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Transcripts for MSNBC Deadline White House 20240604 20:19:00

Once i think we re all just going to be digging through this when it is, if it comes, to see what s there. but there could be more than one thing or one thing or several. and bragg s playing this obviously very close to the vest. but on monday we re going to see, there could be another delay or they could come back, the grand jury could come back, there could be another witness or there could be a vote and that may goi] quickly■3 or it m not. but i think monday isg mara, please stick around. when we come back jim jordan s fishing expedition continues. the chairçó of the so-called weaponization committee asking for evidence from a former prosecutor. we re going to talk to someone who literally wrote the book on donald trump s potentialñr culpability. plus ron desantis trying to step into the national5a■ spotlight m his comfortable perch in florida realizing it might not be as

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Transcripts for MSNBC Deadline White House 20240604 21:16:00

Donald trump part of the republican party which is now the majority of the republican party. so if he has any future in anything, and even getting just take the most craft thing, a paid speeches in front of people, he is afraid that he is going to be completely ostracized by that part of the party. i don t think mike pence has come to terms that most people can t stand him anyway. and donald trump really can t stand him as he evidenced by all of that. i fundamentally, the moral heart felt question you asked which i think is poignantly important is i don t know the answer to it. i think deep in mike pence s heart, he knows the truth of this. but he s afraid of the republican base. congresswoman, the 1/6 committee ended work by referring criminal charges for the ex-president. how confident are you that he will be held accountable for his

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Transcripts for MSNBC Deadline White House 20240604 20:42:00

What it tells me, he s willing to use the power of the stateñio cover up his own behavior. and i m just not sure that shielding himself, opting for secrecy, shutting the public, the taxpayers out, is going to play as well as some of his other anti-media initiatives have. and i would, by the way, like to agree with mara çóvery, very mu, but i am not strangely comforted by what is happening here. i am having ptsdok flashbacks t 2016 as i watch donald trump move aahead because our politics are not normal anymore. they have you know, the republican party has gone down this weird rabbit hole and apparently ite1 just cannot qui donald trump and i just don t see the will on the part of other republicans to do what needs to be donee1 to take on donald trump. so i think that we need to gird that even though it is early we have seen this movie

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Transcripts for MSNBC Deadline White House 20240604 20:09:00

Had an armed man try to breach an fbi field officei] in cincinnati. a subsequent scrub of his socia( mediaxd revealedok a trail of threats in the aftermath of that search. my question too is is law enforcement aware that trump may be igniting a similar flame in the leadup to this indictment over the past couple of days? i certainly think and there s indications they are with reporting of the security planning going on just to handle the security concerns around thise1 potentiale1 indictment.xd so look, law enforcement agencies have learned a lesson regarding acting on available intelligence with regard to>c january 6th. and i think they re going to be doing that, i believe they re engaged in active intelligence collection right now. the problem is the longer this goes on and on and by the way, we re all here talking about this all week because donald trump said he d bee1 indicted tuesday and there was absolutely no basis in fact.ñr but it s given him an

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Transcripts for MSNBC Deadline White House 20240604 21:37:00

Nbc news he is focused on the economy and bolstering budget proposals while his team monitors trump s calls for protests. the other side of all of this is vastly different. trump has falsely publicly claimed he was going to be arrested two days ago while reporting by nbc tells us he is trying to benefit politically by creating a media spectacle with a, quote, war room mentality. now permeating his mar-a-lago home and nerve center of his 2024 campaign. let s bring in cornell belcher and research and msnbc contributor matt dowd is still with us. speak to what biden s silence means in the manhattan d.a. case and in the work of the broader justice department. such a contrast to somebody like trump who never hesitates to pressure officials to get his way even as a former president and as a president he would weigh in on things that people would have preferred him to stay out of. right. well, there is two problems

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