Host what is the thread that connects all these topics. Guest one of the great things as journalist you can do anything you want. Im not a scholar. I dont have a specialty. Having said that there is a connection. I fells i would say its america after world war ii. This country really coming into its own as this global power, this supreme power, really. That fascinated me, and what is it like to be a leader in this world thats your world, your time, your world. So that drew me initially to the wisemen which i did with Walter Isaacson, and then john paul jones, couple centuries before, but even he is a study in leadership, and i just im fascinated by the burdens of leadership, because its hard. Its harder than we think. And im fascinated by what its like to be a man usually men obvious live we Sandra Day Oconnor, but up to her, men. And human fallibility and weak in enormous pressures. How do they handle it . Well, some really well and some bravely and some not so well but its the pressu