pope francis praying in the city of brotherly love. a million people expected to hear his messages throughout the day. but it was this moment earlier today emblematic of pope francis' special touch, a special blessing for this boy in a wheelchair on the tarmac. >> he encourages us all, like rich and poor and everyone to be together as brothers and sisters. >> all right. we're following the pope throughout philadelphia on to independence hall. hello and welcome to our viewers here in the u.s. and around the world, i'm fredericka whitfield. today the city of brotherly love welcomes the pope. his speech on immigrants later on today at independence hall to his evening prayer of service. all of this expected to draw more than 1 million people. cnn is covering his visit, like no other network can. our anderson cooper and christiane amanpour are in philadelphia for the final leg of the pope's historic visit. anderson and christiane. >> yeah, thanks very much, fredericka. it's a pleasure to be here with christiane amanpour. pope francis spends his final full day on american soil in philadelphia. of course, the birthplace of american democracy and independence. his visit marked by extraordinary moments, like this. you can see pope francis there blessing a child at the conclusion of a mass today. and this, members of the seminary welcoming the pope with song. ♪ in just a matter of hours, pope francis delivers a major speech from independence mall. speaking from the same lectern used by president abraham lincoln. incredible touch stone of history. >> it's on to a spectacular outdoor evening prayer service. actually, it's a celebration, basically right behind where we are. that's the main stage there. more than 1 million people are expected to attend. but really, tonight, tomorrow, all throughout this weekend and all they think about 1 million people will have come to see the pope in philadelphia. it is the world meeting of the families. it's an international gathering of the faithful, and it's an event that happens every three years. it was started by pope john paul ii back in 1994. >> and to say that security is tight is an understatement, i've never seen a city kind of locked down as extensively as it is as philadelphia. i came in at 1:00 a.m. last night, and ended up having to get an escort from the national guard just by chance because they sort of took pity on me. it's impossible to get anywhere and it's only gotten tighter since then. i want to check in with our carol costello along the benjamin franklin parkway where thousands are getting ready for tonight's evening prayer. carol? >> i think tens of thousands are here now, anderson. they're expecting 700,000 people at this world families festival sponsored by the vatican. and i shouldn't be talking very loud because as you can see behind me, oh, they're just waking up. they've been sleeping for a few hours. hi, you're on cnn, just waking up. people have been waiting here for hours, anderson. sometimes you just have to take a break and take a nap. i'm here with elizabeth. she came all the way from canada. you've been here for how long now? >> since monday. >> oh, my goodness. so you came to the benjamin franklin parkway when, though? >> about three or four hours. >> i think you're losing track of time now, aren't you? >> yeah. >> i see you have your rosary with you. why did you bring it? >> well, i have a devotion -- we have a devotion to our blessed mother. she's special to us. she's our heavenly mother, we love her. when we pray, we're not praying to her, but we're asking her to be with us and pray with us. >> so when pope francis, you know, drives by in his pope mobile in the motorcade which will be hours from now, how do you think you'll react? >> oh, i think it'll be a moment of joy because he's our kind of like our fatherly figure here on earth guiding his people. we're happy to see him. i think it's going to be a joy-filled time. it's a friendly tone. >> there are people like at baseball games selling peanuts, but not beer. it's a joyous atmosphere here and it's hard to describe the feeling. it's one of hope and happiness. >> a celebration as people wait, don't mind the long wait. independence hall where the pope is going to speak. set the scene for us there, miguel. >> it is an absolute celebration here. i want to show you the picture of independence hall with the thousands of people lining the mall here and then the street along the way. market street where the pope will come down. there is growing anticipation. they've been gathering here for hours. they will wait for, oh, a couple hours more before he actually gets here to hear that speech on religious freedom and immigration. i want to talk to a few people from philadelphia. dan, introduce your family to us. >> hi, i'm dan, this is laura, this is jillian, and this is dan. >> what is it like? you guys are catholics, i assume. what is it like to have the pope come to your city and this event? >> well, it's very special. this is a once in a lifetime moment for everyone who is in this area. the pope has never been to philadelphia, at least in my lifetime here. so it was once in a lifetime moment that we wanted to become a part of. >> it's been a tough time for the catholic church in philadelphia over the last decade or so. does this pope change things? >> yes. everything that he does is symbolic of love and reaching out to people. and i think that's really what the catholic church wants to be about. >> you were quick to agree with that, why do you think he changes things? >> i think that his views on the world have been very embracing. they've been welcome iing of al different parts of the world. trying to be inclusive with people. >> and the one constituency are children. are you guys excited to see this pope? >> yeah! >> are you really? >> yeah! >> why do you like this guy? >> he's such a kind person. >> he's a nice guy. certainly seems to have a sense of humor. are you guys excited to see the pope? how excited are you? it is a celebration. we're having a good time. back to you guys. >> all right, miguel, thanks very much. >> and, of course, we get to miguel and everything at a time when this church is in major transition. it's not just a changing look to the church. changing demographics, changing nature of the family. and that is what the pope is going to be talking about most of this weekend. it's about the world meeting of families. here with john allen, the senior vatican analyst and father. we've been talking about families. and actually talked about it in his homily at church today in the basilica. what is he likely to say when he goes and does the immigration speech? and how much of a challenge is this changing face of american catholicism? >> well, i think we're going to hear more about the family tomorrow. when he addresses, particularly the final mass, the world meeting of families. today's speech is in the theme of religious freedom. this is a meeting in front of independence hall. meeting with immigrants. and the pope is going to come, i think, fairly hard on the issue of the obligation america has to defend its legacy of religious freedom at a time when many religious leaders in the society perceive that legacy to be under attack. i have a column today that i think in my view francis could recalibrate the politics of this issue because it really shouldn't be an ideological thing. there are religious progressives and religious conservatives. they ought to have a great deal of common in terms of defending religious freedom. the flash points tend to skew right. those are all conservative causes. with francis, you have a man who has a great deal of credibility with the political left because of his advocacy of immigration reform, climate change. the perception that he's a maverick shaking up a very deeply traditional institution. and because of all of that, if he lends his personal seal of approval to the freedom clause, which all indications are that's what he's planning to do this afternoon, that could change the dynamic. >> interesting. how could he not? religious freedom is a basic right of america. it's one of the founding principles of this nation. what else could he say? >> but does the freedom really extend to everyone equally is the question? remember, one group is going to be addressing at this gathering are hispanics. the large segment of that congregation today. and while the church has been growing, losing hispanics, losing them to churches, to fundamentalist churches. and why? because they say the catholic church is too structured, too rigid. other churches have bible study, small group discussion, we don't get lost in the crowd. we're losing hispanics and gaining hispanics. so he, the latin american pope. will he also have the francis effect of bringing more hispanics into the fold of the church who feel more included and their incult enincultureati respected. >> you flew from new york with the pope on the plane. someone stumbled up, there were reports about his sciatica. >> we were on the plane, we didn't see the stumble because we board hours before the pope does. but we got alerts of it. he said the only thing that happened is that the pope got a little caught up. in other words, this was not a health issue, simply a moment of clumsiness. his sciatica clearly is bothering him. it's becoming increasingly painful for him to walk. one more day, i'll be fine. >> we saw during the mass today when he was going up steps and down steps. he did have priests on either side helping him. stepping up and down has to be particularly painful when you have a lower back. >> although the stairs aren't the real problem for him. i think the problem is getting up from a seated position, having to stand for long periods and if he has to walk long distances. if you don't knock it downright away, it tends to get worse and worse. and obviously, there's not been a lot of down time on this trip for him to recover. >> he's having some down time right now. he has a full day of events for the rest of the day today and a big day for tomorrow, as well. we'll have more of our coverage continuing from here. right now, back to fredericka. the latest on john boehner's exit. up next, i'll talk with one of his former colleagues to get his take on the resignation and the timing. ♪ is it the insightful strategies and analytical capabilities that make edward jones one of the biggest financial services firms in the country? 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>> on every flight, he goes up into the cockpit. he makes a point of bringing the entire flight through. at one point during the flight, the flight attendants were brought up to greet him and so on. and then he'll always go up into the cockpit. sometimes on the outbound flight he's sending telegrams. when he flies coming here. he has to fly over five or six countries. and they send telegrams to the heads of state. china for the first time ever gave him permission to cross the air space and went up to the cockpit to hit the send button. here you see him just hanging out with the pilots. >> the other thing, john, it's interesting, it's important to fly with the pope because it's on the plane. often when he's leaving a place that he comes back and talks to reporters and makes the most news. >> that's the only time he meets the press in anything we americans would recognize as a news conference. it's on a return flight it's totally spontaneous. francis has done away with all of that. he simply comes back, takes questions. some of the most memorable lines have come from those sessions. who am i to judge was on the flight coming back from brazil. on the flight to the philippines and so on. i often say flying with the pope is in some ways a dismal experience the seats are uncomfortable, the food is mediocre. >> he did say on the plane he wished he could've come from this country. koins b dentally, it all turned out to be great. >> given the people speaking to here. who he's going to be talking to. stuff he said regarding immigration reform at this particular time. >> yeah, actually, what he said, if he had come in through mexico, he would've had to go to guadalupe, and that wasn't logistically possible. >> i wanted to check in with rosa flores who was on the benjamin franklin parkway which is packed with people. a lot of people are excited. >> i'm surrounded by the francis effect. and that is thousands of people excited to celebrate their faith here in philadelphia. let me tell you something, i talked to people from all over the country who traveled, who haven't slept, haven't eaten, because they want the chance to see pope francis. i can only imagine what a trip to see pope francis. >> the second time attending, we were in milan. we are very eager to find out what he's going to say about the family. >> now, they're hear from zimbabwe. and we were just chatting about how pope francis is going to be going to africa in november. and in part of pope francis' theology is to evangelize from the peripheries. to go where nobody else goes. what message do you think is important to deliver in africa given the economics, the politics, the different issues that are happening in africa. >> the focus, the pope is going to address specific issues about africa. political challenges, social challenges. so what the pope is going to focus on africa and probably deliver something. in terms of bringing the human lives for it. >> yes, and if south america, cuba and the united states is any indication, i think that pope francis will definitely have a keen message for the leaders in africa. anderson, christiane? >> no doubt about that. >> no doubt about it. >> we understand, it's the central african republic. the central african republic is in full civil war mode. so it's pretty dangerous, it's pretty brave to go. but further back, isn't africa one of the fastest growing churches? >> it is. africa, asia, or really the fastest growing parts of the catholic church right now. >> yeah. >> he has to be very attentive to those areas. >> we should point out that sister sledge is actually practicing, going to be performing. one of my producers who is incredibly young didn't know who sister sledge was and thought maybe sister sledge was actually a sister. and i had to say, not that kind of a sister. we are family. we're going to take -- we're going to break from here. our coverage is going to continue all throughout the afternoon and the evening. let's go right back now to fredericka whitfield. >> all right. sister sledge, at least three of them are going to be performing. they are from philadelphia. so very fitting that "we are family" is going to be the song. it is the mantra of that family now. thanks so much. we'll check back with you. our continuing coverage of the visit by the pope to philadelphia continues right after this. to create a more advanced vehicle, you use the most innovative technology available. to craft a more luxurious vehicle, you use the most skilled hands on earth. like ones that spend 38 days creating a lexus ls steering wheel. or 2,000 hours calibrating an available mark levinson audio system. the high-tech, handcrafted lexus ls. luxury, uncompromised. this is the pursuit of perfection. you tuck here... you tuck there. if you're a toe tucker... because of toenail fungus, ask your doctor now about prescription kerydin. used daily, kerydin drops may kill the fungus at the site of infection and get to the root of your toe tucking. kerydin may cause irritation at the treated site. most common side effects include skin peeling... ...ingrown toenail, redness, itching, and swelling. tell your doctor if you have any side effect that bothers you or does not go away. stop toe tucking... and get the drop on toenail fungus. ask your doctor today about kerydin. all right a battle royale could be brewing between establishment and tea party republicans after house speaker john boehner's stunning announcement on friday that he'll resign at the end of october following years of contention between the two wings of the republican party. here's how some in the 2016 gop field are reacting. >> every leader has a season. and i appreciate mr. boehner's leadership, and i think he is doing the right thing stepping aside now. >> i think it's time. i mean, it's really time for him. he's -- a lot of problems. we've got to get the country going, and i think it really is time. >> yesterday, john boehner was speaker of the house. y'all come to town and somehow that changes. my only request is can you come more often? >> joining me right now, democratic strategist, and justin, a republican strategist. good to see you all. >> okay, so ouch. coming in from the republican presidential field there. we knew there were many dems who saw boehner as a nemesis. to see now and hear many republicans, clearly the feelings run deep. so what does this say about post boehner? what changes, what might we be witnessing? >> i think there's going to be a huge void in the republican party. he could advocate for the republican party effectively and work with democrats. the problem with the republican party, they've lost cantor and boehner who are two major fundraisers. and the proposed nominee filler is going to be kevin mccarthy who doesn't have that fund raising experience. and is he going to be able to control the far right wing of the party? i think as a leadership change, it's a smart, it's a smart strategy to keep them at bay. but i don't know how long that's going to last. you do need a leader. you can't demand things and shut down the government every time you don't like something. >> do you worry about what's next? or is there relief about what potentially could be next? >> no, i don't worry about what's next. the republican leadership in congress has a deep bench of people that will step up and the republican caucus will have to decide who is going to lead them going forward. and i think it's healthy. look, having people of different opinions, have different philosophies about how we should run the country is fine. but i think the overall arching issue is fiscal restraint when you know what's motivating the tea party, fiscal restraint. and i think that whoever leads the republicans in congress is going to bring that type of philosophy, which is the same philosophy that kicked out nancy pelosi a few years back. >> let's shift gears, talk hillary clinton and the new cnn poll of democratic primary voters in new hampshire showing that she is now trailing bernie sanders, 46-30, a considerable margin there. it is early, but what potentially, i guess, do you see as a real obstacle for hillary clinton? or, perhaps, a real gain for bernie sanders? how do you see it? >> well, in new hampshire, listen, she won new hampshire in 2008, and we look back at that and say, you know, even though bernie sanders is from a neighboring state, that's a problem. i think she's really struggling with millennials right now, which is probably why she went on all these talk shows, and lena dunham. and she's not winning millennial women, which among my friends, i don't know one woman right now who is supporting hillary, and that's kind of shocking, i think. and that's something she's going to have to overcome and it's a big, it's a big feat. >> all right, we'll have to leave it there. thanks so much to both of you. appreciate it. good to see you. all right, coming up, the pope praises women of the church and expresses his gratitude. up next, how the pope's historic visit could change the church's standing among many women. at&t and directv are now one. which means you can watch movies while you're on the move. sitcoms, while you sit on those. and even fargo, in fargo! binge, while you lose weight! and enjoy a good cliffhanger while you hang from a... why am i yelling? 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>> well, i appreciate his change in tone. but we have seen from actions that there's been little change from the predecessors when it comes to role of women in the church. >> do you see him making room? that, perhaps, there is another way in which to incorporate women in authoritative roles or roles that speak to authority there within the catholic church? >> possibly. but currently men and men alone hold all the decision making power in the church. it's very much linked to ordination and women are excluded. the pope himself has said on ordination, that door has been closed for women. and, you know, there's no sight he plans to reopen that door. >> so you're there in philadelphia. you talked to a lot of people. young, some women seasoned. when you look at the pictures today from the basilica and that really exemplify the disparity of men and women in the church, mostly of the leadership role, they were mostly men. so then what are these young ladies telling you about their hopes about how women will be incorporated in more authority within the catholic church? or do they have that hope? >> they do have a hope. and starts with the language the pope uses. i don't think we'll see the ordination of women in my lifetime. but there are other powerful roles they can assume. there's a woman president of catholic charities usa. that's a huge organization. she's in charge of 70,000 employees across the united states. and she told me that it means a lot that she as a woman was named to the spot. she doesn't say because she was a woman, but she says it's a start. and it's a way to see women in power within the catholic world that will make a difference in the long run. >> all right. we'll leave it there. thank you so much, ladies, appreciate that. >> thank you. >> all right. let's talk about others who are being featured with the pope's visit in philadelphia. those who are from there are just so excited that the pope made his way to the city of brotherly love. and that includes the well known disco group sister sledge. ♪ ♪ we are family ♪ i got all my sisters with me ♪ ♪ we are family >> okay. well, we are family. what an appropriate anthem to be aplay today for the world family festival there in philadelphia. joining me right now on the phone after just having sound check there on stage, joni sledge with me. give an idea of how important this is for you and other sister sledge from the philadelphia area to be a part of today's festivities. >> i think it's absolutely wonderful. >> and also people of all walks of life. it is absolutely astounding, seeing the convergence of so many cultures. we're just very excited about all of it. >> explain to me what the atmosphere is like there. have you ever felt anything quite like this? >> i have to say no. not at all. not like this. every year, we've got the parade, all kinds kinds of traditional things. and i'm very happy there's an atmosphere of love that has converged on our city. there's so much cooperation, comradery. and people are smiling, very, very happy. it's a spirit, a sense of unity. i say unity with spirit and the bond of peace has converged on philadelphia. >> and talk to me about what an honor it is to be incorporated in this celebration. how did it come to be? >> well, yeah, comradery? >> how did this come to be? >> oh. >> yeah. >> we're just pinching ourselves as we walk along. i mean, we know this is a door only god could've opened. because it's one that anyone else could've had the opportunity to have and we were chosen to do this. so we don't take it lightly. we're very, very grateful. and to perform this evening in this atmosphere and his holiness is here and the presence of the spirit of god is here. >> yeah. well -- >> it's all around us. >> well, congratulations. because, indeed, what an incredible honor to be a part of a huge celebration like this in your home city. the city of brotherly love, philadelphia. joni sledge, thank you so much. and all the best on your performance this evening with the others sister sledge. all right. and thank you very much, everybody. we have much more coverage of the philadelphia leg of the pope's trip. i'm fredericka whitfield. much more straight ahead after this. everyone needs protein, every day. there are more than 20,000 different proteins in the human body. they fuel our energy, support our metabolism, amplify our performance and recovery. they're essential for good health. your body's best source for protein? 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nice to see you. so, hillary clinton directly apologizing for using a private e-mail server while serving as secretary of state. the democratic front-runner trying a new response to stubborn controversy, bringing the message of regret to ellen degeneres and on facebook overnight, she goes on facebook and apologizes. for the latest let's bring in briana krieler. >> reporter: hillary clinton is still leading in the polls. she's been dipping and bernie sanders and vice president joe biden not even a declared candidate are on the rise. in polls, democratic voters say they actually don't really care about this e-mail controversy but it is killing the clinton's campaign to cut through the message that resonates with voters. so, for the first time after months of resistance, hillary clinton trying to turn the corner on this by very directly apologizing. >> in retrospect, certainly, as i look back at it now, even though it was allowed, i should have used two accounts. one for personal and one for work-related e-mails. that was a mistake. i'm sorry about that. i take responsibility. i'm trying to be as transparent as i possibly can to not only release 55,000 pages of my e-mails, turn over my server, but i'm looking forward to testify in front of congress. >> reporter: that's certainly a big change from what hillary clinton said on monday to the associated press. she said she didn't have anything to apologize for because what she had done at the state department using a private server, using a personal e-mail, was allowed. john and christine. >> yeah, it's a full-court apology press. on facebook, she said, i understand yo may have more questions, this apology will continue with ellen degeneres, hillary clinton apologized for the confusion caused by the e-mails. for the most part you can see here showcased hillary clinton's personal side and seemed to target a key kons tunesy, women. >> it gets a little old. don't get discouraged. don't give in. don't quit. i actually think, i'm not asking people to vote for me because i'm a woman but i think if you vote for someone on matters, one of the merits i'm a woman. >> the interview taped tuesday at rockefeller center. airs thursday. a highly-publicized against the iran nuclear deal. donald trump will be there. he previewed his message in an op-ed posted overnight. calling the agreement bad, poorly constructed. trump wrote it's amateur hour for those striking this deal with iran demonstrating to the world yet again the total incompetence of our president and politicians. >> reporter: good morning, john and christine. donald trump is back on the campaign trail here, right here in washington, d.c. where he's holding a rally to protest the iran deal, plenty of firepower with him, joining him is ted cruz as well as former vice presidential candidate sarah palin, they're expecting a pretty big turnout for that event. he spent most of his time sparring with jeb bush. he criticized bush as a candidate who makes voters fall asleep. calling him low energy. now, bush managed to hit back, he released his own video on instagram and it shows donald trump praising former secretary of state hillary clinton. donald trump gets ready to hold this big rally in washington, d.c. >> thank you so much. kentucky county clerk kim davis, free from jail, but now the open question is, whether it will stay that way, federal judge released davis said he was satisfied her deputies were issuing marriage licenses. >> i want to give god the glory. his people have rallied and you're a strong people. >> many republican presidential candidate are weighing in. mike huckabee stood by her as she greeted supporters and she spoke at that rally. not every candidate endorsed her refusal to issue same-sex marriage license. >> reporter: if someone goes to jail, i'm willing to go in her place. i'm tired of watching people being just harassed because they believe something of their faith. >> i don't agree with the court's decision. but i have said that i was going to accept the court's decision. >> what i would do this to woman is move her to another job. >> not interfere with the effort to issue the licenses or the judge said he would send her back to jail. so far davis says she hasn't said what she plans to do when she returns to work. a group of undecided of democrat senators have come out in favor of the agreement. 42 senators now back the measure. that would be enough to block a republican-led senate vote to overturn that deal. europe's growing migrant crisis now forcing the u.s. and its allies in its fight against isis. the u.s.-led coalition still faces the challenge of reach a con essential does to target isis in syria, targeting isis directly or the president assad. the joint staff some of the u.s. military officials, hackers penetrated part of the met work after a previous attempt failed, officials are investigating whether russian hackers were behind this breach. time for an early start on your money, big rallies in asia overnight, best day in japan in years. japanese stocks up 8%. the biggest one-day gain in eight years. a good day on wall street yesterday. the dow surged 390 points. second biggest gain in a year. tech stockses led that rally. speaking of tech, today is the big day for apple. the internet ripe with rumors about apple's next big reveal. new versions of iphone 6 and 6s. the biggest surprise could be a larger ipad. a size between the current ipad and the macbook, ceo tim cook said inventory. all right, now the moment you have all been waiting for, stephen colbert's debut on the late show. fans seemed to like it before he said anything, they greeted him with a standing ovation. he began his first network monologue with his comedy central character. with hello nation. >> if i knew you were going to do that i would have come out here months ago. thank you for joining me for the first episode of the late show starring stephen colbert. i am he. you're all witnessing tv history. and like most history it's not on the history channel. i'm so excited to be righere ri now. >> colbert's guests included george clooney. in addition to mr. clooney, jeb bush who was asked about his campaign slogan, which actually doesn't include his last name, bush. >> i have been using jeb since 1994. >> yes. >> it connotes excitement. it connotes -- >> jeb! how many of us got excited we yelled jeb! >> out of happiness or deep anger. >> the premiere episode wrapped with the new late-show band. >> my producer was in line, they were giving this out in line, cold brew, always refreshing. highest quality cold brew. he said he was really relaxed and had a good time. >> congratulations to him. >> we showed that clip. he knows that after nine months of one quality hour of television f he has nine months to prepare one night of quality television he'll be ovable to d it over and over again. british airways plane catches fires. passengers share their stories next. deep wrinkles look 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cabin. still terrifying. no word on what caused the fire. city officials in baltimore are expected to approve a settlement with the family of freddie gray, the city accepts all civil responsibility in the arrest and death of freddie gray back in april. this proposed settlement doesn't acknowledge any wrongdoing by baltimore police, six officers will be criminally tried separately in connection with gray's death. three suspects are still at large in illinois. following near 200 leads. at a news conference, officials said his gun was found at the scene. i was talking to authorities there friday, they said they were on the verge of a breakthrough based on a surveillance video. that's not the case. the heat wave is about to end. let's get to the meteorologist. >> look at the temperatures from tuesday. record temps shattering some records that have been standing for 94 years. 20 degrees above the normal. much of this september, a september to remember, the temperature trend generally into the 90s, should be in the 70s. good news as we do have a front that's cruising across the midwest, sparking some showers and thunderstorms around missouri, northern arkansas, with it, cooler air gets here some time later this week. we kind of really set this cool pattern at least for a little bit friday into saturday. look at the trend. 90 to 78. you have been dropping below average. how quickly things change by 72 degrees by week's end. your high temps, today still staying pretty toasty. 94 in washington, d.c. >> 90 in new york. >> it hasn't rain since 1987. my lawn has no hope all right, 18 minutes past the hour, thousands of migrants pouring into europe, government split over what to do, the european union meeting right now. major speech what the priorities of europe should be as this crisis unfolds. live team coverage, next. right now european leaders meeting in france to deal with this spreading migrant crisis. migrants breaking through police line at camps. some of the children running right out of their shoes. carrying their children on their shoulders for miles. thousands of these people now making their way on to trains bound for austria. hungarian lis are now longer checking for visas. the crisis now straining turkey. cnn has ever angle of this developing story covered. starting with fred pleitgen. they have been spreading this alarm, they're planning for years of dislocated, desperate people either for economic reasons for persecution reasons and for survival trying to get to safe haif in europe. >> reporter: yeah, you're absolutely right. they're planning for a major crisis of immigrants coming here to europe, that's going to last for a very long time. the big problem the european union has it's absolutely divided on this issue. of course, we see the amount of people who are in absolute misery coming to europe, they have been in hungary and vienna and austria, thousands of people pouring here into the european union and the head of the european commission just held a very important speech. he said, listen, the response europe is giving is absolutely inadequate. he said europe isn't acting as europeans. . the big problem that they have the countries higher in europe are divided. on one hand, germany are taking in a lot of refugees. on the other hand, countries like hungary and many eastern european countries who don't want to take in more migrants .what the head of the european commission he gave a speech where he said europe needs to do both. on the one hand, they need to distribute the refugees more fairly among the countries. not only country like germany taking in migrants. they have to do more to patrol their boarders. the immigration in the long run is more clear and is more controlled than it has in the past. the speech that he gave is one that you's very important. christ i'm, are the european leaders going to be able to come together and implement a common policy moving forward to try to alleviate some of the suffering that's going on for the people fleeing those wars in syria and iraq as well. >> fred, it's amazing the speed in which the germans have been able to accept new people, resettle them and get there on track to refugee status at least. fred, really interesting stuff. thank you, fred. >> it's a huge regional problem across europe, into turkey as well, syrian refugees overwhelming one port city. they're hoping to embark on what could be a dangerous boat ride to greece. ivan watson live in turkey, ivan, good morning. >> reporter: europeans concerned about the flood of migrants crossing their boarders, they better get ready because the smuggling business here in turkey is booming. the boats are leaving from the coast of turkey to islands, to a greek island, they're leading in board daylight. this smuggling operation is sophisticated and brazen. 30 people piling on these pontoon boats. what we saw in turkish port city, sidewalks and cafes jammed with syrians. as you mentioned, they're carrying their backpacks with belongings and plastic bags of freshly purchased life jackets that are on sale in cafes, even, advertised in arabic. the syrian refugees we talked to they're paying about $13000 for passage from syria and they're flying in a day prior from syria. the capital of da maus kus with the purpose of getting to countries like greece and germany. this is happening under the eyes of turkish police, right next to syrians, piling on to private buses to head for coastal villages. the greeks say islands are receiving from 1,000 to 3,000 new refugees and migrants a day. this is problem that is not going away. john? >> up 3,000 a day. on an infran structure that's already strained in greece. whole economy growing up around smuggling and getting people. it's just a dangerous situation. hillary clinton said she's sorry after months of defending her use of e-mail as secretary of state, now she's sorry, why the change? the conversation about that e-mail server. we'll tell you 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questions and i'm going to work to keep answering them. she talked to abc news and ellen degeneres. for the latest let's bring in briana kreilar. >> hillary clinton is still leading in the polls. but the trend lines are troubling for her campaign. she's been dipping and bernie sanders and vice president have been on the rise. particularly of concern these early states of new hampshire and iowa. in polls democratic voters say they actually don't really care about this e-mail controversy. but it's killing the clinton's campaign with the ability to cut through the message that resonates with voters. so, for the first time after months of resistance, hillary clinton trying to turn the corner on this by very directly apologizing. >> in retrospect, certainly, as i look back at it now, even though it was allowed, i should have used two accounts. one for personal and one for work-related e-mails. that was a mistake. i'm sorry about that. i take responsibility. and i'm trying to be as transparent as i possibly cannot only release 55,000 pages of my e-mails, turn over my server but i looking forward, finally, to testify before congress, something i have been asking for nearly a year. >> that's certainly a big change from what hillary clinton said on monday to the associated press. she said she didn't have anything to apologize for because what she had done at the state department using a private server, using a personal e-mail was allowed. john and christ i'm. >> brianna, thank you. on the ellen degeneres show hillary clinton apologized, quote for the use of the private e-mail server. for the most part, the interviewed showcase clinton's personal side and emphasized appeal and her message to women. >> i think it's just a reality that we're held to a high, different, double standard. it gets a little old to be honest. but you just forge ahead. all of these beautiful young women who are here, don't get discouraged, don't give up, don't quit. >> yes. >> i actually think, look, i'm not asking people to vote for me because i'm a woman. but i think if you vote for someone on their merits. one of my merits is i'm a woman. >> yes, yes. >> that's a really interesting sophisticated message there. one of my merits is that i'm a woman. she's basically saying, you know, look at that. look at me. i'm a woman, vote for me. >> the interview was taped tuesday at rockefeller center. it airs thursday on the ellen degeneres show. a big day planned in washington, highly-publicized rally against the iran nuclear deal. the rally so big donald trump will be there, other candidates past and present as well, he previewed his message in an op-ed posted overnight on "usa today." trump writes it was amateur hour for those charged with striking this deal with iran, demonstrating to the world, yet again, the total incompetence of our president and politicians. a trump presidency will force the iranians back to the bargaining table to make a much better deal. >> reporter: good morning, john and christine. donald trump is back on campaign trail right here in washington d.c. where he's holding a rally to postpone the iran nuclear deal. he'll have plenty of firepower with him. they're expecting a pretty big turnout for that event. most of yesterday, donald trump spent his time sparring with jeb bush. trump released a video on instagram criticizing jeb bush, saying that voters fall asleep. jeb bush hit back, it shows donald trump praising former secretary of state hillary clinton saying she would be a great person to negotiate a good deal with iran. back to you. >> all right, thank you. jeb bush laying out his tax plan, the republican presidential candidate said he will lower the tax rate. he also wants to place a one-time tax on corporate profits. he says all this could lead to 4% economic growth for the u.s. let's check the markets quickly, asian markets soared overnight. the big one-day gain for the nikkei since 2008. european shares, u.s. stock futures jumping after a good day on wall street yesterday. the dow adding 390 points for the second-best gain of the year. the nasdaq and s&p also up 2%. kentucky county clerk kim davis is free but it's an open question whether she will stay that way, a federal judge released davis from jail, saying he was satisfied that her deputies were issuing marriage licenses to gay couples as he ordered. davis spoke to a cheering crowd after her release. >> i just want to give god the glory, his people have rallied. and you are a strong people! >> many republican presidential candidates are weighing in on the controversy. ted cruz was there. mike huckabee there as well. standing by kim davis as she spoke. not e every candidate endorsed the refusal to issue same-sex marriage license. >> reporter: if someone goes to jail i'm willing to go in her place and i mean that. because i'm tired of watching people being just harassed because they believe something of their faith. >> i don't agree with the court's 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dealing with right now. i was in hungary and austria over the past couple of years. there was an uninterrupted flow of people coming in. over the last weekend alone, well over 20,000 refugees that made their way through those countries and ultimately want to come right here to germany, what the european union, the big problem is it has no common policy and at that meeting today, the head of the european commission said, listen, right now the european union is failing. he said europe isn't acting as europeans. the big problem that they have the countries in europe are divided. on one hand, germany are taking in a lot of refugees. they want the refugees to be distributed to all of the other countries as well. on the other hand, countries are very reluctant to take in more refugees, like hungary and many eastern european countries, they see this more of a border control issue. what the head of the european commission he gave a speech where he said europe needs to do both. we have to have a quota to distribute them to all european countries. we need to make sure in the long term, the flow of migrants to the european continent will be controlled and at least they can stay on top of things. the big question now is, are they going to come some sort common agreement and to some sort of common policy they can implement to control immigration? the people who are trying to come here to europe are not put in danger because they can't find safe ways to get here. >> fred, in berlin, thank you so much. now the turkey, refugees overwhelming one port city. carrying backpacks of their belongi belongings. hoping to embark on what could be a very dangerous boat ride to greece. our coverage continues with ivan watson. ivan, what's the scene there? all right, we lost his microphone. gosh, from one country to another, different reactions to the migrant crisis, different speeds in which they're trying to resettle people and harrowing, dangerous pictures -- >> like this right here. >> trying to get to europe. >> ivan is standing in turkey where people are being smuggled across the water to greek islands. the island is being flooded with up to 3,000 refugees, migrants, every day. the island can barely handle it. what ivan has been seeing is smuggling operation. >> i think we have ivan's microphone right now. what's the scene there? desperate circumstances for so many people. >> all right, we'll get this worked out with ivan watson soon. >> we'll be right back. let's get an early start on your money this morning, asian markets, big, big gains. japan, up 8%. big one-day gain in eight years. the dow surged 390. the second-biggest gain for the year. the s&p and nasdaq up more than 2% as tech stocks led the rally. lot of bargain hunting out there yesterday, people picking up stocks on the cheap. the ceo and two other executives of united airlines out. announced in the wake of an internal investigation. the governor has been examining its deals with the new york port 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>> the thing that hurts the most for this story and for the campaign is when you continue to get in decremental new information. like today, we find out the person that took the fifth took the fifth because he didn't want to talk about the arrangement, that the clintons paid a state department i.t. professional to maintain the accounts. you hear get all the facts out. get everything out so there are no new surprises, no new information so it looks like you're withholding things. that's the problem, thomas. we thought we had a very exhaustive interview between andrea mitchell is and hillary clinton and the next day there is a new piece of information about the e-mail server. i think if they are going to get around this, they need ma make sure they get everything out. >> chuck todd, thanks very much. be sure to watch the interview with colin powell tomorrow morning on "meet the press". overseas, a dramatic journey today for thousands of refugees escaping their war-torn homes in search of a better life. late word from junior man police that 4,300 people have arrived at munich train station tonight. thousands more are behind them in austria and as far south as greece. we get the latest from nbc's bill neely. >> reporter: they made it. cheered by german crowds, the my grants's long march is over. from war in syria to freedom in germany. and food. they reached western europe in torrential rain but celebrating. >> now we are free. >> reporter: running across the border into austria, 6,000 of them after days trapped in hungary. hungary's government tried to put them in camps, wouldn't let them leave for days. then under pressure, bust them out of the country. they were exhausted after weeks on the road. finally tonight, tasting victory. but in greece, they keep coming. so far europe has proved completely incapable of solving the my grant problem. it can't cope with those who have already come and can't stop these people arriving. this boat load, one teenager collapsing, afraid she had drown at sea. they left everything behind. mohammad couldn't pay smugglers enough to take his five children. >> now we need to go to germany. >> reporter: tasnin fled after her home was bombed. >> whether you're in the war or not. junior you just have to get out? >> exactly. >> reporter: they start a 40-mile walk to chaos. refugees desperate to keep moving. greek police trying to stop them from boarding ships from this island to the mainland, firing tear gas. it is a picture of europe's failure to cope with this crisis. some refugees stuck here for a week. >> no food. no toilet. no water. >> reporter: but escaped war. one 5-year-old beginning his new life. the other celebrating the end of a road in germany. back in this country, a salmonella outbreak spread to two dozen states, killing one, and leaving hundreds sick, mostly children. the cause, health officials say cucumbers grown in mexico and distributed by a california company are making people sick. hallie jackson has the latest. >> reporter: the bacteria more commonly associated with raw meat or eggs now linked to cucumbers in a salmonella outbreak affecting 285 people. one person has died, 53 others hospitalized. more than half the illnesses reported in children, who are especially vulnerable. symptoms could diarrhea, vomiting, fever. the cd traced them back to their suspected source, a farm in mexico. the produce distributed by a san diego-based company, which is voluntarily recalling what are called slicer cucumbers. they have a thicker skin and more seeds than a common english cue coupler. in arizona, where 60 cases have been reported, health officials recommend asking your grocery store where they buy the cue couplers. >> if they came from the united states or locally in arizona, they are safe. if you don't know where they are from, you should throw them away. >> reporter: cthe bacteria sickens a million people in the u.s. every year. to kill it, experts recommend cooking foods thorghly. while that's not something many do with cucumbers, washing them and other produce could minimize risk, keeping people safe and healthy. hallie jackson, nbc, washington. supporters of a county clerk jailed chanted her name today and encouraged others to pray for her release. lawyers for kim davis compared her to a civil rights leader. others say civil rights is exactly what she violated. a federal judge jailed davis as willful disobedient. sarah dollof has our report. >> reporter: outside the detention center hundreds praised the controversial stance the county clerk has taken, choosing jail over issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples. >> do you think kim davis is doing the right thing? >> i do. she's honoring god's word. >> reporter: bagpipes paying patriotic music. >> we pray it becomes a movement that spreads throughout this nation. >> reporter: and he led the proud in prayer. >> god is going to continue to bless davis. >> she said for everybody to hold their heads-up high. she has her head held high. the only one who show bow their head is when they are bowing to god. >> it was found odd separation of church and state. to deny someone a civil right based on religious tenet is not acceptable to me. >> reporter: not all christians are on the same side. >> seeing people on a street corner shouting at others who don't see or feel the same way they do doesn't really connect with what i read in the bible about love. >> a pastor at a local church made of main line protestants. >> we support kim davis's right to believe homosexuality is is sinful and people should not be able to get married as same-sex couples. what we don't support is her right to impose that right on others through the power of her office. >> reporter: the county clerk is now preparing for a third night behind bars. some relief now, welcomed relief for tens of millions of americans hitting the road this holiday weekend. gas prices are at their lowest in more than a decade. it's adding up. americans will save a million dollars by the time the barbecue is over monday evening. kerry sanders hit the road and has our report tonight. >> reporter: if you're among those in traffic this labor day weekend, then you already know gas prices have not been this low since 2004. >> it's a whole lot better for everybody. gas prices are cheap. >> reporter: the national average is now $2.41 with the lowest in sbg outh carolina averaging 1.99. the 35 million motorists will save $1 billion when compared to last year when on average gas cost a dollar more a gallon. why the price drop? thank china's slowing economy. >> it's just old-fashion said supply and demand. there is ample oil supply. >> to give some context on how cheap a gallon of gas is today, in the early 1970s, some stations sold a gallon for 33 cents. in some parts you could have it for $1.85. if you add for inflation, some are paying less today than they did back then >> we found four friends on u.s. 27 in the florida everglades. they made a 16-hour spur of the moment drive from maherville, tennessee, just to pose with an alligator at holiday park. and then take an air boat ride. >> we wanted a vacation so we got in the car and went. >> 900 miles. and the price of the gas didn't even cost much. >> reporter: friends told robert to buy a subcompact. instead he bought a pickup and a suburban. >> i'm laughing at them for buying such a small vehicle. >> reporter: racking up the miles and the savings on this last blast before summer ends. kerry sanders, nbc news, miami. had "nightly news" continues on this saturday, a rare climb up the iconic sequoias of california. plus, why these of california. plus, why these west point cadets wer rheumatoid arthritis like me... and you're talking to a rheumatologist about a biologic, this is humira. this is humira helping to relieve my pain and protect my joints from further damage. this is humira helping me reach for more. doctors have been prescribing humira for more than 10 years. humira works for many adults. it targets and helps to block a specific source of inflammation that contrubutes to ra symptoms. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal huminfections and cancers,ity including lymphoma,, have happened, as have blood, liver and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure. before treatment, get tested for tb. tell your doctor if you've been to areas where certain fungal infections are common, and if you've had tb, hepatitis b, are prone to infections, or have flu-like symptoms or sores. don't start humira if you have an infection. talk to your doctor and visit humira.com this is humira at work. hello. if i want to go up... if i want to go down... nooo... but, then if i want to come back again... yes. it's perfect. and there you have it. 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>> well, look, i've said many times, the way you communicate and tone is very important. sometimes it's not what you say, it's how you say it. i think all of our moms have told us that. look, they all account for their own mouths and their own words. if you go back to 2012, it wasn't anything another candidate said, whether it be the 47% or whether it be, you know, self-deportation, it was the nominee's words that came back into play. look, i think at the end of the day, each kabd is going to be accountable for their own words and their own mouth and so they should proceed with caution. >> i can't recall a presidential race where the frontrunner was throwing and receiving so many elbows just this morning, governor george pataki released a statement in which he's saying he's refusing to support donald trump if he's the republican nominee. this comes on the heels of an interview in which louisiana governor bobby jindal repeatedly refused to pledge to support trump. you got the republican candidates to sign these loyalty pledges. are you concerned at all? >> no, i'm not concerned. er candidate in all these campaigns are going to do whatever they need to do in order to benefit their own campaigns. i suspect there will be a lot more things happening. they're all going to have an opportunity on wednesday. you're going to be in the middle of it, jake. one of the undiscussed issues is controlling the debate and making sure that everyone has an ability to speak. probably be more elbows thrown at that debate and you're going to have your hands full. i suspect it will be a great night and a great opportunity for those campaigns to make their voices more heard. >> reporter: reince priebus right there, they will do what they need to do. sounds ominous. with me right now, anna navarro, a friend to marco rubio. van jones here with me as well, former advisor to president obama. guys, i want to talk about one of the things that's different about this debate. this one is here at this beautiful reagan presidential library. it will take place right in front of air force one, the very plane that ronald reagan used to fly around the country when he was president. but the audience will be about 500 people, inside in this somewhat digfied setting. the first debate, anna, you were there. it was where the cleveland cavaliers play. >> i'm still getting overlap bron james having left miami. >> could that affect the debate. >> i think it's going to be a huge difference. there was something like 6,000 people at the cleveland debate. frankly, that audience was the 11th member on that stage. because they participated, they booed, they clapped, they were loud. the candidates fed off of them and they fed off the candidates. i had to get up at one point and literally go by myself some popcorn because i couldn't sit there watching this movie without the coke and popcorn. this is a very different venue, much less crowd participation. not only that, but it's ronald reagan's house. the 11th commandment for republicans. you shall not speak ill of any other republican. i think you're going to hear 11 beam competing, who knew reagan better, who reagan would love better. i think you're going to hear a lot of reagan invoked. >> i think the 11th commandment, that went out the door a long time ago. just because there's not a raw kus crowd, doesn't mean there won't be extreme attention. sometimes when there are fewer people yelling and cheering, you can almost see the bile shot out of the eyes of some of these candidates to each other. >> this will be literally the opposite of what we saw before. whether you love reagan or you don't, i'm definitely more on the critical side -- >> lightning is going to strike you at any moment if you say that in front of the ronald reagan library. >> that feeling, this does have the sense of kind of a conservative sacred ground. we don't know how that's going to play out. i don't think it's going to stop some of the more desperate candidates from trying to do something to get in. i do think it will create a different type of a dynamic. i hope it brings out more substance. right now we're only been talking about the zingers. >> i think it's going to be less ruckus, but it's going to be more intense. >> i think it will be more intense in a way because of the smallness. let's talk about substance. can you help yourself if you're one of these other candidates, the non-trump candidates right now, by substance, by going out there and pitching your tax plan or talking about foreign policy? is that going to make a difference right now? >> i think they have to do it. really, there is a different standard to the other -- donald. durp can get away with being a performance artist and really kind of bluffing the substance. none of the others can. there's different expectations. we have seen for example donald trump flip-flop on so many issues and it hasn't hurt him one bit. it has hurt scott walker tremendously. we are seeing that the scrutiny level on the nonpolitician is very different than other the other folks. >> van, can they risk substance here? >> if i were trying to advise one of these candidates, i think it would be baffling. you have to be substantive, but at the same time, you have to be entertaining. trump has created an environment that everybody has to meet the usual standards and a new standard of being enter takener. >> let me play the role of a trump supporters. he brought up an issue, immigration. it's now a substantial part of this discussion. he talked about tax policy. taxi taxing hedge fund guys. now jeb bush has a plan out. is he not introducing some of the substance that is being debated here? >> i think he's introducing it and i think -- first, immigration had been talked about. i would see and hear immigration questions be asked at every town hall, even before donald trump was on the stage. he brought it to a different dimension and light. frankly, the rhetoric has become very negative and much more heated. i think he is introducing some issues. and driving the debate. now, he's doing it with -- without the policy, though. he's not giving you the details. >> you can raise issues -- if you talk as much as he does and tweet as much as he does, there's the point i made that was substantive, but the whole wall is shot up with buck shot and up insult comedy. see, i hope that the republicans get tarred with this. i think it's worse than that. i think the whole political class is getting tarred with something and getting pulled down to a level that i think is not good for the country. i hope that begins to change on wednesday. >> great to have you here with us. be sure to tune in and turn on your tvs. do it all. the second republican debate is right here on cnn and online as well wednesday night starting at 6:00 p.m. eastern, 8:00 p.m. the main stage. it will be something. >> it will. all right. thanks, john. kentucky county clerk kim davis goes back to work tomorrow. if she doesn't grant marriage licenses to same-sex couples, she could be behind bars again. my exclusive interview with her attorney next. not being on this phone call sounds good. it's not muted. was that you jason? 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>> according to the suspects, there was about ten. two of them were right off the freeway. >> the two reported incidents happened within ten minutes of each other. the one on els worth road and about ten minutes letter in maricopa county's jurisdiction. >> just last night or part of the last two weeks? >> last night, according to them. >> these suspects involved in any of the other incidents that either are included in the freeway shooting investigation or -- >> no, sir. >> did they tell you at all why they were doing this? >> i have not spoken personally to investigators. sheriff, i don't know if you have information on why they said why they were doing it. >> not really. they admitted doing it. the first guy, very interesting that the vehicle that he was sleeping, the 18-year-old, was sleeping in the car. that was his domicile for a while when all this was going on. so evidently he probably has some domestic problems too. >> with the shootings that involved the bullets, do you have a theory as to whether those happened from the side of the interstate or someone was in a car doing those? >> i don't have the liberty to discuss that at this time sir. anyway, i think that's about all we have to add. if you need information, i suggest you get with the pi of the jurisdictions. i think the one with the most will be the commissioner of public safety. thank you all for coming on a sunday afternoon to talk about this. continue to report crimes. we have a $20,000 reward. somebody out there knows something and i need to know what they know. thank you. >> all right. just a brief update there on the shootings that have taken place on the phoenix, arizona, highways there over a course of weeks now. still unclear. we did hear a portion of that that there were two vehicles that seemed to have within shot at last night and there may have been some arrests made. still unclear whether that is connected to the string of shootings that have taken place on i-10 in the phoenix area. kentucky county clerk kim davis returns to work tomorrow, but will she do her job? i just spoke with davis' attorney, matthew staver. he says davis is undecided if she will obey the court and allow her deputies to issue those licenses. she spent five days in jail for contempt of court after refusing to issue licenses to same-sex couples. the attorney says no one should have to choose between their job and faith, but he also proposed a compromise that may satisfy both the law and her religious standards. >> i don't know exactly what she will do on monday morning. that is kim's ultimate decision. she is aware of the court ruling and she's aware of her job duties. but she's also obviously a person of strong conviction and strong conscience. we'll find out what kim will do when she goes to work on monday. she is asking for something very simple. that is just accommodate her by removing her name and title off of these certificates. kind of like what you have already with some of the other licenses in kentucky. they're issued not under the name or the authority of the local clerk of a particular county, but under the authority of the commonwealth of kentucky. if the licenses were changed to do that, she could process them, give them out, file them in records just like she does other documents. >> so you're saying if her name is not on the licenses and if she's -- she has that promise that her name is not on the licenses, tomorrow she will administer the licenses? >> that's right. if her name and her title -- if it's kim davis or clerk of row wand county, it's the same individuals. >> why should that accommodation will made? she's an elected public servant. she has to help uphold the law and honor the law. >> because in this situation, you've got the kentucky religious freedom restoration act, you've got other laws in kentucky that also protect her rimg freedom -- >> but the u.s. supreme court ruling supersedes any state or other jurisdictional laws or statutes. >> but not on the issue of religious free exercise. that was not before the court and in fact there's going to be a lot of cases like kim davis in both the public and private sector that no doubt will make its way back to the court so we can look at -- in light of this 5-4 ruling in june, how do you accommodate people of faith like kim davis. >> is this less about religious freedom and more about the momentum that kim davis has received, particularly when you have presidential candidates throwing their support for her cause, for her jailing? >> in, it's not about that at all. you talk to kim davis, she's a humble woman. she's private. she's a quiet individual. she never wanted to be in this position. in a heartbeat, she would go back to her quiet, tranquil life that she's done in this job and community for the beginning of her life in that county. she doesn't want to be thrust in the spotlight. the last place she wants to be is have this very, very difficult decision. that is choose your job or choose your faith. choose your conscience or choose your -- >> but didn't she know what came with the job when she put her into the position to be elected into that position as county clerk? >> no. when she was elected same-sex marriage wasn't on the agenda there. >> so one of my legal analysts reminded this audience, federal law says as a public servant if you don't want to comply, you must step aside. as long as it's part of your public duty, you act on behalf of the public, not on behalf of yourself. that according to joey jackson yesterday. so tomorrow when kim davis goes to work and same-sex couples come to the office and want a marriage license, whether her name is on them or not, will she administer those licenses? >> well, we're still talking with kim davis and she's still making decisions. it's a difficult situation that she doesn't want to be involved in and a difficult situation she would rather never have had happen. there would be a reasonable way for this to simply satisfy everyone. and we hope still that the governor and the legislature and the court will ultimately resolve that in a way that's satisfactory. this is a broader debate that we're going to see across the country. we don't need to have someone like kim davis in this situation. so you think she's not alone you're saying? do you worry about potential conflict tomorrow when she reports to work? >> certainly, i do worry about that. i -- we spent a lot of time with kim. and she's an amazing individual. she is someone who loves people, she loves god. she doesn't want to be in this situation. we're concerned about the future. >> all right. matthew staver, thanks for your time. >> thank you. my pleasure. >> all right. wildfires raging in california are forcing thousands of people from their homes. they're also exploding incise. the danger they're posing next. chronic plaque psoriasis e made a simple trip to the grocery store anything but simple. so finally, i had an important conversation with my dermatologist about humira. he explained that humira works inside my body to target and help block a specific source of inflammation that contributes to my symptoms. in clinical trials, most adults saw 75% skin clearance. and the majority were clear or almost clear in just 4 months. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened; as have blood, liver, and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure. before treatment, get tested for tb. tell your doctor if you've been to areas where certain fungal infections are common, and if you've had tb, hepatitis b, are prone to infections, or have flu-like symptoms or sores. don't start humira if you have an infection. ask your dermatologist about humira. because with humira clearer skin is possible. choose, choose, choose. but at bedtime? 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>> it's all happening here, fredricka. we're just three days away now from the big debate right here at the reagan presidential library. you can see how beautiful it is all around me. the candidates face off on wednesday night. the top candidates take the stage at 8:00 p.m. the second tier begins at 6:00 p.m. the remaining four candidates will be then. it is all worth watching because this really could be make or break for so many of them. what a place this is. that's the vantage point from the sky here. ronald reagan buried here, facing west, facing the pacific. this is the land that he loved so very much. here with me to talk about the comings and goings and the big event, our executive editor of political coverage. i want to look at where the polls are right now. the latest poll, all donald trump, 32%. ben carson up in second place now. the rest of the candidates in single digits. for a lot of them, not even high single digits. let's talk about scott walker right now. he was the leader at one point. certainly the leader in iowa for many, many months. listen to what he said on "state of the union" about what some consider to be the faltering state of his campaign. >> the bottom line is, we get around the state. we're going through our 30th koebt of 99. when people hear our story how we have a plan to wreak havoc on washington. we've actually been tested. we're convinced in the state where caucuses are the name of the game, we've got the time to make the grass roots connections and get that message out. >> he's talking about time. does scott walker, mark, have the time he thinks he has? rick perry dropped out of the race tonight. we've been on tv now for two and a half hours. i haven't mentioned scott walker's name yet. the talk about jeb bush, carly fiorina, ben carson. is wednesday night make or break? >> i wouldn't say it's make or break, but it's certainly really important for the sense that he needs a moment. think about this of a race between a tortoise and a hair. a lot of people think donald trump will potentially fall. who will be the middle of the pack. i think scott walker needs a moment not necessarily to attack donald trump, but he needs a moment that conservatives will say, i like this guy. >> who do you think the stakes are highest for here? >> i think scott walker is one of them. there's no doubt about that. i also think that if you are a rand paul or a chris christie or a marco rubio, you've got to breakthrough in a way right now. you've got to show why you still belong in the conversation. i would put a lot of pressure on sort of the christie and rand paul, they're going to be on either end of the stage. i think this is a turning point in the campaign. we are two weeks away from the end of the fundraising quarter. if you don't look like you're in this for the long haul, your donors and supporters are going to start looking elsewhere. >> the last time chris christie and rand paul fought with each other. you think it was a breakthrough moment for them. i think any moment without donald trump maybe hurting yourself. carly fiorina was not on the main stage in the first debate. will be on stage in the cnn debate. she's been a big focus of this campaign. donald trump has been talking about her. talking about her face. today, carly fiorina was out and she talked about what she may be looking at as she heads into this debate. >> donald trump is an entertainer. and so he says things that are entertaining. the truth is, voters don't ever really ask me about him. because they actually are concerned about the state of the nation. >> you know, donald trump is an entertainer. but carly fiorina herself was entertaining. she is on the main stage this time because of her performance in the first debate. it's a lesson to all these other candidates, i think. >> i do think it's a lesson. and she really had a great debate. if you look at any winners that came out of the first debate. carly fiorina because she showed leadership. i think that when these candidates take the debate stage, a lot of people say, perhaps they could win, they'll score points if they take an donald trump. that's not necessarily true. they got to convince the american public that they are a forceful leader. >> also fueling the candidacy is the fact that donald trump has a strategy. he is doing things that are helping him. monday night, he's going to dallas talking to a packed crowd in dallas. he'll have pictures for days this week heading up to this debate of people yelling and screaming for donald trump. he's going to release a tax plan in a few weeks. it may not have as many lines as jeb bush but donald trump can point to it and say, hey, that's my plan. >> he's been pointing it to it nonstop. before he put out his plan for immigration, every question to him was about immigration. he'll do the same thing on taxes. you'll also see him, though, he himself calls himself the counter-puncher. he's been trying to step back a little bit from starting fights with folks and he is just there to hit back when they hit him. >> does that work forever? 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the answer is yes. right here at the honld reagan presidential library. the republican debate wednesday night. as this moment gets closer, these candidates are working hard. they're trying to get their message out. they were on the sunday talk shows this morning doing it as well, making their case why they think they deserve to be the republican nominee. this is what they had to say. >> well, i'm a deal maker. ben can't do that. he's a doctor. he's not a deal maker. i'll make great deals for our country. >> my life is multi-faceted. growing up having multiple jobs experiencing social economic level in our country, spending multiple years in corporate america. you know, it's -- you get an enormous amount of experience doing those things. >> you can stand up and be strong and still find a way to work together and compromise. they care more about being on shows like this and spouting off things. >> actually want someone who can get the job done. remember, barack obama has never run anything in government before and we see what a lousy president he's been in terms of actually running things. i've run things. i've actually got things done. if you want someone who will fight and win. not just win three elections in four years in a blue state like we did, but win and get results, then i'm the candidate. >> so much at stake for these candidates this week here. that is all for me for today from california. you can watch all the dramatic moments of the republican faceoff right here on cnn wednesday night, back-to-back debates, 6:00 p.m., 8:00 p.m. eastern time. i will be here all week. >> i'm excited for you. we all know that it's unpredictable. we have no idea what is going to be said. i think everyone can agree the goal for all of these candidates is simply going to be to stand out, whether they say something good or bad, right? 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thousands lined the sidewalks of new york today for a chance to see pope francis as he rolled by in the pope-mobile. but no one wanted to see him more than the parents of this ailing child. they were moved to tears when the pope gave the child his blessing. they're among nearly 20,000 people at madison square garden tonight, where the pope is celebrating mass. and remember this image of the pope yesterday with a very emotional john boehner? it has proven to be prophetic. today, the catholic speaker of the house, the highest ranking republican in the nation, announced that, after praying about it, he is resigning at the end of next month in the middle of his third term as speaker. here's congressional correspondent nancy cordes. >> i decided, you know, today's the day i'm going to do this, as simple as that. >> reporter: boehner's decision stunned official washington, from the president... >> i just heard the news as i was coming out of the meeting here. so it took me by surprise. >> reporter: ...to democratic leader nancy pelosi ... >> it's seismic for the house. >> reporter: ...to boehner's fellow republicans, like wisconsin's paul ryan. >> reporter: sir, are you going to run for speaker? >> i am not. >> reporter: why not? >> because i don't want to be speaker. >> reporter: it's easy to see why. >> god bless you, speaker boehner. ( cheers and applause ) >> reporter: boehner got worn down by four years of fight with his right flank. do you think this is worth shutting the government down over? >> i think this is worth fighting over obamacare, which the american people reject. >> reporter: they dug in their heels on the debt ceiling, obamacare, and funding for planned parenthood. when boehner said those fights were unwinnable, he became the enemy. here's how conservative activists reacted today when senator marco rubio broke the news. >> just a few minutes ago, speaker boehner announced he will be resigning. ( cheers and applause ) >> reporter: since july, a couple dozen conservatives have been pushing for another vote to unseat boehner, and the contempt is mutual. you used word like "knuckle heads" and probably some other word we can't use on television. >> probably. >> reporter: had you just had enough? >> i would not describe it as having had enough. that's not it at all. when you're the speaker of the house, your number one responsibility is to the institution, and having a vote like this in the institution, i don't think is very healthy. >> reporter: but won't the next speaker face the same thing? >> hopefully not. >> reporter: the uncertainty worries some republicans, like new york's peter king. >> i feel bad for the party that the crazies have taken over. >> reporter: it could help explain why boehner was so emotional when he met the pope yesterday. >> the pope puts his arm around me and kind of pulls me to him and says, "please, pray for me." well, who am i to pray for the pope? but i did. >> reporter: conservative groups declared victory today, saying boehner stood in the way of their principles and practiced the "art of surrender." but the early favorite to replace him, scott, is his chief lieutenant, house majority leader kevin mccarthy. >> pelley: nancy, thanks. and that takes us to john dickerson, our cbs news political director and anchor of "face the nation." john, who is kevin mccarthy? >> reporter: well, kevin mccarthy is the house majority leader. he's from bakersfield, california. he was elected in 2006. he's one of the people a lot of folks i've talked to today are mentioning. he's not as conservative as john boehner, but he does have the number two spot, which means he has a lot of relationships, which gives him the strongest start in the race to replace boehner. >> pelley: and if mccarthy is elected by the membership, what will change? >> reporter: well, maybe not that much. to get elected, he's going to need support from that conservative bloc that john boehner was having trouble with. the next speaker faces basically the same challenge, whether it's mccarthy or anyone else, from the conservative bloc who wants the speaker to be more assertive. and if that speaker isn't more assertive, they won't support him which means we may be back in the same place in six months. says one boehner ally, "we'll be right back here in the same place," scott. >> pelley: john dickerson. thanks, john. and john will have the only live interview with speaker boehner. that is this sunday on "face the nation." marco rubio, who you saw in nancy's report, was speaking today at the conservative "values voters" summit. donald trump, his rival for the republican presidential nomination, said this about rubio. >> you have this clown, marco rubio-- i've been so nice to him. i've been so nice. i've been so nice. >> pelley: the multibillionaire front-runner is harsh on his critics, and we asked him about that for 60 minutes. why so thin-skinned? >> i don't like lies. i don't mind a bad story. if you did a bad story on me for "60 minutes," if it were a fair story, i wouldn't be thin- skinned at all. you know, some of the media is among the worst people i've ever met. and i mean, a pretty good percentage is really a terrible group of people. they write lies. they write false stories. they know they're false. it makes no difference. and, frankly, i don't call it thin-skinned. i'm angry. >> pelley: but a reporter asked you a couple of hard questions at the first debate, and the whole week after that it's war on that reporter. >> well, i don't think that was a fair question. >> pelley: an impression is created, though, that you like to dish it out but you can't take a punch. >> oh, i think i can take it. i can take it if it's fair. again, if people say things that are false-- which happens a lot with me-- if people say things that are false, i will fight like harder than anybody. if i do something wrong-- and that happens-- and they write a fair story that i did something wrong, there's nothing to fight about. i can handle that. i'm a very honorable guy. i don't like lies. >> pelley: on "60 minutes" this sunday, donald trump will talk to us about his tax plan, immigration, and replacing obamacare. and russian president vladimir putin will sit down with charlie rose. it's the 48th season premiere of "60 minutes." we learned today that the obama administration has discovered a chain of e-mails that hillary clinton did not turn over to the state department. they're messages that she exchanged with general petraeus when he was the head of central command. clinton has said that she turned over all of her work-related emails that were housed in her private account. one of the highlights of the pope's visit to new york today was his visit to the national september 11 memorial. he placed a flower at one of the two waterfalls where the names of the nearly 3,000 victims are etched in bronze. right now, the pope is celebrating mass at madison square garden, and chip reid is there. chip. >> reporter: that's right, scott. he is inside the arena, and the mass has begun. some of those 20,000 faithful inside waited almost all day in line just to get in. this is the last event in what has been a very long day for pope francis. some of the day's most powerful moments came during the pope's visit to the 9/11 memorial, where he prayed at the reflecting pools where the world trade center towers once stood. he met with families of those who lost their lives that day more than 14 years ago. one woman showed francis a memento, which he then blessed. inside the museum, francis solemnly viewed artifacts from ground zero, including a bible found in the debris, opened to the passage "an eye for an eye." >> bring your peace... >> reporter: the pope also spoke at an interfaith service with leaders of other religions, including an imam and rabbi to remember the victims and honor the survivors. "the family members show us their face of pain," he said, "pain that leaves us speechless but that screams to heaven." following his remarks, children with the young people's chorus of new york city sang a well- known song of hope. >> ♪ let there be peace on earth ♪ "a hope that makes us see," he "a hope that makes us see," he said, "even in the midst of smog the presence of god." saturday morning, the pope will fly to philadelphia, where on sunday, he will celebrate a mass that's expected to attract more than a million people. scott. >> pelley: chip reid reporting tonight. chip, thank you. the pope follows the words of jesus, "let the little children come to me." in east harlem, a catholic school there, kids were bursting with pride as they told francis what they were studying, and they taught him how to use a smart board-- or at least they tried to. they sang to francis as well, to his absolute delight. ♪ ♪ then, it was time for a one-man parade, and elaine quijano has that. elaine. >> reporter: well, scott, well before dawn, hundreds of people began lining up just to see the pope, and when he finally arrived here in central park, that moment for them was electric. central park roared as an estimated 80,000 people cheered pope francis. people of all ages and backgrounds clamored to get a glimpse of the people's pope, including mustafa al hainy. >> i could feel him, that he's going to do something for the whole world. >> reporter: most in the crowd were catholic, but al hainy is a devout muslim who came to today's event because of the pope's mission to help the poor. he was penniless himself when he came to this country 36 years ago. >> he's just a great pope. it makes me cry sometimes when i see him because he just kind of is the man i admire the most. >> reporter: he and his wife, olga, who is catholic, were deeply moved by the pope's visit. >> when he speaks, we don't feel like he speaks only to one faith. we feel like he speaks to all of us. >> reporter: scott, afterwards, we spoke with many people who say they understand fully now why pope francis is considered the "people's pope." >> pelley: the pope began his day admonishing world leaders at the year's largest gathering of heads of state, the u.n. general assembly, and margaret brennan was there. >> reporter: after a warm greeting from world leaders and dignitaries, pope francis scolded them for an explosion of global violence, particularly in the middle east and africa, conflicts he has likened to world war iii. speaking in his native spanish, francis said the resulting flood of refugees was "a grave summons for world leaders to examine their consciences." 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>> reporter: but in spite of that, or maybe because of that, adam has taken on a most unlikely role here-- football running back. >> it's crazy, but it's true. >> reporter: what made you think you could do it? >> nothing ever told me i couldn't. >> reporter: adam weighs in at about 100 pounds, with the helmet. most of the other guys are at least two times that size, and yet, each and every one of them looks up to adam. >> he blows away your initial expectations. >> works harder than a lot of people. >> reporter: that's what everybody is saying. >> you have heard about the little dog with the big-dog heart, like a chiuaua. he doesn't care who is bigger than him. >> reporter: adam works out every day like he's getting ready for the pro bowl, even though when he joined varsity, he knew he might never get in a single game. he's fourth string but completely unfazed by it. >> just care for what you do and love what you do, and the outcome will be remarkable. >> reporter: which lead us to remarkable. last week, with 20 seconds to go in the game and heritage well ahead, coach mike rumph gave the nod to number two, adam reed. coach told adam to take a dive before he got tackled, and adam completely ignored him. >> he'll get to the second level. he'll get out to the 40-yard line. >> no, i think his idea changed as soon as he got the ball... he was trying to run through tackles and get to the end zone. >> reporter: coach rumph says he wasn't surprised. here it is again. as you can see, adam picked up five yards on the play-- not quite the touchdown he was hoping for, but still everything he dreamed of. >> i don't feel like i'm out of the ordinary. i just feel like part of the team. and that's how everyone should feel. >> reporter: who needs altitude when you've got his kind of attitude? steve hartman, "on the road," in plantation, florida. >> pelley: and that's the cbs evening news for tonight. for all of us at cbs news all around the world, i'm scott pelley. and i'll see you sunday on "60 minutes." good night. captioning sponsored by cbs captioned by media access group at wgbh access.wgbh.org a shutdown affecting some of the bay area's most vulnerable. >> a bay area family went to seattle to see the sights and ended up in a deadly wreck. new at 6:00 they are talking about the terrifying moments. >> and crossing the bay on two wheels. we test out the water bike. good evening, i'm allen martin. >> i'm veronica de la cruz. we begin with breaking news. chopper 5 right now on the way to burlingame. where a caltrain struck a car. this happened 15 minutes ago at the broadway crossing. we are told the train was headed northbound. this is chopper 5 headed to the scene. we have no word on the condition of that driver or how the crash is impact traffic around that area. again as soon as we get more details in, we'll go ahead and keep you posted. money and time are running out. a center has been open since 1812 but as kpix 5's emily turner tells us, local leaders and families of the patients are coming up with a plan to keep it open. >> reporter: susan's life is about to change. >> completely. she has trouble with curves and strangers so the closure of her long-term care facility is a change her brother worries she can't handle. >> it keeps me up at night. i cry when i'm driving, i visit the cemetery and i tell my parents i'm going to do everything i can to make sure susan is safe and protected. >> reporter: the center is being shut down because the federal government will no longer fund it. that means susan and almost 400 other
we're told that will be combing an area of 900 square nautical miles around the area where these villagers reported the plane has gone. the search and rescue officials will be working on the assumption that the plane has indeed crashed looking for debris and burning wood. what the villagers were not able to tell officials is if there were any sign of survivors. that will be on the foremost of people's minds, certainly the families of the people on board. >> oh, my goodness. so what are the obstacles. we are talking about a mountainous region. what kind of equipment do they have to conduct these searches or even carry out recovery efforts? >> reporter: very mountainous region. we're told about 12,000 feet above sea level. very rugged terrain. it's small aircraft that usually operate in this area. that's the very reason that people take these internal flights between cities because it is often so impassable. a lot of areas you just can't get to by road. so a lot of these small aircraft will operate in these areas. some planes have gone down in the past and the wreckage has never been found. we know there are six aircraft that are going to be sent out and hoping they can find any sign of this aircraft. >> all right. thank you so much. now to the intense battle raging in the northwest. firefighters are trying to beat back a series of wildfires in three states. residents in idaho, washington state and california have been forced to evacuate and at least 50 homes in idaho alone have now been destroyed. cnn's nick valencia with me with more on all of this. this is a tough blaze for all of these states to battle. >> pacific northwest, especially hard hit. evacuations are just really a lot of evacuations. 1,500 people in washington state. also the acreage is growing. just yesterday, idaho, the fire there they're trying to contain, 265,000 acres. today, more than 20,000 acres more burned. against a majestic mountainous backdrop, the flames range, forcing evacuations. >> i was literally outrunning flames at 60 miles per hour. that whole ridge was on fire. this whole hillside was on fire last night. it was nuts. >> matthew anderson watched as dozens of fires swallowed the hillside. at least 100 structures have burned. power is knocked out for most of the 9,000 residents in the area. >> there's i don't know how many hundreds of people affected here, the other side. >> just to the south, in canyon creek, oregon, a lightning fire has left more than 20 homes burned with at least 34,000 acres lost and still limited containment. dean fox says the fight to save what's left has been exhausting. >> we have to keep hosing ourself down because it was so hot. >> this fire season has been devastating, especially in the west where already more than 6.5 million acres have burned. that's about the size of new hampshire. >> it's just devastation for these people. >> idaho has been among the hardest hit. this ranch otherwise of boise, charred and caked from ash from the soda fire. containment is just at 25%. >> ripping up this hillside. >> in drought-stricken california, the fires are out of control. fueled by high heat and wind, the cabin fire has devoured 1,400 acres. hundreds of firefighters have worked for days to stop it, ten of them have been injured in the process. >> and it could be a very tough week ahead, especially in california and washington. it's supposed to be especially hot in that washington area. of course the last four years in california, the drought has contributed to what we're now seeing there. >> how strapped are resources? >> we're talking 700 firefighters and they're bringing in all throughout the state. so they are very strapped for resources. great point. >> thanks so much. we're going to talk more about this. laura roose is with us. her family escaped the wildfire in washington. your parents' home was actually destroyed. tell us what happened and how your family was able to get out? >> well, it started in the morning. we watched it and then the wind changed in the afternoon. and we had our vehicles packed. and the firefighters came. and we had to leave. the fire came down the canyon, both sides of the canyon, up and around. and we waited you know five minutes longer, we probably would have not gotten out. it would have covered the road getting out. >> in some cases there were lightning strikes that sparked some of the fires. is that your understanding about what happened in the area of your family home? >> yes. multiple lightning strikes all over the cheyenne area. >> oh, my goodness. it seemed to move very quickly. thank goodness you were able to get out with your lives. you mentioned you were all gathering things and firefighters came and said it's time to get out. is there an estimate you could give me on how quickly this fire seemed to be fueled and make its way to your home? >> oh, the winds were kicking up 35, 40 miles per hour. we saw it come down the canyon and we said, oh, got to go, got to go. by the time we each got into our car, my dad is a stroke survivor. we had to escort him into his car. he did not want to leave the house. he was too confused. we said, time to go, dad. firemen all came down and physically put him in his car. by the time we drove down the road, it -- it was in the pasture, in the yard, it was all over and that was it. the whole place is basically melted. >> that had to be so frightening as you were driving out and seeing the flames licking at your property. what did that feel like? how -- you know, how in danger, how fearful did you feel? >> oh, it was like no other feeling that you ever have. i mean, it's a fight for your life. you know, and at that point, you just want to save your life. and material possessions are just -- just material possessions. and now it's just like a moon scape. all the trees, every tree is just nothing but black. everything melted. all the metal just melted. everything is gone. it's -- it's -- there are no words to describe the fear because you can feel the heat and the wind. and the flames, it's -- the flames were just like all over. and you're just driving down the road and you look back in the rear-view mirror and where you just got done driving is in flames. >> incredible. i'm so glad you and the family got out safely. so sorry for your material losses. thank you so much for joining us. our hopes and prayers for you and the family on the days forward. thanks so much. all right. still ahead, overseas, kim jong-un is at it again. north korea issuing a direct threat against the united states over planned military exercises. we'll break it down next. as my diabetes changed, it got harder to control my blood sugar. today, i'm asking about levemir®. vo: levemir® is an injectable insulin that can give you blood sugar control for up to 24 hours. and levemir® helps lower your a1c. levemir® lasts 42 days without refrigeration. that's 50% longer than lantus®, which lasts 28 days. levemir® comes in flextouch, the latest in insulin pen technology from novo nordisk. levemir® is a long-acting insulin used to control high blood sugar in adults and children with diabetes and is not recommended to treat diabetic ketoacidosis. do not use levemir® if you are allergic to any of its ingredients. the most common side effect is low blood sugar, which may cause symptoms such as sweating, shakiness, confusion, and headache. severe low blood sugar can be serious and life-threatening. ask your doctor about alcohol use, operating machinery, or driving. other possible side effects include injection site reactions. tell your doctor about all medicines you take and all of your medical conditions. check your blood sugar. your insulin dose should not be changed without asking your doctor. get medical help right away if you have trouble breathing, sweating, extreme drowsiness, swelling of your face, tongue, or throat, dizziness, or confusion. today's the day to ask about levemir® flextouch. covered by most health insurance and medicare plans. she'll use that educationing to get a job. she'll use that job to buy a home. this is lilly baker. her mom just refinanced their home and is putting an extra $312 a month toward lilly's tuition. lilly is about to take over the world. who's with her? 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>> because he's still not very solidified in terms of his power base. he's in the process of that. so it's very important for him to gather his followers and make sure they are absolutely loyal to him. for that, it is so important for him to maintain credibility among the militaries especially on his side. so this is domestic climate the country has changed tremendously. we have to pay attention to that. >> so what would, in your view, would kim jong-un feel that he would gain if he were to carry out any of the threats? because it's a country already in isolation and carrying through with a threat against the u.s. or neighbor of japan would get him what? >> it's not really historical c -- his calculation. he feels he has nothing more to lose. all the sanctions that we can consider have been applied. and he thinks, you know, almost suicide kind of mentality running there, him and among his followers. so those people who have some different pragmatic ideas, they're not speaking out, they're not going to do anything underground or anything. there is no such thing as underground in north korean politics. so this time, we have to pay attention. put our resources, our wisdom together. analyze it psychologically the north korean inclinations. it's not unlikely that north korea may be more provocative in the next few days. >> professor, thank you so much, appreciate your point of view. >> thank you. all right, still ahead, hillary clinton spending time in martha's vineyard with president obama. jim acosta joining us live there. >> reporter: hi, that's right. they spent a bit of time last night here on martha's vineyard. the real attraction here was president obama out on the golf course with former president bill clinton. do you think they talked about hillary clinton's campaign for president? 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joining me right now is jim acos acosta. are they spilling the beans? are they telling you anything about what they're chatting about on the greens? >> reporter: they're keeping those conversations as secret as their golf scores. that's right. here in martha's vineyard. no leaks at this point from the links. i think you have to expect that president clinton and president obama were talking politics, were talking a little shop out on the golf course yesterday. we have no confirmation of that. that i have had these rare opportunities over the last several years to have these conversations from time to time. hillary clinton did drop in late yesterday for a party last night here on martha's vineyard. that was a big affair here on the island. vernon jordan turned 80 years old. hillary clinton was there. valley jarrett was there. there was a whole slew of people inside from obama world and clinton world there. you know, this is a very different dynamic inside these two worlds when you compare to what we saw last year. last year, hillary clinton gave that interview to the atlantic magazine when she criticized some of the president's foreign policy when the president and his foreign policy team used to use the phrase "don't do stupid stuff" talking about not getting involved in middle eastern wars. that was taken as some criticism. they had to hug it out at that jordan party a year ago. you don't really sense any overt tension between these two camps right now. there are so many obama people working inside hillary clinton's campaign right now, it's almost as if she is inheriting the obama mantle going into this campaign. there are people inside the white house who say that hillary clinton is seen as somebody who will expand and protect president obama's legacy. i imagine there were some conversations swirling about all of those topics. but no -- no leaks from the golf course or from the dinner last night on any of that. >> to be a fly on the wall huh? >> reporter: that's right. >> maybe next time they'll allow you. you ask and you never know. >> well, as hillary clinton is on the vineyard, the chatter is ramping up over whether joe biden will also jump into the race. the south carolina post and courier in fact stepped up the pressure with an editorial encouraging biden to run saying, run joe biden, run. wow. and biden's advisors are telling him he needs to make a decision by october 1st. so what's it going to be? joining me is political strategist brian morgan stesh. good to see you again. okay. well, subtle, the post and courier is not. brian, do you think this is something that joe biden is seriously considering? you know that maybe he might meet an october 1st deadline and i wonder what that conversation was like on the golf course between the clintons and obama. >> it's hard to believe it didn't come up, right? it must have. regard -- first of all, i think that joe biden is obviously very interested. this is a guy who's wanted to be president for many, many decades. the october 1st deadline is for among other reasons, fundraising and organizationally, and being able to get on the ballot. it takes forever. it's very expensive. he can't dither forever. he's going to have to do it fairly soon in order to be on ballots. >> oh, my gosh, you just heard jim acosta where he said a number of people working for the obama campaign are now working for hillary clinton. speak to the whole loyalty conflict if joe biden were to jump in. i would imagine a lot of folks from the obama white house may be wanting to work for joe biden. >> up until now, that was the only viable place for obama staffers to go. if uncle joe is jumping in, that changes a lot of things. jim made another point. there really is a clinton world and an obama world and the relationships between the two principles, very complicated. obama certainly prepared to support hillary for president. if joe were running, he might be a better carrier of that legacy. >> haven't we heard out loud obama throwing his support behind hillary clinton for president? >> we assume if she's the one. >> i think that kind of deafening silence, this is just me now trying to play political analyst. it makes me wonder if whether he too is waiting for a joe biden then he will be torn, who does he best support. >> well, it's an interesting question. to the point of whether obama sort of really, you know, gotten behind hillary, he did do that sort of, you know, really softball interview with her when she was leaving her position as secretary of state. he said things like i know she would make a great candidate. you're right in that the endorsement hasn't been full-throated. a month or two months is a lifetime in politics. look at what she's facing right now. an fbi investigation, tremendous trust gap in her poll numbers. a gap in really the number of people who think that she cares about people like them. remember, president obama won largely because he was really great in that category you know in sort of identifying with voters on a personal level. she's not so great at that. guess who's better at that than her? joe biden. few people are better at that than anybody than joe biden. >> the corpse is not exactly cold yet. she's still 30 points ahead in most of the polls. >> oh, my gosh. >> she was 30 points up in the polls against barack obama in october. we're only in august. in october last time around she was 30 points up and still lost. it is an open field if he wants to get in there. >> we talked about the post and courier not being that subtle. this is what they said in the op- op-ed, democrats who want to keep the white house aren't just worried about mrs. clinton's ability to do so. they see no electable alternative despite the big crowds flocking to see senator sanders. the paper is going deep, is it not, you know, ellis, in trying to analyze the landscape and the real viability of the democratic field? >> well, i think we know who one endorsement in the south carolina primary will go toward if it comes to that. you got to think about the hardball political calculations here. black voters, lgbt voters, those might be the core. the real core is democrats who still love obama. and there's a lot of them. if they look at joe biden and say he's a better messenger than hillary is, the guy's got a pretty good running start, i think. >> we'll leave it there. thanks so much guys. always lots of fun. >> good to see you. and more seriously, parts of a plane that went missing in indonesia have been found. but the recovery search has been suspended. we'll tell you why next. there are two cages in this room. the one on your right is made out of high strength steel and the other is made of aluminum. now i'm gonna release a 700 pound grizzly bear. so pick a cage and get in it. well i'm glad i picked this cage. why did you pick the steel cage? 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>> it's a good question, but it's really too early to tell. witness testimony is often very speculative in nature and can be very skreetchy. that's the worst part of the investigation to be involved with witnesses and what they saw. if indeed there was smoke and fire or the absence thereof, all it could necessarily mean is there was a limited amount of fuel on board the aircraft. and we're dealing with very mountainous terrain. foilage may have hid some of the smolderi smoldering. at this point, we don't know the airplane has crashed, we'll just assume that. at this point, it's way too early to say what we might be finding. >> villagers reported they said they actually saw it crash. richard, i wonder, there are a couple of different investigations going on here, right? they have to investigate whether it indeed did crash into a mountain. but they're also very concerned if there are any survivors, if there are people to rescue, they've got to get to them. how do they prioritize these issues? >> it's very simple. it's a different between an annex 12 and an annex 13 investigation. annex 13 is the investigation that looks at what happened and how to prevent it from happening again. whereas number 12 looks at making sure you get to the people. there's rules about getting to the rescue scene to see if there's anybody still alive. it's a different between search and rescue which is what they are doing at the moment, versus search and recovery where you're looking to recover the remains and the wreckage. at the moment the priority without any shadow of doubt is first of all to see are there any survivors. only after you can be pretty certain there are not do you move to the next stage which is the retrieve l of the black boxes. >> when you hear some of the numbers, that the plane was 27 years old, that the airline itself has had a number of incidents over a fairly short period of time, since 1992, does any of that strike you as particularly significant when you talk about a plane that's missing? >> well, the incidents that richard had gone over, that's very troubling to me. that says something that there's a training issue, pilots are not -- don't have enough experience. that is very troubling to me. the fact that the airplane's 27 years old, listen, if they maintain an airplane appropriately, we in the states, we have a thing called progressive maintenance. i have a general aviation airplane built in 1973. it's still very airworthy airplane. 27 years doesn't really set it back. what it says to me, though, about this particular airline, and richard and i were doing some research together on this, they are older airplanes. it says they that purchased them probably at a good price. they lease them at a good price. they are operating older equipment. in aviation terms, it's almost like dog years. >> all right. thanks so much, gentlemen, appreciate it. coming up, a marriage showdown in kentucky where a court clerk is refusing to give out any marriage licenses because she does not believe in same-sex marriage. i brto get us moving.tein i'm new ensure active high protein. i help you recharge with nutritious energy and strength. i'll take that. yeeeeeah! new ensure active high protein. 16 grams of protein and 23 vitamins and minerals. ensure. take life in. so you think this chip is nothing to worry about? 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>> you would not. >> a recently retired federal air marshal says that threat is just the beginning. on board a federal aircraft, they must respond at a moment's notice to any threat. right now, she says, some air marshals are falling apart. >> they're exhausted. they're having memory loss. they're being forgetful. they can't move. they can't respond fast to things. and the agency was not prepared for someone to document as well as harvard did in their study. >> reporter: this is that study. it's from 2012. tsa commissioned it, got the results, and had it classified as sensitive security information. cnn obtained a copy of the report and the results are disturbing. 75% of air marshals flying on domestic missions were sleep deficient. on international runs, the figure rose to more than 84%. in a job where it's critical to be alert and accurate, the study finds the acute and chronic lack of sleep degrades a federal air marshal's ability to react and think quickly. the study conducted by the division of sleep medicine in harvard medical school found half of federal air marshals take some medication or supplement to get to sleep. others commented they turn to alcohol. federal air marshals responded to survey questions saying, most of the sleep patterns i have are broken. this is not healthy. i need to take sleep aids. alcoholic drinks mixed with sleeping pills. one air marshal in response to a question asking if he consumed five or six drinks per week said, eight to 12 per night on an overnighter. the study says it is likely a significant proportion of air marshals suffer from undiagnosed sleep disorders and puts them at increased risk of self-injury, higher rates of fatigue motor vehicle accidents and greater incidence of error. our interview request was turned down. instead, the tsa issued this statement saying it is committed to providing air marshals with the resources and support they and any loss of life is unacceptable. the statement goes onto say that the air marshal service maintains a robust system of both medical including mandatory physicals and psychological assistance programs red readily available to the workforce and their families. >> the director said his officers helped with on board medical emergencies and unruly passengers, but nothing about stopping a terrorist. the air marshals tell us they are misused insisting the idea of putting terror cops was on planes was a knee-jerk reaction after 9/11 and has proven to be a poor use of their time and americans' tax dollars. thanks so much for spending your day with me. the next hour of the newsroom begins right now with poppy harlow. hi, everyone. 5:00 eastern, 2:00 pacific this sunday. we begin with what appears to be a tragedy overseas. search efforts will resume this hour for commercial airliner that crashed in the mountains. 54 people were on board. and it happened this morning on an island in the indonesian province of papua. villagers say they saw the plane hit the side of a mountain. it was a twin engine turbo prop on a short flight. the wreckage is believed to be deep in remote mountainous terrain with peaks reaching as high as 13,000 feet. kathie novak is tracking this for us. when i woke up to the news this morning, i thought, another incident in this region. this is at least the third commercial airplane to go missing in asia in the past 18 months. what's the airline saying? >> reporter: well, this airline is one of dozens out of
see? >> so our plane landed. we were coming from denver to las vegas. right after we pulled off the active runway, the plane came to an abrupt stop. looked out the right-hand side and all we saw was big, black flames and a plane on fire really. >> had you -- had you heard anything? >> no, we did not hear anything. most of my attention was drawn by a lot of the passengers gasping at the sight, obviously. so that was the first indicator that something was happening outside the plane. >> and just to be clear, you were on this plane, right? or did you see another plane on the runway? >> no, i was -- i was on the -- another plane that was on the runway and then we saw the plane on fire. >> okay. about how far away was it, and how long did it -- how big was the fire? >> i mean it was roughly probably 200 to 300 yards away. we could clearly see very large flames as the picture shows coming out of the left engine. obviously black smoke was engulfing the area. and then it was then when we saw the doors fly open and the inflatable slides come out. >> and when the inflatable slides came out, were there any emergency responders already on the scene or was the fire still active and people just started to get out? >> no, that was very surprising. obviously we knew something was wrong, and we weren't sure if the plane was empty or not. it was then when the slides inflated where we knew people were onboard. so after the people started exiting the plane coming down the slide and they were running very fast away from the plane and the emergency responders, i have to give them credit, they came very quickly into the scene and were spraying fire pretty much before the vehicles were stopped -- i'm sorry, spraying water before the vehicles were stopped. >> when something like this is happening, what happened to your aircraft? did it continue to go by or did it stop? >> no, we were completely stopped. i imagine that's for obvious reasons, to let the emergency vehicles get to the plane in trouble. so all the planes around us were completely at a standstill. >> how long did the fire seem to go on for? >> from the time we landed until the time the emergency responders put it out was probably i'd say 5 to 10 minutes. >> and all during that time people were getting off the plane. was it relatively orderly? >> it was a mass exodus, if you will. there was a lot of people running away from the plane. it seemed like there were -- it was a big spurt of people and then the -- and then the responders came. >> bradley, i appreciate you telling us what you saw. thank you so much. >> thank you very much. >> as you might imagine, we are learning more about this by the minute. we've got cnn's dan simon on the phone from mccarran international airport in las vegas. also with us cnn aviation correspondent renee marsh. renee, what is the latest you're hearing? >> well, anderson, i've been on the phone with the ntsb and we know at this point they are gathering information. they have not determined whether they will be launching to this site as yet, but you have to think that whether it's the ntsb or the faa, investigators will be on the scene to determine exactly what caused this. i can tell you that, you know, seeing smoke or a small fire in an engine, we've seen that before, but it is extremely rare to see something of this magnitude happening there. so of course investigators are going to want to know exactly what caused this. a couple of things they'll be looking into, the possibility that perhaps the enginin gested something or was it a mechanical failure of the engine. we know that these were ge engines on this aircraft, very good engines. we looked back and haven't seen anything, any red flags as far as any prior major problems with these specific type of engines. but again, that scene that you're looking at there, something that you do not see very often, anderson. >> that's for sure. dan, what's it like there on the ground right now? i understand you just saw two people being loaded into ambulances. >> reporter: right. first of all, anderson, i can tell you that the airport is operating. there are people going through security, checking in for their flights and most of the runways from what i understand, three of the four runways are open. but i can tell you that just in the few minutes that we've been here, we have seen two people being loaded onto ambulances. they appear to be shaken up more than anything else. but according to the friend of one of the victims, this particular woman we saw suffered some smoke inhalation and she looked like she was in distress, to be perfectly honest. she looked like she was very shaken up in terms of how this all unfolded. we saw a second person, this appeared to be a young man. according to his mother, he had some kind of friction burn while going down the inflatable slide. and there are still several ambulances out on the departure curb, several paramedics here. i don't know if that's just precautionary or there are more victims who are going to be let out, anderson. >> two was the number we had been told at the top of the last hour, both described with minor injuries. i'm not sure if that's the two that you saw actually being taken out. renee, one of them according to dan had some smoke inhalation or exposure to smoke. that is one of the questions that remains, how much smoke actually got into the aircraft itself, into the main cabin. i talked to les abend earlier and said the pilots do have the capabilities to shut down any vents that would allow smoke into the cabin. that is something that they would have to take the time to do so we don't know how much smoke actually got into the cabin. this aircraft, though, the 777, renee, what do we know about its safety record? >> we do know that it is a very safe plane. to that point, anderson, not only are pilots able to shut down the vents, we know that the pilots also have access to fire extinguishers. we also know that flight attendants are trained to get these people off of the plane within just seconds. oftentimes when you do see those injuries, it's because those individuals are coming down the slide, so a lot of times that's where the injuries stem from. but as far as the safety record with this 777, a very safe aircraft. we know with this particular aircraft, it was built in 1998. again, those engines, ge engines. when you look at all of these things on paper, you don't see any major issues sticking out and that's why, of course, this will most likely pique the interest of investigators, because they're going to want to know what caused these images that we're looking at on our screen here where you have this black, billowing smoke and this relatively hefty fire break out just seconds before this plane is set to take off. it really is a mystery at this hour. but again, no indication that this aircraft had any major issues nor the engines. anderson. >> renee marsh, i appreciate the upda update. dan simon as well. joining us now is les abend, a working 777 captain, also cnn safety analyst and former faa investigator david soucie who is joining us as well. david, just in terms of the investigation, who does it now, ntsb, faa? what is the procedure here? >> typically the faa people that are on site are those that will respond first, but it won't be a delegated accident. the ntsb will investigate it because there was potential and because there was injuries and it was an intended flight so that goes into the ntsb 800 series regulations. so it is an ntsb investigation. >> and, les, you and i spoke as i mentioned in the last hour. when you see this much smoke coming from an aircraft, how much can you prevent that smoke from getting in the cabin? >> well, the initial -- if indeed it was an engine fire, and everything is preliminary at this part of the investigation so we don't even know for sure. yes, the f. aa said it was an engine fire but it's hard to determine just by those pictures. when we go through the checklist procedure for an engine fire situation, we pull what we call a fire handle. that not only sends out fire retardant material, it also shuts off the bleed air system which goes into the cabin and supplies pressurization and air conditioning and heat for the cabin situation. in addition to shutting down electrical, in addition it's shutting down all the electrical that's coming from that -- or hydraulics coming from that particular engine. >> you know, les, the two eyewitnesses i've spoken to about this said that the evacuations seemed to take place very, very quickly. they saw the chutes come down and people coming out. do you have a sense of how quickly a plane like this can actually be evacuated? >> well, an airplane like this, i mean the faa -- you have to perform tests when you initially certify the airplane with a particular airline, david can attest to this. and the answer is you can actually get off of this airplane in probably 90 seconds. >> wow. >> and there are requirements, you know, when each airline accepts this particular -- each particular airplane into their fleet that they have to be able to perform it at that particular time with engines -- with exits blocked and so on and so forth. so i mean i commend the flight attendants, the entire cockpit crew for doing what they were supposed to do. this is a training event that we do every time in recurrent training. you know, probably once in a career if that at all will you ever have to perform an evacuation as a pilot or even as a flight attendant. and i commend them. it seems to me that it went off just about flawlessly. yes, we've got some injuries, but i think these injuries are attributable to the slide escape routes. >> david soucie, when you look at these images, and again we don't know the source of the fire, whether it is the engine, as the faa tweeted out earlier, or whether -- i think it might have been you or les who suggested it could even be smoke coming off tires when a takeoff is aborted like that, there's a lot of friction on those tires. how long does it usually take to kind of figure this stuff out? >> well, this will be a pretty quick investigation, but you won't hear a lot of it because the preliminary investigation will say this is what happened. but after that is when you find out why it happened. if there was something went wrong with the system. if there was a rupture, if there was some kind of maintenance issue that caused it to happen. but this is, as les did point out earlier, you know, when you have an engine failure and you're trying to stop that airplane, you've already pretty much committed to take off, there's a lot of energy and inertia going forward. so now you're relying exclusively on those brakes to stop the aircraft so it's still unclear to me as to whether the engine fire caused this or whether it was an engine out that subsequently caused a fire from the brakes as les was point out earlier. >> david, les, thanks for your expertise. i appreciate it. just ahead, the kentucky clerk who refused to issue same-sex marriage licenses freed from jail today. she steps up to a mic and we'll tell you where the story goes from here. the human foot has always been good at... it's unleashing great power. the is performance line just got a power boost. introducing the lexus is 200 turbo and is 300 awd v6. the is line has never been... more powerful. once driven, there's no going back. wait, i can freeze my account. 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i understand kim davis is expected to return to work. do we know what she's going to do when she gets there? >> reporter: yeah, we're told she'll return to her office sometime this week. this is an $80,000 a year job so she has to get back to work. we do know the ball is back in her court. the judge put her in jail because she was refusing to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples despite his orders to do just that, so he remanded her to the custody of the u.s. marshals. he then ordered her deputy clerks to issue the licenses. because same-sex couples were then able to go to the clerk's office and pick up those licenses, the judge has decided that kim davis can be released from jail but has ordered her not to interfere with the process that's being carried through by her deputy clerks. so we asked her attorney, will kim davis try and interfere with that process? he couldn't guarantee that she wouldn't, he just over and over again reiterated that she would continue to follow her conscience. so can we rule out the possibility that kim davis would interfere and that she would ultimately be returned to jail? i don't think anyone is able to rule that out at this point, anderson. >> her legal team, they're trying to get the governor of kentucky to intervene on her behalf. in what way? >> reporter: yeah, they're sort of throwing everything at the wall. they have five motions in front of the sixth circuit court of appeals. if they don't get the resolution from the courts, they're going to try to pursue other avenues, which is to take a look at the laws in the state of kentucky. the statute here assigns the authority to give out marriage licenses to the clerk, so what her attorneys are asking for is the governor to intervene with an executive order or to call a special session of the general assembly in which they would change the statute and change the way that these marriage licenses are issued. basically stripping kim davis' name and the authority of her office from those documents. but the governor has said he has no plans to do either of those things. the legislature will reconvene in january, and if legislators want to take it up then, they can. that means, again, it's a waiting game to see if kim davis will just allow the appeals process to move forward or whether she will try to actually intervene when deputy clerks move to give out those licenses to same-sex couples, if they continue to do that, anderson. >> we'll see. thank you very much. joining me is david brody, chief political correspondent for the christian broadcast program. you were at the rally earlier for kim davis. i know you consider what happened today to be a watershed moment for the evangelical movement. in what way? >> well, in a couple different ways. first of all, anderson, all of the evangelicals and quite frankly all of the americans watching today on live television, there were plenty of evangelicals, millions watching, basically seeing this woman jailed for her biblical faith. let's face it, as much as the critics say it wasn't about -- it was about the fact she wouldn't obey the law, the reality is in the evangelical world she was jailed because of her views that the marriage is between a man and a woman. so when she came out and had that victory celebration, if you will, that was a watershed moment for evangelicals because it could indeed be a wake-up call for them all around the country, the ones that don't vote in this country. anderson, there are about 90 million evangelicals in this country. only 30 million vote. 60 million evangelicals, that's a huge number, do not vote. the question is the dorito packing crowd on the couch, those evangelicals that don't engage, will they engage now, now that kim davis is a poster child for religious liberty. >> i saw a lot of signs saying that the supreme court is the new isis for -- against christians. if kim davis had been muslim or if there had been a muslim clerk who was denying a marriage license to -- well, say to kim davis for her second or third marriage because she's been married now four times, do you think the same people would have come out to support her or is it the idea that christianity itself is somehow being attacked? >> well, it's two things. i don't think there's any question that christians believe that christianity is under attack in america. there's no question about it. having said that, if you talk to bobby jindal, mike huckabee, ted cruz and the list goes on, observant jew's faith is under attack or a muslim's faith is under attack, they would do, quote, the same thing. now, as it relates to the kim davis situation, i don't know if they necessarily have gone down that road but i can tell you they have also been very outspoken, many of these presidential candidates, about someone's intrinsic faith, whether it be jew, muslim or christian. >> mike huckabee and cruz both visited davis in jail before she was released. they were both at the rally today. cruz wasn't on stage, huckabee was and stuck close next to her. even huckabee said that he would volunteer to go to jail for davis. how much do you think their presence at this rally and their support for kim davis will actually play out in the presidential race? do you think this is a big boost for mike huckabee? >> i think it's a huge boost. look, the visual, anderson, of mike huckabee on stage raising hands in solidarity with kim davis in front of hundreds and hundreds of people here in kentucky and quite frankly all over the country as they watch it unfold on live television is a huge boost for mike huckabee. i don't think there's any question about it. now here's the thing and here's the reality of the situation. whether there were zero cameras or 100 cameras here, mike huckabee believes the same thing. he does believe in not only the concept of religious liberty but what kim davis is standing for. and so was it grandstanding for the cameras? absolutely not. having said that, is there some political benefit to it? you betcha. >> well, ted cruz wasn't on the stage and there's some reports perhaps he was blocked from going on the stage. you can't discount there was some political grandstanding perhaps going on. >> i don't know if the word is "grandstanding" or not. you're using that word. i would suggest that there is always political benefit any time you're in the middle of a religious liberty discussion, in the middle of a presidential election, and you're in front of an evangelical crowd. i think there will be political repercussions from that, i don't think there's any question about that. ted cruz was here as well, he wasn't on stage. this was a mike huckabee and kim davis, if you will, event. and the cruz folks never intended necessarily to get on stage, though he did want to come here, show his support. he actually held a press conference behind the media staging area while the rally was going on. it was quite a scene that was taking place. >> david brody, appreciate you being on, thank you. coming up just ahead, we have wreaki breaking news. hillary clinton apologizing for using an e-mail server. will saying she's sorry be enough to put the controversy behind her? 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buy in. quickenloans/home buy. refi. power. from and the people whought you underwhelbrought youet speeds. temperamental satellite television. introducing... underwhelming internet speeds and temperamental television... in one. welcome to the moment no one's been waiting for. the fastest internet and the best tv experience is already here with x1. only from xfinity. breaking news tonight in the 2016 presidential race. just a day after saying no apologies were needed for using a private e-mail server as secretary of state, hillary clinton sat down with abc news' david muir and said this. >> in retrospect certainly as i look back at it now, even though it was allowed, i should have used two accounts, one for personal, one for work-related e-mails. that was a mistake. i'm sorry about that. i take responsibility. and i'm trying to be as transparent as i possibly can to not only release 55,000 pages of my e-mails, turn over my server, but i am looking forward finally to testifying before congress, something i've been asking for, for nearly a year. >> that was hillary clinton on abc's world news tonight. more on the story and back story from brianna keilar. this is the first time that we're hearing her actually apologizing for this, right? >> reporter: definitely. this was a clear apology, anderson, unlike what we've heard so far. she still stressed that the way she conducted her e-mail practices was allowed under the regulations that governed her while she was secretary of state, but she clearly said there i am sorry, this was a mistake. just compare this to last week when andrea mitchell interviewed her and asked her about this. clinton apologized not for what she did but for the confusion that it accused. yesterday she told the associated press that she had nothing to apologize for because her e-mail procedures were allowed. so it's really what a difference a day makes here. and back in july when i interviewed her in iowa, she was adamant that she had done nothing wrong, there was no contrition, so this is quite a departure today. a contrite hillary clinton we just haven't heard before. >> she was also asked about two e-mails now classified as top secret that were sent to her personal e-mail account. i want to play that. >> what changed in them so significantly that you wouldn't have seen red flags, even just a couple of years ago as secretary of state. that you of all people would have known. >> that's a very fair question, and i think there are a couple of answers. one, sometimes events do proceed in a way that maybe there is a case being brought against somebody, maybe even a terrorist, and all of a sudden everything is classified. >> but north korea's nuclear program -- >> there's a lot of public information about their nuclear program. i don't know the specifics about the one that they are claiming is classified. >> what else do we know about those two e-mails? >> reporter: well, these two e-mails in a review by the cia and another intel agency, that review found that the information in these two e ma-ms was claz classified when these were sent to clinton. so we're hearing clinton in this interview really hanging her halt on that. she said, look, there's disagreement between the agencies on this judgment of whether the e-mails were classified. and she's still maintaining this line, anderson, that we've heard for several weeks now from her, insisting that she never sent or received any e-mails that were marked classified at the time they were sent or received. very careful parsing there of words that she has stuck to since it first became public that some of these e-mails were classified after they were sent, anderson. >> appreciate the update. this is happening obviously with new polling showing joe biden, who's not even a candidate as of now, on the rise, and new efforts to revamp mrs. clinton's public image. joining us is dan pfeiffer and dick sarpulian and neeya malika hernandezson. dan, do you feel like the clinton campaign has a firm grasp on how they are dealing with this e-mail story? yesterday they declined to apologize and today they're being equivocal about it. there's a story they're retooling to make her more humble. what is going on? >> they have been in a barrel, a bad news cycle with bad news after bad news and they have struggled with this. i think hillary clinton has taken a long time to find the right tone. i think in the interview clip we've just heard she's finally gotten there. it's hard sometimes to say you're sorry but it's the right thing to do in this case. this plus her upcoming testimony with the house republicans are her best shots to put this behind her and if she doesn't, she'll continue to struggle. after a tough summer of fits and starts, they're on the right path but they're put themselves in a little bit of a hole and they have to dig out of it. >> david axelrod said if you're going to be humble and authentic, just do it and don't leak it out that that's what your campaign is sort of meeting about how to make you more authent authentic. >> that story was a disaster for the clinton campaign. i agree with david axelrod about that. i will say that i know the folks in the clinton campaign, most of them. many of them helped elect and reelect barack obama. i'm positive they didn't get in a room and say here's a good strategy, let's roll out our plan for spontaneity. sources talked, there was a mistake plemade. i don't think they did this on purpose but they'll have to dig out of it. >> that happened and the next day here's hillary clinton apologizing and telling a heart-felt story about her mom and tearing up on camera. >> so it almost makes everything sound almost calculating there. i talked to folks in the campaign aand apparently that story had been in the works for a while. i think there's some head scratching among democrats about why they did this story. they feel like they're turning the page. they have this debate coming up in october and this testimony on the hill as well. but my goodness, i think if you were to fast forward and sort of look back at this summer, did they waste this summer? did they sort of waste precious time not dealing with this e-mail issue, therefore giving rise to sort of bernie sanders' chatter about joe biden, whether they can dig out of this hole we'll have to see. the problem is every so often, every couple of weeks at least until january there are going to be these releases of the e-mails and more focus on it. >> it's not going away. >> exactly. >> dick, you're a big supporter of the vice president, you want him to get in the race. i want to play for you what hillary clinton said tonight to abc when she was asked about a possible biden presidency. >> would he make a good president? >> well, i like joe biden a lot. and i think he is a great vice president. if he gets into this election, there will be lots of time to talk about what he wants to do. >> would he make a good president? >> well, i think he could be a good president. there's no doubt about that. >> how do you interpret her answer? she enclosuclearly didn't want initially say biden would be a good president. >> well, i think she's obviously worried about the vice president running, but i think what she's beginning to realize like here in south carolina we see mayor joe riley say he's going to support joe biden if he gets in the race. we see a number of elected officials, folks like me, the draft biden folks just hired isaiah nelson, who ran the coordinated campaign in south carolina twice. there's a group of folks coming together because they love the vice president and know he is a genuine, honest, decent human being. and hillary continues to parse her words. when she says she's sorry. sorry is what you say when you knock the salt over on the dining room table. the people of this country expect a more clear, transparent explanation of what the hell happened. >> dan, as far as rivalries go, you were obviously in the obama administration. it always seemed like hillary clinton and joe biden had a pretty collegial relationship. and watching her in that interview, i mean is there a chill or is it just simply an awkward situation for her to be in, you know, being this guy who she may -- who she says she likes and may potentially run against? >> i think that that was a very awkward and unfortunate answer. it's sort of like what the kids said throwing shade at him. >> i love you quoting what the kids say. >> kids these days. >> joe biden would be an excellent president, hillary clinton would be an excellent president. it's possible -- she should applaud joe biden. she's done that in every other interview. i'm hoping this is just a misstep. what would be terrible is joe biden would get in the race and this becomes a race to the bottom when they fight with each other when they can both draw contrasts but do it in a way the kind of president they'd be. >> vice president biden has been very clear his family is the most important factor in this decision. i know you talked to him in the last month or so. how likely do you think it is that he's going to get in the race? >> you know, anderson, that's tough to project. i have talked to him. i know his family is number one. that's one of the reasons all want him to run. how many folks in washington are worried about their family when they have a legitimate chance to be the next president of the united states? most of them would throw the baby and the mama and everybody else under the bus to get into the white house. this guy is a genuinely good guy. 40 years in politics, i've never met a more genuinely, honest, nice, good guy. and that's why i want him to be president of the united states. >> dick harpootlian, dan pfeiffer. ben carlson's numbers are surging, he's gaining ground on donald trump. his message is resonating with many gop voters. gary tuchman hits the campaign trail to dig deeper. noticed rig i just had to adopt him. he's older so he needs my help all day. when my back pain flared up we both felt it i took tylenol at first but i had to take 6 pills to get through the day. then my friend said "try aleve". just two pills, all day. and now, i'm back for my best bud! aleve. all day strong and try aleve pm, now with an easy open cap. earlier tonight hillary clinton declined to weigh in on the republican primary, saying it was a question better answered by republicans and they seem to be doing just that, leaning heavily toward donald trump and more recently dr. ben carlson. the latest batch of iowa polling from nbc news and marist showing donald trump continues to be the clear leader with dr. carson close behind and gaining ground, nearly tripling his support since july. jeb bush, meantime, fading by 50% over that same period and everyone else at 5% or less. dr. carson's rise among gop voters coming very much the same way he speaks, quietly. some amplification of just what they see of him from gary tuchman. >> reporter: speaking before hundreds of people, many of whom say they will enthusiastically support him for president, ben carson let it be known he had not been enthusiastic about running for president, but he felt a calling. >> i just said, lord, you know, it's not something that i particularly wish to do, but if you really want me to do it, you'll have to open the doors. >> reporter: and the former brain surgeon says he has now walked through those doors and is enjoying a rapid rise in the polls. at this event in san francisco, there are diehard supporters. >> i think the fact that he is a doctor shows that he has a large capacity to be able to absorb complicated information and then process it out, and i think we want someone who has not been in politics all of their life. the country is ready for a change. >> reporter: and others who are intrigued, but like other candidates too. >> donald trump and ben carson together would be an unbeatable team for president and vice president. >> who should be president? >> oh, by all means, donald trump. >> reporter: like donald trump, ben carson is an outsider, but unlike trump, carson is laid back, to say the least. carson remains very soft spoken. even when asked about a top priority, balancing the federal budget. >> i would call in all departmental heads and i'd say, i want you to reduce your budget by 3% to 4%. and if you can't do it, turn in your resignation now, because you're going to be fired. >> i think he's honest. i think he has great integrity. i think he's very brilliant. he could not have come out of the ghetto of detroit and reached the pyramid that he reached without being extremely brilliant. >> reporter: dr. carson's medical career is widely respected. >> my question is, though, how does that qualify you to deal with isis, north korea, the ayatollahs in iran? where does that qualification come from and that background? >> well, the way i kind of look at it, there are those who feel that the only people who can actually come up with solutions are people with a lot of political experience. but if you take the collective political experience of congress, it comes out to almost 9,000 years. what has it done for us? >> reporter: and regarding the hopes of some here of a carson/trump or trump/carson ticket -- >> you on track to win the nomination, will you name donald trump as your vice president? [ laughing ] >> all things are possible. [ laughing ] >> will you serve as his vice president? >> all things are possible. >> gary joins us now from san francisco. i mean it's interesting that donald trump has not gone after ben carson so far during the campaign. carson just said anything is possible when asked about trump as a running mate. but did he say anything negative about trump today? >> reporter: well, ben carson spoke about trump a couple of times and nothing negative at all. at one point carson was talking about the iraq nuclear agreement -- the iran nuclear agreement, that is, and he not surprisingly made it clear he's against it. he said when he's in the white house, that it will not exist, but when it's time to start talking about it again, he told the audience, quote, maybe i'll get donald trump to help with the negotiations. and then he laughed. >> gary tuchman, thanks very much. coming up next, new word on injuries in that fire and evacuation aboard a british airways 777 on a las vegas runway tonight. we've also obtained radio transmissions between the airliner and air traffic control the moment the emergency began. the human foot has always been good at... it's unleashing great power. the is performance line just got a power boost. introducing the lexus is 200 turbo and is 300 awd v6. the is line has never been... more powerful. once driven, there's no going back. what do a nasca comedian... and a professional golfer have in common? 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>> hey, anderson, it's been quite a situation here. we've been in the international terminal just watching these paramedics wheel these passengers out. i caught up with one passenger who actually explained what had happened. he was sitting there on the plane and all of a sudden he heard a giant thud. but let's hear him in his own words. >> of course, yeah. tell me what happened. >> yeah. we were just gaining speed to take off and i just heard a big thud. i opened up the cover of my window and just saw flames on the engine and we suddenly stopped. we sat still for about a minute just waiting to hear what to do and then we just heard the captain say this is an emergency, evacuate. >> they opened the wrong door, initially. i thought it wasn't safe. and, yeah, so we -- yeah, so they opened one door. and then they opened the other door and we all just ran for that one. >> can you repeat that one more time? >> reporter: how scary was it? >> it was pretty scary. it's just shocking, more than anything. hopefully, nobody was too hurt. but i don't know. >> reporter: what's your snam? >> jay. >> reporter: jay what? >> jay jennings. >> reporter: thank you, jay. >> no, problem. >> that was a shot by phone, and herbson. i'm just sitting here trying to gather information and we've been seeing these passengers wheeled out. as you can see, he appear today be in good condition. we've been hearing that all of the patients seem to be okay. as you mentioned, 14 people at this point transported all of them with minor injuries. but a lot of rattled nerves, i can tell you that. we saw one woman who appear today have some snoek inhalation. it appeared she had been skrieing. just an emotional wreck of what happened. >> as we said, more than 150 passengers on board that plane. moving on now to the refugee crisis playing out right now in europe. thousands of displaced people arriving in germany over the weekend. many travels through austria and 00 ri. many from syria seeking ref yung in europe. an influx that keeps crisis. hundreds of frustrated migrants and refugees broke through police lines. our photographer was in the thick of it. take a look. >> reporter: we're running now with these mile grangrants and refugees. the police are literally right behind the man in front triering to bring them under control. there are hundreds of them that staged this breakout because they were fed up at the conditions they were being held in. >> for days now, they've been documenting what the refugees are facing. more now from her. >> reporter: a frantic dash after breaking through a police line. stay together, this man shouts. tar riing his daughter as they charge into the corn field. no one knows where they are going. just that they need to get far away. they had spent hours, for some, days, waiting at a holding area that was supposed to be stemp rare. and just couldn't take it anymore. stumbling over uneven ground, shouting out the names of the war zones they fled. jubilant, breathless, defiant. desperate to move. >> reporter: they're worried that the police are going to come and use violence to get them back into the camp. and you can hear the sirens right now, it's causing people to run even faster. especially those with the kids. they're the ones that are really struggling to get away. fumbling through thick undergrowth, the police close in, forcing the refugees to scatter, split into two groups. families lose each other, but this is no time to stop. drained of what little energy they had, the police eventually catch up. but the refugees keep going. a sister and brother lose their shoes. rocks digging into their tiny feet. but they don't complain. their mother carries the youngest, unable to comforts him, she ignores his cries. a after hours of walking, the police finally block their path. again, they try to push through. crushing bodies, screams, babies crying. the police eventually convince them to stay. they bring food and much-needed water. negotiations lead to a compromise. buzzes to take them elsewhere for the night and then in the morning, they are told a train to the austrian border. a breakout having traveled this far, unable to cope with waiting any longer. >> another dramatic day for these refugees. is there any end insighted to this? >> no, there really isn't, anderson. countries like hungry are trying to build up walls. until you deal with the root cause of why so be are fleaing their homelands, that is mainly war. war in countries like syria, iraq and afghanistan. they're not trying to take advantage of what europe has to offer, per se. they're coming because opportunities have been taken away from them back in their homelands. they can't get jobs, they can't have a future, their children can't have an education. and, first and foremost, also, they can't be secure. and that's not just physical security. but it's also -- they can't secure futures for themselves or for their children back in their homelands. >> appreciate you being there. thank you. we'll continue to follow that. we'll be right back. at&t and directv are now one. which means you can watch movies while you're on the move. sitcoms, while you sit on those. and even fargo, in fargo! binge, while you lose weight! and enjoy a good cliffhanger while you hang from a... why am i yelling? 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next to air force one, the retired presidential plane. kpmt this debate to have plenty of fireworks. 15 candidates going out on the sunday talk shows this morning on full attack mode. first up, donald trump center stage and still dominating the polls. >> well, i'm a deal maker. i'll make great deals for this country. ben can't do that. ben's a doctor and he's not a deal maker. >> i'm gratified to see that so many people are starting to listen to what i'm saying and evaluating it on its merits as opposed to listening to what people have portrayed me as saying. >> it's about five months out. we've got the time to make the grass roots connections and get that message out. >> i have no doubt i could come down to congress, not cave like other people have done, and get the job done. >> just some of what we heard this morning. over the next two hours, we have all the political angles ahead of the big debate. our correspondents, contributors including debate moderator jake tapper. let's go straight to california. that's where we find brook baldwin. hi, brook. >> i am full on geeking out right now. i don't know if you can tell. but i mean, i hit the ground here in california on friday afternoon, poppy. you would love this. i will enjoy this extra for you, my friend. being here in simi valley, flanked by the mountain rage to my left. i walked around the area where the debate stage is set. let me just say just the history, walking through air force one, a little bit of ronald reagan trivia, he was a big birthday guy. any time a member of the press was on air force one and have a birthday, he would always have a cake on the ready for them. forgive me, i'm geeking. back to what's happening this coming wednesday. one of the things we'll be watching for is the tone of the candidates. this morning on cnn's "state of the union" reince priebus was asked about that very same thing and whether he thought all the -- listen, this has gotten extraordinarily personal, all this negative rhetoric would hurt the party's chance to win the white house. here's what he said. >> the way you communicate in tone and very important. sometimes it's not what you say, it's how you say it. i think all of our moms have told us that. but, look, all these candidates are going to have to account for their own mouths and their own words. >> reporter: listen, tone, not the only issue that could be problematic for some of these candidates come wednesday night. another issue potentially for the rnc. two candidates have now come forward and have said they will not support donald trump if he is the eventual nominee. pataki tweeting this this morning, says, let me be very plain, i am not going to vote for donald trump. he is unfit to be president. he goes on, i would hope that every one of my fellow candidates will stand up and say our party cannot nominate donald trump to which trump responded, he jumped on twitter this morning, why is someone like george pataki who registered zero in the polls allowed on the debate stage. trump went onto tout his record during an interview for cbs's "face the nation". >> i've created a tremendous company. i have some of the greatest assets in the world. to be honest with you -- i'm not saying that to brag. i'm just saying that's the kind of mind set that our country needs. >> reporter: all this drama comes after the rnc got all the republican candidates, remember, to sign this loyalty pledge stating they would not mount a third-party run if they lost out on the party's nomination. we should mention here, there will be one fewer candidate on the stage on a couple buildings away from me for the so-called happy hour debate. that airs at 6:00 before the prime time debate two hours later at 8:00. that is texas governor rick perry bowing out friday because of poll numbers and financial issues with his campaign. that is some news we wanted to get to you. to cnn political director who has been here in simi valley for the last couple of days. i know we're going to get to your cheat sheet, but we need to geek out together. just to see the setup, to see air force one, everything you guys have set up is truly phenomenal. >> it will be no doubt a f fantastic evening. i went to go visit ronald reagan's grave site. it's just out back here in the libra library. you read his quotes and you think, this really is the father of the modern republican movement. all the issues that are going to be debated here, he is the revered figure in the party. it's the perfect place to be for this debate. >> with your cheat sheet, if we had to think of three things that you will be watching for, what is number one? >> number one is trump versus the field. you were pointing to governor pataki and bobby jindal's tweets this morning. every candidate has to figure out what is their approach about donald trump. do they want to link arms with him and they also have to prepare for the counter punch. donald trump has said that is what he does best. so i think everyone on that stage has to figure out how to have a moment connected to the conversation and as you know, the entire conversation of this campaign right now is about donald trump. >> it's so true. jeb bush wished it weren't. we saw him with the superman move and the t-shirt on underneath. i don't know if that will be happening here wednesday night. item number two? >> jeb's fortitude. this is a big jeb bush debate. he's going to be tested for his own strength. does he have the ability to stand up next to donald trump and take him on? as you know donald trump has been relentless in his attacks against jeb bush. jeb bush shied away during this first debate and that caused a lot of concern inside his land of supporters. in the last couple weeks, jeb bush has been taking on donald trump rhetorically on the trail. >> we're talking inches away. i was standing on the stage -- >> he's got to prove that he is willing not just to advocate for his own candidacy, but actually take on the trump attack. >> do you think they'll look each other in the eye? >> i don't know. >> item number three is -- >> is the fiorina factor. she's on the big kids stage. she had a superb debate last anytime on the undercard. i think having the only woman on stage and a fierce political fighter. that is what carly fiorina is. she does not take it from anybody. i think her energy, the fact that she's the only woman and the new element on the stage is like watch out for what the carly fiorina factor is. >> and just to quickly add onto all of that, walking around this area, this is not like the big cleveland cavalier arena. this is much more intimate. you have, what, 500 people and there are people sitting 5 feet from those candidates. so intimate and quiet. >> it is intimate, it is quiet. which doesn't necessarily match their goals in the moment of what they need to accomplish. in what has been a pretty noisy campaign so far. now to calibrate in that intimate setting will be an interesting test for them. >> pressure's on. we'll be here. at the bottom of the hour, jake tapper, who is moderating this whole thing, takes us back inside the library as to how the stage, how it's getting set for wednesday night. for the meantime, poppy, back to you. >> you guys make a great geek out team, brooke. i feel like you're going to sleep at the reagan library you're so excited to be there. >> totally. >> brooke's going to be live with me from the reagan library tonight for the next two hours. but let's talk a little bit more about the debate, what's at stake. with me here in new york, contributing editor of the atlantic and the national jurn. also in dallas, cnn political commentator ben ferguson. thank you for being with me. these candidates, all of them praising ronald reagan. every time they get a chance, they seem to want to be the next reagan, right? even down to jeb bush. take a look at that. who has tried to down play his family connections at times revealing that old reagan bush t-shirt from 1984. but is donald trump the candidate making the most obvious effort to align himself with reagan jumping from hollywood really if you will and to politics trying to reach the highest office in the land when critics, even carly fiorina calling him an entertainer. is that a fair comparison? >> i think it's a somewhat flawed comparison. reagan was a stalwart of the conservative movement really going back to 1964 when he burst onto the scene. >> right. >> he was someone who was very aligned i'd logically for a long time. yes, he was an entertainer. but he had decades of being in republican politics. what makes trump so unusual, he has no history really with the conservative movement. >> used to be -- >> used to be a democrat. up until very recently he had a lot of liberal positions. reagan was very scripted guy. trump is completely unscripted. no one has any idea what's going to come out of his mouth. >> which makes compelling television. ben, i do want to ask you specifically about this. you heard before with brooke that sound bite from reince priebus this morning responding to jake tapper's question to him about the comments especially from donald trump about immigrants and hispanics in this country. priebus said, look, the candidates are going to have to be held accountable for their own words. are republicans in danger do you think in the long term of not getting the traction they need with hispanics? >> no, i think donald trump is at risk with that specific question, but not the rest of the field. donald trump is his own guy in a very weerld, unique way. he's not defining the republican party. he's not the center of the republican -- when he comes on stage, he doesn't even know i think half the time what he's going to say. which is why people like him because he's so real, raw, and doesn't seem like a scripted politician. it's played to his advantage. he's mastered that, i'm not your normal politician. but i don't think he's -- i don't think anyone that's looking at donald trump is thinking, gosh, is it donald trump or these other nine people? they're all so similar. they're not similar. they're drastically different. >> let me get -- >> ben consider son is a great example. >> sure, they are drastically different. let me ask you about this. peter, you wrote this fascinating article a few years ago for the daily beast. you argued that ronald reagan would have a tough time winning the republican nomination today. because as president he actually grew the federal government, he raised taxes several times, he also signed the 1986 immigration bill which essentially gave amnesty to 2.7 million immigrants in this country. do you think republicans have forgotten all of those key things that the reagan presidency stood for. >> yes, he was a conservative. but he was not doctrine in the way republicans are being forced to be now. he also nominated two of the three supreme court -- o'connor was very unpopular among conservatives. and two of the three people he appointed voted to uphold abortion rights. although he talks in very conservative ways, har conning back to a traditional 1950s america, americans liked social security and medicare, they didn't want the government to mess with it. they didn't want the government to get them into any new wars. reagan had an appreciation for where the country actually was. i think some of these republicans today focused on pleasing certain interest groups they've lost that. >> we'll be watching what happens. ben, i need -- >> they all want to be reagan. >> we will leave it at that. as always, gentlemen, thank you very much. you will not want to miss the gop presidential debate. the candidates facing off in back-to-back debates. it is wednesday night, september 18th at 6:00 and 8:00 p.m. we'll be right back. ♪ col♪ i know, i know... ing.. ♪ color is a beautiful thing if you feel it, you can find it. all new color by behr. if you struggle you're certainly not 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>> first of all, the weather is beautiful. what a site to have a presidential library on top of a hill just looking out. it's gorgeous. quite frankly, inside outdistances what we're seeing out here. >> the people who have come here -- >> everything. amazing. >> let's talk about governor scott walker. republican governor of wisconsin. this is typically a blue state. union buster. so he's taken on the recall challenge, weathered through that. when you look at him in the polls, though, he's slipping. so he's sixth nationally. ten when you look at how he's doing in iowa. he talked to us on "state of the union." he said, listen, i have to step it up. >> this election seems to be at least right now about embracing outsiders, republicans liking donald trump and dr. ben carson and carly fiorina, people who have never before held elective office. we just saw governor rick perry, the longest serving governor in texas history drop out. you have spent a lifetime working in politics and government. why should voters and how are you going to convince them that you're the right choice when they're desperate for somebody who is not part of politics in government? 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>> i think many of them have been traumatized by the kind of pictures they've seen, by the number of people op the roads with babies, certainly the picture of that baby dead on the beach is something which has been a wakeup call to many. >> reporter: there's been a growing debate within israel about whether to take in any refugees since israel and syria share a tense border. prime minister benjamin netanyahu says it would threaten israel security. >> translator: israel is a small country that lacks demographic and geographic depth. therefore we must control our borders both against illegal m migrants and terrorism. >> reporter: when jews speak of the holocaust, they often say never again. she says for that to mean something, never again has to apply to every one. cnn, tel-aviv. >> thank you for that report. i want to bring in now a woman who came to this country as a refugee from bosnia in 1998. joining me from massachusetts, thank you for being here. >> thank you for having me, poppy. >> you are currently a student at harvard and you and your friends started this group, this twitter campaign, facebook campaign that i saw actually traveling overseas last week. and the hash tag is, i was also a refugee. what is it about, what does it mean to you? >> that's right, poppy. so again, we also were inspired just about a week ago seeing those images coming from europe to do something. and being three former refugees ourselves, you know, and knowing the stories of many other refugees in our communities, we thought that it's important to share our stories. the reason being that often refugees are viewed as a burden, a potential burden on society, people who come to, you know, take something for free. and we just know from our experiences and our families' experiences that that's not the case. surely many refugees need help in this beginning. but if given a chance, these are people who work hard to build their livelihoods and their lives again. >> i want to hear a little bit about your personal story coming from bosnia after the war tore apart that country. combing here to oakland, california in 1998. you talk about your family coming over. tell us what it was like for you personally. >> that's right. i came here as a teenager. i was 15 years old. my mom came here with my brother and i and really just two bags full of clothing and nothing else. we had no family in the united states. and so they housed us under their roof for the first couple of weeks and then, like you said, you know, we were on government food stamps and welfare, but that only lasted about six months on so. soon after that, all three of us started to work. my mother was working two jobs as a nurse assistant. my brother and i were both in high school at the time but working nights and weekends to make sure we made ends meet. even within the first year or two, we even paid back the air fare that was sponsored for us by the u.n. agency that brought us here to the united states. >> wow. now you're at harvard. one of your friends that started this with you i believe working for nasa. you make the point that you don't have to go to harvard and be getting your doctorate and achieve all this. >> that's right. there are many people former refugees that i know, some of whom started small businesses as electricians or contractors, as photographers. others are contributing in science, in the arts, in sports. others are just living happy, normal lives and are building their families. i mean, i think that, again, you know, refugees just like any part of society come in many different flavors. but i think the main point is that almost none of them expect to get by for free and that many of these people work hard and often twice as hard because they really start from nothing to be able to -- and don't expect much -- to be given something for free, but rather to work for it. >> so important to put a face to it. look at all that you have accomplished since coming to this country. thank you so much. i appreciate you being with us, telling your personal story. i do want to point people again to the facebook page where they can learn more #ialsowasa refugee. thank you. coming up next, fortune's list of the 50 most powerful women in business. we will tell you who made the cut, any surprises, and who was honored as the youngest on the list next. iflike i love shrimp, red lobster's endless shrimp... ...is kind of a big deal. it's finally back, with as much shrimp as you want, any way you want 'em. one taste of these new pineapple habanero coconut shrimp bites, and i already want more. they even brought back wood-grilled teriyaki shrimp! yeah, you heard me: teriyaki. and really: what's not to love about... ...buttery garlic shrimp scampi? 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begins right now. good evening. to our viewers in the west, behind me is the postcard image of which the people of the roseburg, oregon, area are justifiably proud. but at the top of the hill and surrounded by trees and still cut off by police is a scene of horror. the umpqua community college campus where nine innocent lives were taken in a mass shooting. last night a sorrowful president obama spoke in frustrated tones about the routineness of mass shootings in the country and the fear we have become numb to them. but nothing in the last 30 hours have been routine for the people of this community and it is not numbness but pain they feel tonight because this national nightmare has come to their town. our team on the ground is working the story. miguel almaguer begins our coverage. >> unconfirmed report that he has a long gun. >> reporter: the first calls for help came at 10:38 a.m. >> dispatch as many ambulances as possible. >> reporter: what followed on t umpqua college campus was nine minutes of terror. >> i'm very lucky. there is some people that didn't make it out of there. >> reporter: 17-year-old sara cobb held in a neighboring classroom, next to the professor's writing class when 26-year-old chris harper mercer began shooting students and staff. >> i was terrified. absolutely terrified. i didn't know if i was going to be alive or get shot. >> reporter: armed with six guns including a rifle, mercer had body armor and extra ammunition. >> we may never completely determine what the motive was but we'll certainly look everywhere. >> one witness said the shooter was calm and asking students what their religion was before opening fire. >> it was just multiple gunshots. everybody was screaming, get underneath the table. one guy ran out of the classroom and i believe he got shot. >> reporter: it was chaos. while students scrambled for their lives. two officers engaged mercer who was killed in the gunfire. as police secure the campus, students were checked for weapons and bused to the safety of the fairgrounds where parents were waiting for word, was their child alive. the college president said no one could have anticipated this. >> it is like carnage in eden. >> reporter: tonight the names of the dead were released. nine innocent victims. jason johnson was 34 and was his fourth day at school. >> i wish that i would have said don't go. if i knew what i know now. >> reporter: at a vigil, hundreds mourn the dead. >> he was there for me when i really, really needed him. he was there when i was sad. >> reporter: nine others were wounded. among the hurt, chris mintz is being called a hero. >> he was trying to block the shooter. >> an army veteran and young father said to have rushed the gunman and may have saved lives. the victims are all seriously injured but expected to survive. as for the dead, they range in age from 18-67. the youngest was a freshman, the oldest was the professor here and the gunman was in fact, enrolled in the school and supposed to attend the class where he opened fire. >> miguel, thanks. and that is somewhat of we're learned about the man what carried out this massacre. law enforcement say he was struggling with mental illness issues and he left behind a chilling final message revealing himself as someone who believed the whole world was against him. nbc's pete williams has been digging into his past. >> law enforcement officials say chris harper mercer wrote a long hate-filled document found at the scene of the shooting. according to those who have seen it, said he would be welcomed in hell and embraced by the devil. and lamented that he was in a bad way, that the world was against him and he had no life, no girlfriend. and he showed a detailed interest in other mass shootings and wrote on a blog on the recent shooting about a tv reporter and photographer saying of that gunman, so many people like him are all alone and unknown yet when they spill a little blood, the whole world knows who they are. that may be the reason the oregon sheriff refuses to talk about it. >> i continue to believe that the media and community members who publicize his name will only glorify his horrific actions and eventually this will only serve to inspire future shooters. >> mercer's parents divorced in 2006. his father ian in los angeles said the killings are devastating. >> shocked. shocked is all i can say. >> reporter: mercer attended this southern california school for emotionally troubled children and moved with his mother to oregon two years ago. neighbors say it was obvious he was troubled. >> i thought he was kind of an odd guy. he was a grown little kid. he would have tantrums if things didn't go his way. >> on his own social media he showed fascination with the military and the irish republican army. the pentagon said he enlisted in 2008 and was kicked out one month later. on a dating website he said he was belonging to a group that was called doesn't like organized religion. authorities say he carried six guns, an assault-style rifle and a bulletproof jacket. >> the jacket had steel plates along with five magazines. an additional amount of ammunition was also recovered at the apartment. >> reporter: a search of the apartment where he lived with his mother turned up seven more guns. officials say all of the guns that mercer had were purchased legally and nothing from his past would have disqualified him from buying them. no court ever ruled him mentally unfit. which is the legal standard under oregon and federal law. lester. >> pete williams, tonight, thank you. and out of the horror committed on the campus behind us, we are hearing of stories that came face-to-face with the shooter and survived. cory and ana boylan are as close as two siblings can be, only two years apart and both attend the college but in yesterday's commotion they couldn't have felt father apart as cory became the first to learn his sister was shot. natalie morales spoke with cory. >> i don't know how to explain the sound of someone's voice when they think they are going to die. >> he was trying to reach his sister in the classroom 500 yards away and when he finally got through on her cell phone it was terrifying. >> she was bawling her eyes out and said i have been shot and i can't feel my legs an -- and i was trying to keep it together for her. >> ana was shot in the back and cory said she remembers every frightening moment. >> she said god was telling her to stay calm and still and don't do anything. and the gunman came up to her and said girl in the black, girl with the blonde hair, stand up. and she stayed still. >> so she was playing dead as she reported. >> exactly. the wherewithal and the presence and the calm it took to not lose it in a situation like that, she's so brave. she's so strong and courageous. and she did exactly what she had to do. i don't know how many people could have done that. i don't know if i could have done that. >> his sister was blessed. the bullet to her spine narrowly missed critical nerves and her lungs. cory raced to her side at the hospital. >> the first thing my sister did when a surgeon came in to ask her and to explain the surgery and she said i want one thing, i want the bullet from my gunshot wound and she started laughing. she is an amazing person. and i love her with all of my heart. i'm proud of her. she's my hero. >> her doctors say she should make a full recovery. one family's remarkable story giving hope in this community's time of need. in eugene, oregon, natalie morales, nbc news. >> a strong and loving brother. the tragedy here in roseburg is reigniting the debate over gun control. practically by the end of this broadcast, two more people will have been shot and killed in this country according to the cdc, one person is killed with a firearm nearly every 16 minutes in the u.s. and 92 people are killed here every day with firearms, including suicides. evidence that america's gun violence nightmare goes beyond the mass shootings that happen all too often. we get more from peter alexander. >> reporter: 5-month-old killed in a drive-by shooting in cleveland, yesterday. >> enough is enough. when are we going to stop counting babies being killed out in the streets for nothing. >> this afternoon president obama was frustrated and fed up about the never-ending toll of gun violence. >> this will not change until the politics changes and the behavior of elected officials changes. and so the main thing i'm going to do is i'm going to talk about this. >> reporter: since 2001, 153,000 americans have been killed by gun violence, compared to 3000 in terror attacks. the vast majority of those on 9/11. americans agree the violence must end but remain bitterly divided on how to stop it. sheriff hanlin wrote vice president biden insisting gun control is not the answer to preventing school shootings. he wouldn't talk about it today. >> right now i'm focused on completing this investigation and more importantly focused on the victims and the family of the victims. >> reporter: on the campaign trail, the republican presidential candidates reacted. jeb bush insisting even in the wake of heartbreaking tragedies, new laws aren't always the solution. >> look, stuff happens. there is always a crisis. and the impulse is to do something and it is not necessarily the right thing to do. >> donald trump in an interview with "meet the press." >> guns, no guns, it doesn't matter. you have people that are mentally ill and they will come through the cracks. >> the latest poll shows less than half support stricter gun control laws but 93% want background checks for all gun buyers. a debate reignited by roseburg, painfully familiar to the daughter of t principal killed at sandy hook elementary. >> how many for families and how many more people and how many more times is this going to happen. until our country does something. >> a question this family is also asking tonight. >> reporter: president obama has called a failure to pass gun safety laws the greatest frustration of his presidency. tonight he ordered the flag to fly at half-staff here at the white house and on federal grounds in honor of the victims of the oregon shooting. lester. >> peter, thanks. we continue to monitor a major weather event effecting much of the eastern seaboard as hurricane joaquin tracks out to sea. another massive system has triggered a flood emergency in several states. what forecasters are calling potentially life-threatening flooding over the next several days. in a moment the forecast from al roker. but first the latest from gabe guiterrez. >> reporter: tonight torrential relentless rain is pounding much of the east coast. 22 million people under a flash flood watch. parts of virginia and maryland under water. river gauges on the chesapeake bay at major flood levels and predicted to rise through the weekend. down the coast, historic charleston, south carolina is drenched. people waded through thigh-deep water. please don't move the barricades and drive through it any way. the saying is don't drown, turn around. so if the road is flooded, there's no reason for you to go through there. >> reporter: hurricane joaquin is still battling the bahamas and the coast guard is searching for a cargo ship with 33 people on board that disappeared from radar yesterday. hurricane hunter planes flew low in the eye of the storm to help find the missing ship. the coast guard also rescuing 12 people who abandoned another vessel that took on water near haiti. intense preparations are spanning nearly a dozen states. six have declared state of emergency. the nypd getting ready for flash floods with inflatable rafts. strong wind and heavy surf slamming into the jersey shore. >> after sandy, you hear the word hurricane and you get afraid. >> reporter: boats pummeled, and sand dunes built up to keep back the storm surge. tonight the east coast may have dodged the brunt of joaquin but it is facing another storm head on. right here at the chesapeake bay we're seeing sustained winds of nearly 30 miles per hour and waves up to 11 feet. several roads in this area have been closed. and more rain is expected to pound this coast through the weekend. lester. >> all right, gabe, thank you. al roker is monitoring the storm as it unfolds. al, where will we see the hardest hit areas. >> the southeast but along the east coast we are feeling the effects of high pressure and joaquin as well as it makes its way away. right now it is 15 miles west northwest of san salvador. starting to weaken. 125 mile-per-hour winds. path brings it parallel to the coast. away from it but enough to bring in some of the winds on shore that will cause problems. and look at the moisture making its way up and down the east coast. coastal flooding expected. we have flood warnings and watches for 45 million people. currently we have flash flood watches for 22 million people from d.c. to charleston. and look at the rainfall amounts. anywhere from 5-7 inches by saturday night and, lester, by sunday night, we're looking at rainfall amounts from 10-15 inches of rain, could be as much as 20. it is life-threatening rain, lester. >> all right. al roker, thank you. still ahead tonight, what is the real story about what happened when the hope came face-to-face same-sex marriage opponent kim davis. the vatican now disputes davis' account and now there is a whole new twist that few knew about until now. a surprise move from the vatican today, pushing back against a description by kentucky clerk kim davis about her private meeting with pope francis during his visit to washington. after days of debate about the significance of that encounter, the vatican now said davis and her lawyer got it wrong. and we're learning about another private meeting adding to the intrigue. here is nbc's hallie jackson. >> reporter: pope francis in america. a historic widely-praised visit, but less than 48 hours after he landed back in rome, news that raised some eyebrows. a meeting with kim davis, the controversial kentucky county clerk who refused to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples. a visit she described on abc. >> i hugged him and he hugged me and he said thank you for your courage. >> reporter: a visit praised by conservatives but disappointing to supporters of same-sex marriage. now an extraordinary statement from the vatican approved by francis himself clarifying his meeting with davis should not be considered a form of support of her position in all of its particular and complex aspects. the vatican down-playing davis' visit saying she was one of dozens who met with the pope in washington. >> pope francis is, as we know, very adept and politically savvy and will not allow himself to get entangled in local debates and this was an effort to untangle some of the the criticism for this meeting. >> reporter: and news of another visit with this same-sex couple and his partner of 19 years. grassy is francis' former student. we have been friends for a long time, he said. he knows about me being gay and he has a lot of respect for me being gay and iwan being my partner. and yet another meeting few saw coming after a visit seen by millions. hallie jackson, nbc news, washington. we're back in a moment with some of the day's other news, including the deadly crash of a u.s. military plane. military plane. n military plane. military plane. am military plane. er military plane. i military plane. c military plane. an military plane. we learned today that american employers slowed down hiring in september. new numbers showing just 142,000 jobs added last month. the unemployment rate held steady at 5.1%. in afghanistan, the death toll stands at 14 after an american c-130 transport plane crashed during takeoff. security is tight around the scene. among the dead are six u.s. airmen and five civilian contractors on board and three civilians on the ground. the u.s. military said enemy fire is not suspected in the crash. also tonight, in president obama's news conference today, some sharp words about syria. he called russia's military invention there this week, dozens of air-strikes, an act of weakness and a recipe for disaster. and he dismissed hillary clinton's call for a no-fly zone in syria, saying, quote, "there is a difference between running for president and being president." we're back in a moment with more on our top story. how this community is coping through an awful tragedy. ===take vo=== another blow for the santa clara county jail- two more correctional deputies are under arrest. ===raj/take vo=== plus: san francisco turns to "crowd-funding" to help small business owners. ===next close=== next. ===raj/2-shot=== thanks for joining us. i'm raj finally tonight, here in roseburg, oregon, we're witnessing an outpouring of support in this community and in the nation beyond it. here is kevin tibbles. >> reporter: on a day after so much carnage, they came by the hundreds to donate the gift of life. >> it is my duty. it is my duty as an american. >> reporter: they say they belong here. in this pretty town of 22,000, with this wooded hills and logging trucks and cafe. no one asked them to come. they just knew. >> i kind of felt helpless with the whole situation. so i felt like this was kind the only way that i could do something. >> reporter: today is a day for community in roseburg. where a go-fund-me page started by a cousin to raise $10,000 has already gathered more than $200,000. for army veteran chris mintz shot seven times while trying to save others. and where local businesses, some staff were kids from the college -- share a common message. at the java run, customers have been paying it forward all day. a coffee for the next in line. nothing big, but oh, so significant. >> we've all been through a lot and it is a good time to pay it forward. >> something as simple as a cup of coffee might just make a difference. >> yes, definitely. coffee and a smile, definitely making their day better. >> reporter: simple things, small personal gestures, signs this small town has pulled together to begin the healing. kevin tibbles. nbc news, roseburg, oregon. one note this afternoon, heard by telephone from the girlfriend of chris mintz for the support chris has been given, she added his actions were not to be heroic but to be human she wanted me to know we need to acknowledge all those that lost their lives in this tragedy. lester holt from roseburg, oregon, from all of us at nbc news, thank you for watching and good night. mathai. ===jess i'm jessica aguirre. we start with breaking news. we've learned within the past hour that two more santa good evening, thanks for being with us. i'm raj mathai. >> i'm jessica aguirre. we've learned in the past hour two more santa clara county correctional deputies have been arrested. >> we have more what the sheriff is saying about the arrests. it's been a trying time for this jail. >> reporter: most definitely. the sheriff did not speak to the media moments ago here. it was a communications sergeant as well as a captain with the police department. they did confirm that two correctional deputies, not officers, deputies have been arrested and booked. one identified as ryan sanders, on eight counts of illegally accessing records of people, according to the sheriff's spokesman, who he had a personal relationship with. the other deputy arrested and booked, mark navarette, identified by the spokespeople here, on a worker's compensation fraud case claiming, according to them, that he had filed a claim that he had been injured on the job when, in fact, he had not been injured on the job. he, according to them, had been injured on his personal time. we do not know the details other than to say it has been a long investigation, predating the focus that's been focused laser-like on the departme
touch. >> he, like, encourages us all, like, rich and poor and everyone, just to be together as brothers and sisters. >> we're following the pope through philadelphia to independence hall. hello and welcome our viewers here in the u.s. and around the world. i'm fredricka whitfield. today the city of brotherly love welcomes the pope, from mass this morning at the basilica, his speech on immigration, later on today at independence hall, to his evening prayer service. all of this expected to draw more than 1 million people. cnn is covering his visit like no other network. our anderson cooper and christiane amanpour are in philadelphia for the final leg of the pope's historic visit. anderson, christiane and company, hello to you. >> good afternoon, fredricka. what a day here in philadelphia. pope francis spending his final full day on american soil in philadelphia, the city where american democracy and independence, of course, were born. >> and for hours, thousands of people have been lining, for some 12 hours before sunrise, lining to catch a glimpse of the pope himself. these are live pictures, we think -- >> no -- >> no, they are not. >> these are live pictures from logan square. all the people who have been coming here to try to see the pope. earlier this morning, as we said, he was in the basilicas of saints peter and paul. he is now resting at the seminary here in town, and then he's going to go in a few hours to independence hall, where he'll deliver a speech to immigrants, mostly about religious freedom, touching on some of the most important issues that affect, obviously, so many immigrants to this country, at this massively important time. >> and as you pointed out, christiane, not only giving a speech, but doing it from the podium that abraham lincoln himself used for the gettysburg address. and they had to build a special sort of metal support for the podium, because there was fear -- >> it might collapse. >> it gives you chills, actually, to think of that. such an historic, historic piece of equipment, for such an historic speech that was delivered. >> and of course he will be here later tonight, where already there are empty seats behind us, but there are people lined up, waiting to go through a metal detector, waiting to go through security for this event, for the families, which is really, delia gallagher, who's joining us here, our vatican correspondent, and bruce file werfiler, best-s author, it's really an international gathering of the faithful. >> it is. you have to walk down the street and hear all the different languages. you hear a lot of spanish. i'm sure they're coming out in full force for their pope. certainly that's a kind of outreach on the part of the pope. but it's received a great response on the part of the people. i think a lot of immigrants feel some kind of -- as we heard some people say, attraction towards him. >> and bruce filer, this pope, this church has got to feel good so far about how the entire trip to the united states has been, when you consider, especially, this is his first time here. >> you think about what we began the week, monday night, her in washington, d.c., christiane, you were there also, and we were talking about what could go wrong, we were talking about the security, and that's gone great, but we were also talking about his pension for surprise maybe he would break away from the security and reach out. that also hasn't happened. the script has been followed. it's been quite imaginely produced, i would say. it showed some of the rifts in the church. i think, for real, that's there. but i think the messaging from the church's point of view and from the u.s.' point of view has been almost ideal so far. >> and he definitely talked about the challenges of the church, and he's also sort of brought in, not just catholics, not just christians, but jews, muslims as well. particularly, that was shown at ground zero, that interfaith service. but all around, whenever you talk to anybody, whether they are catholic or not, he seems to light their fair. carol costello is down there, not far from where we are, where thousands are getting ready for this concert that will take place later this evening. carol? do you think carol can hear us? it's really noisy. >> i can, i can. i'm sitting in a group of wonderful young people at the world family event and they're going to -- they've been singing for me for the past hourr so. and i'm telling you, it's so peaceful and lovely. because we're waiting hours and hours for pope francis to arrive, but these lovely young people are keeping things interesting and joyful. jordan is here. you guys are from atlanta. you've been here for the past two days. what have you been doing? >> we've been walking around through town, giving books and rosaries and just thinkings to homeless people that they may need. we give them these little packets, teaching them how to pray the rosary and we ask them what they may want us to pray for. and we write it down, and every day, we will pray for those things. >> that's lovely! that's very lovely. so it all culminates when the pope's motorcade comes down benjamin franklin parkway. how will that feel? >> amazing. i honestly don't have words for that. a lot of us here actually skipped our homecoming to be here. >> oh, really? they're high school students, by the way. that's big. that's very big. what about this pope touches you? >> it's just, he connects with all of us, and he loves children and he just -- i don't know what it is about him, was he has this warming feeling, when he looks at you and he smiles, you just feel good. it's just -- it's contagious. >> reporter: i would have to agree with that. you know, everybody i speak to here, christiane and anderson, say that the pope gives them hope that things will get better. he's an optimist and that's what they love about pope francis. >> and that girl just said he loves children. and he's made that a motive of all his travel, even at the vatican, he reaches o out to children. as jesus said, suffer the little children to come unto me. it's about children and about the youngest. and again over at independence hall, the pope will speak, miguel, set the scene for us. there are a lot of people who have been waiting a long time to see the pontiff. >> reporter: thousands of people have been waiting hours and will meet hours more. about 4:30 eastern time is when the pope plans to come down the street. there should be 50 to 60,000 people here when he gets here. it is an absolutely celebration down here at this point, with a band playing. i take it you guys are excited for the pope to get here? >> yeah! >> reporter: the themes the that the pope are going to hit here are immigration and how that is important to the u.s. and he will stand at the cradle of american democracy at independence hall, speaking from the lectern that abraham lincoln used during the gettysburg address speech that will be filled with symbolism and the people of this place are looking very forward to it. anderson? >> yeah, no doubt about that. there is a lot more to talking about. we're going to take a short break, our coverage continues in just a moment. isn't it beautiful when things just come together? build a beautiful website with squarespace. this bale of hay cannot be controlled. when a wildfire raged through elkhorn ranch, the sudden loss of pasture became a serious problem for a family business. faced with horses that needed feeding and a texas drought that sent hay prices soaring, the owners had to act fast. thankfully, mary miller banks with chase for business. and with greater financial clarity and a relationship built for the unexpected, she could control her cash flow, and keep the ranch running. chase for business. so you can own it. suffering from ringing in their ears, there's no such thing as quiet time. but you can quiet the ringing with lipo-flavonoid, the number-one doctor-recommended brand. relieve the ringing with lipo-flavonoid. well, the praise for pope francis is practically draining out painful outcries from the survivors of the church sex abuse scandal. many of them say they feel in a way re-victimized by this visit. many say it brings up a lot of memories, especially after he coura braced bishoped. here's what mark frozi told fredricka whitfield just a short time ago. >> he better not be patting the bishops on the back. his other statement was he realized how the pain in recent years has weighed upon the bishops. are you kidding me? is that a joke? i have three childhood friends who have committed suicide, that, you know, their families are suffering. they have suffered. their entire lives from this tragedy. and it's the church that has turned the back on victims. and they continue to turn their back on victims. >> so this is still a very painful, very open and ongoing wound. becky ayanni is a spokeswoman for those abused by priests known as s.n.a.p. and she's joining us here to talk all about this. becky, as the state representative said there, this feels as a re-victimization, because they don't feel like this pope, despite what he's done, called for a special tribunal, saying that these were crimes, what happened in the church. they don't yet feel that it's being dealt with well enough. >> the other thing he said in st. patrick's, he talked about the bishops' pain. he called this a difficult moment. my abuse is a difficult moment for the bishops? it's a difficult moment for victims. he talked about the bishops' sacrifice, he talked about the bishops' courage. you know, bishops want to have courage, they need to post on their websites the names of all predator priests. they need to go forward and fight with us for the s.o.l.s, not against us. >> the s.o.l.s with, the statute of limitations, which is to extend the statute of limitations, which right now is done by state by state and many bishops feel the statute of limitations is over before they've been able to come forward. >> i didn't come forward until the age of 48, 40 years after my abuse. and that's not unusual. a victim comes forward and they want to find justice and they go to the police and find out they can't charge them criminally or can't file a civil suit. so therefore, what are their choices? so we think that the church should want to make those laws, because that will make children safer. >> tell us what happened to you. >> i was abused by a priest in alexandria, virginia, from the ages of 9 to 11. he was newly ordained, he came to our parish, everybody loved him. i loved him. he befriended our family, he ate dinner at our house, went on vacation with us, bought us our first color television, and used that love and adoration i had for him to start abusing me. >> and how long did it take you to summon the courage to tell your parents or confront the church? >> at the age of 48, i came across a picture of myself with him and everything came flooding back -- >> really, that was the key? >> that was the key. and i remember spending, you know, hours and hours on the bathroom floor, praying to god that i just -- just, please let me die and not wake up in the morning, because it was so painful. and so at that point, i went to the church, hoping they would tell me that it wasn't my fault, that i wasn't going to hell for telling on a priest, because that's what my perpetrator told me, and that i was loved by god. and i didn't get those things from the first priest that i met. so i fell away from god. i fell away from the church. and i was devastated. and i didn't know what to do. so another survivor suggested i call s.n.a.p. >> you know, we just heard from the state representative, who himself was abused when he was 13. he says that he has many friends who were abused by the same priest, who have committed suicide. i mean, who, in their lives -- this is not something that goes -- that ever goes away. >> yes, we have a list of 100 people that have committed suicide. and those are the only ones we know about. and i guess our concern, too is, not just the victims that have come forward, but what about all those other victims out there who are afraid to? >> and anderson and becky and everyone, the statistics lead people to believe that as many as 100,000 children here in the united states have been abused in this manner, and that there have been many suicides, but there just hasn't been the accountability. the statistics show, according to reports, that perhaps 4,0500 priests have these charges against them and only several hundred have been held accountable. it's cost the church hundreds of millions of dollars, and i'm hearing some in s.n.a.p., yourself and maybe some others, feel that there should be firings of a large number of priests and bishops. >> you know, it's -- a priest abuses, and if a bishop would immediately remove that priest and make it public, children would be safer. but instead, they might move him -- >> does that still happen? >> yes, that still happens. >> there was a recent article in the global post that came out that said that there were five incredibly accused proven or admitted abusers who were allowed to go to south america and they are actually working in south america. >> i saw that global post article and it was shocking. >> to me, that's shocking. all those children. and they're not being protected. >> so what must this pope do? >> this pope has to be courageous himself. he can't sit back and say, i'm not going to tell you what to do. he has to demand accountability and he has to fire or publicly dismiss any bishop who endangers children. we have bishop finn, and everyone says, look, he resigned, but he was allowed to resign, but not one person said he resigned because he endangered children. >> it is an incredibly, incredibly divisive and appalling scandal that is one reason why so many catholics have actually lost faith over the last decade plus that this has emerged into the public sphere. as i said, the pope did create -- he's the first one to create a special tribunal to hold those guilty, those charged accountable, but before the first one was going to stand trial, he died. i did ask archbishop joseph kurtz about this. he's the president of the u.s. conference of catholic bishops and this is what he told me, particularly about the issue of moving those priests who had charges against them around, as you said, to parishes outside this country. this is what he told us. >> do you think this pope is a pope who wants to be defined by the culture wars, so to speak? it is almost as if he's saying, these issues of the sexuality, of the social values, yes, we have to deal with them, but actually, there's so much more to deal with in this world. >> he's a man of faith. he wants to point to jesus christ, and he says, i want to see the person before the idea. if you notice, that was a theme in cuba. and he says, you know, the person means that i'm not going to spend all of my energy arguing with someone. i will -- i will be true to my convictions, i'll be a son of the church, as he says it, i'm not changing church teaching, but he says, i truly want to engage and learn from that person, and i want to make sure that everyone is welcome. his talks yesterday, he must have said it three dozen times. he said, the message of christ salvation is meant for all of us, for everyone. and then he said, no one is to be excluded. so he really, i think, is asking us to see that person. and i do believe that brings out the best in people. if cheers are any indication, and we saw a lot of it, including from our brother bishops, that's a sign that he's touching a cord with people. and i kind of like that. >> let me ask you about the message to the bishops, because it was the first time, i don't know if it will be the only time, that he deals with the issue of the sexual abuse scandal in the church, which has rocked this church to the point that it sent people out of the church. and of course, the pope wants to bring people back to the church. >> exactly. >> he addressed them as crimes. >> he did. >> and he said, this must never happen again. >> he did. >> but the problem is that many of the victims, many of the victims' groups say that, actually, even the existing laws, the existing protections are not being properly implemented. that there are lots of priests who have been accused, who have just been removed from their diocese or their parishes in the united states and sent over to those in latin america. global post did a big investigation on that. what do you say to people who say the pope is still not doing this tough enough. is still not taking a tough enough stance? >> well, he uses the term "healing." and i think he looks at each person who may be harmed by what he rightly calls a crime, a crime of abuse. he talks to the bishops about restoring authority and trust. he uses the word trust. so once again, i think he's focusing on the individual. and each individual is going to be unique. we know that. but the harm done can only be undone by healing. and so, i believe our holy father is reaching out to people. i can say -- i can't speak for every country in the world or even every diocese in the united states, but within the archdiocese of louisville that we serve, we really are intent humbly, but we really are intent in addressing issues. there's no one who is serving within the archdiocese who -- no priest or layperson, leader, who has a credible charge of abuse against them. that's something we should all be doing. and i believe that's the direction that we're going on. and our holy father is very, very strong on that. but he does emphasize healing. and the fact that we do need to listen to one another. >> so that was archbishop joseph kurtz, the archbishop of louisville, kentucky. and there have been questions. we've questioned the vatican about whether the pope will meet with victims and we've been told, maybe. maybe here in philadelphia. we're still waiting to see who that happens. >> becky, wanted to the priest who abused you? >> he committed suicide in 1992 after another victim of his approached him. >> so when he was confronted by another victim -- >> after he was confronted by another victim, he went to a monastery and said he would talk to the victim when he got back and he shot himself with a shotgun. >> that was in 1992? >> yes, that's correct. >> appreciate you being with us and speaking about your experiences. thank you so much. >> thank you for having me. >> yeah. there is a lot more to come from here in philadelphia. a lot of events ahead. we will bring them all to you, all of them to you says they happen. right now, let's go back to fredricka. >> some powerful words on a very sensitive topic. and in my conversation with representative rossi, he said he made it very clear that he will not sb separating the pope's visit there to philadelphia, not until he hears something much more concrete in his view, and that means those who have abused children over the years, those priests, instead of receiving pensions, they say, they should be receiving prison time. all right, we're keeping a close watch on the visit of the pope there in philadelphia and other developing stories today, including house speaker john boehner sending shock waves through washington, announcing that he's giving up the gavel next month. straight ahead, what some republican presidential candidates are saying. can a business have a mind? 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reason for the appeal behind these so-called outsider candidates that we've within talking about for the past several months. the republican voters don't want to see a politician go to the white house right now, because they're fed up with politicians in washington, including their own leadership in congress, fred. >> all right, athena jones, thanks so much. keep us posted there from iowa city. so john boehner says his decision the step down had nothing to do with his emotional meeting with the pope earlier in the week. joining me right now, douglas brinkley, cnn presidential historian. good to see you, douglas. >> nice to see you. >> so as athena just helped remind us, in some gop circles, there is cheering. others a kind of scratching their heads. and then from the president of the united states, we saw some real compassion. so boehner said that he's out. and i'm quoting him now, where he says, you know, it's as simple as that. but in your view, is it that simple? >> well, it's not that simple. the writing's been on the wall for some time now. being the speaker of the house is not a luxurious job. you just get beat up by all sides, all the time, really since tip o'neill, none of the speakers have survived, but particularly, speaker boehner has a difficult time, because the right wing of his party constantly wants to hammer away at barack obama as being the worst president ever, and he's trying to get deals done, and he hasn't really had a very successful tenure as speaker. he's just turned 65. the pope came to town and he was one of the reasons that pope francis spoke at congress. so i think the timing turns out to be about right, but he really doesn't have too many people that thought he should stay. >> and then, in terms of possible successors, it was even john boehner who said, you know, he thinks house majority leader kevin mccarthy might be an easy shoo-in, but i wonder once he has made his endorsement, that now undermines any kind of leverage mccarthy may have had among the others. >> well, paul ryan of wisconsin, one of the great stars of the republican party, very smartly said, i don't want anything to do with the speakership. kevin mccarthy pay get it, but he's a very polarizing figure. he's somebody of the hard right. he's wanted to, for example, in california, get 3 million acres of national forest and wilderness and open it up for extraction and drilling. and you know, he's going to be a deeply controversial speaker, but hence -- this is the same old story. the outsiders and the insiders. boehner is seen too much of an insider, and the people really cheering his demise here, people like the clips you just played. donald trump for fiorina and ben carson and the rest. >> so there have been many who criticized that john boehner didn't do enough to, you know, go to the white house, to talk with the president or to try to nudge him or persuade him. yet the flip side to that is that perhaps, you know, he was a little bit too hard, you know, that there were some very, you know, terse, you know, kind of language associated with to the relationship between boehner and the president. so, which is it, in your view, in terms of, you know, what that legacy, of the relationship between the house speaker and the white house, what would be written about that relationship? >> well, i think disappointment about the relationship. many people dreamed it would be a tip o'neill/ronald reagan situation where things could get done. instead, i think once obamacare got pushed through early in president obama's first term, you know, boehner was always -- the congress couldn't stand anything that had the name "obama" with it, and boehner really didn't want to be in a photo op with the president. if he went golfing with him, he got ridiculed by his own party. >> or the beer summit. >> yeah, the beer summit, all this. it didn't really work for boehner, because his own party, the hard right in his party would savage him for such things. >> 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remember the stranger. that is a message drirectly to the immigrants of this country. >> and the issue of religious freedom is very timely, not only here in the united states, but all around the world. >> there's another connection to the moses reference, which is that religious freedom for the pope is, yes, freedom to express religious sentiment and to practice your religion given by governments, but for the pope, the government's job is to protect religious freedom. the person that gives religious freedom is god. and so that's where the pope comes in and says, you know, governments have to protect us, we have to do this, but we are free by virtue of the fact that we are created by god and that leads into a whole other series of, yoush, creative possibilities for society. >> and he spoke so clearly about the most horrific experiences that we're witnessing over in the middle east right now. the atrocities, he said, committed to the name of religion and even god. >> i thought that was the highlight of the u.n. speech, where he talked about freedom for christians throughout the middle east. >> and in the congress, too. it's amazing. >> i'm told we do have contact with rosa flores again. and as we said, the excitement is palpable out in the streets and people are waiting out in the sun, waiting for hours. many have slept in the locations where they're at, but you don't hear people complaining. there is joy on people's faces. rosa, i'm sure you're seeing that out there as well. >> reporter: well, you know, very little sleep has happened here. i want to set the scene for you, anderson. because if you look this way, as far as your eye can see, there are thousands of people. now, there's so much emotion here, a lot of us have not slept. they are on little food, little sleep, but they are going, because the emotion is very high. they are hoping and waiting for pope francis to arrive here and celebrate mass with the pontiff. now, for the world meeting of families, 17,000 families registered. and this is the biggest world meeting of families event that has ever happened. but, again, lots of excitement here. and i'll be here with the crowd, hoping to bring you a little more color from the stands. anderson? 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