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"nightly news" begins right now. >> announcer: this is "nbc nightly news" with lester holt, reporting tonight from the olympic summer games in rio. >> good evening from the olympic park in baja. americans with a chance to increase their medal count in just a moment. let's begin with what police in florida are calling an unimaginable accident, the fatal shooting of a civilian volunteer as she took part in a police academy training drill, the 74-year-old woman seen moments before she was killed when real bullets were somehow fired in what was supposed to be a demonstration. how does something like that happen? keri sanders tonight from punta gorda with late details. >> reporter: 73-year-old mary knowlton a retired librarian, married 55 years with her husband, gary, just moments after they attended a community event on tuesday, gary witnessed in disbelief as this punta gorda police officer dressed as a criminal during a role playing exercise shot gary's wife, first in the shoulder and then a second fatal shot to her chest. mary's son, steve, describes what her father saw. >> it was surreal. at first we thought she just fell down and the turned her over and that's when they saw the bullet holes. total pandemonium trying to do cpr and keep her alive. >> reporter: by all accounts, it was tragic accident. the revolver was not supposed to have live ammunition. they had gathered at a public complex for a citizen's safety class much like this one. >> get your hands up. >> reporter: demonstrating a shoot don't shoot scenario, mary was cast as a cop witnesses say chaos ensued after a police officer playing the bad guy aimed a loaded firearm at her and fired. >> i know chen when she hit the ground i looked over at the police chief and saw the anxiety and panic and horror in his face and that's when i knew this was serious. >> reporter: tonight, the officer, lee cole, a two-year veteran is on paid leave. earlier this year, controversy surrounded officer cole after a man sued the city, the police department claiming cole and his k-9 seen in this video went too far after a traffic arrest. >> reporter: her son said he attended partly to show support by the police, like officer cole. >> we forgive you. i know that my mom forgives you and nobody means for this to happen. nobody. >> reporter: tonight, everyone who witnessed the shooting is being offered grief counseling including the officer who fired the fatal shot. a state investigation is now underway to determine how bullets instead of blanks wound up in that pistol. lester. >> hard to imagine how it happened. keri sanders tonight in florida, thank you. let's turn now to rio, a little wet weather, not dampening the mood after another golden performance for team usa. before adding to the medal count today, it was an historic night in the pool, the biggest stars, michael phelps and katie ledecky both solidifying their spot in olympic history. michael phelps the most decorated olympian of all time and they're both back in the pool tonight. nbc's miguel almaguer has the latest for us. >> reporter: today on the road, the gold rush continues for team usa. >> that's a gold medal for kristin armstrong. >> kristin armstrong, the time trial her third consecutive win. >> the third one by far was the hardest journey. >> reporter: on the beach the games went on in the rain but in the water, conditions too windy and postponed for the day. for all the concern of rio's water in the boy, -- bay, it was the pool that looked like a swamp after chinese divers dove for gold in water that was green today the chemical balance blamed for a murky pool and olympic organizers say it's safe. ranked number one, serena williams was bounced out by number 20, the queen of the court out in a stunner. the so-called final five, twisting, turning, vaulting to gold. >> it's so amazing, especially to share it with al these girls, they are like my old er sisters, like i won a gold medal with my olympic family. >> looks like she will win another gold and she does. >> reporter: for katie ledecky, back to the top. gold in the 200 and gold in the 400 and now the 800 meter free. for michael phelps, redemption in the 200 meter butterfly. a win after losing to rival, chad le clos in london. >> there was so much emotion and build up to that race after four years. i don't want to say it was revenge but that's kind of what it was. >> reporter: the night cap was a victory lap for phelps and his team. gold in the relay, the 21st of his career. a moment in history, one his son won't remember but one this father will never forget. tonight, michael phelps and ryan lochte will be swimming in a semi final event and a busy aquatic center and meanwhile security was stepped up, media hit with rocks and they're urging people to be cautious as they leave this beautiful venues. >> miguel almaguer, thanks so much. after five days of competition, we want to take a quick look at the leaderboard, team usa holding the top spot during the day leading with gold medals, 10, total medals with 28. china, 20 total medals so far and japan winning 17 medals overall. to presidential politics now, donald trump was out on t campaign trail today as was hillary clinton the day after trump sparked an uproar with comments quote second amendment people could act against hillary clinton. trump is now defending those comments and clinton herself is weighing in for the first time as she faces a new e-mail controversy. we have it all covered with nbc's katy tur, katy, good evening. >> hey there, lester. donald trump is on defense. the report out today, the secret service spoke to him about those comment, both trump and u.s. officials denying that, but those words are not going away. 89 days before the election and donald trump isn't making life easy for himself, forced to clarify his own words again, denying he was inciting physical harm against hillary clinton. >> if she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks, although the second amendment people, maybe there is, i don't know. >> reporter: tonight, he was saying he was talking about votes, not violence. >> you look at power they have in terms of votes. that's what i was referring to, obviously that's what i was referring to. everybody knows it. >> reporter: the campaign took to the air waves to push back. >> with a crowd like that, if that's what they thought he meant they would have gone wild. >> reporter: trump said he doesn't insight violence. >> knock the crap out of him. >> try not to hurt him. if you do, i'll defend you in court. >> the audience hit back and that's what we need a little more of. >> reporter: the audience growing weary and the poll showing college educated whites are moving overwhelmingly to clinton in ohio, pennsylvania and iowa. clinton argued today trump's words matter. >> yesterday, we witnessed the latest in a long line of casual comments from donald trump that crossed the line. >> reporter: tonight, the gop is in a bind. stick by a flailing candidate or cut him off by redirecting funding to senate seats. >> cutting loose your presidential nominee can cause a lot of more damage as a free agent untethered from the rnc. katy tur, nbc, sunrise, florida. >> i'm kristen welker in iowa where hillary clinton is trying to cut into donald trump's turf working class voters. >> friends don't let friends vote for trump. >> reporter: a conservative advocacy group raising fresh questions about the relationship between the clinton foundation and secretary clinton's state department, one dated 2009, a clinton foundation executive e-mailed secretary clinton's top advisors, huma abedin and cheryl mills requesting they setup a meeting between a millionaire donor and ambassador to lebanon. this is very important they said. and critics have pounds on the foundation whether that bought access to the state department. >> it's called "pay for play." >> reporter: last year, bill clinton defending the foundation to cynthia mcfadden. >> we have never done anything knowingly inappropriate in terms of taking money to influence any government policy. >> reporter: tonight the clinton campaign telling nbc news, these new e-mails don't relat to the foundation's work and say the donor never met with the ambassador. the campaign also on defense tonight about why the father of the orlando nightclub shooter was seated behind clinton at an orlando rally. >> he is a very radical islamic extremist, what's drawing him to hillary clinton? >> reporter: the campaign says clinton disavows his views and support. >> behind the scenes a lot of clinton advisors know these are the kind of controversies that can put the spotlight back on hillary clinton and away from donald trump. >> reporter: the clinton campaign is trying to keep the spotlight on donald trump today announcing a new initiative aimed at recording republican and independent voters, secretary clinton writing an op-ed in red utah and in it she cites former mitt romney former republican nominee. lester. >> kristen welker in iowa tonight, thank you. there is a jaw-dropping spectacle catching the nation's attention this evening, a man scaling the trump tower in new york with suction cups, many watching it player out on television. police on the scene trying to coral him inside. rehema ellis there live for us. rehema, what can you tell us? >> reporter: lester, i can tell you moments ago, that man was corralled inside a window of trump tower by members of the emergency service unit. i know we've got some pictures to show you. the members of the emergency service unit called the navy seal of the nypd, this man's name unknown motives unclear, got about one-third of the way of trump's 60-stories was captured by authorities this afternoon and memorizing people from the city of new york for hours also snarling traffic in the area. authorities tried to bring him inside the building when he was around the 16th floor but he evaded authorities by moving from one side of the building to another. they broke out windows of the building and saw he tried to get through to duck authorities but again, he was able to be commandeered and brought into the building just moments ago, lester. >> glad it ended safely. thank you. high anxiety in new york. a scathing new report out tonight from the justice department says police in baltimore have lost the trust of the community and they say it's because of a history of racial discrimination and how the law is enforced. the city is now responding and our justice correspondent, pete williams has details. >> launched in the aftermath of community outrage over freddie gray's death in police custody, the civil rights investigation found that officers in the baltimore police department routinely stop, search and arrest african-american residents for no good reason. >> these violations have deeply eroded the trust between bpd and the community it serves that is essential to public as well as to officer and public safety. >> reporter: over the past five years police have stopped over 300,000 pedestrians in african-american neighborhoods on little or no suspicion of law breaking often frisking them, and even strip-searching some in public. one man in his 50s was stopped 30 times but never given so much as a ticket. this man says he tried hard to avoid interacting with police. >> despite that i had a couple dozen instances with law enforcement i'm pretty sure were predicated on the fact i'm a young black man. >> reporter: the report says police too often resort to excessive force even when there's no danger to officers or other. the mayor, who asked for the civil rights investigation says it will help lead to reforms. >> i believe transparency is the only true foundation upon which we can rebuild community trust. >> reporter: city officials say it could cost up to $10 million a year to change the way police are trained, equipped and supervised but say they are willing to make the changing this blistering report calls for. pete williams, nbc news, baltimore. still ahead, she was an olympic darling four years ago, can missy franklin pull off an amazing comeback in rio? we're back from rio, where missy franklin, one of the biggest stars of the london games has struggled here. some disappointing results, helped team usa clinch a spot in the 200 relay. and we caught back up with her since we last saw missy on the olympic podium. >> it's going to be a world record for missy franklin. >> reporter: in london, it seemed like missy franklin never got out of the water. >> her first individual, yes! >> reporter: competing in a record seven events, winning gold four times. >> i still wake up and i'm like, did that really happen? are you sure? am i just dreaming about it? that pride and honor, it's with me every single day. >> reporter: this day, dick and deanne franklin get choked up thinking about it. >> your child's face is on the jumbotron and the flag is going up on the rafters, you can't imagine how much that pulls at you. >> i saw the tears starting to roll down her cheeks. that's when we lost it. >> reporter: the last four years began with college, studying at uc berkeley, swimming and sometimes dancing with her team. missy turned pro and was back in colorado two years later, trying to recreate the same magic formula that prepared her for london. >> coming back to my coach, my family, having all these things kind of reminded me what i was able to do before and helped me believe in myself i could do it again. >> reporter: it hasn't been perfect. missy injured her back in 2014 and struggled at olympic trials. >> franklin will finish second and punch a ticket to rio. >> reporter: she's had a rough start in rio as well. >> missy franklin in trouble, second from the bottom, has to close some ground here. >> reporter: after not qualifying for the 300 freestyle she tweeted so heartbroken by my results last night, doing everything i can to keep my head up and keep fighting with all i have. it's a determination and discipline we saw first hand in colorado. is it hard for you to come to lunch and have people -- mmm -- >> thanks for that. you know what? this cucumber, all right? >> reporter: don't let that lighthearted laugh fool you. this fierce competitor even as a kid, wouldn't settle for second, is not giving up yet. stephanie gosk, nbc news, rio. >> we're back in a moment with a new treat from the girl scouts. there is sad news tonight from the world of sports and broadcasting, the loss of long-time espn broadcaster john saunders who hosted sports reporters for the last 15 years, a cause of death was not announced. saunders was just 61 years old. espn's president called his accomplishments among the most impressive this industry has ever seen. in happier news, a sweet surprise unveiled by the girl scouts that will leave you wanting s'more, the brand-new flavor in their brand new irresistible line of cookies coming to a doorstep near you next door, next year, i should say. next, 21 gold medals and counting, how we watched michael phelps grow through the years. we'll be back. finally, he is arguably the biggest star in rio. michael phelps, the most decorated olympian ever through five olympics america has watched him grow and change into a dominant athlete, think about this, whose achievements may never be topped. a look at his remarkable journey. >> reporter: in a sport that's unforgiving, michael phelps has become unforgettable. >> michael phelps resume gets even more incredible in this night on rio. >> reporter: far from that 15-year-old who first stepped on the blocks in sidney and in athens only dreamed of dominance. phelps at 31 just became the oldest swimmer to win an individual olympic gold, one of 25 medals around his neck, 21 gold. he's been growing that collection more than a decade and remarkably keeping pace with his younger self-. his butterfly last night only about a second behind his time eight years ago. one of phelps teammates sharing the podium with him last night was only 3 when the icon made his olympic debut. >> it's incredible. it's so hard for me to put into words. >> reporter: with a legacy built on speed, phelps now relies on power and endurance focusing on shorteder races and acknowledging his recovery time is longer than it was. >> it will take time for him to do that. >> reporter: for a young boy with ahdd, from london and rio, americans watched phelps stumble in the spotlight. >> you have four years to build up and you're at this peek and you kind of roll down the hill. >> reporter: those dizzying heights giving way to depression and unflattering headlines. every time, phelps came back stronger, as memorable as his victories at rio, the heartfelt celebrations that follow, phelps being a father greeted his son. >> i wanted to be with him more. being able to share that one moment i had with him something very special. >> reporter: delivering a statement about staying power as an athlete and maturity as a man. nbc news, rio. >> we are watching history here. that is going to do it for us on this wednesday, nbc primetime olympic coverage begins at 8:00, 7:00 central. i'm lester holt. for all of us at nbc news, thank you for watching and good night from rio. a murder at a popular san francisco mall. what we're learning tonight about a body that ended up in a stairwell at bloomingdale's. the news at 6:00 starts right now. thanks for joining us this wednesday. i'm janelle wang. >> i'm raj mathai. it's one of the bay area's busiest shopping malls. tonight it's also a crime scene. at this hour, police are still at the bloomingdale's inside san francisco's westfield shopping center. they found the body this morning and suspect foul play. the westfield center is right on market street near union square. the bloomingdales is on the back side facing mission street. damian trujillo is on the scene for us. >> reporter: raj, this is actually the back entrance to bloomingdale's on jesse street east here in san francisco. but we've been able to confirm that the homicide actually happened behind these doors here behind bloomingdale's. this is actually the stairwell to this shopping center here in san francisco. when a security guard opened one of those doors, you could see crime scene tape along the stairwell. it is believed the homicide investigators are still inside. we did see one leave just a short while ago. police are not saying much about this homicide. they will -- we do know that the medical examiner determined the death was no accident. police will not say how the person died, and have yet to identify the victim. they also haven't said if they have a suspect, but there are several surveillance camera in the area and no doubt investigators are looking at that footage. those investigators do have a description o
New-yorkUnited-statesJapanChadBrazilFloridaChinaPunta-gordaWestfield-centerOhioLebanonLondon unsuccessful. as far as mr. khan, i think it's been said by everybody, i think that's been very well talked about, and that's been put to bed a long time ago. >> sure. but do you agree with your friend, carl icahn, that you made a mistake? >> you'll have to define what a mistake means. we're not here to talk about that. we're here to talk about economics. >> do you think it's appropriate to call the sitting president of the united states the founder of a terrorist organization that wants to kill americans? >> he was a founder of isis. absolutely. he was the founder, absolutely the founder. in fact, he gets the -- in sports, they have awards. he gets the most valuable player award. he and hillary. there's something wrong with saying that? why are people complaining saying he was the founder of isis? >> so nbc's katy tur in miami beach, florida, following the trump campaign joining me now. 89 days until election day. how are party insiders characterizing trump's election pivot? >> reporter: they're not characterizing it as a pivot. i think all hopes for donald trump to pivot to being someone who is a little more presidential, not one who is making outrageous headlines, has -- that hope is long gone. right now it's what are they going to do about donald trump's candidacy in light of the senate races and how do they adjust in order to make sure they are protecting their down ballot candidates so they don't lose their majorities in the house and the senate. donald trump pivoting -- the hope for that, thomas, is just no longer a realistic hope. last night you heard him talking about hillary clinton and president obama being co founders of isis. this morning he doubled down again on cnbc. he did it again on hugh hewitt, troubling down on this idea they are somehow linked or responsible for or founding a terrorist organization. he keeps making headlines about one republican operative saying it would be better if donald trump just went dark, didn't say anything at all so all the focus could go back to hillary clinton and the scandals involving her, including that e-mail scandal, which is getting less attention, because donald trump keeps saying outrageous things, instead of capitalizing on what could benefit him. that being said, donald trump doesn't seem to think there is anything wrong with how he is approaching things. listen to how he described his campaign and how he feels about his prospects to hugh hewitt. >> as far as temperament is concerned, i've always been -- i've always been -- it's always been stated that i have the great temperament, because i have a winning temperament. i've been winning all of my life and that's what i do, is win. >> reporter: so that's what he said. he's not going to change the way he's done things, because so far, his temperament and his strategy has worked. he reiterated he beat all of those other contenders during the primary. he concedes that the polling is not necessarily on his side at this moment. but the campaign and donald trump believing that the polling is tightening, although we have little evidence to see that at the moment. there's 89 days, as you said, until the election and the campaign believes they have a chance to turn it around. but not necessarily if you talk to republican operatives who say a pivot is just not in the cards. >> katy, donald trump speaking before the national association of home builders convention. this should be some home turf for donald trump, being the real estate magnet that he says he is. nbc's katy at your tur. we've got a column inconsistent for "the washington post. of" good to have you with me. let's go back to the cnbc interview. of trump also appeared to signal that he may very well lose this race to hillary clinton. so take a listen to these two bites. >> whatever happens, happens. i'm giving it straight. i don't know that it will work, because i am a nonpolitical person and i'm proud of that. but i'm giving it straight. all i do is tell the truth. and if at the end of 90 days i fall in short because i'm somewhat politically correct, even though i'm supposed to be the smart one and even though i'm supposed to have a lot of good ideas, it's okay. you know, i go back to a very good way of life. >> yeah, so he was like it's either going to work or i'm going to have a very nice long vacation. what do you make of that interview? >> i think it's astonishing for a guy who is always attacking losers to actually open the door. and at least it shows that some sense of the reality in the outside world is penetrating. because right now, of course, it does look like he's going to lose. incidentally, thomas, i thought you wrote what would be the epitaph of the trump campaign if he did lose. you said at the beginning, it is unknown if trump is going to go off-script. and i do think it's astonishing. it's one of the reasons he has trouble. because we're watching all of these events. and what we're really waiting for is some new outrageous thing that trump is going to say, which is keeping all the attention on him in a negative way. so he is right to be worried that he's going to lose in 90 days. >> i like the fact you pointed that out. because i did write that. i personally wrote that in here. and yes, it is unknown and we are going to be watching closely to see how he handles this. as i pointed out with katy, his home turf. let's talk about the person behind donald trump at that rally, got a lot of attention. that happened to be the former florida congressman, mark foley. so i've known mark for years, covered mark back in -- a different network and what happened with him, why he left congress for the e-mail situation with pages and inappropriate messages. so i texted with him last night, i asked him, for the record, are you a trump supporter, voting for him? his response, yes, he's been a friend of mine for 30 years and one of my biggest contributors. so nbc news, we went back and looked at the financials of '97 to 2006 for what donald trump donated. tallies up to 8500 bucks to foley s. there apples to apples comparison, donald trump talking about the orlando shooter's dad behind her at a rally and now mark foley behind donald trump? is that fair for these apples to apples comparisons being made? >> it is apples to apples, but in both cases irrelevant. i'm not sure you can hold a candidate responsible for who shows up at a rally, if they're invited or made part of the proceedings maybe. but i'm not sure we can hold hillary clinton or donald trump as somehow endorsing or embracing these two people because they showed up at the rallies, although it does seem both are supporting the candidates they showed up to see. of. when it comes to khan, you know, he had every right to be there if he wanted to be the. clinton folks say he had no cooperation to be part of that. foley gave a statement last night saying he got there early, he was not a guest of the campaign. i asked him for clarification on that, he didn't respond to that point of my question. but are people really -- is it the crowd you hang around with? let me ask you. are you, you know, the company you keep? >> well, i think the problem for the trump campaign with the foley story is they attacked the clinton campaign because somebody shows up at a rally and then all of a sudden when somebody else who is somewhat embarrassing to the trump campaign shows up at a rally, they use all the same excuses and arguments that clinton made they dismissed the day before. and so i think the significance of this mainly is that it shows there is hypocrisy in politics, there was hypocrisy in their attack on clinton, and nick said, people show up at your rally who want to show up at your rally. and you don't campaigns screening people. that gets you into all kinds of trouble. i want rallies for politicians to be open to everybody. >> nick, you wanted to say? >> i just say, you know, if perhaps the trump campaign should spend less time keeping journalists out of the rallies, they may look more closely at who is showing up. >> from that rally, though, donald trump took hillary clinton and the e-mail situation, judicial watch, releasing the new batch of e-mails linking some type of indication or whiff of improprie impropriety. take a listen to donald trump. >> today we had a very, very big thing going on, all over this country. and it's called pay for play. you saw this. new e-mails come out. new e-mails. how do you think hillary would feel if e-mails were never invented? would she be happy? >> now we know donald trump does not e-mail. but ej, let me start with you. pay for play. trump admits, he paid everybody from democrats to republican to line their pockets and to have access to them. as a businessman. and now he's going after hillary clinton. is this a decent line of attack for him? >> well, you know, first of all, there -- donald trump recited one line i finally agree with, which is that hillary clinton would be happy if e-mail were never invented. and i suspect at this point in the campaign, that's absolutely true. >> we would all agree with that. >> exactly. >> i would agree with that. it would make all of our lives a lot easier. >> it's true. i think that the -- probably, if you look at all of these stories, the one that i suspect has some legs over time is the clint foundation, and as far as i can tell, isn't evidence of nasty pay for play. but i suspect that when you have a family foundation raising a lot of money and hillary clinton and secretary of state, it's inevitable there are going to be some contacts somewhere, and the opposition is going to be able to make a lot of it. i think if she were to be elected, i think they've got to figure out a way of building. here's where trump's wall comes in. i think they need to build a gigantic wall between the clinton foundation and the white house. >> and just to be -- >> i think that trump, as we have said all week, whatever mileage they can get out of any of these stories, they just can't even move on to that road, because of all of the stuff trump is saying, particularly that second amendment comment. >> we know that the fbi has never confirmed or denied the fact that it's looking into any type of impropriety or connection between state and the clinton foundation. and certainly, folks are going to ask for all kinds of favors if they think you can actually help them out. we'll see if there is more to come of this. nick, ej, thank you very much for joining me today. again, we're still waiting on that speech from donald trump, again, appearing at the national association of home builders. you see it set up. we'll bring it live as soon as it happens. plus -- >> words can have tremendous consequences. yesterday we witnessed the latest in a long line of casual comments from donald trump that cross the line. so hillary clinton continuing to slam trump's latest remarks about her. and today she is going to offer her rebuttal to trump's -- amazing is moving like one. real is making new friends. amazing is getting this close. real is an animal rescue. amazing is over twenty-seven thousand of them. there's only one place where real and amazing live. book a seaworld vacation package and eat free. now you can't spell nutriam i right?t nut, i mean whose to say it's pronounced nu-triton, anyway? 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>> reporter: it's really about both, thomas. i would say that because trump has already done his speech here in the detroit area, this is an opportunity for hillary clinton to try to distinguish herself and her plans from what he talked about. she'll do that in ways where she will try to say that what donald trump is proposing is really not for the working family. not for the middle class family. and that his sort of regurgitated, trickle down economics, that's kind of a phrase the clinton team is using, is something she argues has been tried before and hasn't worked. so she is going to talk about things that were very prominent in the primary phase for the democratic candidates, talking about how do you pay for college in modern america with families who have economic struggles? that was very big for bernie sanders. you'll hear some of what influenced hillary clinton in this. and it would be tuition-free for some families and debt-free for those who might have more ability to pay. that's going to be a part of what she is going to be talking about. going through plans and ideas, thomas, that she thinks will connect with a key demographic that has been appealing to the donald trump message and has been a part of what has been his success earlier on. that working-class family and that is what she's going to dry to go after here, to separate herself from some of the things that trump has espoused and to say that her plans would really make a more meaningful difference in families' lives. so when people talk about policy, this is where it can get into the nitty-gritty of different things they propose. hard to know what either can't candidates plans would look like in office. that's a challenge. but they're going to try to define themselves. we heard from trump already. now it's hillary clinton's turn to talk about the economy. thomas? >> all right. we'll have those remarks here on msnbc when they happen. kelly o'donnell, thanks so much. i want to go now to msnbc senior political editor, beth fouhy. let's talk about the clinton campaign and how they want to stay on economic policy and what's taking place for the vision of a hillary clinton presidency. is that the best plan, paint her own forecast? don't try to do too much to go after donald trump? let him do his own damage? >> he's certainly been doing a lot of damage. but she hasn't pulled back. she has been aggressive, she's going to go after trump today in this economic speech. she did speak out -- she was very guarded, but did speak out about his comment about the second amendment people, you know, and that comment, of course, very controversial. her team has basically been saying we should never have an candidate who is advocating violence. in that case, she is letting him hang himself on the controversy, but not refusing to get into it. she has a big, robust calendar of fund-raisers, going out to california, in the hamptons. she's raising money, she is campaigning hard. she is not acting like a candidate who is way ahead, as we have seen in these polls. for now, she is. she knows, her team knows, things can change and the worst thing she can do is hang back and act like things are over. >> one thing i want to point out, the second amendment issue, this isn't some drummed up media thing. the secret service confirmed they were aware of the remarks. they've got one job to do, to keep people safe. so hearing about hillary clinton with the words having power. there is responsibility that comes along with this. >> sure is. . and running for president, what those words mean, how people act from all of that. meanwhile, as we look at the e-mail situation with judicial watch releasing this new batch of e-mails and whether they indicate the clinton foundation and those donors had any type of special access to the state department, through hillary clinton. how are your sources inside the campaign responding to that characterization? >> they would love never to hear the term "e-mail" or "hillary clinton" ever again. the official line out of them -- >> e-mail back. >> exactly. what they will say to those -- sort of slightly incriminating e-mails that suggest that some of these clinton foundation donors did get special access saying this didn't involve the secretary herself, only involved aides. >> but puts them on defense to have to explain this away. and makes people skeptical about the fact that there are folks who thought -- thought there was a special type of treatment. >> this is her biggest weakness, the sense you can't trust her words, things are going on behind the scenes that are a little bid shady. that should be giving special access to donors. that's an accusation that goes back to the president clinton days, the sleepovers in the clinton bedroom. it is a liability for them, but trump hasn't really taken advantage of it. he had a really big opening, trying to take advantage of it, allegedly but then says things that step on his own message. saying that secretary clinton and the president are founders of isis. if he wants to make -- he could really zoom in on that and instead goes off and says these more outrageous things that get all of the attention. >> all right, beth. thank you so much. good to see you. and again, watching miami beach, florida, at the fountain blue hotel, the national association of home builders. and their main speaker today is the gop nominee, donald trump. so a lot of people would think that this is going to be a home run for the real estate magnet to talk about his economic policies with a specific focus on the american housing market. we're going to bring that to you live, right here when it happens. mother in-law with a keen sense of smell... glad bag, full of trash. what happens next? 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>> well, donald trump is correct that he's being outspent by hillary clinton by a wide margin in ads. if you just look at the campaigns, $52 million, and donald trump a goose egg, zero on the airwaves to date. he's right on that account. when you look at the polls that quote you aired from him, it's a rosie picture he is portraying. he mentioned, for example, pennsylvania, which our poll showed donald trump down by 11 points. just for some context, imagine you take for a minute pennsylvania off that map. colorado and virginia are two other states where hillary clinton is vastly outpolling donald trump right now. so you take those off the map. if those three are off, donald trump would have to win florida, iowa, nevada, new hampshire, north carolina and ohio. that leaves him no margin for error at all in some very crucial battleground states. most of which, you know, he is not performing very well in now. and add to that the fact that clinton appears to be making some in roads in some traditionally red states, places like arizona, georgia. there has been some talk of utah being somewhat in play because of donald trump's vast unpopularity with mormons. so he is portraying a rose see picture, very, very little margin for error. unless he turns around battleground states like ohio, pennsylvania, where there are a lot of those white, blue collar votes that donald trump says he wants to grab, unless he turns around there, he's in trouble. >> is he faking it until you make it, basically, success breeds success? if we look at the education gap, supporters of this campaign and new data is out, it shows that this is really a lot about urban versus rural. >> absolutely. in addition to the education gap we have been talking about, especially over the last few days, there is a big difference. one of our colleagues, dante chinny, crunched some numbers looking at the urban versus rural divide. he found that hillary clinton is currently outperforming barack obama in urban areas. now in rural areas, donald trump is outperforming romney's performance in 2012, so he is doing very well in the rural areas. but i want to key in on the suburbs. these are extremely important voters in suburban areas. places like, for example, philadelphia, the suburbs where hillary clinton is crushing donald trump, according to our latest nbc news "wall street journal" marist poll by a 2-1 margin. he's not doing as well as he could with western and central pennsylvania voters who are more of his traditional base. it's partially because he is just getting crushed in philly itself and the white voters are starting to back away from him. people who may have voted for john mccain or mitt romney who are just saying he's not my candidate. that's what's hurting him in a lot of key states. and, by the way, future polls that are going to come out in states that are maybe more divers, places like florida, north carolina, he may have to brace for some more bad state poll results in the coming days, as well. >> so carrie, just for folks skeptical of what this big divide means in terms of a hillary clinton lead, my grand mother always used to say, if they've got nerve enough to ask, you've got nerve enough to lie. could there be a baked in factor of polls being really off and some folks not being open about saying they're willing to cross the aisle or they want to vote for donald trump or they want to vote for hillary clinton. i mean, can you characterize that in connection to the 2012 cycle, the 2008 cycle? >> well, and donald trump wants to make this argument, as well. he has said he thinks that some of these polls are incorrect. pollsters will always tell you, look at the polling averages. look across the board. don't just center all of your analysis on one or two polls. look at everything nationwide. and in these key battle ground states. but we can say if we're looking at national polls showing again and again and again, regardless of methodology, some method willings not all created equal. if we're looking at polling where nationally donald trump on average is down seven or eight points, that's the kind of thing that is going to reflect in battleground state polls. that's why, for example, some place like wisconsin, new poll out yesterday, showing hillary clinton up 15 points in a state that's generally been much more competitive, a blue state but much more competitive state. you're starting to see the national polling average reflected in the key battle ground states. a difference of three or four points within the margin of error is certainly something you've got to take into account. a difference when you're getting into high single digits. i think donald trump needs to take those results seriously and think about what he could do to change his campaign to get it back under control and back to a more reasonable margin. >> and certain ones double digits. carrie dann, great to have you on. three states that could turn the election are arizona, pennsylvania and florida. joining me now are dna nowicki at the arizona republic. mary ellen clause from the miami herald, and john micic. it is great to have you all assembled. i want to give you fair warning, we are awaiting the trump remarks that are going to take place at the national association of home builders. that's the small box we see down on the right-hand side of the screen. so john, let's dive in here. pennsylvania not just the keystone state. it looks like like a key to the trump presidency. and with such a disparity gee graphly, where is there an opening for trump? >> this is the tough part for donald trump. he carried all 67 of pennsylvania's counties in the republican primary back in april. and it's conceivable that he could win 60 of 67 counties in the november election and still lose. for the very reason that carrie outlined. hillary clinton in the last poll was up by 40 points in the philadelphia suburbs. those voters, middle class, white, college educated, a lot of women voters down there, as well. with whom trump historically underperforms as well. who are running away from him. about one-third of the state's 8.2 million voters live in the philadelphia suburbs. so unless he can cut into that in some way, then it's a real tough road to victory in pennsylvania for donald trump. >> so mary, let's talk about your home state of florida, donald trump appearing there in miami beach here shortly. one of the tightest races in these battleground states that we can discuss. but when we look at where donald trump is in terms of what his performance has been, both candidates have spent a lot of time there in the last couple of weeks. so for swing voters and going through, you know that all-important corridor, st. petersburg and through that area in tampa, explain what they are looking for to make a decision. >> well, you're absolutely right. the -- while donald trump is in miami today, he's going to spend tonight going back to what's known as the i-4 corridor, that large swath between orlando and tampa and st. pete area. and that is kind of the heart of -- that has traditionally been the heart of florida's swing vote. and the interesting thing is that the polls that now show the race is very tight in florida between hillary clinton and donald trump also show that among the swing voters, which are the nonparty affiliated, the independent voters, it's very tight there. and that is -- it's along this corridor where we think it will make the difference. one the factors influencing this dramatically is the increase in the number of hispanic voters that are now registering at nonparty affiliates. >> right. >> and i think that while they are now showing up as -- while the independent vote shows up as tied, i think that donald trump's performance among that group could ultimately make the difference, and that's why most of the politicos in florida and many republican leaders think that he's really on the losing end of that equation. >> so dan, let's dig into arizona and the fact that the projections put hillary clinton very close to 270. as we look at poaching states, arizona for hillary clinton is what many would consider to be in striking distance for her. and it's been a republican voting state consistently since '76. so what's turning it this way? 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>> if you have ever spent any amount of time on pennsylvania highways, thomas, you know they can be occasionally kidney-jarring. there is a big project for the last couple years, started under the former republican governor, tom corbett. when you talk to trump voters, as i had the chance to do when he was in suburban harrisburg last week, they're very much focused on those lunch pail issues. this is a pocketbook election for voters in pennsylvania where they have collapsed the manufacturing base. you see that in the southwest with coal mining in the northeast, as well. that's what -- i mean, they're talking about the border wall, talking about terrorism. but when you home in and talk to these folks, this is very much a -- an election for them about economic issues. and so when you talk about creating jobs as infrastructure, construction, that will resonate. and so far they haven't been affected by the lack of specifics in the trump plan. he'll be in here, altoona on friday, where he'll talk more in depth to voters about that. i'll be curious to hear their reactions once they hear more red meat specifics to the plans. >> and for everybody, dan specifically, as we look at what it means to be at the top of the ticket for those running on the same ballast, john mccain in the race for his life right now. and he has the support of donald trump. they have gone back and forth with this in a kind of arms' length. you have written about how either candidate in the mccain on the right or the democrat, ann kirk patrick has to contend with what it means to have trump or hillary in ray a trust issue. >> right, exactly. and both candidates are trying to link desperately the other to their top of the ticket. generally, i would think that in a usual year, that would probably hurt ann kirk patrick, but this year with trump and his controversies and issues it seems to really kind of hurt john mccain. mccain obviously taking it very seriously, and he's definitely treating it like it's the race of his life, and he's -- he could be some collateral damage of this trump/hillary election in arizona. >> we know there could be issues with that for marco rubio down in florida, as that race is tightening. so mary, let's talk about that. which part of the state is going to likely determine this race? is it really going to be that mid section, the tampa/st. pete corridor? >> are you talking the rubio -- >> yes. >> rubio race? yeah. well, right now rubio obviously has a tremendous amount of support in south florida and miami. his home area. in the presidential primary, it was the only -- miami-dade was the only county that rubio beat trump in. so yes, i do think that the i-4 corridor again will be the pivotal place. i think, though, that while it looks as though a new poll was out -- quinnipiac poll out today shows rubio only leading by 3 percentage points against his likely rival, patrick murphy. i think that that -- that poll is -- there may be some problems with that. i do think he has a lot stronger support statewide, and that poll indicates last week it had a far larger margin. and so -- but there is some concern and there is some concern around the state that donald trump will suppress voter turnout. that there may be enough republicans that are turned off that won't show up. and that could potentially make the race a lot closer for someone like marco rubio. >> all right. so i want to say thanks to all of you again. dan nowicki, mary clause, dan micic. we're waiting for donald trump in miami beach. i've gotten some guidance inside the trump campaign that it's reed doing the introduction. tom reid representing the 23rd district in new york. we're back, after this. gary, gary, gary... i am proud of you, my man. making simple, smart cash back choices... with quicksilver from capital one. you're earning unlimited 1.5% cash back on every purchase, everywhere. like on that new laptop. quicksilver keeps things simple, gary. and smart, like you! and i like that. i guess i am pretty smart. don't let that go to your head, gary. what's in your wallet? 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"nightly news" begins right now. this is "nbc nightly news" with lester holt. reporting tonight from the olympic summer games in rio. good evening. here at olympic park, it is gold and silver for team usa tonight in women's gymnastics. most coveted title, the all-around. 19-year-old olympic rookie simone biles seemingly unaffected by the pressure of high expectations just delivered a jaw-dropping performance here to take the gold medal. with fellow american aly raisman taking the silver. we caught up with simone biles just a short time ago. >> i'm feeling like a whirlwind of emotions, excited, happy, proud, of both me and aly because we both went out there tonight and we both did our jobs. so i couldn't ask for anything more. >> simone biles fresh off her win here this evening. nbc's miguel almaguer has more on an exciting day and an exciting night to come here. >> reporter: simone biles left little doubt from the beginning. >> i don't think there's anybody else that can do this vault like simone just did. >> reporter: the 4'9" gymnast standing tall, leaping to new heights. on the floor, the vault, the beam and the bars. tonight crowned the all-around olympic champ. for the americans, gold and silver. aly raisman springing to the podium, too. biles moments ago. >> we just kept telling each other to have fun, it's only one more routine. and i think that's what we did. >> reporter: in guanabara bay, belgian evi van acker, a sailing front-runner, has fallen behind after falling ill. her coach says she got an infection while training in the polluted waters last month. olympic officials insist the water is safe. in the time trial kristin armstrong took home gold and won the hearts of millions with this special mother and son embrace. >> when you become a mom, there's no reason to give up your goals and your passions and your dreams. >> reporter: in the pool, the americans needed wonder woman to come to the rescue after falling behind in the 4x200 relay. >> australia, i believe, has the lead right now. >> reporter: the australians had a nearly one-second advantage, a lifetime in the pool before katie ledecky could rocket into the water. >> and you can see it already as she's just swimming right there with her. >> reporter: surging through the pool, ledecky needed only 50 meters to catch the aussie. >> and ledecky has the lead with a hundred meters left. >> every person in this pool is scared to race katie ledecky. >> reporter: with each stroke ledecky builds on her lead pulling away in a sprint that wasn't close in the end. >> ten meters left for katie ledecky of the united states. >> reporter: ledecky cruised to the wall nearly two seconds ahead. >> the u.s. women win gold in the 4x200. >> she won the gold medal. that's a part of history. we're all just so happy to be a part of it and just soaking it all in. >> reporter: tonight the shine of a champion who in history stands alone. later on tonight over at the aquatic center, michael phelps and ryan lochte will face off in what will likely be their final duel against each other. they have had a great american rivalry. yesterday we told you about the two pools that were green. still green today. >> thank you very much, miguel almaguer. no easy transition as we turn back home now to silver spring, maryland. a suburb outside washington, d.c., where an investigation is under way tonight into the cause of a deadly apartment building explosion. authorities say it was felt as far as a mile away. it caused people to jump to safety. nbc's hans nichols is there where the search for the missing continues. >> reporter: the explosion came just before midnight at these three-story garden apartments in a predominantly central american community in silver spring, maryland. as the fire raged for two hours, ladders hoisted to windows, first by neighbors, then firefighters. survivors spoke of dramatic escapes. children and adults leaping from the second story. >> oh, lord. >> county police on scene. advising people trapped on second and third floor. >> reporter: the force of the blast twisting metal, sending windows and bits of balcony across the street, some 70 yards. at least 2 people confirmed dead, 34 including 3 firefighters hospitalized. as many as 100 people displaced and several missing. >> good lord. that looks like a plane flew through it. >> reporter: today the shell of the building still smoldering. maria esperanta heard the explosion, got up to investigate, and when she returned the floor beneath her son collapsed. she hasn't seen him since and asks for help in finding him. the cause of the explosion unclear. officials acknowledge they received a call late last month about the smell of gas at the complex but today said any connection is premature. >> we're not prepared to discuss at this time any causes of this incident. >> reporter: this afternoon the rescue operation looking more and more like a recovery. hans nichols, nbc news, silver spring, maryland. for the third time in less than a week in this country a child has been involved in a horrific accident on an amusement park ride. this time a 3-year-old boy suddenly plummeted from a roller coaster at a park outside pittsburgh where he's hospitalized tonight. nbc's blake mccoy has details. >> reporter: just after noon thursday, excitement turned to panic when a child fell from a roller coaster at the idlewild and soak zone theme park in ligonier, pennsylvania. >> is this child on the ground? did you move him? >> reporter: the 3-year-old said to be alert and talking when he was air lifted to children's hospital in pittsburgh. the accident happened on the rollo coaster ride. it requires a child to be at least 48 inches tall but only 36 inches if they ride with an adult. how the boy fell out is unclear. >> our rides are inspected daily, and we're not going to go into that right now, but safety is always our number one priority. >> reporter: the accident on the 78-year-old wooden coaster comes just days after three girls were injured on a ferris wheel in tennessee when the car they were riding in turned over. sunday a 10-year-old boy was killed in kansas while riding what's been billed as the world's tallest water slide. doctors caution some rides can be unsafe for children simply because they're young. >> they're impulsive. there are examples of children trying to climb out of moving roller coasters at small amusement parks just because they get frightened. >> reporter: but an industry association points out the chance of injury is about 1 in 16 million, calling it extremely rare. state inspectors are on site right now helping to determine what went wrong. as for that 3-year-old, he was conscious when brought here to the hospital and tonight his family is asking for privacy. lester? >> all right, blake mccoy, thank you. a grieving husband is speaking out to nbc news after his 73-year-old wife was shot dead accidentally by a police officer in florida during a training drill gone horribly wrong. there are a lot of questions that remain about how this could have possibly happened. the victim's husband tells us he saw it all with his own eyes. here's nbc's kerry sanders. >> we've been married 55 years. >> reporter: gary knowlton today mourning the loss of his wife, mary. on tuesday just moments after this photograph was taken, he witnessed in horror as his partner of 55 years was shot to death by police officer lee coel. he was role playing as a criminal. >> i was maybe ten feet away and watched her get shot. >> reporter: the tragic accident happened during a shoot/don't shoot citizens academy class like this one where the gun would normally be loaded with blanks, marker rounds, but how could real bullets end up in the weapon? experts say a revolver like the one used in the florida tragedy should have been equipped with sizing collars to prevent live ammunition from being loaded. >> if the collars were inserted in the revolver, only the training ammunition marking or blank would be able to fit in that firearm. >> reporter: officer coel on paid administrative leave has faced controversy before. he was investigated for an arrest last year when a man was mauled by his police dog for about two minutes. he wasn't sanctioned but did receive additional screening. coel and his police union did not comment today but tonight mary knowlton's family still forgiving. >> people make big mistakes, and they shouldn't have to live with it for the rest of their life. >> reporter: kerry sanders, nbc news, miramar, florida. let's turn to presidential politics now. a new day and a new controversy for donald trump who over the last 24 hours in speech after speech and interview after interview has repeatedly asserted that the president of the united states, barack obama, is, quote, the founder of isis. and trump is not backing off those comments. even when given a chance to explain. nbc's hallie jackson has the latest. >> reporter: his hyperbole hitting new heights. >> isis is honoring president obama. he is the founder of isis. >> reporter: after accusing the president of founding the terror group tonight, true to form, donald trump's not backing down. >> he's the founder of isis. i call president obama and hillary clinton the founders of isis. these are the founders of isis. >> reporter: many conservatives argue the obama administration's actions in the middle east created a vacuum of power that let isis flourish. >> you meant that he created the vacuum, he lost the peace. >> no. i meant he's the founder of isis. i do. he's the most valuable player. i give him the most valuable player award. i give her, too, by the way. >> but he's not sympathetic to them. he hates them. he's trying to kill them. >> he's the founder. >> reporter: the founder of isis is this man, abu musab al zarqawi. the u.s. has conducted more than 11,000 strikes against isis and spent more than $8.5 billion fighting the terror group. >> it's about changing the storyline immediately and relying on stage craft. and that's what donald trump did today. >> reporter: hillary clinton's campaign slamming trump for his, quote, unprecedented lack of knowledge. in the midst of what "time" magazine today calls simply a meltdown, trump so far sticking to the strategy that got him this far. >> i just keep doing the same thing i'm doing right now. in the end it's either going to work or i'm going to, you know, i'm going to have a very, very nice long vacation. >> reporter: while trump sees political opportunity linking clinton to the president, there may be political risk in going after him so hard. nbc's newest favorability ratings show the president nearly twice as popular as trump. lester? >> hallie jackson in florida, thank you. a new study out today reveals an alarming trend. more car crashes are being caused by falling debris often with deadly consequences. a 40% increase in the last 15 years. as nbc's gabe gutierrez reports, the study says these harrowing moments you're about to see are preventable. >> reporter: it can happen in an instant. highway cargo breaking free turning into missiles. >> there it goes. boom. >> reporter: this mattress on a new jersey highway forcing drivers to swerve. a truck tipping over bursting into flames. >> i feel like it could have been so easily like prevented. >> reporter: holden amore was almost killed in florida when a heavy piece of sheet metal smashed through his windshield. >> i was driving on the interstate when a torpedo essentially went through the windshield and hit me in the face. there's really no reason why i should be here. >> reporter: a new aaa study finds between 2011 and 2014 dangerous debris played a key role in at least 200,000 crashes, causing more than 39,000 injuries and 500 deaths. two-thirds of those wrecks involved objects falling out of a vehicle, most in the middle of the day on freeways. joe starks, a road ranger for the florida department of transportation, says he's seen it all. >> the weirdest thing i found was barbecue grills, couches, brand-new furniture, televisions. >> reporter: in 16 states drivers of unsecured loads face potential jail time. >> it could be extremely dangerous. >> reporter: here in louisiana the penalty can be up to six months in prison. >> people need to make sure that their loads are secure by using the proper cargo tie-down straps. they can make sure that those items that they're carrying are properly secured. >> reporter: advice, police say, can prevent a heavy load from carrying a heavy price. gabe gutierrez, nbc news, new orleans. still ahead here tonight, two words. simone biles. fresh off her all-around gold medal win with yet another astounding performance. a look at how she pulls off those gravity-defying moves. also speaking of defying gravity, big trouble for the young man caught scaling the outside of trump tower. we're back now from rio with what you might call the science of simone biles. how exactly does she do what she does? she makes it look easy, but for most of us, it's just not humanly possible. here's nbc's stephanie gosk. >> i would describe my style of gymnastics very powerful and i guess you could say fun. >> reporter: fun for everyone except the gymnasts who have to compete against her. gold medalists nastia liukin and tim daggett say simone biles leaves them speechless. >> she is, by far, the best gymnast that i've ever seen. >> reporter: do you run out of superlatives? >> i've said that many times. there aren't enough adjectives. >> reporter: most gymnasts have one specialty. biles has three. vault, beam and floor. >> she's lightning quick. she's strong. she has amazing air sense. she's got the whole thing, and it all comes together. >> reporter: the best example is on floor when she does her signature move, the biles. >> she does a roundoff to a back handspring, then flies in the air, she does two flips in a layout position which we call a double layout. right before she's about to land she does a half turn, so then she's forced to have what we call blind landing. >> reporter: behind the perfection is power. >> a power gymnast is somebody that's able to generate tremendous force with their legs. if you're more powerful, you can fly higher, you can do more things and you can make it look even easier. and just up and up. >> reporter: which is exactly what biles does on the vault as well. >> it's jaw dropping when you watch her. i think when we slow it down in slow motion, too, you just see actually how high she goes. >> reporter: no one does harder routines, which means before she takes to the floor, biles already has the potential to score higher than anyone else. >> gymnastics is all about doing the hardest stuff possible and making it look easy, and that's what she does. >> reporter: she does that. >> yeah, she does that. she makes it look so easy. >> reporter: that's why no one can touch her. stephanie gosk, nbc news, rio. >> absolutely fascinating. we're back in a moment with how and when you can catch a spectacular show in the sky tonight. the young man whose stunt caused high anxiety at trump tower now faces big trouble with the law. 19-year-old steven regatta has been charged with reckless endangerment and criminal trespass. he kept millions glued to their screens for nearly three hours as he climbed with suction cups before police hauled him in on the 21st floor. tonight macy's says it plans to close about 100 stores next year, about 14% of its stores, as the nation's largest department store chain says it's trying to be more nimble in an ultracompetitive market. keep your eyes on the sky for something amazing tonight when the annual perseid meteor shower hits its peak. experts say as many as 200 meteors, double the usual rate which hasn't happened since 2009. western states will have the best view, but the action doesn't start until the overnight hours. when we come back, how the u.s. women's gymnastics team is inspiring a new generation to follow in their footsteps. reinforcements. ===janelle/vo=== the extra protection they say they need to make sure officers get home safely at the end of the day. ===raj/vo=== and, drone on. who's charting a path to get drone racing into the olympics. ===raj/close=== next at 6. finally tonight, they have given us some of the more memorable moments here in rio including another dominating performance this evening. the u.s. women's gymnastics team certainly earning their place in history here. and now the future generation is looking up to these olympians who, as rehema ellis tells us, are inspiring america. >> reporter: as simone biles powered her team to a golden moment, fans in her hometown of spring, texas, and nationwide roared with pride. >> who knows how many little girls are thinking they want to be like aly or maybe gabby or madison or simone? >> reporter: true enough, a group of budding gymnasts at chelsea piers fieldhouse in new york watched in adoration -- >> usa! >> reporter: -- and dreams of their own. like 10-year-old analyse. only 2 when she started tumbling in a sport that traditionally didn't look much like her but now is more diverse than ever. do you think you could end up in the olympics? >> i want to. i was inspired by them. and they were like really good. that makes me want to be like them. >> reporter: she's following role models like dominique dawes. >> it does not get much better than that. >> reporter: the first african-american female gymnast to take home a gold medal in 1996. in the 2012 london games, gabby douglas made stunning olympic history. >> and it's a gabby gold. >> reporter: winning the individual all-around championship. and now simone biles. soaring to new heights and changing the game. 18-year-old maya reimers couldn't be more pleased. a junior olympic qualifier she's college bound on a gymnastics scholarship and grateful to simone and others who helped the sport cross color lines. >> you shouldn't feel like you're not able to join a sport because of your skin color. it's a sport for everyone. so if she's able to inspire, then that's amazing. >> reporter: the changing face of the world's best gymnasts inspiring a new generation of young american girls. rehema ellis, nbc news, new york. we look forward to seeing some of them on the podium someday. that's going to do it for us on a thursday night. i'm lester holt. a reminder, nbc primetime olympic coverage starts at 8:00, 7:00 central with another big night in swimming and gymnastics. for all of us at nbc news, thank you for watching and good night from rio. right now at 6:00, teammates and friends turn into rivals. four high profile olympians taking to the mat and to the pool. the news starts now. thanks for joining us on this thursday evening. >> we will be seeing two big matchups in prime time tonight. a live look now at the olympic cauldron. team usa dominating the overall medal count. now it gets personal. super star teammates going for gold. >> team coverage begins with jessica aguirre in rio. the swimming venue is behind you. the big race about to begin. >> reporter: yes. this is going to be an epic night like you said. i call it a friendly faceoff. in the pool it's phelps against lochte in their final battle, battling it out in the pool. then in gymnastics, only one woman can walk away with the individual gold medal for all around. both biles and raisman, they both want it. it's a rivalry of olympic proportion. now longtime teammates and roommates will have one final swimming showdown. for the fourth time in their careers, they will face off in the 200 meter individual medley. >> i don't know about the bromance part. we have been racing since 2004. we created a good friendship and everything from that. ep
New-yorkUnited-statesLouisianaAustraliaTexasWashingtonFloridaLondonCity-ofUnited-kingdomNew-orleansIdlewild and from rio, the final showdown. what michael phelps and ryan lochte said about each other before their faceoff tonight. and of course, the other breaking headline from rio tonight. she's made america very proud. good evening. and we begin tonight with the urgent search for the missing at this hour, after a deadly explosion at an apartment complex in maryland. the explosion in the middle of the night, and you can see family members climbing out of windows. one man holding his phone light there to get the rescuer's attention. here's what we know tonight. at least two people were killed in the inferno. dozens hurt, including several firefighters. the blast rocking the entire neighborhood. abc's gloria riviera is on the scene tonight, amid growing questions over whether this was a gas explosion. >> reporter: tonight, the smoldering devastation from above, all that's left of this maryland apartment complex. >> it appears there was some sort of explosion. the debris has covered the entire road. >> reporter: that explosion striking just before midnight, when residents were blasted out of bed. the boom felt a mile away. >> what i saw was, like, a lot of buildings on fire. i got so scared, there were like, people jumping out of the window, like, screaming for help and kids screaming, because there are a lot of kids scared. >> reporter: parents dropping their children into waiting arms. neighbors saving neighbors until firefighters could reach those trapped and pull them to safety. 34 people hospitalized. by morning, the search for the missing. crews locating two bodies in the ruins. this woman can't find her 9-year-old son. >> it's horrific. and then you add on the known injuries, and what we already know is a few fatalities, it just takes it from devastating to unthinkable. >> reporter: the cause of the blast now under investigation. but officials say, residents here called 911 weeks ago to report the smell of gas. you said two weeks ago, people called the fire department because of the smell of -- >> smell of bad gas. >> reporter: gas? >> yes. >> reporter: that scent can sometimes signal danger, as it did before this deadly gas blast at a home in new jersey. and two people were killed last year at this new york apartment after work on an illegal gas line. >> and gloria riviera is with us live from maryland tonight. and gloria, we saw your reporting there, that residents, neighbors had called, concerned about the smell of gas before. do we know if authorities answered those calls? >> reporter: that's right, david. the fire department tells us, they did respond to those 911 calls. they say they went door to door, but at that time, they did not find anything specifically hazardous. crews will be working into the night here, still searching for several missing. david? >> gloria riviera on the scene all day for us. gloria, thank you. we are also following another developing story tonight. another major accident at an amusement park. the third in just a week now. tonight, a 3-year-old boy airlifted to the hospital after a roller coaster accident, and you can see the ambulances right there on the scene near pittsburgh. authorities say the 3-year-old was riding a roller coaster with his older brother. the ride has been shut down tonight, and here's abc's linsey davis. >> reporter: this afternoon, that 3-year-old was airlifted to a hospital after riding a wooden roller coaster at the idlewild and soak zone park just outside of pittsburgh. >> the boy was conscious while being treated on-site. he was talking. he was alert with his family. >> reporter: officials aren't yet saying exactly how he was hurt on the ride called rollo coaster, built in 1938. the rules say, "guests under four feet tall must be accompanied by an adult." in this case, his older brother. this latest accident comes on the heels of two others just this week. 10-year-old caleb schwab was killed sunday at the schlitterbahn water park in kansas city, on the tallest water slide in the world. >> there was a very loud, just, a boom, boom. i knew immediately that somebody had fallen off the raft. >> reporter: and on monday, three girls suffered serious injuries after falling from a ferris wheel in tennessee. >> they just screamed a little bit, and then they just hit the ground and just landed there. >> reporter: authorities in pennsylvania are now investigating just what went wrong. it is still unclear how long the park will remain closed. david? >> linsey davis, our thanks to you. now, to major developments in the race for president tonight. donald trump and his new attack against president obama, saying that president obama is the founder of isis. trump in florida today, standing by his words, saying hillary clinton is the co-founder. and you will hear what he said when asked by a conservative radio host if that's what he really meant. also tonight, what we're now learning about the man who climbed trump tower and was then pulled into those windows on the 21st floor. abc's david wright is on the campaign trail. >> reporter: tonight in florida -- >> i call president obama and hillary clinton the founders of isis. they're the founders. >> reporter: donald trump is hammering away at that new line of attack. >> isis is honoring president obama. he is the founder of isis. he's the founder of isis. i would say the co-founder would be crooked hillary clinton. >> reporter: conservative radio host hugh hewitt pressed him on that. >> i know what you meant. you meant that he created the vacuum, he lost the peace. >> no, i meant he's the founder of isis. >> but he's not sympathetic to them. he hates them. he's trying to kill them. >> i don't care. he was the founder. >> reporter: trump also mocked the clinton campaign for allowing the father of the orlando shooter to sit behind her at one of her rallies. >> when you get those seats, you sort of know the campaign. >> reporter: but right behind trump -- >> how many of you people know me? >> reporter: -- is mark foley, the ex-florida congressman who resigned in disgrace for sending sexually explicit messages to young pages. the trump campaign struggling to recapture the dominance he enjoyed in the primaries. >> by the way, four times on the cover of "time magazine" over the last number of months, which is amazing. >> reporter: this week, he's got the "time" cover again. "meltdown." not exactly the headline you'd want. >> ohio's very close, but we need help. >> reporter: today at a religious roundtable, trump asked for help. >> having a tremendous problem in utah. >> reporter: and in an interview, he even entertained the idea that he might not win. >> it's either going to work or i'm going to, you know, i'm going to have a very, very nice, long vacation. >> all right, david wright with us live tonight, and david, you also have new reporting on a new letter tonight from more than 70 republicans, asking the republican party to stop funding trump's campaign? >> reporter: david, the letter says, "every dollar spent on donald trump's campaign is a dollar of donor money wasted." needless to say, the republican national committee is unlikely to agree. david? >> david wright with us live tonight. david, thank you. and it was while we were on the air last night here, we watched that man scaling trump tower, pulled in through those windows on live television. tonight, he's under arrest. and here's abc's gio benitez. >> reporter: tonight, new details emerging about the young man who climbed trump tower, hoping to get a private meeting with donald trump. the climber transfixing the city during the three-hour ordeal. police taking out a window pane to head him off. when he got to the 21st floor, police ordering him to come inside. he refuses, and grabs onto that building. officers then reach out and grab him. they pull him in safely, ending the spectacle. here you see him just after the arrest, inside an ivanka trump shoe store. police immediately taking him to the hospital for a psychological evaluation. his name, stephen rogata. the 19-year-old posted this video manifesto on youtube, just a day before. >> i am an independent researcher. >> reporter: a close family friend telling us, she's never known the young man to be obsessed with politics. >> very shocked. we didn't even know he climbed. >> reporter: and david, tonight, rogata is still in the hospital, but he's officially been charged with reckless endangerment and criminal trespassing. david? >> gio benitez with us in manhattan. gio, thank you. meantime, hillary clinton tonight far from trump tower, and wasting no time fighting back against trump. her campaign saying donald trump has, quote, an aversion to the truth, after he labeled the president the founder of isis. meantime, clinton and her olympics strategy. abc's cecilia vega in michigan. >> reporter: hillary clinton in a detroit factory today, painting her opponent as an out of touch rich guy. >> he wants america to work for him and his friends, at the expense of everyone else. >> reporter: clinton blasting donald trump, even using the olympics to take political shots. arguing trump's ideas for the economy are based on fear. >> if team usa was as fearful as trump, michael phelps and simone biles would be cowering in the locker room, afraid to come out to compete. instead, they're winning gold medals. america isn't afraid to compete. >> reporter: clinton's camp pouring more than $13 million into tv ads airing as america goes for the gold. >> and those companies that move overseas? she'd charge them an exit tax. >> reporter: the score so far? $56 million to $0. that's what clinton is spending on general election tv ads. trump, not a dime. >> clinton is getting a little bit nervous, crooked hillary, she's getting a little bit concerned. i said, that's okay. that's okay. we sit back and wait. >> cecilia vega with us live tonight from detroit. and in addition to those olympics ads, mrs. clinton also trying to put pressure on trump tonight for not releasing his taxes, cecilia? >> reporter: they could come, and her taxes could come as soon as tomorrow. the 2015 taxes. ten years worth for tim kaine, too, david. they are definitely trying to put the pressure on here. >> all right, cecilia vega with us, as well. thank you, cecilia. we are learning new details about the accidental police shooting of a 73-year-old wife and retired librarian in florida. it was a community safety exercise, and we have new images of the officer posing as the attacker while conducting that safety workshop. police saying his gun was not supposed to be loaded. abc's phillip mena tonight, as we hear from that woman's husband for the first time. >> reporter: this photo shows the moment officer lee coel -- playing an attacker in that fateful training exercise -- raises his revolver and taking aim before firing the shots that would kill 73-year-old mary knowlton. >> she had a fake gun, his gun was supposed to have blanks. >> reporter: "charlotte sun" photojournalist sue paquin took the photos. knowlton's husband, just feet away. >> went and tried to save her life and i was just in shock. i just -- didn't know what to do. >> reporter: officer coel, who is now on administrative leave, has a controversial past. >> get down! >> reporter: his use of a k-9 on a cyclist is the subject of a pending civil lawsuit. and three years ago, he was stripped of his gun and badge at another florida police department amid excessive force allegations. he resigned, but was later cleared. tonight, punta gorda's police chief still unable to explain why coel's gun had real bullets in it. >> i accept full responsibility for the actions of my department. >> reporter: the florida department of law enforcement is looking into the shooting. but it could take up to four weeks before their investigation is complete. david? >> phillip mena with us tonight. phillip, thank you. there are storms moving through the east right now, including right over central park moments ago, not far from our studio, amid flood watches across the south over the next 48 hours from the gulf coast, all the way to minnesota. heavy rains and flood, roads there and homes in mississippi, deeming with a lot of water tonight. in the meantime, the heat across the east. and let's get right to rob marciano, who was just standing in that storm moments ago. rob, it's passed? >> reporter: it's passed, but it was pretty intense when it came through. and like many areas, when it rained, it came down heavily. we've expanded the flash watches tonight along northern new england and across iowa, severe thunderstorms rolling through that area. and our stubborn gulf coast low continues to sit and spin. over eight inches of rain falling in some spots. look for another five-plus. i think it will rain there right through saturday. as you mentioned, the other big story is the heat. we have heat advisories now up from the gulf coast, through the plains, from d.c. to philly, all through boston. tomorrow's highs, again, will be in the low to mid 90s, with the humidity, it will feel like over 100 degrees. with rain like today coming through, i have to be honest, david, that feels pretty good. >> all right, come on back inside, rob. thanks so much. in the meantime tonight, we turn now to a foiled terror plot near the canadian border. police in ontario killing an alleged isis sympathizer, and it was the fbi, it turns out, that warned canadian authorities he was about to carry out a suicide bomb attack. the suspect was killed in a confrontation with officers in front of his home. police opening fire as he detonated an explosive inside this taxi right here. authorities believe he was planning to launch an attack within 72 hours. we're going to turn next tonight here to rio. and two friends about to face off tonight. and a shining star making america very proud late today. abc's matt gutman on the gymnast with the golden touch. >> reporter: tonight, it's the triumph seen around the world. simone biles and aly raisman, vaulting over the competition, taking gold and silver in the women's all-around. biles beaming, hugging raisman as they see their scores. aly raisman, bursting into tears after finishing nearly a flawless floor routine. before the games, biles talked about what it's like, standing up on that podium. >> oh, gosh. that's a very emotional time. you just kind of feel everything, like, all your hard work put into that one moment. >> reporter: and across the olympic park, another jaw-dropping moment. katie ledecky notching an olympic record in a qualifying heat of the 800-meter free. so far ahead, it looked as if she were all alone in the pool. also poolside were ryan lochte and michael phelps, the old men of swimming, who happen to be the best men of swimming. rivals for over a decade, and now, roomies. swimming side-by-side in the 200-meter individual medley, their strokes in lock step. >> he brings the best out of me and -- we're races, so, you know, it's meets like these that i love the most, where him and i get to go in and kind of duke it out. >> reporter: the two most decorated swimmers finishing one and two ahead of tonight's final. >> of course they want to beat each other in the water, but outside of the water, they are just best of friends, and you can see up on the podium, when they're even laughing. it's great. >> reporter: phelps is 31, ryan lochte is 32. which apparently is considered ancient in the world of olympic swimming. now, phelps has said he'll retire at the end of these olympics, but today in a press conference, lochte, who has been in that 12-year rivalry with him, said, i honestly don't think that this is his last olympics. david? >> matt gutman with the lucky assignment this year. matt, let us know how it goes. and there is still much more ahead on "world news tonight" this thursday. authorities want your help right now, after two frightening road rage incidents. a young woman waving a gun right here in this video, after a dispute with another driver. and the second case, the dash cam video showing a driver shooting at another car with a child inside. authorities, again, need your help. new developments this evening. what we've now learned about the second female jogger found dead, and the new clue. why police are now seeking the public's attention. and later, it's not exactly an olympic feat, but watch this. the fan who tries to catch the ball, gets a face full of nachos. made us hungry. we'll be right back. miles per hour. 200 to win, every millisecond matters. both on the track and thousands of miles away. with the help of at&t, red bull racing can share critical information about every inch of the car from virtually anywhere. brakes are getting warm. confirmed, daniel you need to cool your brakes. understood, brake bias back 2 clicks. giving them the agility to have speed & precision. because no one knows & like at&t. but my back pain was making it hard to sleep and open up on time. then i found aleve pm. the only one to combine a safe sleep aid plus the 12 hour pain relieving strength of aleve. now i'm back. aleve pm for a better am. so we know how to cover almost alanything.ything, even mer-mutts. 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you won! she said, that's what we do. we cry when we're happy. >> being a mom has been my secret weapon. it provides me balance and it keeps me on track and it keeps me super focused. >> reporter: after the race, armstrong said she'd never had so much fun in competition. and today, she turns 43. what a way to celebrate. david? >> happy birthday. we'll see you tomorrow. good night. >> you might not realize there is something in there. but there could be information useful. >> how you can help a grieving family, killed at random while playing pokemon in a park. >> i never thought we'd make money with the house. >> they bought and sold in what has just been declared the most expensive metro market in the nation. >> i was telling you how much i love interactioning with human >> he was a college student, an athlete and son, but tonight, they're honoring him because he was a murder victim. good evening, and thanks for joining us. i'm ama daetz. >> i'm dan ashley. right now, family and friends are gathering for the viewing of calvin riley, shot and killed over the weekend, playing pokemon go in a park. >> we are live with the latest on this murder mystery. >> reporter: it's going to be a very difficult night. people started showing up for the memorial and viewing here. i did just get a chance to speak with a family spokesperson told me it's not easier for them, but they want to thank everybody for their support. it's been five days since calvin riley was shot and killed at san francisco's aquatic park and still, no arrests. we don't know a motive. there are no known witnesses and no description of the shooter. what we do know is that riley and a friend noticed someone lurking at the top of the hill while they played pokemon go on their phones. riley ran ahead and jogged
GainesvilleFloridaUnited-statesNew-yorkCanadaBostonMassachusettsMinnesotaPunta-gordaIdlewildTennesseeMichigan clinton's speech. trump raising eyebrows with his comments, the accusations he began to make last night that president obama, in his words, founded isis. right? this is something he said at his rally, the first time we heard that specific line against president obama. he's used it against hillary clinton before. i would say doubling down. that seems inadequate. i don't know if you would call it tripling or quadrupling or quinn it uppeling. i want to play what he said on cnbc and then talk about another interview he did that reiterated. >> is something wrong with saying that? why, are people complaining saying he was the founder of isis? >> i'm wondering how you think that's going to play in some battle ground states. >> whatever it is, it is. look, all i did is tell the truth. i'm a truth-teller. all i did is tell the truth. and if at the end of 90 days i fall in short because i'm politically correct, even though i'm supposed to be the smart one and even though i'm supposed to have a lot of good ideas, it's okay. i go back to a very good way of life. it's not what i'm looking to do. i think we're going to have a victory. but we'll see. >> reporter: here's the thing, kate. some do make the argument that because of how the united states decided to take action in the middle east, it created a vacuum that allowed isis to flourish. this is something that radio host hugh hewitt said to trump today. just within the last maybe two hours or so. he said, hey, i know what you meant. that there was a vacuum created, that that is what allowed isis to be created, and trump flatley said, no, obama is the founder of isis. and, again, reiterated his point. you know, we have to say, obviously, president obama is not the founder of isis. so we are curious to see what trump says today, whether he addresses this controversy. and something else, kate, whether he addresses his plan for sfwlooezika. this is something here in florida a huge point of discussion for many people, particularly further south from us in miami, which is kind of the epicenter of the public health crisis. trump hasn't addressed it in a substantial way. he may today when pressed by local reporters and others here in the sunshine state. so a lot going on in the world of politics yet again. >> yeah. and let me ask you one followup. there is a "time" mag report out today that is crediting two top gop officials saying that the rnc chairman, reince priebus said to donald trump that if he doesn't turn his campaign around, quote, the national party may shift its focus from his candidacy to down ballot races. any response from the trump campaign? >> reporter: nothing yet, kate. let's talk about what republicans outside trump world say. they believe if it is a trump loss by let's say nine or ten points, it is going to significantly hurt the vulnerable senators in key statements states like pennsylvania. there is concern that republicans could not just lose the white house but could also lose the senate majority. so the trump campaign, of course, is aware of that. donald trump himself is aware of that. the possibility that he could maybe bounce back in some of this polling isn't totally out of the question, potentially. but trump is reiterating today he is not going to change his strategy, kate. he is not going to pivot. we should stop talking about a pivot. he said, i'm going to continue to stick with what works. and i'm parafrayeding, but what he said to cnbc, i'm going to win or go on a really nice, really long vacation. so you've got to listen to the candidate himself and what he's saying. trump will point to and his team will point to the fact this strategy won him the primaries. he beat out a number of other republican challengers to get to where he is. so they're saying, listen, there is a window, ewe've got a few more weeks. people will start paying attention. so let's wait and see if that happens. >> nbc's hallie jackson, down in florida, waiting for donald trump as we continue to wait for this eventuality in miami. and, of course, we'll bring that to you as it merits attention. one of the big problems trump is having right now, lack of support among african-american voters. every major recent poll shows him at about 2% support among african-americans. since 1948, we looked back, that number for republican candidates has been about five times that on average for most republican candidates. for some perspective, i want to welcome in ashley bell, recently named senior strategist and national director of african-american political engagement for the republican national committee. welcome. nice to see you in person. we have talked remotely a lot. did you get a phone call? how did this happen that you're with rnc? the last time we talked, you were a delegate from georgia. >> that's right. i have a good relationship with our chairman, and my chairman knows how passionately i care about making sure that both parties compete for the african-american vote. that's something i take personally and i want to see happen. so i did get a call from the rnc -- >> from mr. priebus himself. >> wefrom the political department. this was an opportunity for me to help create the environment, making sure republicans doing their best to fight for the black vote. >> 2012, 13% of all voters, democrat/republican, were african-american, so a big chunk of the population. they tend to vote democrat. some of our battleground polling, right now, as you know, shows trump with 0% of the african-american vote in ohio and pennsylvania. that's our nbc news polling. you can dispute the polling. but it's zero. -- >> one of my good democrat friends called me and said you've got nowhere to go but up, actually. and i agree. >> glass half full. >> we have a lot of work to do. >> what do you do to get those votes? >> we have a lot of work to do, but i'm glad we're willing to do it. the fact the chairman has put in resources for myself to come in -- i'm not coming in alone. elroy sailors, shanna reads, political science professor. we have a great team building. the investments there, working with all 12 battle ground states to make sure the directors are reaching out to black voters and engaging them on the issues. if this election is about the issues, i think we have a shot. if it's only about personality and rhetoric, it's going to be tough. >> do you think your candidate is making it more about personality and rhetoric? >> i think the democratic party does a good job of what they always do. every four years, come on and say the republicans are racist so don't think about them. i think we have a chance to look he at the issues. when you look at race in this country, the democrats have as much to blame as republicans do. when you look at the 1990s and everything the clinton's did, during the '90s there's more african-americans put in federal and state prisons than at any time in federal history, that was under bill clinton. there is honesty with we need to debate the issues. >> donald trump's comment on second amendment issue, supreme court appointees. hillary clinton's response yesterday, she responded and then trump talking about it just this morning. talking about president obama being the founder of isis. take a listen. >> words matter, my friends. and if you are running to be president or you are president of the united states, words can have tremendous consequences. yesterday we witnessed the latest in a long line of casual comments from donald trump that cross the line. >> last night, you said the president was the founder of isis. i know what you meant. you meant he created the vacuum -- >> no, i meant he's the founder of isis. i do. eyes the most valuable player. i gave him the most valuable player award. i give her too, by the way. >> do democrats have a point he needs to be more careful with his words or not? >> i used to be a democrat. i remember in 2008 when i was supporting president obama that in march of 2008 when they -- everyone wanted hillary clinton to get out of the primary, she made a comment and said you know what, i'm not going to get out because in june rfk was assassinat assassinated. she apologized to the kennedy family. she said to the kenny's, i apologized, i was thinking about teddy kennedy. >> is that a fair parallel? >> yes. >> that was brought up with me by katrina pearson yesterday. i didn't hear her make the comment. it's gotten a lot of attention. we were talking over each other and i didn't hear her references. i'm glad you brought it up. >> president obama -- i thought she was wrong and i think she should have apologized then. i think many people who remember that comment and when you talk about donald trump and the isis comment, give the president credit. the president came out and said you know what, what was the number one mistake. i should have had a plan in libya after we removed gadhafi. so i think the president has taken credit for his responsibility in isis. >> so you don't think it's too far for trump to be saying he's the quote unquote founder. >> he made aplan, made a mistake. american people have to look and say how many times are we putting people in office who go to war who don't have a plan when they're done. >> my question is, is donald trump the republican candidate who you're now supporting, is he taking it too far with the rhetoric? >> he's going to make his choice on what he says. the facts are the facts. the president left libya, had no plan. we've had other republican presidents that have had the same problem. we can't elect another president who is going to go to war and not have a plan on what we're going to do day one. >> let's talk big picture for a second. his poll numbers are falling. any polls out in the last couple weeks show a decline. "time" magazine shows his face melting. i don't know if you have seen this picture. there it is. what -- the headline there is "meltdown." what does donald trump have to do to make up some lost ground? >> you know, donald trump has a strategy that he's going to stick to. he wants to remind voters every day he's the outsider. he is not the insider. he's not the status quo. and he is going to win or lose on that strategy. and so i don't think that -- i think your earlier comment was right. he's not going to change. there is no pivot. he's donald trump and he's going to -- he's going to offer the american people a different choice. he is not a politician and i think that american people, when the debates happened, we'll see that clearer. it's one thing to see clip versus clip. but that debate stage, kate, is going to really be an interesting time. i think donald trump will come out on top. >> other people already popping the popcorn for that debate in a series of debates. ashley bell, rnc senior strategist, african-american political engagement. thank you for being with us. appreciate it. coming up, donald trump speaking right now in miami. we will continue to monitor his comments there. and next, what's fueling trump's rise? we're going to talk with jd vance, getting a lot of attention. a must-read in political circles. it's his personal story but also a revealing look at white working class voters, and why he thinks they're misunderstood by a lot of politicians. max and i just discovered this dog treat called dentalife. it's really different. see? it's flexible... ...and it has a chewy, porous texture, full of little tiny air pockets that gives dogs' teeth a clean scrub all the way down to the gum line. 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"hill billy elegy" is a memoir, the writer is a yale law credit who calls himself a, quote, scotts irish hill billy at heart and has in the words of today's "new york times" book review, inadvertently provided a civilized reference guide for an uncivilized election. the author, jd vance, joins me right now. good to see you. >> thanks for having me. >> we appreciate you coming in. good timing that it happens to be on the front page of the "new york times" art section this morning. >> sure. >> you say in the beginning of the book, you grew up in a poor ohio steel town. your family moving there for jobs from kentucky. those jobs then disappeared. stability crumbled for your family. what's happening to families like yours? >> well, i think first because they can't find good jobs and they can't find frankly jobs that make them proud of what they do. this economic crisis set in and also a social crisis, feeling hopeless about the future. you have seen family break down numbers sky rocket. opioid addiction numbers also sky rocket. it's kind of crazy that the ohio county where i grew up last year, deaths from heroin overdoses outnumbered deaths from natural causes. so it's just i think a very hopeless place in a lot of ways. and a very frustrated place. >> and how does that link to what's happening in our political world right now? donald trump spoke to an audience filled with miner's yesterday, people who do mining. and he said i'm going to be an unbelievable positive. but this is the last shot, he said to that audience. you write about working-class voters, say they're the most pessimistic group in america, more so than latino immigrants or black americans. is negativity a part of the appeal do you think for trump? >> i think the way he goes after frankly the political elites. because in these places for 20 or 30 years they felt basically ignored by everyone in washington, d.c. and everyone in new york. and so what's happened is that he's the first person who has really said, you know what, other people are at fault for these problems. we're going to go after the people who have been screwing you for so long, and because these people have felt like someone has been after them for a really long time, that's the only way that explains the lies they see, really resonated with donald trump's message. >> the "new york times" this morning say vance preaches a message of tough love and pishl responsibility. he has no patience with ab old aequatence only to take to facebook to blame the obama economy. squint, and you'll note the incendiary nature of mr. vance's argument. it's always treacherous business to blame a group for its own misfortunes. how dangerous is that blame game? >> i think it can be dangerous and you have to recognize this problem is really complex. it's not just that these people are at fault for their own problems and it's not just that the economy has gone south. it's frankly both. i think to have an honest conversation about inequality, about upward mobility and the frustration of the white working class, we have to be up front about the fact these problems are complex and that's why i wrote the book. >> and you keep saying these people. but these are your people. >> absolutely. these are my people. >> you graduated from yale law school. you talk a lot in the book about what you didn't know growing up. that you didn't know -- what you didn't know when you entered the marines and what you didn't know when you headed off to college. >> sure. >> and i think your point is that people need to know that options are there, and you and i were talking off camera about this. options were there outside the community they're living in. >> yeah, absolutely. it's a question of whether when you get to a new place and you get to a place that's required for upward mobility, do you know how to navigate it. you need to make connections, do you know how to use a butter knife which you think is a small deal but when you're in net working dinners, it was a big deal for me i didn't know how to conduct myself in this sort of environment. so i think a big part of the problem here is that folks don't realize what options are out there. and even when they're lucky enough like i was to find themselves in these places, they sometimes don't know how to conduct themselves. >> so what's your best advice to all of us who are sort of looking -- we were talking off camera. i have a lot of friends in this situation. i grew up in upstate new york on an apple orchard and spent time in new mexico and still have a really good friend there really struggling. >> of course. >> what do we do as a nation to help bridge that gap? >> well, i think the first thing we have to do is spend a little bit more time with each other. and it sounds trite. but if you think about the residential segregation that's happening in the country right now, rich and upper middle class aren't spending time with the poor and vice versa. so there is a huge cultural disconnect where the people at the lower rungs of the ladder don't understand what's required to get ahead and also don't see other people who are successful so they don't have hope they can be successful. so i think there are a lot of policy things we can do to help these people, to help my people. but frankly, i think a really good first step would be for people like me and like you to recognize that we have to spend a little bit more time with these communities to try to understand them. >> person i mentioned in new mexico is my little sister through big brothers, big sisters, a mentoring organization. i'm a big believer in that and i'm sure you are too. >> mentorship is a great organization and what saved me. >> jd vance, so interesting to talk with you and kind of a must-read, "hill billy elegy." thank you for spending it time with us. donald trump speaking to the national association of home builders in miami. moments ago, trump doubled down on his claim that president obama is the founder of isis. we'll be right back, or actually we'll listen to him live for a few moments here in miami. >> four more years of obama. the last thing you want are judges put on the united states supreme court that are going to destroy our nation. we lost judge scalia, who was a great justice. a great judge. we lost him. that was shocking, because he was going to be there at least another ten years. and that seat was taken. but all of a sudden before we start -- so this president actually could have as many as five -- it's unlikely five, but probably four -- almost definitely three. it's a lot. but it could be an all-time record. could have five. so that's probably the single most or one of the -- certainly one of the very big -- defense, i always say is the most. we have to be safe. we can't let isis come in. we can't let the syrians pour into our country like they are right now. we have no idea who they are, where they're coming from. we have no idea what their thought process is. we just don't know. and there's no way you can vet them. but they're pouring in. and hillary wants 550% more to come in than we have right now. which is just insane. so we have to be smart. we have to be tough. and we have to be vigilant. and i will say that president obama and clinton have economic policies that have produced -- you saw the latest report. 1.2% growth. right? 1.2%. if that ever happened in china, they would have a revolution. they get to 7% or 8%, and they start devaluing their krens and they start taking more business out of the united states. and we allow it to happen, because we have people at the top that are not smart, number one. and are probably controlled by people that want it to happen. but they're not smart people. so china starts devaluing. and i have nothing against china. i like china. i have leases with china, biggest bank in the world is a tenant of mine, one of my buildings in new york. sell condos to the chinese, the bank of america building in san francisco, i own that with a great partner. and i got that through china, indirectly and directly. so i've had great relation -- i've made a fortune with china. but they don't respect us. they don't respect our country, they don't respect our country. they don't respect our president, they don't like our president. putin doesn't like our president. wouldn't it be nice if we could get along with russia? wouldn't that be a decent thing? wouldn't that be nice? but there is no respect. but the 1.2 growth -- percent, was startling number for a lot of people. the national debt has nearly doubled under obama, and by the time he gets out, it will be more than doubled. the u.s. trade deficit, all of this work we do for trade, trade, trade, we make all bad trade deals. it's nearly $800 billion last year. $800 billion, billion, billion. with a b. 800 billion. we have great negotiators if i use home builders to negotiate, that wouldn't be happening. believe me. [ cheers and applause ] i could take 90% of the people in this room, maybe higher, but i could take 9 -- because i know the people in this room. i could take 90% of the people in this room, put them in charge of some of these trade deals that we make with these different countries and our country would be flush. we would be rolling in dough. but we had a trade deficit of $800 billion. we had a trade deficit with china -- this is the big one, of $505 billion. think of it, trade deficit. does anybody think they couldn't do a better deal? raise your hand if you think you couldn't do a better keel. he raised his hand, he had the guts. get out of here, we don't want you. [ laughter ] [ applause ] >> he's not a true home builder. that was very cute, thank you. i'm sure you don't believe that, but that's okay. if you do, your business must be suffering, right? [ laughter ] nearly 24 million americans in their prime earning years are out of the labor force. in the last seven years, another 14 million people have left the work force. and hillary clinton has got to make a speech tonight. she's going to raise taxes $1.3 trillion. i'm going to cut taxes, big. we're having a massive cut in taxes. we're having a massive cut in regulations. you know -- [ cheers and applause ] and that includes banking regulations for you people. because it's impossible for you people to go get mortgages. so hard for people to get mortgages today. unless you have a lot of money in the bank, and unless you don't need money, you can't borrow. right? you can't borrow. i have friends that call me, could you give me a reference to a bank. i said, why would you need a reference? you've got a good business. they said no, they want us to have more money than we want to borrow. i said, well, if you had that, you wouldn't have to borrow, right? so why -- it's impossible. with dodd/frank, the different things you have. i know people that can't get mortgages to buy houses and that's why your housing numbers are way down from what they were. in terms of new capacity. one in five american households do not have a single member in the american labor force. think of that. home ownership -- is this a biggy for you. home ownership is at its lowest rate in 51 years. think of that. there was always like the american dream, right? owning a home was the american dream. the lowest rate in 51 years. and i have a chart. where is that chart. look at this. see, i'm into the world of charts lately. so descriptive. so here's a chart. most of you can see. you don't need very good eyesight to see what's going on. so here's obama. and here's the end. [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] he's not finished yet. isn't that a terrible -- seriously. isn't that a terrible picture? look at that. homeownership. so you take a look at what's happened. that's the american dream right there, folks. and then they wonder why 25,000 people come to my rallies. and why 10,000 people and 10,000 and 5,000, where we have a room that holds 200. and why -- you know, i mean, even your meeting. it was supposed to be one-third this size. and look at it. but look at this. and to me, that says so much, because it's homeownership. that's the american dream. and it's the lowest it's been in 51 years. wow. so i think that's a pretty sad -- i hope you know i had that chart not necessarily made for you. but i figured it would be a good one to pull out, okay? [ laughter ] [ applause ] nearly 12 million people, more americans, are dependent on food stamps and 2 million more latino americans live in poverty. latino-americans. incredible people living in poverty. 2 million. 58% of african-american youth are not employed. 58%. american households are earning 4,000 -- see, this is to me so incredible. american households are earning $4,000 less today than they were 16 years ago. the real number is 18 years ago. but this particular group says 16, statistically. 16 years ago. many workers are earning less money than they were earning in real dollars in 1970. and then you wonder why they're angry. you wonder why they really want a voice. and the voice is us. we have a movement going on, it's been an amazing thing. and the polls are getting very close. very, very close. it's very interesting what's happening. we will create millions of new good-paying jobs with an across the board income tax reduction. i mean, this is one of the things that we have to do. we have to do. we're going to create millions of jobs. now, everybody admits, you know, the 5% number is just -- a number to make politicians look good, to make the presidents look good. not only obama, it was there before him. although it's gotten actually worse, because more people -- the way they -- the way they analyze these numbers more and more people -- gets lower and lower and people can't find work. if you give up looking for a job, after months, you go home, i can't find one, dad. i can't find one, mom. i can't find one to your wife or to your husband. can't find a job. you go home and you give up. after a while, you give up. and everybody admits that there are no good jobs. the good jobs we don't have any more. even the other side. we have jobs, we don't have good jobs. but you give up. you give up looking, and yet you are considered statistically employed. because the numbers are phony. 5%. every time i watch that, unemployment is down to 5%. it's not down to 5%. it's probably 20 or 21%. some people think it's higher. but people want jobs. and they quit. they give up looking. everyone's taxes we want to go down. under my plan. three brackets -- three brackets instead of seven. we're doing a major, major, major simplification. the one company that will not be happy is h & r block. i know people that go and spend a fortune on tax returns, because they can't -- it's too complicated, they can't figure it out. many americans are going to pay nothing. now, they're going to pay zero, because they're not making enough to live. but they don't want to send -- they're not going to send a tax return in. it costs a fortune, bureaucratically. billions of dollars. and they don't have money and they're not going to pay so we're going to make that an easier process. hillary clinton has supported tax increases on the middle class for her entire career. she voted for higher taxes 235 times in the senate. i thought it was more than that. thinktive. she has voted for tax increases. and by the way, proposing a big one today. in her speech. her teleprompter speech. she's got -- [ laughter ] [ applause ] her speeches are so short, though. they don't last long. they're like, ten minutes, let's get out of here. go back home and go to sleep. [ laughter ] three days later, she gets up and she does another one and goes back home and goes to sleep. [ laughter ] oh, boy, is isis hoping for her. is china hoping. you imagine china? they come in, you ever negotiate with the chinese, they're tough. they're tough. you have to hit them back with a lot of energy. so now she's planning another job-killing $1.3 trillion tax increase. her plan -- $1.3 trillion. think, her plan will tax many small businesses. you folks, by almost 50%. enjoy your tax increase, folks. that's what it is. i've cut mine down to 15%. 15%. for businesses. [ cheers and applause ] so no small business in our plan will be taxed more than 15%. and we'll allow businesses to expense new business investments. which is nice, right? we'll make average child care expense tax deductible for working families. a very big thing. and very fair thing. we're going to -- [ applause ] very fair thing. that was ivanka trump. she thought that was good. [ laughter ] she really did. she felt very strong. she's had three children now. and she thought it was very unfair to working mothers and families, what was happening. so i -- and i agreed with her 100%. we will eliminate the interest deduction, and other special interest loopholes. and we're going to repeal the death tax. the estate tax, the death tax. [ cheers and applause ] you know, i know so many families that have been destroyed by the death tax. where they have a business and the business is going along, and business has a certain value, and they can't make a deal with the government. and they end up losing their business. sometimes they can't even sell it. but they end up losing their business. or they have to sell their business. and the people that come in don't run the business the same way and the business goes out of business. farmers are hit hard. housing companies are hit hard. i guess. housing companies are hit very hard, especially when you want to keep it going and you want your children to take over and keep running your business. and it's a very, very unfair situation, and the tax is massive and it's -- it doesn't amount to a lot of money for the country. it's not a huge amount of money, believe it or not. but it is just a destroyer of businesses. the farmers are -- they don't know what to do about it. they don't know what to do. they go out of business. overregulation. which is a big problem. is costing our economy $2 trillion a year. think of that. and you are a big beneficiary of overregulation. because there's nobody other than i would say the energy industry that's overregulated more than the home building industry. and -- nobody. [ applause ] we just want 25%. 25%, the cost of a house. i think we should get that down to about 2%. honestly. no, no, honestly. [ cheers and applause ] it's ridiculous. the u.s. economy today is 25% smaller than it would have been without the surge of regulations since 1980. i think that's true. so many businesses are knocked out. we will issue an executive order to impose a temporary regulation moratorium on new agency regulations. 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>> reporter: well, she will lay out sort of a response to what donald trump had done earlier here in the detroit area. she has talked about the economy at earlier times this year, but some of the highlights, according to campaign officials, is she will try to argue that donald trump's plans would really benefit those at the highest income levels, more than working families, middle class families. she'll make the case that her plans would be more focus toward them. she will also organize for tuition free families and debt-free with those with more ability to pay. talking about making those on wall street who have the preferential tax treatment pay their fair share. on the hacking issue, kate, what we can tell you is the clinton campaign says they have not been notified by the fbi of any breach of their systems. so that's new today. and also in touch with democratic lawmakers who work on the intelligence side where they have oversight on capitol hill. they have been briefed on the most recent examples that we know of, of the house democratic campaign committee, known as the dccc or the dnc. they can't speak to it publicly, but some of the lawmakers say they hope if there is a specific determination made, and there's an allegation that it's russian-related hackers or russian-based hackers, that be made public because that would have in the words of one lawmaker, very serious consequences if it's an attempt to interfere with an american electoral system by going after these political entities. so that's the latest there. but no new response yet today from the democratic national committee. kate? >> all right, kelly o'donnell out with hillary clinton today. thanks so much. here's an interesting note. today is known as national presidential joke day. if you're wondering why that's a thing, it's because 32 years ago today, on this day, in 1984, president ronald reagan made an off the cuff joke that ended up having relatively significant consequences. take a look at the "nbc nightly news" report from a few months later in 1984, when we finally got the full story of what happened showing how words, even jokes, really can matter. >> it was the joke heard around the world, the one by president reagan about bombing the soviet union and it resulted in a soviet red alert and became a campaign issue in this country. now marvin kalb has learned the soviets responded in their own fashion. >> the president was joking his way through an audio check on august 11th. >> i signed legislation that will outlaw russia forever. we begin bombing in five minutes. >>. >> by august 14th, the story became world news, a major item on moscow television where the joke was not treated as a laughing matter. august 15th, a coded message left soviet military headquarters. it said in part, we now embark on military action against the u.s. forces. one senator said the alert must have been a joke. a congressman said it was russia's way of answering the president. most officials said no comment. the one did speculate that the russian might have been drunk. marvin kalb, nbc news, the state department. >> love the '80s graphics. joining me now, former new mexico governor, bill richardson. we figured you would appreciate the throwback there. in all seriousness, we have been talking a lot lately about words. you were governor, you were congressman, you were ambassador to the u.n., secretary of energy under bill clinton. talk about the importance of presidents being careful with what they say. >> well, i remember that time when ronald reagan made that joke, and it did provoke that reaction from the russians. now imagine if donald trump is president and he starts coming out like with his daily idiotic statements that not only are dangerous, but they're wrong. so words matter. the world looks at our election. we are the leader of the free world. despite any faults that we may have. we're the most powerful military in the world. we have the largest nuclear arsenal. we're the cradle of democracy. and so, you know, words matter. and this is why this man is so irresponsible. >> a few minutes ago, we were taking his speech in miami to the home builders association. he once again said he called clinton and obama the founders of isis. he is suggesting they had a lot to do with the creation of isis. your response? >> well, that's false. you know, i know a little bit about foreign policy. it's totally false. it's an accusation that has no foundation. the founder of isis? here you have a president who has bombed isis with a huge coalition. isis, unfortunately, is still around. there have been some military successes there. it's still a major threat to the united states. but this president has been somebody that has gone after isis, gone after assad and syria. tried to bring a coalition that includes the russians, who don't want to cooperate. so it's totally off base. he doesn't know -- donald trump does not know foreign policy. and this is why national security experts from the republican party, 50 of them, very distinguished, homeland security officials are saying he's unfit temperamentally to be president. >> let me ask you about hillary clinton's words, as well. because they matter too. the e-mail situation, as you know, doesn't seem to be going away. the latest trickle, round of enough e-mails we learned about points to potentially inappropriate relationships or at least coordination between the state department and some officials there under hillary clinton. and officials at the clinton foundation, her husbands private organization. did they make a mistake? >> well, look. you have to look at these e-mails, case by case. there is going to be probably a lot more. in this case, with that lebanese businessman, no contact was ever made with the assistant secretary at the state department. secondly, no meeting ever took place. it seems that the lebanese wanted to talk about the elections in lebanon, and that was it. you know, this is a routine communication among people that know each other. now, i know the optics are not good, kate. >> well, that's -- >> it's better that these not take place. but no favoritism there was shown. what was. >> that is part of the question, though, isn't it? the optics of this. these e-mail stories fodder for republicans. you hear donald trump talk about it every day, now. drip, drip, drip. is it going to get worse before election day? >> well, i don't know if it will get worse. but they're going to keep hammering at this, which this clinton foundation e-mails are basically harmless. the optics, you're right, are not good. but i think what hillary is doing today, talking about the economy, expanding jobs, manufacturing, you know, and talking about donald trump -- his economic plan is the one -- is for the 1%. it's tax cuts for the wealthy. corporate tax cuts. he wants to get into a trade war with china. that's going to be interesting. i mean, so the contrast is very obvious. and this is why he is sinking in the polls. >> can i go back to the kelly o'donnell was just reporting about the dnc and the hacking that happened. and given your years of experience and your experience with the russians, do you believe that the russians have taken -- have mettled in u.s. politics? do you believe the russians were behind those hacks? >> well, i think evidence is pointing that they were. it is obvious that the russian and the united states, our relationship is not good. it is obvious that putin and obama don't have a good relationship. and, yeah, i think russians and chinese, they're the biggest hackers in the world. and it's very possible that in this area of cyber security of hacking, this is happening. are they trying to influence an election? it seems that putin does like trump. he favors him. it could be -- i don't have all of that intelligence that i used to have, kate. but it's very serious if the russians are interfering in our electoral process. >> bill richardson, former governor of new mexico new mexico, that's how we know each other. good to see you again. >> thank you. all right. we've just gotten a response from the clinton campaign about the isis comments that were just made by donald trump. you heard part of them here on the air from senior adviser, jake sullivan to hillary clinton. quote, this is another example of donald trump trash-talking the united states. it goes without saying that this is a false claim from a presidential candidate with an aversion to the truth and an unprecedented lack of knowledge. what's remarkable about trump's comments, he continues, is that once again, he's echoing the talking points of putin and our adversaries to attack american leaders and american interests while failing to offer any serious plans to confront terrorism or make this country more secure. again, that's a new statement just in from the hillary clinton campaign. stay with us. we are going to go to rio de janeiro next for the latest on the olympic games. my name is barbara and i make dog chow natural. now that i work there, i value the food even more. i feed it to yoshi because there are no artificial colors, preservatives and it's made with real chicken. i'm so proud to make dog chow natural in davenport, iowa. you only earn double miles when you buy stuff from that airline. wait...is this where you typically shop? 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>> reporter: yes, and in fact, some of the divers says it's like diving into a swamp and now it's gone over into the water polo pool, people saying their eyes were burning. olympic officials say this is not a problem, it's a chemical imbalance. they're fixing it. this is also the pool -- that water polo pool, by the way, the synchronized swimmers are in. we're going to have to wait and see later today if it's looking any better, kate. >> wow. we're staying up late to watch the swimmers, again, in my house. >> oh, yes! >> chris jansing, thank you, thank you, as always. i'm kate snow. do not go anywhere yet. coming up, the olympic games from rio de janeiro, right here on msnbc. and later today, our regularly scheduled programming comes back, 5:00 p.m. eastern, tune into msnbc, "meet the press daily" with chuck todd. have a great day! will your business be ready when growth presents itself? our new cocktail bitters were doing well, but after one tradeshow, we took off. all i could think about was our deadlines racing towards us. a loan would take too long. we needed money, now. my amex card helped me buy the ingredients to fill the orders. opportunities don't wait around, so you have to be ready for them. find out how american express cards and services can help prepare you for growth at open.com. find out how american express cards and services if legalzoom has your back.s, over the last 10 years we've helped one million business owners get started. visit legalzoom today for the legal help you need to start and run your business. legalzoom. legal help is here. this dog treat called max and dentalife.covered it's really different. see? 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