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Transcripts for CNN Anderson Cooper 360 20240604 00:02:00

Nato is a historic step that benefits the security of all nato allies at this critical time. it makes us all stronger and safer. on russia, of course, there was the stunning claim by the kremlin s top spokesperson that vladimir putin met with yevgeny prigozhin five days after the wagner mercenary boss led an armed insurrection, overran a major city, shot down aircraft and began marching toward moscow. that claim notwithstanding, we have not seen prigozhin in public since the 24th last month. we re going to talk about all of this with the former cia chief of russia operations, the lifting the veil on vladimir putin s secret train. cnn s matthew chance did the reporting and joins us from london. this is really fascinating. what have you learned? reporter: remarkably little is known about vladimir putin s private life or about how he travels around his vast country, which makes this incredible trove of photographs and documents that was gathered by the dossier, which is a russian

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Transcripts for CNN Anderson Cooper 360 20240604 00:04:00

Paint work and grime. state media was once allowed inside, recording president putin, meeting transport officials in a sump yous board room, the other carriages updated as recently as last year have remained a closely guarded secret until now. sir con service is a russian company that builds what it calls elite wagons for its clients, specializing in luxury designs for private or state corporations, of course the kremlin. among a trove of documents, including blueprints, letters and image, obtained exclusively by the russian investigative dossier center and shared with cnn is one from zircon service daylight dated august of 2018, noting a test run for the sport s health run that s been ordered. accompanying photos show what the dossier says is putin s private gym on board the train.

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Transcripts for CNN Anderson Cooper 360 20240604 00:10:00

So i think this is meeting, again, i don t have any classified intelligence, but i m sure this meeting was an attempt to get him back on board while his forces, the wagner group are being disbursed and, in fact, sort of broken up, being told, hey, they ve got to join the russian military or get away from the wagner group so there is confusion within that force. steve, it was june 24th that putin called the leaders of the rebellion, which would include prigozhin traitors on television. now the spokesperson is saying fo five days later he met with prigozhin and on russian state television, they re putting out all of this video on the raids on prigozhin s property. looking at his wigs, money, and all the guns he has, which i assume comes with the kremlin stamp of approval for all of that video to be out there, then to be sort of trying to tear him down as a populist. how do you read all of this?

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Transcripts for CNN Anderson Cooper 360 20240604 00:11:00

so, anderson, i think the best way to read it is perhaps looking at the target audiences for these individual activities. it really doesn t matter whether or not this ridiculous meeting happened or not. by the way, we don t have information except from mr. peskov, who is known for not stating the truth. but it doesn t matter. it s the message putin and the kre kremlin want to get out. there s great concern that the kremlin and putin himself, that prigozhin might have gotten a grip or found a niche for himself inside the russian population. remember the themes he was talking about, my boys are being killed, don t have enough guns and ammo, regardless of the fact that he was using them as fodder. that s something the russian people care about. we saw that two decades ago in the chechnyaen situation was going down, and the mothers of those killed started to protest in the streets and it was a serious problem. they have to do something about that. what they do is say, look, putin was bas

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Transcripts for CNN Anderson Cooper 360 20240604 00:03:00

Investigative group and shared with cnn all the more fascinating with the revelations it brings out about that train, and about how vladimir putin is treated behind closed doors. a rare glimpse inside putin s secret train, with leaked documents showing to cnn. how the kremlin leader travels amid increasingly tight security and luxury. he s surrounded by enemies, and psychologically, he wants to feel protected. reporter: from outside, train number one seems ordinary its heavily armored carriages perfectly disguised with russian

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