter: would the investigators be willing to be actors for the day? a theatrical plan was in the works. >> this might sound crazy. but maybe we can get a makeup artist to make it look like theyre actually beat up. >> reporter: how did they react to this idea? >> well, i think one of them was like, i got to talk to my wife first, but they agreed. >> reporter: police set up in this parking lot where they had a fe...
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