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Gaulle. macron has been talking about a european defense agreement, a european defense agency in essence. so france always plays a little bit of a disruptive role. most of the time it is behind the scenes in the settled with a cool, polite, political talk in public. today we saw it right out there in front. both men went at each other politely but nonetheless in a way were not used to seeing at international meetings. >> sandra: macrons words, we do pay what we have to pay. president trump went ...